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  • An outstanding conversation with Douglas Murray: How the left became so radical-the lack of debate, "anti-racism" training, corporate wokeness, critical race theory, and infantile thinking. Plus, some excellent advice for those afraid to speak their minds. Enjoy!
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    0:00 Welcome Douglas Murray
    1:41 Where does his courage come from?
    5:43 Understanding the value of the left
    8:22 Understanding true evil
    14:20 When Dennis lived in England
    15:56 The Intellectual Left: Where did they come from?
    18:15 The lack of debate on the left
    19:38 The left’s absurdity: Writing
    21:35 The left’s absurdity: Music
    24:36 The left’s absurdity: Corporate Wokeness
    30:10 Not a real gay?
    32:45 Speak out and risk your grade or career?
    37:28 Creating racial tension that doesn’t exist
    38:50 How the right should respond
    41:00 To Have Happiness: Gratitude is key
    45:12 To Have Happiness: Understanding true suffering
    46:43 How to break down Critical Race Theory
    51:07 Always ask: Compared to what?
    52:22 Chaos in God-shaped holes
    57:50 Thank you for joining this special episode

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  • @danh5150
    @danh5150 Pƙed 3 lety +424

    "To my amazement, a vast number of people in the west do not appreciate the west".
    Truer words were never spoken.

    • @galaxy-star-me
      @galaxy-star-me Pƙed 3 lety +4

      No , they appreciate the West but only Marxism !

    • @goban2
      @goban2 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Unfortunately, Karl Marx's writings were a product of western thought. The evil motives behind the conceptual framework he helped design contained the seeds of it's own destruction.

    • @goban2
      @goban2 Pƙed 3 lety

      grfdgd gdfgdfgd I’ll go along with part of that, but I’ll have to research your allegation of 100% Eastern origins. Much of Karl Marx’s conceptual framework was derived from Hegel. If he was inspired by eastern philosophy, I’m not aware of it

    • @goban2
      @goban2 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      grfdgd gdfgdfgd Well, i’m no expert. If you are right about eastern origins making impacting western thought whereby the collective is treated as more valuable over the individual and the freedoms it’s based on, I won’t argue with you.

    • @segasys1339
      @segasys1339 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      This isn't all that amazing. When anything is the soup you swim in you take it for granted.

  • @ajordan26able
    @ajordan26able Pƙed 3 lety +1478

    I was left until Donald Trump was elected. Then the left showed its true colors. I voted 3rd party in that election and didn't like Trump at all. I couldn't believe the vicious attacks against the President Elect, but what really shocked me were the attacks against Trump supporters. People I had known a long time who I used to think we're nice turned vicious. I had never realized how authoritarian the left actually is. Now I know, and I don't like it all, to put it mildly.

    • @fatetestarossa2774
      @fatetestarossa2774 Pƙed 3 lety +49

      WELL SAID

    • @jamesberg3106
      @jamesberg3106 Pƙed 3 lety +45

      Wow. My exact thoughts and what I did.

    • @Chi-x
      @Chi-x Pƙed 3 lety +39

      Your experiences are similar to what I have observed in the past four years. So true!

    • @allisonforet3281
      @allisonforet3281 Pƙed 3 lety +55

      Hope you voting Trump this time around! I also did not vote trump last time. Nor did I vote Hillary. Straight republican ticket for me this time.

    • @ibanezdudeck
      @ibanezdudeck Pƙed 3 lety +49

      I feel you there. In 2016, I voted for Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians depending on their policies and the position they were running for. Now, I feel like the entire DNC needs a big slap in the face. They keep propping up more vicious and radical people and pushing this narrative that everyone else is evil and must be persecuted.

  • @Ryguy87c
    @Ryguy87c Pƙed 3 lety +23

    Douglas Murray has one of the best minds of our time.

  • @tdevry
    @tdevry Pƙed 3 lety +96

    I have always liked Douglas but I now like him even more. Sensible and trustworthy.

  • @Milestonemonger
    @Milestonemonger Pƙed 3 lety +564

    My job has taken me to rich countries, poor countries, developing countries and even war zones. Until you've seen with your own eyes how others live, it's impossible to appreciate how rare and wonderful America is.

    • @katherinecornette5315
      @katherinecornette5315 Pƙed 3 lety +19

      So true! The vitriol being shouted about how awful Americans are is based on ignorance!

    • @dianetrue2396
      @dianetrue2396 Pƙed 3 lety +20

      Back in 1995 my husband and I went to Italy for 2 weeks, we were very grateful to return home with eyes wide open and very aware how much we took for granted and how much our grand parents sacrificed to come to the USA so we could have a better life.

    • @Doxymeister
      @Doxymeister Pƙed 3 lety +17

      It's amazing for those of us who have spent time abroad, being lectured on the sins and inequities of America, by those who have likely never traveled outside their own birth-state.

    • @alexandersvideopicks8735
      @alexandersvideopicks8735 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      Amen. Been there, seen that, got the t-shirt.

    • @edithnogueira7899
      @edithnogueira7899 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      Exactly. Traveling is an eye opener. Americans are blessed to live in this country. A country full of opportunities to excell in anything you dream off, the sky is the limit, but it's up to you to take the challenge or not.

  • @RavenNiffler
    @RavenNiffler Pƙed 3 lety +264

    The fact it’s now racist, evil, bigoted to tell people we should be happy, motivated, grateful, successful.... it’s madness.

    • @MP-ef9yo
      @MP-ef9yo Pƙed 3 lety +2

      who ever said that?

    • @llewodcm20
      @llewodcm20 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      @@MP-ef9yo Do you speak to many leftists? Imply any burden of responsibility and self-ownership on minorities, women, or any other "oppressed victim", and you get the bigot label slapped on you. "Treat everyone with kid gloves and retard their progress, OR ELSE!"

    • @MP-ef9yo
      @MP-ef9yo Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@llewodcm20 yes I do and listen to them. Not put words in their mouth. None of them ever said its racist to be happy or treat everyone with kid gloves. Please cleans your ears out. They say to treat others with compassion. I don't know why that's so difficult for you or makes you so angry. It costs $0.00 to be a good person.

    • @Dustshoe
      @Dustshoe Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Good clues to the truth in your statement RN have been in pop music and television dramas. The irritatingly pained expressions of pop 'performers' and actors abound these days. Their tedious output these days is misery guts stuff, too. It's as if they have to convey the impression that they suffer in real life. And yes, you owe them!
      Back in the 70s and 80s, we looked for every scrap of entertainment we could find to cheer ourselves up. Light entertainment on television and easy listening songs were the staple fare, in the public square if you will.
      And look at those hearings in Washington, where people get a grilling. If you told a joke in that environment, someone is bound to complain vociferously about the offensiveness of the joke. The humour does not outweigh the thunderous feelings.

    • @MP-ef9yo
      @MP-ef9yo Pƙed 3 lety

      @Joseph Wilkinson what did i lie about?

  • @kelleylahner9503
    @kelleylahner9503 Pƙed rokem +15

    Please do second fireside chat with Douglas Murray. Delightful!

  • @alexlindstrom555
    @alexlindstrom555 Pƙed 3 lety +304

    I’m a gay dude like Douglas. I‘ve been called homophobic just because I believe differently than the more Left gay community.

    • @karinefonte516
      @karinefonte516 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @chris andrewes Just because he's elegant and sounds flaunting doesn't mean he didn't have to break a few barriers to get where he is.

    • @alexlindstrom555
      @alexlindstrom555 Pƙed 3 lety +19

      @OverLord Opps I hate to admit it, but I kind of do listen to Douglas because because he and I share some common attributes. But it’s just refreshing for me to find someone else who isn’t trapped in what I like to call “the gay mob.”

    • @LM-kt2er
      @LM-kt2er Pƙed 3 lety +30

      I’m a Hispanic lesbian and voted Trump, why would I vote for hate, violence and intolerance the other side displays and tries to justify. I live and am grateful to God for being born in America where I am given the same opportunity as others here. I’ve taken those opportunities and worked hard all my life and enjoy the modest fruits of my labor.

    • @alexlindstrom555
      @alexlindstrom555 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @OverLord Opps I know it’s happened!!! I know Dave Rubin’s been called homophobic. Another prominent figure (I heard this from Dave) was told he’s not truly gay because he’s a conservative or at least is a liberal who thinks differently from the mob. It’s a strange thing to tell someone..

    • @fernandoalarcon8534
      @fernandoalarcon8534 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@alexlindstrom555 they continue to attack him. Call him lazy, he didn’t do any research, and is a sell out. All this from the party of tolerance.

  • @cooperwesley1536
    @cooperwesley1536 Pƙed 3 lety +232

    I wish I had Murray's brain, but I'll settle for a steady supply of his video interviews on CZcams. Thank you, Dennis, for giving Murray a platform. He's brilliant.

  • @danielwyvern5
    @danielwyvern5 Pƙed 3 lety +1017

    “What do you call a happy black person? A Republican.” Brilliant!

    • @GabyHannaheavenseeker
      @GabyHannaheavenseeker Pƙed 3 lety +29

      @sarahmoore grimke you mean that women that was a democrat until they attacked her ? yeah brilliant honest women, i wish all women were like her. the socialist/communist and most godless people will eat their own and wonder why every 1 will leave. it's just normal people learn from their mistakes and move on with their lives pushing forward just look at china. sorry I'm not American but the communist have had a negative role in our country(trying to merge it with another country, bribing locals to revolt ext) so i keep an eye on their activities where i can and their tactics are similar all over but have improved to go unnoticed in the places where they can achieve the biggest impact from the inside out(like changing a generation through education) like Europe and the US .Be safe.

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      @sarahmoore grimke Yowsah, honeychile...not to worry, ya next welfare check's on its way

    • @kmiller36
      @kmiller36 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Herman Cain...miss him!

    • @godgunsandgoldens
      @godgunsandgoldens Pƙed 3 lety +19

      @domhnall777 There are undeniable truths in life without Politics. The Democrats rely on emotions that cause a person to be unhappy therefore vote for them to fix it. The only person who can make your life better is yourself. Government should not be relied on for your happiness.

    • @bagustsson4112
      @bagustsson4112 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      BLM - Black Life Miserable

  • @Ogma3bandcamp
    @Ogma3bandcamp Pƙed 3 lety +28

    Douglas Murray is a beautiful, careful champion of a man.

  • @zevgoldman6769
    @zevgoldman6769 Pƙed 3 lety +10

    Just what I expect; excellence on every level. Thanks Dennis and Douglas.

  • @megg.6651
    @megg.6651 Pƙed 3 lety +129

    "GRATITUDE!"....THIS is why I love Douglas! I am a high school teacher in an "urban" district in which the learned helplessness & victim mentality runs rampant. Last week I had my students watch a video about an organization called "Charity Water". It was made by an American young man who went to Liberia as a volunteer photojournalist. He discovered young girls travelling miles to fetch water from dirty ponds for their families - water that has caused disease across the country & trips that do not allow for many to attend school.
    I then asked my students to react to the video by specifically think about how this new knowledge affects their attitude about their lives here. Many cited their gratitude for having clean water to drink every day. I am glad, at least, that many were able to reach that feeling of gratitude, at least for just that day.

    • @davidrenton
      @davidrenton Pƙed 3 lety +6

      in the UK they are seeing that a 'White saviour' there is a long tradition of Charity , i.e. Live Aid, Red nose day raising money, sending money to places like Africa, sure you get the typical disingenuous celebrity riding on it's coattails.
      But now giving to a charity as a white person that help's black people in Africa is being seen as racist, a superior, a saviour attitude. So all that will end, Foreign investment in Africa, probably racist , helping anyone black probably racist.

    • @christopherkerzel2165
      @christopherkerzel2165 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Gratitude is a cornerstone of stoic philosophy. I wish the education system would allow the consideration of things like stoic philosophy as this would result in a better society.

    • @luckydave328
      @luckydave328 Pƙed 3 lety

      Liberia? That's interesting. Created by America 'repatriating' ex-slaves. A disaster.

    • @theBaron0530
      @theBaron0530 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Introduce your students to Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams.

    • @kasvinimuniandy4178
      @kasvinimuniandy4178 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      well done!!!

  • @mdorn6592
    @mdorn6592 Pƙed 3 lety +401

    Time to put the children in their playpens...and bring the adults back to the table. We need solid leadership

    • @nathanc1496
      @nathanc1496 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      @sarahmoore grimke “whataboutism” Trump isn’t indicative of the greatness of the US or the West as a whole. The only sad thing about Trump is that he’s the only leader still fighting for its values. It deserves a better leader, but the new wave of anti-western sentiment has made it impossible for anyone else to rise up. If you’re unapologetic in your appreciation of its values you’re labeled the worst things possible. This makes Trump the only one capable of standing up for it because he doesn’t give a shit about bogus claims of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. This isn’t the problem of Trump, it’s the left that made him the only one remaining that will stand up for the west’s values.
      Own this, realize how screwed we are and make sure people who do defend the western values aren’t unfairly attacked by leftists who share no values with the enlightenment. The right doesn’t do a perfect job of reigning in their extremists, but they sure as hell of a lot better job than the left who can’t defend a light post from bugs if their life depended on it even though they live in the most liberated and free place in all of world history.

    • @loganbillings8888
      @loganbillings8888 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @sarahmoore grimke those same people feel galvanized when a white person wins UFC. They were emboldened during Obama as well. Your point is moot, and really just shows how short sighted you are. All of the bogus claims against him have been proven a hoax, and a lot of them were straight up lies.

    • @ApartmentKing66
      @ApartmentKing66 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      @sarahmoore grimke Speaking of being confused, I wouldn't talk. The Democrats still have you bamboozled and drinking their Kool-Aid.

    • @TheOtherCaleb
      @TheOtherCaleb Pƙed 3 lety

      @sarahmoore grimke
      Experts don’t exist

    • @duggydugg3937
      @duggydugg3937 Pƙed 3 lety

      great arm chair assertion

  • @alanaadams7440
    @alanaadams7440 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    My grandmother was from Norway when I was young she told me everyday how lucky I was to be born in America. I have never forgotten that I am grateful

  • @jane6732
    @jane6732 Pƙed 3 lety +20

    "Compared to what?" Excellent. A nephew once said he believed everyone should be equal. I asked what he meant by equal. Crickets...

  • @ratherbwithhorses
    @ratherbwithhorses Pƙed 3 lety +68

    Gratitude is desperately lacking with most people. Many have never had a big problem to overcome and therefore explode over minor things, their self importance is overwhelming.

  • @andyfield7397
    @andyfield7397 Pƙed 3 lety +157

    Douglas Murray - absolute legend of logical sensible reasonable thought and very articulate

    • @pharmagator
      @pharmagator Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Chris.. Petulant child...

    • @trumurray8033
      @trumurray8033 Pƙed 3 lety

      Sliver tongued alright

    • @Dustshoe
      @Dustshoe Pƙed 3 lety

      How about a couple of legendary commas in your comment. Your punctuation does not so much need brushing up as exists.

    • @andyfield7397
      @andyfield7397 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@Dustshoe he eats punctuation for breakfast

  • @regalsmartie11
    @regalsmartie11 Pƙed 3 lety +104

    "They dont know what evil is." True to the core.

    • @regalsmartie11
      @regalsmartie11 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @Skylet Bandan so true. Post modernism. But they do also think that anyone not on their woke cult side is actually evil. Cognitive dissonance of those types is off the charts. :-/

    • @regalsmartie11
      @regalsmartie11 Pƙed 3 lety

      @Skylet Bandan yep, indeed.

    • @itechnwrite
      @itechnwrite Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Not only do they not know what evil is, they do not recognize their own potential to become evil.

    • @regalsmartie11
      @regalsmartie11 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@itechnwrite yes for sure, coz they dont know or dont "believe" in evil, except anyone who disagrees with them. Fcukin morons they are. They need Jordan Peterson!

    • @mikeborrelli193
      @mikeborrelli193 Pƙed 3 lety

      They know what it is... They see it every day when they look in the mirror...

  • @cuttheknot4781
    @cuttheknot4781 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    So very needed is the clarity and thoughtfulness of this interview. I love that Dennis was so visibly happy for this gathering of men of meaning and purpose. We need to bottle clarity of mind and have a party.

  • @zoodidwa
    @zoodidwa Pƙed 3 lety +71

    Douglas Murray is wonderful. A much needed mind and voice of reason.

  • @slreight
    @slreight Pƙed 3 lety +286

    Brilliant episode. Thoroughly enjoyed listening to Douglas Murray.

    • @fatetestarossa2774
      @fatetestarossa2774 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Me Too
      : )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    • @andylagger551
      @andylagger551 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Me too! He talks like Dracula! Throughly entertaining..."Yesssss....You WILL give up your blood...." I can just imagine him saying that....

    • @JackSmith-hx8zh
      @JackSmith-hx8zh Pƙed 3 lety

      @@andylagger551 Made me laugh, if no-one else 😆

  • @SayWhatSuca
    @SayWhatSuca Pƙed 3 lety +47

    Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society" dives deep into this subject

  • @karenfornwalt9929
    @karenfornwalt9929 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Two of my favorite thinkers together on this video, beyond exciting ! I've been listening to Dennis Prager since the 90's, and discovered Douglas Murray within the past decade. I appreciate each of their contributions to conservative thought and actively seek out their thoughts on today's political scene. Thank you Dennis Prager for this opportunity to watch the two of you exchange ideas.

  • @brendanburgess2071
    @brendanburgess2071 Pƙed 3 lety +141

    Bank: love happens here
    Douglas: just give me my monthly statement.

    • @LRTrack
      @LRTrack Pƙed 3 lety +3

      "But we love your money..."

    • @perarheim1255
      @perarheim1255 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      It's the financial banks piggybacking off an old sperm bank jingle, some PR guy got overzealous about universal branding equality.

    • @rc0ll18
      @rc0ll18 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Murray is right about banks covering themselves for past scandals, but it's also a cynical marketing ploy. It's common theory in marketing that if you're able to tie your product to an emotion, that will increase sales. So everyone from banks to supermarkets to biscuit companies will blast rainbow flags and 'Love is Love' slogans around for a month because there's a strong percentage of the population who internalise the message, get the emotional response and then buy the product. But if support for gay rights dipped back below 49%, those companies would take those flags and throw them out the back and not even think twice about it.

  • @thepaleceltic7137
    @thepaleceltic7137 Pƙed 3 lety +624

    This is one of THE BEST Fireside Chats that have been done. Dennis and Douglas are wonderfully insightful! Well done!

    • @michaellamont2605
      @michaellamont2605 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      I wish I was a fly on the wall.

    • @captbloodeye5596
      @captbloodeye5596 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      I agree. Absolutely superb.

    • @stump-bossBIll
      @stump-bossBIll Pƙed 3 lety +8

      I just made the same comment before I saw yours.....here here....mega dittos

    • @CarlGorn
      @CarlGorn Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@michaellamont2605 Let's face it. You _really_ wish you were Otto. lulz

    • @EG-hw8re
      @EG-hw8re Pƙed 3 lety +4

      I wish I had a relative like them, would have learned so much at an earlier age

  • @ho8464
    @ho8464 Pƙed 3 lety +12

    This is one of my favorite videos of all time. As a college freshman, I am putting this enlightened philosophy to good use.

  • @ArtStoneUS
    @ArtStoneUS Pƙed 3 lety +9

    During my diversity training at work, I asked the pair of HR women if affirmative action had the unintended consequence of causing corporations to choose black women over black men, resulting in hurting the black community by undermining the role of men in their lives. Needless to say, they had no idea what I was asking.

  • @LewsTherin100
    @LewsTherin100 Pƙed 3 lety +94

    Otto and Douglas Murray.......my evening is complete

    • @jenloveslife8890
      @jenloveslife8890 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      mine, too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @melhawk1352
      @melhawk1352 Pƙed 3 lety

      Could you hear Otto snoring? (or was it just me?)

  • @elainevinall6755
    @elainevinall6755 Pƙed 3 lety +53

    I was reading Douglas Murray’s The madness of crowds as CZcams notified me of this episode of fireside chat. Very well researched and insightful read 👏 Awesome interview 👍

  • @deathofcommonsense
    @deathofcommonsense Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Douglas Murray is one of the contemporary world's rare elements, a wise man :)

  • @jonathanyaakobi5858
    @jonathanyaakobi5858 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    An absolutely inspiring conversation - passionate, humane, fair, insightful and balanced. Thank you so much Dennis. And Douglas - You are a star.

  • @arleatham
    @arleatham Pƙed 3 lety +30

    I'll watch anything with DOuglas Murray, an absolutely incredible thinker and writer

  • @Oneironaut9
    @Oneironaut9 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    I've been listening to Douglas Murray alot recently. So wonderful to see him with Dennis here. Quite synchronistic.

  • @emjay9869
    @emjay9869 Pƙed 3 lety +23

    The problem is that personal experience cannot be passed on, hence humankind keeps repeating the same mistakes over and over.

    • @GambitsEnd
      @GambitsEnd Pƙed 3 lety +2

      It certainly can, it's called history. Sadly, few are taught it and fewer still heed it. Lots of available wisdom that goes ignored.

    • @emjay9869
      @emjay9869 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@GambitsEnd You are talking about knowledge. I am, on the other hand, talking about personal experience.

  • @andrealeclair162
    @andrealeclair162 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Two brilliant intellectuals chatting together. Each time I hear Douglas, I learn something new. Thank you.

  • @sp-lc1fy
    @sp-lc1fy Pƙed 3 lety +33

    "Wildly ignorant of history", oh my God, yessssss!

  • @karenthomas2302
    @karenthomas2302 Pƙed 3 lety +105

    I felt bad for my youngest daughter, she’s told me she became a teacher because of my love of history. Well she’s on her 2nd yrs of teaching and she has 6-8 grade special Ed, when she was done teaching one day she had to cry, not one of her students had ever heard of 9/11 so she brought in the video of the whole thing happening, she didn’t do any sugar coating, then they had a Q and A on it after, she was completely taken aback from how little they teach in schools as far as history goes. So she’s been trying to teach everything she can each week on any one war, or peace time history of how our nation came to be. She’s been surprised how little they know. I find this completely appalling how our history has been removed from the books. 😱

    • @sjoerdderks4731
      @sjoerdderks4731 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Your daughter shouldn't give up, she can turn the tide to learn those kids history.
      Me myself im a fan of history (world war 1 and 2 i know the most off,my exuse for not knowing much about the American history is because im Dutch) and its important to learn the triumhs and mistakes of our ancestors our were doomed to make the same mistakes.

    • @karenthomas2302
      @karenthomas2302 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@sjoerdderks4731 this why she chose to be a teacher and she has no thoughts of giving up, she’s just teaching them our history a little at a time each week I guess you can say giving them the history bug. lol 😂 she loves teaching, only thing that has made it hard for her and them has been this virus, and the closing of the schools, the good points where every child got a lap top that couldn’t afford one, and the Zoom accounts she was able to continue to teach. She loves it, she’s my one child that has refused to have children but calls her students her children, so I told her yay I get 28-30 new grandchildren each year. lol she told me I was funny. Haha

    • @honkytonkinson9787
      @honkytonkinson9787 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      The public schools push STEM so hard there is t any time for music, art, PE, history, or literature. To be fair, this was pushed really hard by George W Bush. All those kids are getting old enough to vote now. We need to push back and ask for more history and literature. Problem is the way I was taught history and literature in school was really boring; it was all memorization of names, dates and places. I'm always amazed about how culturally illiterate people in general are these days. All they know is TV, pop music, and social media!

    • @RedGibsonsRock
      @RedGibsonsRock Pƙed 3 lety +8

      Young people not knowing basic world history? How convenient......for somebody.
      And how Orwellian.

    • @MP-ef9yo
      @MP-ef9yo Pƙed 3 lety +1

      ive been teaching sped middle school for years. Did she give them quiz or ask them questions about it a few days later?
      Did they get the questions right? Its not that its not taught, its that the kids have learning disabilities and struggle with retention

  • @ellianallon
    @ellianallon Pƙed 3 lety +26

    What a wonderful interview. A particular delight was hearing the dog snoring in the background.

  • @Doing_Time
    @Doing_Time Pƙed 3 lety +18

    Having much older brothers who willingly bullied me for the first 8 years of my life before they moved out made me very courageous...or more correctly, I'm not going to win anyways, so I've always fought to ensure I am heard and felt without regard to whether I can win each battle

  • @cincin2u
    @cincin2u Pƙed 3 lety +16

    Murray and Prager have the ability to say powerful truths succinctly. So invaluable.

  • @AskAScreenwriter
    @AskAScreenwriter Pƙed 3 lety +18

    51:08 He hits on one of the questions I always credit Thomas Sowell with (Though they may come from someone else):
    1) Compared to what?
    2) At what cost?
    3) What hard data backs that up?
    I add a fourth myself:
    4) What hard data contradicts that?
    Ask those four things whenever you can.

    • @zeweichen5473
      @zeweichen5473 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Maybe also "what problem are you trying to solve?"

    • @AskAScreenwriter
      @AskAScreenwriter Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@zeweichen5473 that's what I think is the starting point: define the problem, propose the solution, then evaluate using those questions. Of course, it's often good to verify what "problem" someone's REALLY trying to solve, too!

  • @droe2570
    @droe2570 Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Towards the end was great (the whole thing was excellent) when they talk about the assertion makers as being ignorant and just making things up. This is 100% true. I have encountered this in conversation after conversation, where these people constantly display total ignorance of every subject they pretend to know so much about.

  • @MrVvulf
    @MrVvulf Pƙed 3 lety +18

    53:54 "Our society has only God shaped holes. Places where God was, that need filling."
    That's a great insight, and perfectly succinct phrasing.
    Bravo, Mr. Murray, bravo!

  • @IamN...
    @IamN... Pƙed 3 lety +76

    "Don't trust anyone over thirty!" verbalized by those who were "radical" leaders, identified as something "cool/popular" to aspire toward, silenced so many elders who were trying to share past experiences; especially those experiences concerning the atrocities of the past, inflicted by Socialists, Marxist, Fascists, Communists, etc. They will always target the children first.

    • @inaccessiblecardinal9352
      @inaccessiblecardinal9352 Pƙed 3 lety +13

      They've done their work so well that I no longer trust anyone under 30.

    • @mackk123
      @mackk123 Pƙed 3 lety

      *dont trust anyone over 30, unless it's one of our many pro israeli rabbi anti White bankers* -leftists

    • @tinatester4061
      @tinatester4061 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Well let's not forget Hillary Clinton has been after your children for many years

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 Pƙed 3 lety

      Funny I would say the opposite

    • @mackk123
      @mackk123 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Banks fund communism, they funded russian communism in 1917, they funded the German civil war in 1918, and declared war on Germany March 24, 1933.
      forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/

  • @tetsuan25
    @tetsuan25 Pƙed 3 lety +77

    I live in Australia and thank God every day for what I have. I'm not rich by any means but compared to so many in the world, I'm very fortunate.

    • @rossmelanson6999
      @rossmelanson6999 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      If you earned what you have, it’s not luck, jus sayin...

    • @gretelhance
      @gretelhance Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Gratitude is very important

    • @grammadrm4974
      @grammadrm4974 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Same here from America. I've worked very hard for what I do have. And I thank god every day for what i have. Goi5d friends, loving family & partial good health!

    • @dks13827
      @dks13827 Pƙed 3 lety

      Really ? Australia sucks !!! Like England, Canada, the US.

  • @gregorypetrasuk4836
    @gregorypetrasuk4836 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    What a conversation. Thank you, PragerU!!

  • @Hellzing50
    @Hellzing50 Pƙed 3 lety +10

    This interview is a very huge jewel for our times, loved it from beginning to end, I will certainly watch it again, thank you.

  • @alanlietzke5738
    @alanlietzke5738 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    Courage is not just about confronting lies. Courage is about taking action, in spite of paralyzing fear and great danger, whether facing tanks in Tiananmen Square, fighting fires aboard the Yorktown at Midway, repulsing Banzai charges on Edson's ridge (Guadalcanal), storming the beaches at Normandy, demonstrating in Hong Kong, or China, or confronting Antifa/BLM thugs in Portland, Chicago, or Seattle. The common denominator is fear, not just lies.

  • @traceyreid4585
    @traceyreid4585 Pƙed 3 lety +16

    He's getting quite buff is our Douglas... I've read The Madness of crowds twice since it was released last year. I then bought the paper back on its updated release in September and gifted it to a friend. Got to spread the word of reason

  • @GambitsEnd
    @GambitsEnd Pƙed 3 lety +9

    Thank you for having this guest. I've never heard of him before and the wisdom he shows in this discussion is absolutely incredible.

  • @327gareth
    @327gareth Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Always love listening to a conversation with Douglas Murray. What I absolutely LOVE though, is hearing the dog snoring at around 31.00

  • @hannah.9259
    @hannah.9259 Pƙed 3 lety +24

    Otto asleep by the fire with not a care in the world with his tongue hanging out makes this coversation so much more superior.

  • @justinwatkins438
    @justinwatkins438 Pƙed 3 lety +159

    I am humbled by these gentlemen.

  • @dm4246
    @dm4246 Pƙed 3 lety +28

    Top intellects of our age. This should be assigned to students to analyze

  • @morganbeckstead4753
    @morganbeckstead4753 Pƙed 3 lety +17

    "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it!" Jeremiah 17:9

  • @davidfisco4128
    @davidfisco4128 Pƙed 3 lety +44

    Douglas Murray's "The Madness of Crowds" is a GREAT book. The dog has a book out too: "The Slumber of Hounds". đŸ€Ł

    • @denisecatlett7203
      @denisecatlett7203 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      😂 Sounds like something my husband would say. Very witty!

  • @gwenj5419
    @gwenj5419 Pƙed 3 lety +37

    We used to be taught in school what a great country we had. This is no longer true, sadly.

    • @gwenj5419
      @gwenj5419 Pƙed 3 lety

      No USA. But I'm pretty old. Lol

    • @phoebehamm7090
      @phoebehamm7090 Pƙed 3 lety

      Because it is no longer great, sadly.

    • @loramurray2341
      @loramurray2341 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@phoebehamm7090 but we can make it. I don’t think we should just give up.

    • @gretelhance
      @gretelhance Pƙed 3 lety

      Unions?

    • @gretelhance
      @gretelhance Pƙed 3 lety

      @@phoebehamm7090 it sure is!

  • @ramongonzalez2112
    @ramongonzalez2112 Pƙed 3 lety +7

    Two giants of philosophy; a true joy to hear their wisdom.👍

  • @jhljhl6964
    @jhljhl6964 Pƙed 3 lety +38

    I've read "The Strange Death of Europe." A must read.

  • @jerryw6699
    @jerryw6699 Pƙed 3 lety +42

    I've been to Manhattan and I've been to California, that is why I have lived in So Dak for 54 yrs.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Pƙed 3 lety

      Please stay there.

    • @magaranita
      @magaranita Pƙed 3 lety

      @@andybaldman I think the states will be telling those bailing from NY and Cali to stay in the stew they made for themselves. Build a wall around those 2 states and go full John Carpenter.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Pƙed 3 lety

      @@magaranita I love NY and CA. Rich people leaving only means housing and other prices will come down, once there are no rich people to pay high rents. Bring it on.

    • @magaranita
      @magaranita Pƙed 3 lety

      @@andybaldman I will hope you are right, but someone will have to pay all the taxes that NY and CA has levied on it's citizens. If the rich leave, who will pay? The outlook is not good, but wish you well! One thing, the Red states do not want the Rich Blue folks moving there and voting in their failed policies. Talk about fouling the nest.....

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Pƙed 3 lety

      @@magaranita If the rich leave, the same thing will happen as in the states that get more money from the system than they contribute. Everything changes and balances out. Things change, people and systems adjust. (And yes, the blue people will be moving to more red states, and that will affect their politics. See all of the rich Joe Rogans who are leaving CA for TX. For every one you hear about, there are hundreds more you don't.)

  • @hocndoc
    @hocndoc Pƙed 3 lety +13

    Murray is very well spoken, extremely logical and attractive. His ideas are even more! I appreciate the conversation about courage, picking your battles, offering alternative *equivalent* values and the God shaped hole that isn't properly filled by politics

    • @ArtStoneUS
      @ArtStoneUS Pƙed 3 lety

      I frequently encounter young people who yearn for a simpler time like 100 years ago. I try to give them a dose of reality that streets were full of horse manure, women spent much of their lives scrubbing clothes and starching shirts, and perishables were kept cold by blocks of ice delivered by the ice man pulled on a cart by a mule

  • @chadparsons9954
    @chadparsons9954 Pƙed 3 lety +30

    Got to admit, kinda jealous of Otto.
    Just chilling out, laying next to a fire, listening to a good conversation between decent folk.

    • @Hollis_has_questions
      @Hollis_has_questions Pƙed rokem +1

      Dogs don’t listen, cats do.

    • @chadparsons9954
      @chadparsons9954 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Hollis_has_questions Cats only hear what they want to hear

    • @Hollis_has_questions
      @Hollis_has_questions Pƙed rokem +1

      @@chadparsons9954 IMO cats hear everything. They choose what to react to, though. And that’s why I love them

    • @chadparsons9954
      @chadparsons9954 Pƙed rokem

      @@Hollis_has_questions And they choose to ignore, what they want to ignore... in a rather malicious manner.

    • @Hollis_has_questions
      @Hollis_has_questions Pƙed rokem

      @@chadparsons9954 Selective, judgmental. As I am, as we all are. That’s probably my favorite thing about cats. They remind me of me, only more elegant, more in control of themselves.

  • @STIG30Channel
    @STIG30Channel Pƙed 3 lety +7

    This was perhaps THE most refreshing long form discussion I’ve ever heard. Thank you.

  • @TheSymphonyOfScience
    @TheSymphonyOfScience Pƙed 3 lety +36

    Man, douglas is on fire lately

  • @Hellfrolic71
    @Hellfrolic71 Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Two of the greatest minds of our time. Just excellent. One of the best YT videos ever.

  • @gregorywilliams7134
    @gregorywilliams7134 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    These guys need to do audiobooks for every book ever written

  • @antonjoubert5037
    @antonjoubert5037 Pƙed 3 lety +4

    Ablotuletly brilliant. Thank you for this really insightful and enjoyable "fireside chat" . The discussion/Q & A distils some of the major issues of our generation into comprehensible language .This is one of the best interviews generally that I have listened to/watched. If we can all dial it up just one notch we can win this battle.
    Thank you Dennis and thank you Douglas p.s. Enjoyed Otto as well!

  • @celiaflinn7737
    @celiaflinn7737 Pƙed 3 lety +29

    Douglas Murray reminds me so much of William Buckley, with his thoughtful ideas and truly intellectual font of knowledge. Wonderful show! Lots to think about and some books to read.

    • @TheWolcar
      @TheWolcar Pƙed 3 lety

      William Buckley was i f***ing racist. James Baldwin won the debate against Buckley

  • @ASmith-cb7cd
    @ASmith-cb7cd Pƙed 3 lety +13

    The "father and son of conservative wisdom" ..loved this fireside chat!

  • @brianbivins7371
    @brianbivins7371 Pƙed 3 lety +22

    The whole COVID response from the Government is treating us like Children that in itself causes me not to want to listen to them. I am old enough and smart enough to look at the data and make my own choices during the fires I knew I couldn't go out because of my asthma I didn't need a nany state telling me to stay inside I weigh the risk and reward.

    • @bernadettefern
      @bernadettefern Pƙed 3 lety

      Yay! You are using your innate right to be a free thinker. If we look at the data from over 70 years of weather modification we can see the results of weather warfare and climate engineering projects such as the engineered fires in California and Louisiana. A free thinking, lucid adult does not need a nanny state if capable of rational discernment as you are. However the “nanny state” does need gullible individuals who predominate, unfortunately.

  • @tinahochstetler2189
    @tinahochstetler2189 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    "The privilege game is never ending and nobody can really work out how you do it."
    Exactly! they count up one persons 'oppressions' and count up another persons 'privileges' and try to set them at each others throats.
    The truth is, every one of us has some of those 'oppressions' and some of those 'privileges' in our lives.
    I'm Christian, white and 'straight.' Those count as 'privileges' that can be used against me, getting me.
    I'm also a woman, I'm old, grew up with domestic violence and divorce, then raised by my divorced Mom who worked long hours outside the home desperately trying to make ends met, low income myself all these years later, disabled. Those are all 'oppression' cards I see routinely played in the game.
    I refuse to play the game. I have happiness, peace and gratitude in my life and in my heart. I have Jesus. I feel that I'm successful in my life in my own way, which many people don't understand. Because they think we're supposed to all be miserable at best, and angry at worst.

  • @CandaceTarbat
    @CandaceTarbat Pƙed 3 lety +117

    I always look forward to the fireside chat every week. It's a gem that more people should know about.

    • @greenlife8514
      @greenlife8514 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Agreed, though sometimes boring for repetitive discussion on same points.

    • @KingPepeLePew
      @KingPepeLePew Pƙed 3 lety

      I would love to see Prager reachout to G.Edward Griffin and get his thoughts on the matters of today which Griffin himself predicted 50 years ago and has written many books on the slow socialist shift into communism.

  • @deniseg-hill1730
    @deniseg-hill1730 Pƙed 3 lety +13

    I lived in London for 40 years from 1974 to 2014 I met people who fled so called communist/socialist countries if only a huge group of them if still alive would travel around and tell people what it was really like also Iranians who escaped Iran after 1979 but the left im sure wouldnt listen.
    The way things are going i dont want to be in this world much longer. I am 70 my Father is 98 when he is gone I hope I quickly follow.

  • @l.f.p.2509
    @l.f.p.2509 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    Excellent interview! I just wish that more people could listen to these kind of conversations, reflect on these ideas, and be grateful for minds that can sort out the truth from the fuzzy mentality we are enduring these days. Thank you Mr.D. P. , keep up the great work you do.

  • @scottsandoval2148
    @scottsandoval2148 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    "compared to what?" Straight out of Thomas Sowell's vernacular!!! Love it!!

  • @iamisaid2295
    @iamisaid2295 Pƙed 3 lety +15

    I'm bingeing on DM this weekend. Can't get enough, he's the tonic we all need.

  • @jamesp8164
    @jamesp8164 Pƙed 3 lety +13

    That bit about economic thinking not filling the void is something Andrew Klavan also talks about.
    The right’s biggest mistake was to turn conservatism into a godless economic philosophy. Morality does, in fact, matter.

  • @michaelhartman2645
    @michaelhartman2645 Pƙed 3 lety +3

    I WAS SO BAFFLED. I couldn't figure out what that mating walrus sound was. I'm working alone in a really creepy old house. Paused this twice. Then it occurred to me it must be the dog snoring, sure enough 😆😆

  • @jackabel4499
    @jackabel4499 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Now that's one of the few conversations I've found both fulfilling and yet insufficient in appeasing my appetite for more!

  • @rebellaxbro
    @rebellaxbro Pƙed 3 lety +56

    I wish people were more persuaded by logic than emotion.. but sadly most humans can’t be.

    • @fatetestarossa2774
      @fatetestarossa2774 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Agree
      : (((((((

    • @gregorywade1559
      @gregorywade1559 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      A system could be devised where most voters relied on logic, but your rulers will not permit it.

    • @keelsmac01
      @keelsmac01 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      That’s not true. There’s one generation they really got. They got them from birth till 30s. Live with mom and dad till 30 stay on their ins until 26...get out on your own! That’s why you hate yourself...you have no goals..just hate.

    • @rebellaxbro
      @rebellaxbro Pƙed 3 lety

      @chris andrewes for conversation’s sake, why do most masters and doctoral grads lean heavily to the left?

  • @TheErow44
    @TheErow44 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    Brilliant - Douglas is an international treasure to the west!!

    • @ianburns6218
      @ianburns6218 Pƙed 3 lety

      He is a British national treasure thank you. The West may rest assured there are still few hearts of Oak.

  • @diacarriabutler254
    @diacarriabutler254 Pƙed 3 lety +24

    That dog literally looks like he's melted into that little sofa he's lying on.

  • @NMBeachbum
    @NMBeachbum Pƙed 3 lety +5

    Love ❀ him!!! I only wish I was as eloquent when I go up against people who don’t think and vote the way I do

  • @Bgrosz1
    @Bgrosz1 Pƙed 3 lety +31

    "Always say 'compared to what'"
    I loved that part because I regularly use that as my initial reply to a leftists assertion about how horrible something or someone is.
    The left compares things they don't like to perfection so those things are guaranteed to fail the comparison.

    • @jameseverett4976
      @jameseverett4976 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      No they compare everything to the impossible. The only standard is whether they get what they want in the moment, but even if they do there is no possibility of gratitude because that would give power to the giver, unless the giver is someone who took it from someone else in exchange for their vote - in that case, some acknowledgement is in order. So the source of everything they get must be criminal as well, otherwise their own criminality gets exposed or contrasted for what it is.

  • @shannonwashburn4126
    @shannonwashburn4126 Pƙed 3 lety +20

    Look at OttođŸ„đŸ’™đŸŠđŸ™ƒHe's almost upside down.😆What a doll.💕

  • @giselefranca3182
    @giselefranca3182 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    The excellence of sound and wise conversation. Soo enjoyable! Thank you, Prager U!

  • @steelbeard151
    @steelbeard151 Pƙed 3 lety +53

    I was thinking of King Lear when they were talking about gratitude, because he noted "How sharper than a serpent's tooth it is to have a thankless child."

    • @gretelhance
      @gretelhance Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Imagine it is important to God too

  • @CtrlOptDel
    @CtrlOptDel Pƙed 3 lety +20

    Dennis: “And here’s Otto.”
    Otto: 😝

  • @corrinnereynolds4091
    @corrinnereynolds4091 Pƙed 3 lety +45

    It should be a university requirement that American students must live overseas and serve the community they live. This will open the minds of Americans to see the greatness of America

    • @gwenj5419
      @gwenj5419 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Can't pick Europe either.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Pƙed 3 lety

      This is a very liberal and progressive idea. I'm glad to see you suggest it.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman Pƙed 3 lety

      It would also be good to have rural students in America live in American cities, and vice versa. It's a shame how many people in this country have never really left their states, particularly in the center of the country.

    • @granthunter8450
      @granthunter8450 Pƙed 3 lety

      The greatness of America past tense.Unfortunately no longer. I am a kiwi living in Australia. I would rather live in either country in preference to the once great us of a

    • @granthunter8450
      @granthunter8450 Pƙed 3 lety

      But one thing that cannot be disputed is the greatness of Douglas Murray. He is so lucid he makes me feel very inferior.

  • @dr.jonpierson5655
    @dr.jonpierson5655 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    "It's hard to know what to do with ignorance like this, especially when it is taught" - in a nutshell.

  • @CP025129
    @CP025129 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    I’m relatively new to Douglas Murray but I like his views. Thanks for an hour well spent!

  • @Holly-Berry
    @Holly-Berry Pƙed 3 lety +28

    11:52 - “It’s hard to know what to do with ignorance like this particularly when it’s taught.” - Douglas Murray

  • @jacobari6371
    @jacobari6371 Pƙed 3 lety +6

    Wow!!!! Guys thank you, when I listen to you I feel I'm not alone.

  • @r.c.7762
    @r.c.7762 Pƙed 3 lety +2

    Yay, Douglas Murray, he is excellent!

  • @Hurdle11C
    @Hurdle11C Pƙed 3 lety +11

    I forgot about Otto until he started sawing logs about 30 mins in.

  • @llewodcm20
    @llewodcm20 Pƙed 3 lety +13

    You got Douglas Murray? Top man.

    • @greenlife8514
      @greenlife8514 Pƙed 3 lety

      Yes but problem is he is gay. He failed to discipline himself.

  • @somedandy7694
    @somedandy7694 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    "Cool. Another PragerU Fireside chat!"
    *Sees Murray in the thumbnail......Loses mind from sheer excitement*

    • @drwhatson
      @drwhatson Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Ditto. I got distracted for a minute.

  • @ugjhgjf
    @ugjhgjf Pƙed 3 lety +4

    7:00 "Western civilization is something like the color that paint is until you add
    color" - Douglas Murray

  • @darkdescents3920
    @darkdescents3920 Pƙed 3 lety +11

    Hell of a line up today folks