He co-wrote the song you are probably referring to (exile). He definitely knew. I think they wrote those songs as some sort of couple therapy substitute, but it wasn't enough. She says so in you're losing me "we thought that somehow a cure would come along" why would she use "we" if she thought that he wasn't aware of their problems?
Many couples I know divorced during the pandemic. Taylor and Joe were not meant for each other. They dated and they went separate ways because they found out that love is not everything. She thought she was going to be happy having private. I think we all know Joe doesn’t want to live his life in public. He is not on the street. He will not be poor. He will receive royalties from the songs he co-wrote with her. You don’t marry someone for pity. Him not marrying her was the best thing that ever happened to her.
🕯️Dearly Beloved: I’d like to thank Joe Alwyn for Evermore & Folklore getting us through lockdown, and some of the best musical artistry ever heard from Ms. Taylor Alison Swift. (eg Invisible String🙏🏼never forget) He’s a beautiful man, and he made her happy at a very low time in her life. I think she hoped to marry him but after enough time passes, you start wondering why do I even want to marry someone who can’t wait to marry me? You’re still in love, but a little miffed, even resentful. Been there done that. Joe’s loss. He flew too close to the sun. LIP, Mr. Alwyn (Live in Peace).🕊️ P.S. Let’s gooo, Travis!🎉
@@stardustmelody2709i don't think so. He probably knows he wouldn't be able to give her what she needs (going to coachella together etc.) You really don't have to pity him or put him down. Just be happy for Taylor and Travis. ❤
He was a safe place for a while. I never thought he was the one. He seems quite dull. I saw an interview when he was asked about her, He made a comment like" well, of course I love her. I knew then, that he was not really in love with her. So I was really happy to hear they broke up. They should have just been friends.
If you only get one song then Back to December would be the one I wanted. At the time, we had never gotten an apology song from her. That was big and the song still breaks my heart.
You blew my mind. Thanks for being so good, from 74 year old swiftie ❤❤ What a break down of this (So long London. ) love it, this is healing for Tay and the swifties
Yeah, but it's unfortunate that we only hear her side of the story. I respect that Joe kept everything quiet and he didn't spill anything, idk. The whole thing is sad, hoping the best for both of them.
I never heard of Alwyn before the album release but I have to say that basing an opinion on him over part of a singer's lyrics shows a very biased and immature pov because of inability to be objective. Love Taylor Swift especially because she's not putting the blame on him completely. Listen to all of the lyrics. The light went out on their relationship long before the they finally parted. She kept pulling him back in when she should have let him go.
Not a swiftie... and anyone can say whatever they want about her; but what they can NOT say is that she can't write. She really is a true lyricist. Objectively.
Hi Patty, This was a well-done summation and I thank you for it. Would you consider doing one about what went down with Calvin Harris? I know I can look it up but I enjoy YOUR storytelling. I was a huge Swiftie in the beginning but I dropped off for about a year. Then I came back with a roar. She was Calvinized during my gap year. I heard that Calvin’s wife can only listen to Taylor when he is not around. Is that true? Why does he despise her? I'm only guessing but did she bruise his little man's ego? Thank you again for doing your research and bringing this interesting video to life. Signed, Melody
What's strange about this whole saga is in Joe's recent people magazine thing, he acknowledged that he loved Taylor and that they broke up because it just didn't work out so if he cheated that's a hell of a galling thing to say, coming from him! Like: a how dare you say he loved her when you cheated! And with how plain he seems, I find it hard to believe he'll have the balls for that. So who knows?
we don't know what happened to them, but to say that someone can't truly love someone simply because they cheated suggests you don't understand why people cheat and have a really unrealistic view of love. and I say this as someone who has never cheated.
@@maraphernalia Which again comes back to my point: how galling of him. What a vile, little man if he cheated and then try rubbing it in her face that he loved her. Nah, you don't cheat on someone you love. Miss me with unrealistic view of love. There's something fundamentally wrong in a person's mindset to cheat and try to still maintain that they love their partner. My partner can't say they love me but bust it out for another person. That's b.s. to me and if Alwyn cheated. He deserves hell as far as I'm concerned.
@@sammiemm9397no, the other commenter is 100% right and I also have never cheated. cheating is wrong, but it has nothing to do with how much you love or don't love somebody that you cheat on. nothing is that black and white, especially with love. how old are you?
I married my ex after 6 years. I left after a year. Prayed it would work for another year. Divorced 2 years after we married. Nothing ever works out the way we expect it to. Nothing. Ever. Works out the way we expect it to. 😥
How much of Taylor's exile do you think was linked to amiee's robbery? I am beginning to think that the robbery was staggered. Because everyone even amies hatters were laying off of her after that. These people are that shameless 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Taylor wasn't in love with Joe like that. I think she liked him in the way a child likes a prince. Not saying Joe was anything like a prince but I get the vibe that's the glasses Taylor was viewing him through. But deep down, she's drawn to guys like Matty Healy, Jake Gyllenhaal, Harry Styles even John Mayer. Primal guys.
full disclosure, i'm his fan not hers. Now, I loved this video because you made me laugh A LOT. The way that you say "that's so sad" had me howling each time i had to pause. It's incredible how a perception shift makes everything different, , a complete 180, because I dislike her and love him so much. I see her as an aware narc with terrible arrested development and it's completely mystifying how he was in love and loved her for so long. People are complex and mysterious It's fascinating. Great video, you're very funny, thank you,
Very, VERY far from it but delulu JoeLovers who in their ill fantasies idolize a guy whom they know so little, I mean ofc she’s gonna put him on a pedestal
That's the thing. I honestly don't see her as a narcissistic person. I agree, I don't think he could have loved her if that had been the case. Imo, I think they are good people but it just didn't work out. When they broke up in the announcement it said that their personalities did not mesh. Sometimes things just don't work out. It takes two to tango.🤷♀️
Please do yourself a favor and post every fucking name you are amazing and you will make it on CZcams. You just have to be consistent and take it from Sloan and if you’re ever in Dallas, hit me up we love you.
It must really suck when your life achievement is that someone else wrote amazing songs about you. The biggest and best thing he ever did with his life wasn’t even something he did… It was something she did.
They are the classic example of anxious-avoidant attachment relationship.
She literally gave SO many signs. Did he even listen to her music? 💔
Probably not!! He "didn't wanna go over into that world"
He co-wrote the song you are probably referring to (exile). He definitely knew. I think they wrote those songs as some sort of couple therapy substitute, but it wasn't enough. She says so in you're losing me "we thought that somehow a cure would come along" why would she use "we" if she thought that he wasn't aware of their problems?
Many couples I know divorced during the pandemic.
Taylor and Joe were not meant for each other. They dated and they went separate ways because they found out that love is not everything. She thought she was going to be happy having private. I think we all know Joe doesn’t want to live his life in public.
He is not on the street. He will not be poor. He will receive royalties from the songs he co-wrote with her.
You don’t marry someone for pity. Him not marrying her was the best thing that ever happened to her.
🕯️Dearly Beloved: I’d like to thank Joe Alwyn for Evermore & Folklore getting us through lockdown, and some of the best musical artistry ever heard from Ms. Taylor Alison Swift. (eg Invisible String🙏🏼never forget) He’s a beautiful man, and he made her happy at a very low time in her life. I think she hoped to marry him but after enough time passes, you start wondering why do I even want to marry someone who can’t wait to marry me? You’re still in love, but a little miffed, even resentful. Been there done that. Joe’s loss. He flew too close to the sun. LIP, Mr. Alwyn (Live in Peace).🕊️
P.S. Let’s gooo, Travis!🎉
It must be killing Joe to see her so happy. Thank you, Trav
@@stardustmelody2709true...Taylor swift deserved to be celebrated & loved🫶
@@stardustmelody2709i don't think so. He probably knows he wouldn't be able to give her what she needs (going to coachella together etc.) You really don't have to pity him or put him down. Just be happy for Taylor and Travis. ❤
He was a safe place for a while. I never thought he was the one. He seems quite dull. I saw an interview when he was asked about her, He made a comment like" well, of course I love her. I knew then, that he was not really in love with her. So I was really happy to hear they broke up. They should have just been friends.
Taylor Latner has one song, we pity him 🤣 Just discovered your channel and you’re hilarious. I am grateful to the algorithm
If you only get one song then Back to December would be the one I wanted. At the time, we had never gotten an apology song from her. That was big and the song still breaks my heart.
I'm pretty sure Midnight Rain was about TL
Midnight rain is probably about him too 😂
I think Taylor definitely has 2 but possibly 3
You blew my mind. Thanks for being so good, from 74 year old swiftie ❤❤
What a break down of this (So long London. ) love it, this is healing for Tay and the swifties
CONGRATS THAT SHE LIKED ONE OF YOUR POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would have the breath knocked out of me!! 🎆🎇 🎉
At least you swifties should respect him as he was there with Tay when no one else was. Please at least be respectful.
Hey Bossy!
@@stardustmelody2709 what.
A Joe Alwyn stan???? Unheard of!!! 😥
Yeah, but it's unfortunate that we only hear her side of the story. I respect that Joe kept everything quiet and he didn't spill anything, idk. The whole thing is sad, hoping the best for both of them.
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Lol. Even worse for non-native speakers than the new Camilla Cabello song
Unfortunately, and I don't know how, Joe was the black cat to Taylor as golden retriever. It should have been the other way around.
I never heard of Alwyn before the album release but I have to say that basing an opinion on him over part of a singer's lyrics shows a very biased and immature pov because of inability to be objective. Love Taylor Swift especially because she's not putting the blame on him completely. Listen to all of the lyrics. The light went out on their relationship long before the they finally parted. She kept pulling him back in when she should have let him go.
the rage reading the lyrics of so long london is real
Relationships break up all the time, it doesn't mean Joe is stupid or anything else. Give the guy a break
Not a swiftie... and anyone can say whatever they want about her; but what they can NOT say is that she can't write. She really is a true lyricist. Objectively.
Joe Alwyn has a big movie coming out. He is doing fine try plz try & fact check
Thank you……. Love it! 🙏👍💝
I think Maroon is also about Matty Healy.
aw so sad how they didn't work out. they both loved each other deeply and probably still do
This was a great breakdown! You being so offended by Joe wasting Taylors time made me laugh a little lol.
Not a swiftie but damn can she right lyricsss!!!!
If I’m correct that was her own heart beat in the song ❤❤❤
I didn’t know that! In you’re losing me? I know she used her heartbeat in Wildest Dreams
She's never looked more Joyful than now w/Travis. He went after her & sparks are still flying!
Hi Patty, This was a well-done summation and I thank you for it. Would you consider doing one about what went down with Calvin Harris? I know I can look it up but I enjoy YOUR storytelling. I was a huge Swiftie in the beginning but I dropped off for about a year. Then I came back with a roar. She was Calvinized during my gap year. I heard that Calvin’s wife can only listen to Taylor when he is not around. Is that true? Why does he despise her? I'm only guessing but did she bruise his little man's ego? Thank you again for doing your research and bringing this interesting video to life. Signed, Melody
I would watch that in a heart beat lol “Do you really wanna know where was I on April 29th” YES Taylor! We DO!!!😬😬
You are cracking me up 😂😂
This was awesome
Patty, you are so naughty! 😂 Joe really got it! You just made me laugh and cry simultaneously. YAY to Mother knighting you!! Love you ❤
lmaooooo Patty you’re my fave 😂
I’m no swiftie but I still wanna know this!
What's strange about this whole saga is in Joe's recent people magazine thing, he acknowledged that he loved Taylor and that they broke up because it just didn't work out so if he cheated that's a hell of a galling thing to say, coming from him! Like: a how dare you say he loved her when you cheated! And with how plain he seems, I find it hard to believe he'll have the balls for that. So who knows?
we don't know what happened to them, but to say that someone can't truly love someone simply because they cheated suggests you don't understand why people cheat and have a really unrealistic view of love. and I say this as someone who has never cheated.
@@maraphernalia Which again comes back to my point: how galling of him. What a vile, little man if he cheated and then try rubbing it in her face that he loved her. Nah, you don't cheat on someone you love. Miss me with unrealistic view of love. There's something fundamentally wrong in a person's mindset to cheat and try to still maintain that they love their partner. My partner can't say they love me but bust it out for another person. That's b.s. to me and if Alwyn cheated. He deserves hell as far as I'm concerned.
@@sammiemm9397no, the other commenter is 100% right and I also have never cheated. cheating is wrong, but it has nothing to do with how much you love or don't love somebody that you cheat on. nothing is that black and white, especially with love.
how old are you?
Can we have homework assignments ?
Xo, teachers pet
Whats your favorite track on TTPD?
cant pick but like WAOLOM or like i cant pick
I have several that repeat in my head, Down Bad, Fortnight and Florida!!
My Boy Breaks, Little Old Me, Aimee, Fortnight,
Cassandra ❤️ is perfect
@@nataliacaroni9656 fr
I married my ex after 6 years. I left after a year. Prayed it would work for another year. Divorced 2 years after we married. Nothing ever works out the way we expect it to. Nothing. Ever. Works out the way we expect it to. 😥
I love the swifitie rage energy
Please do ttep matty healy break down
Taylor Launter probably one song we pity him 😂😂
Not since. She said in so high school. Marry kiss or kill mr. I’m betting on all 3
How much of Taylor's exile do you think was linked to amiee's robbery? I am beginning to think that the robbery was staggered. Because everyone even amies hatters were laying off of her after that. These people are that shameless 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Am I over here being "the first"? 🏹
Yes bestie
@@Seraphina93I was so alone for a while there haha. Happy to come back and see 61 comments to peruse ✌🏻
Interesting
She referred to grey as straight relationships opposed to rainbows 🌈
Supposedly Death By A Thousand Cuts on Lover was about a Netflix movie... I don't believe it.
That was for Justin and Selena
Big scenario, what would happen if joe came begging taylors forgiveness and wanted her back, what do you think she would do?
I think that’s played out. Matty is more iffy but I still think she was so brutal to him that no
Taylor wasn't in love with Joe like that. I think she liked him in the way a child likes a prince. Not saying Joe was anything like a prince but I get the vibe that's the glasses Taylor was viewing him through. But deep down, she's drawn to guys like Matty Healy, Jake Gyllenhaal, Harry Styles even John Mayer. Primal guys.
@@sammiemm9397 she loved joe. He just neglected her and so she fell out of love and he was too sad all the time
@@maciedixon3983neglected. He neglected alright. Good job matty healy was there because alwhine must have been dull as dirt.
Just found you and youre amazingly hilarious 😂😂😂❤❤
full disclosure, i'm his fan not hers. Now, I loved this video because you made me laugh A LOT. The way that you say "that's so sad" had me howling each time i had to pause. It's incredible how a perception shift makes everything different, , a complete 180, because I dislike her and love him so much. I see her as an aware narc with terrible arrested development and it's completely mystifying how he was in love and loved her for so long. People are complex and mysterious It's fascinating. Great video, you're very funny, thank you,
He's not innocent 😝
Very, VERY far from it but delulu JoeLovers who in their ill fantasies idolize a guy whom they know so little, I mean ofc she’s gonna put him on a pedestal
That's the thing. I honestly don't see her as a narcissistic person. I agree, I don't think he could have loved her if that had been the case. Imo, I think they are good people but it just didn't work out. When they broke up in the announcement it said that their personalities did not mesh. Sometimes things just don't work out. It takes two to tango.🤷♀️
Patty you’re so cute and I love you
So I guess loml isn’t about him? I have been going back and forth between Joe or Matty.
Knight Patty. :)
Please do yourself a favor and post every fucking name you are amazing and you will make it on CZcams. You just have to be consistent and take it from Sloan and if you’re ever in Dallas, hit me up we love you.
It always weirded me out how they look like siblings....both tall blonde...i dunno lol
27:34
I think he cheated.
Yes I believe that it is in one of her songs. You met someone on the internet and took her home. Might not be the exact wording but close I think
Me too
Same
“it isn’t right to be scared everyday of a love affair”
i agree
“Joe deserves prison time”……😂😅
Dont want no other shade of blue but you…UGHH
Joe is a turkey 🎉
Do you listen to Swiftologist too?
Why are the gay swift fans/content creators so eager to put down Joe Alwyn? (Not hating, just curious)
the fact that Joe Alwyn is her "ultimate muse" explains a lot lmao
Bigger than the whole sky was about a miscarriage.
I've heard that before, I'm curious, where did you hear about that?
did joe alwin die? pass away?
No he’s taken now lol
He's dead to her.
yes.
We don't pity Taylor. Wtf? Bye Felicia. 😂😂😂
He clearly insists on being unhappy. He could have the whole world but he doesn’t have the strength to enjoy life
Boring and spirit suck!
No thank you they should have been together forever she the one who never wants to get married so they break up
then why would she write "I would marry you with paper rings"?? she talks about marriage in Lover and TTPD
It must really suck when your life achievement is that someone else wrote amazing songs about you. The biggest and best thing he ever did with his life wasn’t even something he did… It was something she did.
Lol, Joe disagrees. His biggest achievement is getting to be in movies by big directors from his debut. And kissing Margot Robbie lol
Cornelia St is about Karlie Kloss like 90% of her music.
no, it's not.
👇🏿NOBODY CARES 😂🤣😆
Not true. You may not care but you don't know what others think or care about. Speak for yourself. Just stand up and say, “I don't care.”
Please stop shouting! He who speaks the loudest has the weakest argument.