Octopath Traveler - Which Secondary Job Should You Pick? PART THREE: ADVANCED
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- Octopath Traveler has eight very unique characters, with eight initial secondary job classes to pick for each, and four secret secondary jobs! Let's go through each character and see which advanced secondary job class best suits your play style enough to be the secondary job class you should pick! In Part One, we go over the four Nobles. In Part Two, we cover the Rogue Heroes, and in Part Three, we're discussing Advance Secret Jobs - Runelord, Sorcerer, Starseer, and Warmaster.
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Octopath Traveler Which Secondary Job Should You Pick? PART THREE: ADVANCED - Wishful Thinking - Hry
Sorcerer is actually easy to cheese if you have the skills to 4x reflective veil your entire party, which can be done in a single turn.
Same with starseer
That’s what I did, I think it was the dancer divine skill I used on ophilia and used reflective veils, then used energizing pomegranates whenever I needed to do it again.
You can beat Dreisang without even getting hit with this strat. Same with Steorra. In fact, if done right, Balogar is the only of the 4 bosses to almost gaurantee to hit you at least once.
Or breaking him before he does anything and keep breaking him, as long as you survive his spells he is free.
I just used armor corrosive, leghold trap and hired help. He basically only does like max 1800 damage if you break him every time. He is free without cheese.
Runelord is by far the simplest Advanced Class to decide what to do with, considering literally only Tressa and Olberic can benefit from it as they are the only party members with self targeting abilities.
My thoughts on characters and how they pair with specific classes. (Advanced only, this is a wall of text. Sorry xD)
Primrose - Starseer or Sorcerer
Starseer- adds to her as a support while ALSO adding to her as a Mage. it's a fun combo and adds way more to her utility
Sorcerer- turns Prim into arguably the better Mage. Prim's Elem Attack can rival Cyrus's own. And this let's her cover every element.
Therion -Warmaster. - I love using Therion, i just feel he falls short with any other advanced class. But I also think this turns him into one of the best physical attackers. (Personal opinions, yay!)
It takes advantage of his high speed and critical. And brings him up to par with other phys attackers.
Cyrus - Starseer or Sorcerer
Starseer - fixes Scholar's problem, elemental access. Giving him strong access to Wind, Light and Dark. While also adding utility to him. Something he completely lacks. This also doesn't render his core job obsolete.
Sorcerer - This is obviously a good class for the games primary mage. But it renders his core job useless. THat's not ENTIRELY a bad thing, as this is extremely powerful all on it's own however.
H'aanit - Warmaster or Runelord
Warmaster - This was stated in the video, but this is one of those jobs basically made for her.
Runelord - While it's true she cannot take advantage of Transfer Rune in her personal kit, she also doesn't really need to. Runelord works great all on it's own. Adding to the fact a lot of good bows have Elem Attack attached, H'aanit can make good use of the rune's themselves to add to her attacks.
Alfyn - Runelord
As stated above, Runelord works great all on it's own, but Alfyn can use this pretty much AS a stand alone, relying on Saving Grace to overheal your party, giving you plenty of free time to boost out Rune's onto your party. Making him amazing in pure physical teams.
Olberic - Warmaster or Runelord - Personally i like him better with generic classes.
Both of these are basically a rehash of H'aanit. though i feel he's not as good with Runelord since Magic Swords and Axes tend not to be as good as Hybrid and Magic bows. Though there are some damn good Magic Spears.
Ophilia - Starseer, Sorcerer, Runelord
Starseer - This one is obvious, it's a support caster for a support caster.
Sorcerer - This one is similar to Prim, it turns her into a beastly elemental mage, more so if Cyrus has Starseer.. as they work together and cover eachother perfectly.
Runelord - This continues to fall into the trend of Alfyn's. She can rely on saving Grace to overheal, giving her free time to constantly pump out elemental runes into your party. Though she's probably better at this role since her heals are AoE, which means she can turn one overheal the entire party. - This is arguably one of my favorites.
Tressa - Literally all of them - Despite how good she is with ALL of these, i personally dislike using her.
Runelord - This is obvious with AoE side-stepping.
Starseer - Turns her into a solid support and Mage.
Sorcerer - Turns her into a strong Mage.
Warmaster - Turns her into a strong Physical.
tressa is a broken Runelord to be sure, and all of these make her good at any role. While not as good at them as others. Tressa is the true Jack of All Trades, and if your not like me and just don''t like using her. She can literally find a place in ANY party.
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Therion is actually really strong with Sorcerer one of the best in fact, as he can stack a Sword and Dagger that both boost Fire Spell so he can get some really huge damage with Sorcerer's Fire Spell.
I'm really surprised no one mentioned that Transfer Rune also works with Tressa's Rest, this way you can heal HP and SP at the same time without items to all the party, you just need to boost her BP with Starseer
Or with Alfyn. 2 to 4 BP to the entire party for basically nothing. Concoct is seriously SO damned broken lol.
For anyone having trouble with any of these job bosses: equip saving grace, resist ailments, patience and second wind on every character and run ophilia apothecary with +50 sp accessories and you cannot die. I beat all the shrines with this setup from lv 38 to 43. Rest of team: haanit warrior, cyrus dancer, and therion merchant
They will be long fights though
Considering that this game is my literal first entry into the jrpg gaming world. These job class videos have been is a huge help and have really helped me figure out strategies much better and easier than when I first started playing
Awesome! Glad you could get some help out of the series!
Cyrus as star seer gives him total coverage. In situations where a boss has elemental weaknesses blocked, having something else to do is also important.
the throw weapon skill for the warmaster is pretty strong especially if you have the passive that allows you to pass the damage cap because some of the weapons do insane damage. you can buy a lot of weapons that have status ailments as well
Robert McCurdy let's not forget if you buff olberic properly with the do more damage when at critical health as well as other augments he can do well over 50k damage, combine that with the dancer divine skill and he hits all enemies
Personally therion is very useful once you get later into the game and level properly, hp and sp theif and his divine skill+speed makes him alot more versatile to use
This may be a huge coincidence, but I was CRACKING UP when Playing Olberic’s last chapter and a character said “Without further ado... Let’s get to it!”
transfer rune into sidestep truly is op
Edplosion broken, honestly. But only if you get a chance to. For some reason in my game, every time the Starseer boss LOVES to confuse Tressa, so that battle was a no-go, had to get a different tactic.
Isn't there an accessory to equip that makes immune to confusion? not sure on that since I didn't need it. But I know there is one to nullify stuns which I needed badly for H'aanits story final boss
Just have Alfyn use Rehabilitate on everyone (especially Tressa if she's your Runelord). Rest gets rid of status ailments so Transfer Rune + Rest is your best friend.
Honestly, the starseer (and sorcerer) are easy to beat with dancer ultimate combined with clerics veil. Just reflect their damage back to them.
How is this team ?
Olberic Apothecary
Cyrus Starseer
Tressa Runelord
Ophilia Sorcerer
Alfyn (my main), Therion and Tressa were pretty much the 3 constant members throughout all my playthrough. I had 4 million leafs by lvl 60
I just use transfer rune on my cyrus-sorcerer who also has the warrior skill to increase max damage and then use elemental break. It both lowers the enemies elemental resistance and then deals the damage of the elemental rune. Usually i deal 18k damage on an enemy with his guard up and up to 120k when fully buffed, way more than with the other sorcerer abilities. The rune-damage also seems to benefit from the sorcerer's elemental aid without increasing the abilities cost. Combined with sp-saver and second wind and cyrus regenerates more sp than he spends on elemental break.
Sorcerer is so damn easy, I didn't even use that reflective veil strategy. Literally all you have to do is keep up a leghold trap and break him. He can hardly do anything to you. I probably could have beat him at level 30ish if my party had high enough HP to tank the single attack he can ever get off.
I use a mercant haanit, it's like a good supportive character to break down bosses as she can provide bp's to her allies and debuff speed the boss. Also really useful by her tanking (thanks her second job) and her offensive presence (first job)
I know it's not the most optimal class combo but I really like it
Hold on. Attacking an enemy's weakness while broken *doesnt* do more damage?
Nope you just deal 2x damage, try it with a soulstone, a large one will deal 5400 to a broken enemy no matter what elemental weaknesses they do or don't have.
Sorcerer Therion and his 30% fire dagger/sword combo can really exploit those fire spells when shields are broken.
Dang..
I use Therion with apothecary 2nd job, so since he is fast he goes first, with 1 HP and the correct passive he will do around 30k dmg aoe with last stance and using 1 BP.
Excellent re-upload vid. Awesome stuff as always my man.
Later in the game it becomes a REAL pain that you can only equip 4 support skills, because there are just SO SO many great ones & you'll be constantly struggling to decide which ones to equip!
I'll eventually come back and watch past the intro part once i'm far enough into the game to have unlocked them and experimented with them myself. I'm just here to leave a like =)
Let's just be honest, alfyn is best blocker, best heala, best hitter, and best boi. Alfyn be best character
THIS.
SO MUCH THIS.
ALFYN IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST.
I picked Alfyn as my main to later find out I made a GREAT choice... such a beast all round
seems like im one of very few that dislike alfyn =( so glad he was my last pick xD really not that fun to me
@@firby7341 same he's the weakest in my team.
@@firby7341 Alfyn is really strong his HP / Physical defense is closer to Olberic than H'annit while also having better elemental defense than the both of them.
He is just as strong as Therion so his Axe attacks are pretty impressive.
His concocts can't be replaced by anything else compare donate BP to one person while Purifying Dust+Pomegranate gives 2BP to everyone (or 4BP to a single person) since you start with 1 BP you can unleash divine skills in the very first turn.
Soothing Dust +Curious bloom - 800 HP, Cure all statuses + Status Immunity for 1 Turn for the whole party.
Not to mention that he is the first person who can 3x hit for all elemental weakness before the Sorcerer job class. These mixes also carry the chance to do things like Confuse Target or lower Phys/Element. Defense.
Dohter's charity + Revitalizing jams gives full HP/SP/BP to the entire party, you get back 5BP for the 3BP you spent to use the skill in the first place.
I’m using
Tressa rune-lord
Haanitt war-master
Ophelia starseer
Cyrus sorcerer
Thanks man this video is awesome keep it up!
Nightmare seems like the throw power in final fantasy. Namely instead of selling weapons you can find the most cost effective one to throw and do major damage.
This works for me especially since by the time I did all these my money only went to hired help which since tressa is a runelord I didn’t use once I got that class either so I just have a surplus of money now and because of that no longer sell the weapons Theron steals or I find exploring that isn’t any good.
So why not make use of them if I soft have a max boost
there's SO much more to this game than I'm currently playing.
I think Cyrus Sorceror is redundant tbh...Primrose can use the Soul Knife to get more elemental attack so she is actually the top elemental damage in the game. Having Cyrus as a Starseer and Primrose as a Sorccer would be your best bet for bosses because Primrose can use her Dancer Divine on Cyrus to make his buffs AOE while Cyrus can use his Schoolar Divine to make Primroses spells hit a lot harder.
My two favorite Runelords are Tressa and Olbric. Tressa is more utility based, giving her sidestep and rest to everyone in the party and she has pretty equal elemtal and physical attack. Olbric is your agressive choice since he can buff physical attack and defense to everyone and his Level Slash is a nice AOE physical and now elemental attack.
There's a lot of options in this game really...
You need redundancy on the last boss.
Ophilia reminds me of yuna at the end of FF10 when I learned blk Mage skills from lulu
nightmare chimera is great for getting rid of your weapon so you can save a second and auto-attack with the next weapon in line....if you're tired of hitting the arrow button to swap weapons.
Starseer's Moon Reflection ability is a counter, so it doesn't work like the Cleric's reflective veil. You take damage and then hit the enemy back if you don't die. (And it must be a physical attack)
Yeah, this was the mistake I made when I went against Balogar. I thought it would work like reflective veil, and had to rethink my strategy entirely then and there. Luckily I had Alfyn with me, so no problems breaking, then I just had to eat the damage when Balogar could attack again.
Dude tbh i just spam Therion with His divine skill mid game cuz giving him surpassing power gets me 15000 - 20000 DMG.
Same
using Haanit as sorceress and she rocks! She can make use of a high power rune buff while having access to powerful magic. But the real winner is that sexy ponytail that comes with the job sprite
Honestly, Tressa & Olberic are the only characters that make any sense at all to use Runelord on as they're the only ones with self targeting skills.
I'd say Tressa is the best though since you can get buffs to all party members thru other means with Primrose/Dancer & that Divine ability that let's you target all party members w buffs, can't remember which class that's from tho.
Fortitude in combination with Last Stand at 1HP, while physical buffed & the enemy defense debuffed, is just insane! Plus the buff that makes the move go twice.
Therion and Prim are the best Travelers to make a Sorcerer. Both have very high speed, meaning increasing the chances to break enemies defenses as soon as possible, and both of them can equip Heathcote's Dagger and Primeval Bow of Storms, as well as one of the elemental staves. That means 3 elements with passive damage increase. Therion is even able to equip Herald's Sword on top of that, to deal stupid amounts of Fire Damage.
Cyrus as a Starseer is actually super good, giving him access to three elements he doesn't have with Shooting Star, as well as allowing him to equip Rune Glaive or Tradewinds Spear, both great weapons for spell casters. Cyrus is a bad Sorcerer, since he misses out on a bunch of great elemental weapons and the Sorcerer class makes his base class completely useless. He also has super low speed, meaning you will struggle to actually use the three hit spells to properly break enemies before they can hit you.
Ophilia is also a great choice for the Starrseer, since she can work as a dedicated support with some damage potential with the right weapons.
Tressa is broken with any of the advanced classes, but giving her Runelord is a no brainer. Transfer Side-step makes the Warlord boss fight a joke, for example. Transfer Rest is also super good for exp grinding if you are lacking SP items (you shouldn't be, but you never know).
Warmaster is awesome on Olberic for Challenge Fights, and either him or H'annit will have great use for this class for the final boss.
I actually leave Alfyn as either a Dancer or a Merchant most of the time. It's not like he needs any subclass anyways!
5:52 I might just be hearing things, but it sounds like he got closer to his mic. Just something I noticed, nothing bad.
And Nightmare Chimera is useful if you wanna hit true damage cap.
Extra Exp CAN be stacked with the accessory that grants Exp+ 50%, so yeah it can in fact stack with that to give double Exp to the entire party! Same thing with Extra JP.
I equipped my cyrus with runelord for a while while picking off the other characters' stories, equipped surpassing power and everyone just exploded.
I mix tressa with runelord because her sidestep now target everyone,making her OP.
Celestial Intervention is the best Starseer skill imo. It’s really helpful when you get to the 2nd phase of the true final boss.
Especially after Sealticge's Seduction. "Locking down" the entire battle field is OP
Boost Start/BP Eater is amazing while grinding in order to help you simply wipe full mobs in a single turn easily by just triple Boosting all of your moves from the outset!
& everyone should just have BP Eater on at all times anyway as it's just super strong, specially in boss fights! Considering all your major damage is going to be done while Boosting.
Nightmare Chimera is for the last boss run since it's a no going back situation.
i know im kinda late but could you answear this; by destroy, does it mean its no longer in your inventory or it cant be used for the rest of the battle?
How come Ophelia's spirite looks like that what job is she in, in the beginning?
i think that you should split the amount of advanced jobs equally to your main team and your secondary team
i have
therion as a cleric or warrior or mechant
haanit as warmaster
cyrus as sorcerer
ophilia as apothecary
for my main team
alphyn as cleric
primrose as starseer
tressa as runelord
olberic as hunter
for my secondary team
I like playing into the class stat buff personally which to me means giving Therion all the Evasion I can muster. Cyrus the most Elem atk and SP boost. then theres the other 2.
Normally its Tressa and Ophillia both of which equipment wise is watered down versions of the other 2, Tressa being secondary Evasion and Ophilia secondary elem atk.
I do not care for deviating from those 4 they just feel right to me. but Prim is an evade character the other 3 are what ever I feel like at the time. and Prim gets Ophilias hand me downs when being placed in a mage role of some kind.
Alfyn as starseer? Did you cover that or did I miss it. Was thinking of trying that combo out once I unlock starseer.
Hey, you missed Alfyn when talking about Starseer and Sorcerer classes.
ToJaTheo ah, crap. Thanks for pointing that out! How could I be so careless? Tl;Dr -Starseer, most definitely for similar reasons to Ophilia, sorcerer... maybe with the right party setup.
I was going to ask about this as well. I'm thinking a starseer Alfyn, Warmaster Olberic, Sorcerer Cyrus and Runemaster Tressa
AbsolutCrono hey that's my exact party too guess we have good taste lol
Haven't finished the game yet (although close) but if the true final boss is a point of no return back to the last save point upon reload kind of deal then that Nightmare Chimera skill could be useful. Otherwise no clue sounds pointless if not for that.
Which of these four bosses would you say is easiest to beat with solo Therion?
Lol
I actually like Cyrus as Starseer because giving him Sorcerer basically obsoletes all of his Scholar abilities. Instead, as Starseer someone else can be the Sorcerer and Cyrus still has access to his missing elements thanks to Shooting Stars and you can now hit with massive elemental damage twice a turn instead of just once.
I guess you could use sealtige seduction to let nightmare chimara be a super powerful sword AOE skill
That's a good idea. Once I get Warmaster for H'aanit I might try that.
A few days ago I finished 4 story lines for my first party choice who are; Cyrus the cleric, Alfyn the warrior, therion the merchant, and H’aanit the dancer or Apothecary. Now currently grinding the rest as one party to finish their chapter 3s then 4s. Then I’ll go to these advance jobs. I really like my first party, but not sure if they would work fine with advance jobs. What do you guys think of the following?
Haanit warmaster
Cyrus sorcerer
Therion starseer
Alfyn Runelord
mikiithe13th that’s exactly what I’m gonna do when I get the job classes
Sorcerer was the easiest for me, his low physical defense made Tressas hired help skill far stronger
My personal picks for advanced classes
Starseer - Primrose, Ophilia
Runelord - Therion, Tressa
Sorcerror- Cyrus
Warmaster- Alfyn, Olberic, Hannit
sorc really only should be used on characters who can double boost elements via weapons. ie therion (probably the best one, but has a lack of sp) tressa (tied with therion but best left as runelord) olberic (is fine, if you willing to shore up his lackluster elem attack with nuts, although this means taking away tressa's double boost) alfyn (once again is fine, although it isnt reccomended as he should almost always be spamming concoct, so putting him on something supportive like thief or hunter typically makes more sense) h'aanit (same deal as olberic, though you wont be taking away someone elses double boost)
Hey sorcerer cyrus user speaking here, while it may seem that using sorcerer on him is a waste, due to his high mag atk Stat he can absolutely demolish any and all enemies with elemental weaknesses, also if you have a rune on him and use elemental break then the damage you will see will skyrocket
Olberic reminds me of the Muppet character Sam Eagle, so I gave him Runemaster to look more like him.
Cyrus - sorcerer
Ophelia - starseer
Tressa - runelord
Olberic - warmaster
If you can’t beat the adv job classes good luck with Galdera
Primrose as Starseer with BP Boost and Encore.
Starting w two BP, cast BP boon on her first turn. Second turn full boost her dancer Divine Skill on herself. Third turn, cast BP boon on everyone. Fourth turn, another round of BP for everyone. 5th turn, full BP boost the Starsong on full party.
Rinse and repeat, swapping out Starsong w other buffs when needed.
I actually ended up using a lot of your recommendations before ever watching this video. Except I obtained the warmaster class last.
Tressa - Runelord
H’aanit - Warmaster
Ophelia - Sorcerer
Alfyn - Starseer
I might have been a little biased since my main/starting team was Therion, then H’aanit, then Ophelia, then finally Alfyn. I had Therion as a hunter before changing him to a warrior. Stealing and donating SP was a huge help when the others started running out, plus the ability to donate above their SP cap.
Regarding nightmare Chimera, I'm just speculating because I don't have that job yet, but if it does ridiculous damage couldn't you just buy a shit ton of cheap swords and use those?
I tried to get the new jobs on lvl 47 and got my ass kicked hard in ever boss... Almost gave up... But now I gonna grind a little more, complete few Chapters, finish some quests, get some equips and change my set up.
I went for two buffers (Therion-Dancer and Ophilia--Whatever lol) and two heavy hitters (Oberic-Hunter and Cyrus-Merchant). No bother with the other characters, just using all the seeds on these four guys.
5:36 What if I tell you you can deal 99999 damage with this skill with just 1BP ?
in octopath order, here is my advanced job pick for everyone (at the end I'll say who I'd actually put them on)
Ophilia: starseer, sorcerer. starseer increases her magical abilities slightly and makes her a better support. sorcerer makes her a good mage+secondary healer.
Cyrus: sorcerer. it the only one that works for him, but is kinda overlapping like you said.
Tressa: runelord, for the same reason you said. sorcerer for 60% wind boost with a possible 30% on ice.
Olberic: warmaster, physical attack heavy already.
Primrose: starseer, sorcerer. same reason as ophilia
Alfyn: runelord, starseer. starseer helps support, runelord let's him provide runes when he's not healing.
Therion: sorcerer all the way. 60% fire boost ignis ardere, with a possible 30% on wind and ice, another debuff, and a great way for him to attack? yes! he can use steal SP and SP saver to keep his SP topped off, with elemental edge surpassing power and bp eater to boost damage.
Hannit: warmaster. bcomes a physical attack god, especially with high crit and take aim almost guaranteeing crits.
my sorcerer pick: therion. he and tressa are about the same as sorcerer, but she's needed as runelord. he also has an extra boosted element with three instead of 2.
my starseer pick: nobody! the supports are some of the best in the game, but shooting stars is horrible at Breaking and the skills are outdone by other classes' skills (take aim, donate bp, heal more).
runelord: tressa. sidestep and rest on top of the runes can let her heal everyone's hp and sp, prevent damage, and give powerful runes!
warmaster: hannit, since take aim+high crit+high patk lets her become a beast. she also has a much better divine since draefendis is just an aebers without speed scaling.
I definitely think Cyrus is better as an apothecary, since using last stand with 60% boosted ice rune from tressa makes him incredibly powerful.
olberic can be a hunter or a thief. aebers is better than draefendis as well, so it's a better AOE divine.
ophilia can be your dancer when not in a party with primrose. if with her than she's kinda useless since dancer is being covered and scholar and apoc are taken.
primrose is a great scholar, since her elemental atk makes her a decent secondary mage for breaks. she can also provide alephans to therion for single target bosses, increasing his damage to 40k a HIT at level 60 combined with elemental break. (he has native elem atk up from supports, remember?)
alfyn can be a cleric for aelfrics on therion (my usual teams are OCTO and PATH) or a hunter as a decent secondary physical attacker.
I think I did it in this order with this team:
Alfyn(cleric), Therion(merchant), Primrose(scholar) H'aanit(dancer)
Sorcerer 1st (Made primrose sorcerer)
Starseer 2nd (Made H'aanit Starseer)
Warmaster 3rd (Made H'aanit warmaster)
Runelord 4th (Made Alfyn, my protag, Runelord)
And then I beat Alfyn's Chapter 4 boss with Runelord Balogar's Blade each hit dealing 7k, it was amazing -
Edit; i would have said Cyrus/Starseer would be amazing BECAUSE of the scholar's Divine skill - AoE Spells that hit enemies target one instead fo rmore potency, think makes Shooting stars ( and idk if it affects Steorra's prophecy) which plays well with him having th other 3 elements already, it also gives him access to starsong which increases both defences and evasion, of a target, which he can use on himself, or even use the BP boost spell on himself then next turn use a 3 boost spell, Yes it's not as potent as full sorcerer etc, but he is then "Self Sufficient" as he can boost himself, Deal any element damage, Reflect physical damage (if you don't use tressa, like I don't), buff allies/heal in turns you need it when an enemy is taking reduced damage, etc. This also frees up Sorcerer for primrose/ophilia who both have the tied 2nd highest Elemental Attack, and Cyrus has the 2nd highest elemental defence, so he CAN be a Potent healer, so if you want to make hima cleric overstarseer you can, but with that elemental defence, he can also take an elemental hit better, hence the physical reflection.
Therion my dude for quick farming alongside with Teresa Donate BP he can use Divine Skill at Second turn ( or First turn if Teresa quicker than Therion ) The Fact Therion DS got additional bonus damage from Speed makes it easy to pump damage , with Viper Dagger My Therion deal around 17 K Critical Non-Break damage , more than enough wipe-out Lv. 45 ~ 50 Mobs.
I hate using Teresa Runelord because Rune break the game easily, My Ophilia deal around 33 K Critical from Staff normal attack imbued with Rune Element.
olberic for sorcerer because then you're not wasting any skills its good i swear
Therion is my warmaster atm. He does so much work with debuffs. Then unleashing the divine skill with the physical augmentation skill, bp eater, and surpassing power and I get about 13k-15k per hit about depending on the enemy. Not the best choice of class for Therion, but it works
nekoX92 Personally, I like warrior, dancer or maybe cleric better for him
Bradley Just tried out warrior Therion the other day. He does way more for my party. Thanks :)
nekoX92 Np! Therion's evasion makes him a great tank, I find ^^ plus it makes him have AoE that isn't his divine skill (though Warmaster does that too :P But incite is the main reason to use Warrior therion) which helps greatly. So yeah I think its a great fit. Not so keen great bosses like the starseer or sorcerer, though...
I might be crazy for making prim my main damage dealer with warmaster... but she hits like a train still sooo
Dude, for defeating Dreisang and Steorra(sorcerer and starseer) I took 2 days each, using dancer divine and reflective veil. For Balogar, I took a week! But when using dancer divine with reabilitate (apotecary) and empoison (why not?) I got it first try…
Has anyone tried Dodge+Reflect+Taunt on one character?
Runelord is honestly best on Tressa and Olberic.
Tressa can use Rest to heal everyone’s HP to a medium amount, and, depending on the boost, everyone’s SP.
You allow all party members to COMPLETELY ignore physical attacks, and recover SP easily without using items.
Olberic on the other hand, has 3 self buffs.
Incite: Make the entire party “more ready” to take hits, which I believe makes them miss more often, that or take less damage.
Stout wall) which increases everyone’s defense.
Abide: increase everyone’s physical attack.
I think Olberic is more focused around everyone taking hits, but taking far less damage, and doing lots of physical damage,
While Tressa is about completely ignoring physical damage, invincibility really, (you still get hit by elemental moves) and constantly healing the parties HP and MP easily.
Both are wonderful, and have their own pros and cons.
It all depends on the fight.
Post game builds make fighting normal enemies take one turn, at least that’s my experience. My Cyrus will always clear out every enemy in one move with Sorcerer as his advanced job class,
So using the Runelord really only applies to bosses, which there are almost none of in post game.
Tressa is BROKEN when fighting the war master, as the war master boss only uses physical attacks. You can beat her with only getting hit once or twice at the start of the fight.
The runelords moves are exceptionally powerful when applying runes to the party, especially if you have high elemental Attack.
I’ll use a rune in the party, and suddenly Cyrus’ 96 Damage staff attack does a second hit of 40k.
Here is an amazing video made by OhRichard that goes over the insane possibilities of Tressa’s runelord potential, including the 70k plus damage her runes can do.
czcams.com/video/KRuYdLiZqkc/video.html
It’s game breaking.
Adam Hawks Incite is a taunt, meaning that while it is active, enemies can only attack targets with the incite status (unless they use AoE). Reaaally good on Olberic and Warrior Therion, for obvious reasons, but does absolutely nothing if you give the status to your whole team
Adam Hawks Something I forgot to mention: Tressa actually has something that's just better than Transfer Rune + Stout wall. She has the Mercenary from Hired Help, which, in one turn instead of two used to set up a transfered Stout Wall, does a (weak) sword hit to all enemies for breaking purposes, and applies a defense buff to your whole party. So yeah, the only thing Olberic does that Tressa doesn't is Abide, so just use Tressa cx
Critical hits make no sense to me, sure you do extra damage...but attacks that hit weak points already do that damage and a broken enemy takes far more damage than from a critical
90 percent of your information isn't wrong this time.
NIghtmare chimera is probably the second if not the first strongest move in the game next to Alfyn's Last stand.
Watched OhRichard's and he is literally throwing Battle Tested Blades like nothing and dealing max damage to everything on the enemies side.
Did the same for myself and yeah, it just destroys everything.
Mark Drivel I was looking for a good throwaway weapon, but I was thinking why in the world would I waste money on an attack, it’s my same sentiment with Hired Help....
Wishful Thinking Channel I use hired help pretty frequently as a cheap way to break opponents.
It saves on SP if you're running low, and besides the fact you probably make more than you spend just by fighting enemies, it gives you that much more weapon variety. Atm Tressa as a scholar can hit any weakness effectively but darkness.
Same goes for Nightmare Chimera, especially since NPCs can drop weapons on rare occassions, giving you free access to weapons to break as well.
Alfys Concoct is another cheap way to break opponents shields
Wishful Thinking Channel You can grind Battle Tested weapons if you'd a high enough level
how, and where?
Since when is therion a support character ? Iv always used him as a damage dealer with no issues 🤷🏽♂️
@wishful For SP use efficiency and recovery do you think the support skill best used for a character who is utilizing the sorcerer as a secondary job would benefit more from SP recovery or from the SP recovery, second wind, or SP saver
Asking bc I’m switching it up with my characters based on your good recommendations
And do you think that having saving grace equipped as a support skill for all characters sort of eliminates the need for a super hi Max, HP level
High*
Cover Triangle Strategy?
I always make Primrose The sorcerer
When should I go get these advanced class, post game? Or whenever I want to?
perhaps I am tying to get them around mid/late game, I have completed 4 characters story. The party I used was around level 70 though.
Uh i know this is a dumb question but i accidently turned off skill descriptions. Can someone tell me how to turn them back on? With things like the starseers skills its helpful to know whats what
Press y in the menu where you select your action each turn
Honestly what it comes down to in the end for me IS the final boss, and since (SPOILERS) he has an attack that’s gets rid of your party’s status buffs, you want to quickly within a turn or two, have your party set up for dealing massive damage, so it went Obleric - Warmaster, Tressa - runelord, Ophelia - starseer, & Cyrus - sorcerer. At first I had Olberic as runelord, because it seems smart since he has all those self buffs, but when I takes forever to apply them, and the final boss can wipe them in 1 turn it’s not worth it. And because of his freakish almost 90K damage in 1 turn, I can’t pass on that. Besides, since I don’t have alfyn in the party with Tressa, she can use her transfer rune + rest to get rid of any status ailments that the party gets, and need I even say how amazing transfer rune + side step can be?? That way I also don’t have to waste a support skill on stat swap since Tressa has good elemental damage. As for Cyrus I mean come on... “wasting” 6 skills is obsolete, since you need your strongest hitting skills for the final boss. And stacking an elemental augmenter, (and passive elemental buffs), after a break, using elemental break, scholar divine, and cleric divine, you’ll easily be dealing 120K per turn, some insane numbers that’ll one shot almost any regular enemy. However if you felt like having your sorcerer and runelord in the seamen party, it works pretty well landing an elemental break followed by a nearly 30K elemental damage. As for starseer, it’s only going to go to Primrose or Ophelia, it would be nice to go to either for different reasons. Using dancer divine + moons reflection can give the whole party immunity to physical damage, however, I felt it was a better choice for Ophelia that was I could keep Primrose as a Cleric secondary for her to have some quick healing abilities, because the starseers regenerative healing won’t cut it later on, when the last boss can do 2-7K damage in one turn. aaaaaaaand that’s my thoughts about that.
transfer + sidestep is great but transfer + rest makes the party laugh at status effects.
Unpopular setup :
Ophelia as runemaster: does around 40k damage when using elemental augmentations and does around 10k per hit on the ultimate ability runelords has.
Olberic i made a warmonger, due to the ease of integration, as he would also typically hit the damage cap with nightmare chimera pretty easilly, not to mention he hit around 30-40k with the ultimate per attack..
Tressa: starseeker, it augments her bp abilities and frees her up to be totally supportive, also when everyone has full bp she can use the ultimate hitting around the cap for damage.
Therion sorcerer, now this is really unpopular because he doesn't have a very high attack with the sorcerer, however i mainly used him for breaking the enemies, having alferics on him and having him double up weaknesses can easily break a bunch of enemies, then I'd have the rest clean up. I also wanted to keep him in ther party because of his ability to steal and open purple chests.
Hann- i made her a merchant class for doubling up bp with tressa if i needed to, she made for a great tank and when she isn't supporting like therion she's breaking with arrow storm.
Alf- i honestly used hunter with him to make it easier to use leg hold trap and arrow storm when he isn't healing, in conglomeration with the ability saving Grace with his concoct ability it seems a moot point to have him or ophelia healing every turn.
Prim- cleric, now i found in some battles ophelia benefits from having a backup cleric, especially when looking to level, having two dancers and having both prim and ophelia use alpherics then pump prim up with alf or tressa or items for bewildering grace honesty was a great option..pairing her with ophelia for battles made them easy.. almost too easy when she had rune lords equipped..
Cyrus- honestly most of the game i had him be a dancer for improved odds of getting 100x exp with prim, but when i actually used him seriously i used the apocathery class, he makes a tremendous healer and tends to work in tandem with alf if they are in the same party, or if he's helping prim as a cleric against the final boss.. while ulberic is using nightmare chimera and tressa is using steorras.. either way he seemed to make for a better support character than anything to me, he is very good at healing.. and breaking.
I have a lot of unpopular class choices but they honestly seem to work pretty well for me. And no. Nightmare chimera is SO useful. But I've been playing final fantasy since the mid 90s so I have their ideology down at this point.
I play haanit warmaster therion sorcerer alfyn klerik an tresa runelord
Othelia is the best Starseer, but ALL damage dealers NEED those support skills!
Do you hold off on picking a secondary job for these? Or do you do a secondary then this?
Go ahead and pick a secondary. By the time you fight these bosses, JP is barely an issue.
Hyperencrpted12345 haha I realized after I posted how dumb the question there was, I’m currently on the chapter 4s w/ a lv 60 party w/ all the advanced subclasses😊
Saying the healing skills are obsoleted w/ Vim and Vigor and Ethereal Healing I think is a pretty incorrect statement.
1. Using your time to grant everyone Vim and Vigor I think is a waste of time since there are much better skills you can grant your entire party
2. There are times where the enemy is about to attack for lethal right after your support character takes their turn and being able to heal at a critical moment is important.
I think you severely underrate Cyrus as a Starseer, and overrate him as a Sorcerer.
Making him a Sorcerer is redundant, rendering the entire Scholar class obsolete, other than Analyze, so your only benefit is modest stat gains over Primrose or Ophelia, who have the benefit of an entire support class to compliment the Sorcerer's pure damage. There's little significant reason to ever make Cyrus a Sorcerer.
In contrast, if you turn Cyrus into a Starseer, the class's one offensive spell deals damage from the three types he does not already cover, letting him effectively attack every element, and he becomes a much more flexible and useful unit, with strong offense and utility, particularly while standing next to an Ophelia or Primrose Sorcerer.
Not attacking with Cyrus isn't really any more wasteful than not attacking with Ophelia, and folks do that all the time. The difference between them is not very big.
Blue Rose Blade you just blew my mind, thank you! I’m going to check this out!
That’s exactly what I do, means you can have two characters with complete elemental coverage
If you add Alfyn to the party, you have three.
Dude I’m rocking this combo and loving it! I thought I wouldn’t want to waste my time using buffs when Cyrus is so strong, but now I have Ophilia as a Sorc and she’s blasting these guys, and I have two characters with full elemental coverage, not including my runeblade. Good call!
I disagree. It totally depends on your team. My Ophilia is a support character first and foremost, only attacks when she has a free turn. Cyrus on the other hand is 100% offensive. If he's not attacking, he's not doing his job. So in this case, Sorcerer is a perfect fit as it just further enhances his offensive capabilities. No reason to go half and half when you can all the way.
Do you think Nightmare Chimera will work like throw item like Shadow throws the atima blade in Final Fantasy 6?
its like throwing an item in breath of the wild
Bluwizerd boi that's all? That's crap damage just one more hit. In the FF games it's a whole thing atk+sp atk+elm. Does monster damage in 6 there is even an item you can throw that one hit Kos the last fight in the game. Sounds something nich like that. This have takes a lot from 90s jrpg.
But if that is all it is. Wow what a wasted idea
I love therion starseer
Can I ask dose the damage form the rune is basse on Elemental damage form the user of the rune or they are basse on the Elemental damage form the Attaquer (exemple if Olberic attaque whit a rune dose it do low damage even if it Ophilia that put the rune?)
I believe the damage is based on the attack used
@@WishfulGamer You mean it depend on the physical stats / damage of the Attaque / damage? Exemple: True Strike
would do more damage than let say Arrowstorm (since Arrow storm dose less damage / hit)
Any way Thx for the info (Tho I am not sure yet what I will go for thinking may be Ophilia or Tressa Runelord (tho may be Ophilia will be Sor afterall she got quite alot of BP to do crazy Spell) compare to the 15 needed for Runlord...))
Whoa what, Runeblade is not the easiest imo. I beat Warmaster and Sorcerer at 51-54, I'm 58 now and Runeblade has wiped me multiple times
What’s your setup like? Level hardly matters, I beat runeblade with no advanced classes at level 56
Wishful Thinking Channel Cleric Alfyn, Thief Tressa, Sorcerer Primrose and Warmaster Olberic. I ended up giving everyone resist ailments on my last attempt and it made a huge difference, just beat him. It was those AoE stunlocks that were getting me.
Bluwizerd boi yeah he frigged me right in the chocolate factory dude, it was brutal. Felt like I was fighting Oprah. "YOU GET A SLEEP, YOU GET A SLEEP, YOU GET A SLEEP! NOW everyone look under your chairs! STUNS FOR *EVERYONEEEE!*"
Rune Blade was my hardest as well.
I've beaten starseer and warmaster at lv 40. Each fight took about 45 mins though lol
Is it possible to master all the subclasses with one character?
I did it with Cyrus
the starseer boss was the easiest for me and it was the first one i did
Thorin damage is good as a hunter
Is this a NPR podcast
The first one that I took on was starseer lmao
Edplosion it was such a difficult battle for me. I was throwing my joycon.
what really? lmao I beat it on my second try without having an advanced class (obviously). The boss I've struggled with the most was Alfyns chapter 3 boss, the recommended level was 32 and all of my party members were 40+, he still beat my butt so hard lol im still having flashbacks and nightmares every now and then
Edplosion lol, Starseer was originally the first one I started with, and I DESPERATELY tried to beat it after countless failed attempts while pulling an all-nighter the other night so I could start writing this video. AND STILL DIDN’T WIN. I was so irritated lol. So I ended up trying each boss until I got close to beating one, and decided to keep trying at the the Runelord. Got him in two tries.
i beat it 1st try with only sorcerer and warmaster
runelord killed me multiple times because of runestorm lightning then ice
WAR MASTER CYRUS BECAUSE WHY NOT
How do you get any of this?
Highly recommend this channel for that info! czcams.com/video/MLdddnQ25Ac/video.html
Ophiia - Sorcerer
Therion - Starseer
Alphyn - Hunter (Hello, legholder! Plus, he now has crit. Come on.)
Tressa - Dancer (Starseers BP boost to all allies? Offensive buffs? Please and thank you.)
I honestly find neither runeblade nor warmaster all that good. And yeah, sure, being able to dodge a phys attack at guarantee is nice and all... but, really, it's not like I'm not gonna have every enemy broken and dead before turn 2 - and bosses will be trapped and broken far too often for this to matter.
Warmaster is just... useless to me. The VERY few enemies that don't have element weaknesses will still break rather fast as the party still has all 6 weapon types.
Watch nnli video to warmaster