5 Things To Know Before You Start Learning CANTONESE
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Hopefully I've redeemed myself from my old video 5 years ago about 'pretending' to speak Cantonese... now I've been learning since Feb 2018 on my own using a combination of apps and trying it out with people I know! It's a fun language and definitely a great way to get into Chinese if you haven't already started :)
This is part of season two of my vlog channel, where I'll be making videos of all kinds of random things. If you want to see what I do normally, check out my main channel above.
★ PROGRAMS I USE TO LEARN CANTONESE ★
Nemo Cantonese (old app but great for flashcard work when you're on the bus or driving. I used this to learn 1000 common words and phrases): apps.apple.com/us/app/cantone...
CantoneseClass101 (podcast-style app with real world dialogues, supplementary texts and materials included. Like a less serious Rosetta Stone, and this is the only one I've found where the speakers are legit. I used this to learn grammar and real-world usage): www.cantoneseclass101.com/
★ TIMESTAMPS ★
0:00 Introduction
0:37 How long have I learned Cantonese for?
1:17 1. Difference between Cantonese, Mandarin and other dialects
4:05 2. Difference between Simplified and Traditional Chinese characters
6:07 3. Difference between Spoken and Written Cantonese
7:45 4. Get to know Jyutping - the easiest system of romanisation
10:24 5. Practice your tones... a lot
12:19 Final words
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UPDATE: I have a new video with 10 Cantonese words for beginners to start with! You can check it out here: czcams.com/video/TxlT4UrI2tM/video.html
You can also check my new video on how to COUNT from 0 to 1,000,000 in Cantonese: czcams.com/video/yMe91C-2mx4/video.html
Welcome back to another vlog! This time it's about language and my recent 2-year+ journey of self learning Cantonese. It's been fun picking up a new language and I'm hoping that this will help anyone who's looking to try a new language, or to get better at Cantonese pronunciation (although mine isn't 100% either hahaha). Use the timestamps above to skip to certain sections if you'd like.
Thanks for watching and have a great week!
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How about doing a video on mandarin of today and pre mao days, good and bad elements , points of interest etc etc
Your two diagrams on 10:50 & 11:30 are totally contradictory over the tone contours of the two rising tones (tones 2 & 5) and the falling tone (tone 4).
Please correct them.
@@evermorevictorious2742 how is it contradictory? Seems right to me haha
@@iDreamDance
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Diagram at 10:50--
tone contour for tone 2 is 35;
tone contour for tone 5 is 13.
Diagram at 11:30--
tone contour for tone 2 is 25;
tone contour for tone 5 is 23.
Please correct them!
@@evermorevictorious2742 the coloured lines are supposed to indicate the shape of the tone and how it relates in pitch to the others. For example, 2 (yellow) is a rising tone but it's steeper in its rise than 5 (green). I'm not sure what you mean by 35/13 and 25/23, so you might be misreading the chart.
Also they're the same image in both instances, so the fact that you're pointing out something different between them makes no sense haha. And I didn't make it, it's from an official Cantonese learning website.
"You cant use some simplified and some traditional"
Japanese: "Hold my Asahi"
Kanji readings are a pain in the ass...
Yea, especially 义 and 義. Both of them in simplified and traditional, the simplified in traditional is fork.
(ik it's confusing I don't have grammaaaaar)
I actually once wrote a story about a fictional megacity where Chinese is one of the five official languages, and rather than choosing either simplified or traditional, I opted to make it that the city adopted a hybrid Chinese script, where Traditional and Simplified are mixed, in a manner very similar to Japanese, though where discrepancies exist, Traditional still usually takes precedent. This was one of the MRT announcements that I came up with for flu season:
English: "Dear passengers, we ask that all passengers above the age of two wear a surgical face mask when riding public transportation. Please wear the mask properly, both in the train and in the station, and avoid boarding train cars where it is difficult to maintain social distancing, to ensure the health and well-being of our community. The MRT thanks you for your cooperation."
NMC Chinese: 尊敬乘客您好，由於最近疾病突発的関係，敬請搭乘大衆運輸時，両歳以上乗客均配戴医用口罩。請在車内及站内全程正確配戴口罩，並避免乘坐難以保持社交距離的車廂，以維護我們社区的健康与福利。MRT謝謝您的合作。
Full Traditional: 尊敬乘客您好，由於最近疾病突發的關係，敬請搭乘大眾運輸時，兩歲以上乘客均佩戴醫用口罩。請在車內及站內全程正確佩戴口罩，並避免乘坐難以保持社交距離的車廂，以維護我們社區的健康與福利。MRT謝謝您的合作。
Full Simplified 尊敬乘客您好，由于最近疾病突发的关系，敬请搭乘大众运输时，两岁以上乘客均配戴医用口罩。请在车内及站内全程正确配戴口罩，并避免乘坐难以保持社交距离的车厢，以维护我们社区的健康与福利。MRT谢谢您的合作。
@@aStoopidHuman just to clarify, fork in Traditional is 叉, 义
When you also speak canto and you have no Chinese canto friends so you search up Cantonese to feel less lonely
I was wondering if you can speak Vietnamese as well
I always feel lonely until I had you in my life.
same
@Kwong Koo my dad's favourite phrase 🙄🙄🙄
i need fren who can teach me cantonese ... i already can speak Mandarin :p
lol the "da bao" got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol dabao
It‘s a forbidden expression in my family coz (as I recalled) it implies something along the line of death🧐😂
I flippin spat my drank out😂😂😂
@Stxrs_Fxrever bag
SAME LMFAOOA
I am from Hong Kong. I am so happy to see someone is trying to learn Cantonese! And I think we generally are all very glad to know that someone is learning it! So there's no need to feel nervous practicing your Cantonese with a native speaker.
Just FYI:
1. in 死性不改, 性actually means 性格/性情 (character/personalities) so it means stubbornness (people who won't change their personalities even if they have to die.)
2. 長 is not a common last name. It means 'long' when pronounced as "coeng1" On the other hand, 張 is a common last name. The 2 words are pronounced differently.
3. Personally, I learned traditional Chinese growing up. I think it's easier for me to read simplified Chinese. Maybe something to think about if you are just starting to learn it.
Thank you for watching!! And yes I kick myself every time I think of the 性 and 長 problems haha, wish I had checked the video more carefully... I appreciate you saying that you don't mind us learners practicing too :)
@@iDreamDance Don’t worry! Mistakes are a part of progress! I have so much watching your videos! 加油呀！
A dude from a predominantly Mongolian region of Russia (namely Buryatia) here, I’m quite interested in Cantonese. There are learners in the most unlikely places
Yh i know, I’m a Chinese Jamaican and have always wanted to learn my native language. Any places or recommendations on how to learn Cantonese ?
Ma'am, should I l learn mandarin first in order to learn Cantonese?😭 Or does it matter?
Me sitting here being Chinese and knows how to speak cantonese but still watches it cuz is in my recommendation
lmao same
Yes but idk how to write it lol
Lol me too
Same LMAO
My dad speaks it and never spoke it to me growing up so I’m kinda mad he didn’t :/
As an American born chinese who has slowly lost a lot of my Cantonese over the years, watching more Cantonese videos from you would be great! Especially in addition to all the helpful percussion stuff you already do!
Ahhh I'm glad it helps! Definitely know those first-gen feels very well :|
@Stxrs_Fxrever If you haven't found one yet, Mango is an app that charges $20 /month but I use my local library to access for free, while I'm home. See if its available to you
Oml same
much of my Cantonese (2nd gen in USA) is from Ip Man et al movies haha
I feel you, except the fact that i forgot cantonese when i was 5 lol
i’m chinese and my home language is cantonese but i’m embarrassed to say it so i just respond to my family members in english. this was on my recommendation so i guess this is a sign to learn it
Don't worry, if I can self learn canto without any of my family speaking it I'm sure you'll learn even faster 😶
Omg I'm on the same boat XD, currently I am trying to fit Cantonese into my conversations more often and eventually maybe at work too
One day, maybe you'll surprise your family by speaking fluently in Cantonese XD
Traditional Chinese Characters, though seemingly complicated, is actually easier and more logical to learn
Plus, it's handsome 😏
Could not disagree more lol
I agree. It’s more logical, so the meanings are more visible. The only argument for simplified is if your writing it, but if you type, you can spot them.
@@rickli84 People don't handwrite as much with the internet, smart phones, etc. I think most people write to take notes. 樂 and 乐 is an example of how simplified characters make it difficult to decifer meanings.
Yes
Yea.. With the advent of computer typing it takes the same time to type in traditional or simplified. So some mainland Chinese can also use traditional now. And on other hand if u need to take notes quickly HK/Taiwan can use the simplified characters.
I’m just going to learn Cantonese cause I go to Hong Kong at least once a year and sometimes thrice a year. My mom’s half Chinese and can speak Cantonese
Yeah Imma move there to live with my dad and step fam and he doesn't speak cantonese so i am gonna be ahead of him hopefully
add oil add oil
I am musician, and I fell in love with this Cantonese language. Sounds like singing!
It‘s fascinating how natives don’t learn the Cantonese tones at school like English speakers learn A-Z, but non-native Cantonese learners dive into tones as part of the learning. And also everyone has their own variation of written Cantonese. It is such an interesting language.
More Canto vids pls!
Hahaha you're already good at it though!
Great video! I have much more experience with Mandarin, but most of my family speaks Cantonese. I love videos that cover learning Cantonese from a Mandarin speaker's perspective because that's how I always compare them in my head. And covering the "casual" type of words that are only spoken and not used in writing is really helpful.
Great job breaking it down! Wish I had had a video like this when I started.
Would love to see more Cantonese videos and see your progression! Already amazed at the progress since the dim sum video
My mom is Chinese so her and her siblings grew up speaking the language but all the kids like myself never learned so it’s frustrating that I don’t know how but I find it so interesting and want to learn
Thank you for the encouragment! I started Mandarin 10 yrs back - daughter-in-law from China. Last year picked up Cantonese book in B&H store and book wouldn't let me put it back on shelf, so I began Cantonese in a vacuum. But it's fun so I'll keep up a little at a time.
Love your explanation. Thank you for making it clear
Lifelong Cantonese learner here :) This was a good basics overview view but definitely would like to request more Cantonese videos for the future!
For sure will do!
Thank you so much !! Your chinese is too rapid. I try to catch up with you~~you go too fast. Love you though. I am chinese- panamanian ! Keep up your good work !! 13:04 hough
Thanks! Had fun watching!
Thank you so much for making this video, its super helpful 😁
Great video, all very clear and well explained!
Omg, I remember watching your video a few years ago when I first started learning Cantonese, and now look at how far you’ve come! Even though I’ve been learning Cantonese for a while now, this video was still very fun to watch. I’m thinking of uploading a similar video to it on my CZcams channel ^^
Nice to see you here! I'm subscribed to your channel🤠
@@timurermolenko2013 thank you!
I think it's best to learn traditional if you want to learn more than just Mandarin, because it opens a path to learning Hanja, Kanji, Han Nom, and many other writing systems because all of those systems were developed from the same characters and then later simplified in their own ways which are often very clear and obvious. If you just learn simplified characters at first, you're basically choosing to only use it for Mandarin because it's often not very obvious what the characters were simplified from.
this is a great summary~ thanks!
You look really chill I subscribed thanks for the video
Wow really well-made video. I just began to learn Cantonese and your video is super useful! 多謝!
Your editing lol. This was clear cut and included info I had to chase around the internet to conclude, in one video.
Hi Adam,
I am a British long term (over forty years) citizen of Hong Kong, which I have long regarded as home. These days I speak "passable" Cantonese, rather than the somewhat higher standard I used to speak. Feeling somewhat guilty about this, I recently began upgrading my standard, in the course of which I found you and your website. You are easily the best Cantonese teacher I have ever come across (and I have had a few over the past decades). In short, you are a natural tutor, and a very all round on screen presenter. If you are not already in that medium, you should certainly think about it. Congratulations, and thank you for your time and skill.
Thank you very much, and while I am listening to you, I am recalling my Cantonese when I studied at the Chinese University of HK too.
Thanks Adam for sharing! I have found out that oe or eo is quite easy for me to pronounce since a lot of the Scandinavian countries use the letter "Ö" that is similar to oe or eo.
u explained most common questions for non-Chinese Cantonese learner! gd job Adam!
Ty for dividing up the video into sections, you king 👑
It’s interesting watching your video putting Cantonese in such systematic way. I love Cantonese more since I moved to Japan last year. Cantonese got its special vibe I. Expressing feeling 👍🏻thank you for loving Cantonese
This was super helpful, thank you!
Thanks for the video!
My grandfather was from Taishan & I've always wondered about learning cantonese.
Super interested in more videos about Cantonese, will check out more of your videos.
Brilliant video, very insightful. I've been learning Mandarin for 4 years and have started to consider learning cantonese
I admire anyone who tries to learn Cantonese. I often think its impossible especially if you're a foreigner. So very well done you have made it! Congratulations 👏 👏 👏
Great advice Adam! I prefer the Yale system but dont mind jyutping as well.
This is a good video for Chinese learners who are interested in Cantonese! Thanks dude!
Your video is exactly what I needed!! I want to surprise my boyfriend by speaking cantonese but I felt so lost trying to find content and ressources to learn. Your video is a great introduction to cantonese, thank you so much!
I remember watching your dim sum guide a long time ago to prep myself before I went to a restaurant. Now I've also been self-learning Cantonese for about two years as well! It's definitely a unique struggle lol 加油, man!
Hahaha that's awesome man! 你都加油啊！
Wait I stumbled upon your videos randomly but I also played the marimba for a super long time!! So just thought that was super cool hahaha
Ahhhh that's awesome! I'm glad you got to experience our wonderful instrument at some point haha
"Pitches are relative to each other and don't have to be exact" --> I wish I knew this before I was learning Canto as an English speaker. Makes so much more sense now. Also thanks for mentioning why Canto speakers need context for certain words. Many of my Canto speaker friends can't explain to my why they need context, you made it much more clearer now.
Please do more Cantonese videos!! I've been with my HK bf for over two years as well, and I'm amazed by your progress! Hopefully I can be as fluent one day (^^)
thank YOU for sharing this
Thank you so much for the lesson
Thanks Adam, much appreciated! Trying to learn Cantonese as a third language!
Awesome man, what are the other two?
@@iDreamDance 我係瑞典人! 我識講英文!
Very good explanation I would love to learn more
Native cantonese speaker, still learn something new from your video :)
Never really realize Passport and pepper sound similar!!!lol
Very interesting! you explain it well!!!!!!!
Great video - simple but the aesthetics are on point! Heritage wise what is your own dialect group, and do you speak it? (I'm going to guess Teochew simply based on your surname haha)
Good job!
Dammmm bro your video is pretty usefull for non-native cantonese speaker. My Cantonese is ok a decent 7 if i give myself a honest score. But for a native Canto speaker i really like your video and you explain it very well so keep going bro. I'm a HKer , i'm born in The Netherlands untill now and it's a relax country i must say compared to other asian country's
Hey thanks man, means a lot coming from a native speaker! Your 7 is probably a 10 to me haha!
@@iDreamDance Hahahaha nooo man i'm not lying my Canto is ok so yeahhh and that's why i give it myself as a 7 cause i still have a lot to learn in my opinion.
Excellent music; excellent presentation.
Awesome vid, Adam!
My journey through Cantonese mirrored yours quite a lot - similar resources, similar obstacles, similar realizations, similar starting times.
However, conversely, I started with Canto first, so Mando is more difficult one for me. There's still a lot of vocabulary I've yet to learn in either of the two, but Canto seems to flow much easier for me whereas I sound like a robot when speaking Mando 😂
Do you have any other Canto resources you'd recommend? I've followed the Cantolounge curriculum for quite a while but am really wanting some fresh material!
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你講得好好呀!! 💪🏻
Learning traditional is easier to transition to simplified. But it's not the other way around. There are lots of stroke combinations that has meaning which makes it easier to remember or even guess the meaning of a word in traditional. so much wisdom :)
Good video. Thanks.
I’m from Toronto, Canada which has a very large Chinese community/multiple Chinatowns and will say Cantonese is extremely common. While a lot of people do speak Mandarin, but when it comes to day to day business Cantonese is the most commonly found. I can go anywhere anywhere and people will switch from Mandarin or other Chinese dialect to Cantonese.
多謝你嘅解釋
Thank you !
Your Cantonese is great! Interesting observation that Mandarin has similar grammar to English
It’s so weird because I can comprehend and understand Cantonese fully but I can’t speak it smoothly and my mind goes blank mid sentence 🥲
That was me when I first started! You can watch my new video to help you speak it smoother hehe czcams.com/video/TxlT4UrI2tM/video.html
@@iDreamDance will do, thank you!! :)
i can converse, hesitantly, but have the deer in headlights look when the news on tv is presented in Cantonese
Part 3. is the craziest part
Thank you ahain 😊❤
Thank you again 💓 💖
My mom came to America from Hong Kong with her family, but my parents moved away from them before I was born and I never learned Cantonese. I really want to be able to finally speak with my family, so thank you for this informational video!
Nice job!!
Thank you! Love your channel name haha
Thank for your video this is interesting and really helpful too. coz I have a plan to work in hk so this is advantage to me to learn Cantonese language advance. 😁😍💖
Hi Adam, thank you for making this video. I'm from the southest country in America. For sone reason there was not cantonese speakers inmigration, we have people from mainland China, from Taiwan... I was learning Mandarin with a Tawanese Teacher for a while. I lost some of my motivation because I couldn't find a way to talk to them, I mean, in social termns. The communities are quite closed, at least here, I don't know how it is in other places.
Well, so I have no good reason for learning cantonese, except that I like it. I like how it sounds, i like the traditional way of writing hanzi, and I love Wong Kar Wai movies. I found it was not easy to find study material, I found some grammars and stuff, but nothing like, I don't know, the HSK programm of study, or the japanese JLPT international test (and all the literature that surrounds them). And yes, Yale sistem sucks, I don't get it.
If you know where to find people that speaks cantonese and want tho share an online talk, o resources to learn. That would be great.
And thak you again for your Cantonese videos; I really enjoyed them.
At 9:23 that d in the Cantonese pinyin way is SO heavily there for me, but you seemed surprised by it, so in turn I was surprised by your surprise lmao and anyway sounds are wild, language is so cool 🥹
the da bao video had me in stitches
new subscriber😻
Great summary, very helpful 😇 got a few months to speak some basic canto before meeting the bf's parents! 😅
Good luck!!! You're gonna be great :)))
Thank you😘
I'm having head burst 😂😂 only your cuteness I got😬🤣✌️
Thanks for the tips
Thanks for watching!
@@iDreamDance More on the language pls. I still remember the one u show us how to order dim sum in Cantonese, many years ago but still cool to watch.
Very impressed with the explanation and breakdown. Also glad that you are trying to teach and bring Cantonese to others.
funny thing is that in official academic exams here in hong kong, although everything is in traditional chinese, you're allowed to write simplified chinese but only if they're in a completed 詞語 (vocab?). so for example for "international" you can write either 國際化 or 国际化, but you get marks deducted if you put 國际 or 国際, bc both characters have to be in the same system
@@thegloriousmorious9755 The public exam allows it right?
Thank youuu
Kong tung wa. I like it. Thanks bro
thank you!
Very informative for a beginner learner like myself. Trying to learn Mandarin or Cantonese as a 3rd language.
What’s your second?
Nemo Cantonese is great, but I also recommend Anki. Various sets of flashcards there, with stroke order and example sentences!
Thanks 👍🙏
Thank you💚💚❤❤💚💚
omg your voice !!
Why you only have few? Your way of teaching is very helpful. Please upload more. :)
thank you so muchhhh
Hope it helps 🤗
Thanks for preserving cantonese!
it's been a pleasure for me to also preserve cantonese as a hong konger. 加油！
and also, cantonese is from Canton/Guangzhou , as suggest by the word itself.
Hi? This is the 1st video I watched about Cantonese !! Do you have videos where is teaches creat sentences! How to start and how to end! Plus which words to add where such as grammar !
Would loveto learn Cantonese too, as I am working here in HK. I think it's a must to learn the language..❤
Woah cool!! Do you have an in-depth video on how you learned Cantonese? Like textbooks or anything?
I just used apps like CantoneseClass101 and Nemo Cantonese :) I'm sure there's newer ones by now.... or rosetta stone etc. And I immersed myself by talking to native speakers too
Awesome, thanks for replying! I'll definitely use those
哈囉！我想補充下喺6:22度：關於Spoken Cantonese同埋Written Cantonese嘅區別。雖然喺書寫中粵語母語者好多時候會用Standard Chinese（國語）嚟寫字。但係粵語其實有自己嘅書寫系統，就係粵文，亦叫粵語白話文（Vernacular Written Cantonese）。呢個先係真正嘅Written Cantonese。我而家打出嚟嘅文就係粵文。
不過好多謝你嘅影片介紹粵語！
Hi from Singapore. I always listen to Cantonese in songs but I don't know how to speak it. Your videos are so educational!!:)
+ 8:25 WAS HILARIOUS HAHAHA