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- Get a full month of MUBI FOR FREE: mubi.com/thetake (With the support of Creative Europe - MEDIA Programme of the European Union) | Who was the real Princess Diana, according to The Crown? Season 4 of the series portrays the Princess of Wales as a powerful life force, a naive youth, and a natural mother -- but most fundamentally, as a victim of the cold, unloving royal family. Here’s our Take on how The Crown paints Diana: as the casualty of a ruthless institution that has repeatedly failed to respect human beings' most basic need -- to be loved.
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Princess D*ana pembunuh, LESBI, penghipnotis, penggiring dosa neraka, pemerkosa, perampok, penipu, bodoh, buta huruf masih dipuja", pemakan otak, perusak otak, pembunuh bayi, menciptakan negara mayat dan miskin, ada rakyat menyebutnya ratu iblis. 😂
Kalau Princess MALING mencuri Sumber Daya Alam (SDA) dan SDM dari kerajaan Islam, negara mayoritas Islam dan terdapat Raja Ratu Islam asli itu berarti DENDA, penjara dan HARUS BAYAR ke kami (Raja Ratu Islam asli, KERAJAAN ISLAM EROPA bukan kristen) . 😂😂
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Aku ELEANOR BUKAN PRINCESS DIANA. 😂 Diperbudak, disekap dan diambil harta dan pemikirannya.
You know a marriage is going to fail when being asked if the couple is in love, the groom replies "Whatever that means."
And at that moment we knew he was fucked
In his defence I think that's just the british sense of humor. You can see in het real footage that Diana is laughing about it as well.
@@danackroydsbutt The real footage showed her looking a bit shocked, then pulling herself together. She later mentioned in interviews that it was painful for her
@@danackroydsbutt People using "Humor" as an excuse, genius. Diana was pretty shocked in this moment and then tried to overplay it by laughing.
@@danackroydsbutt Needless to say he fat shamed her before that interview. That comment led to her bulimia during their marriage.
The next season of The Crown should just throw away all historical accuracy and be Diana’s Kill Bill style revenge plot in my opinion
Maybe for a parody haha
Best spin-off series ever
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To be fair he did turn the reality of once upon a time in Hollywood on it's head, I think I agree seeing this in Tarantino style would be epic
Okay how will each offender be done in and will it be hilarious?
Actually felt bad for Charles during the previous seasons because of how sad he was and the way he felt trapped in a toxic family (especially during his Wales speech) which was very relatable. However seeing the way he projected all that pent up hate and bitterness on to Diana this season pissed me off. Yes most of his behaviour can be explained by the neglected and tormented childhood he had but really goes to show that no matter how bad your life is/was that DOES NOT justify treating other people like shit!!
That's the thing with toxic families and organizations: you get destroyed, you get out, or you become part of the problem
So true...
Can't remember if this a line from The Crown or elsewhere, but what creates a monster? Other monsters.
Seconded, while it's perfectly understandable to feel trapped and coddled by your family, especially if they're constantly in the spotlight, and under public scrutiny, it DOESN'T excuse Charles' cavalier attitude towards Diana. He was rather emotionally abusive to her at times. Their 13 year age gap didn't really help either, with Diana being only 19 when they got married, compared to Charles' more experienced 32.
It was almost as if because he couldn't show his anger on his family he showed it on Diana because he thought that she was weaker.
Watching this I realize that of course Charles hated Diana's performances. He was himself denied to act in plays. You often hate what you have been denied.
Do you have a personal or general example?
Nah, she meant he couldn’t be with Camila. That’s why he hated her.
@@XanderShiller in the show you see that Charles wanted to study drama and acting at school before he was sent to Wales as well as them meeting over (in show) a mutual love of midsummer's night dream
"You often hate what you have been denied" I love what you said. Also should have been the motto for STOP ERA in Mrs America
I would say that he see a lot of himself in her when he was younger, because if you remember season 3 he loved performing and connecting to people I think that Diana reminds him the person who he wanted to be. Thar something that I keeped noticing every time they pointed how difrent they are from one another.
Princess Diana deserved so much better than what she was given. May she rest in peace.
I agree, Diana simply wanted to be loved, likely stemming from her parents' acrimonious divorce, but she just didn't know how to. Rest in peace, Diana. 😘
She knew exactly what she was getting into, and went ahead with it anyway.
I don't get why everyone thinks she's a sob story.
@@TiagoJRToledo people that understand naivety of youth, how terrible childhoods stunt development and warp perception, and how young adults can definitely fall victim to grooming feel that way. She was lured and killed for her efforts to self emancipate; not blaming anyone but just pointing out she was in fact in a tragic situation.
@@TiagoJRToledo She had a hard childhood. A mother who abandoned her and a cold aristocratic father. She wanted to be loved, she loved reading romance novels. So marry a charming prince sounded straight out of a fairy tale. I can see why a sheltered 19 year old would fall for that. You can't hold that against her.
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The fact that the Royals are trying so desperately to get Netflix to put the word "fiction" next to the title just so they can have deniability of how they treated Diana is absolutely appalling. What Diana described in her interviews was actually a lot WORSE than what they portrayed on the show.
it’s actually diana’s brother that wants the disclaimer, not the royal family
I like Diana but how do you know everything she said was true? She was very kind but also had a tendency to be dramatic (it’s widely thought she had BPD, which is characterised by erratic behaviour and they usually lack self-awareness also). I think she and Charles were just a terrible match.
@@melissam597 At the very least, there is a literal phone recording confirming Charles' affair during their marriage, in manner that was so incredibly blatant and disrespectful
That's not how BPD is characterised - erratic is a vague catch all term you can apply to every mental illness and personality disorder. People with BPD have severe issues with self image, relationships and disassociation, to name a few. That would be how one could begin to characterise it.
But BPD doesn't mean someone cant be kind and it doesn't change the public figure of Diana and what she did.
They aren’t the current Conservative government is and let’s face it the portrayal of the family it’s self is fairly sad and to an extent sympathetic but the portrayal of a lot of the conservatives prime ministers isn’t. They show their incompetence and contrast that with Howard Wilson who was a Labour PM who was actually shown to be a good man.
The actress who played Diana did such a terrific job
And then they picked christan Stewart
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I appreciate the research she did to play Diana
@@inmyelementblue7186 but Kristen is doing a movie called “Spencer” ,Elizabeth Debicki is the one who’s playing Diana in the 5th season of “the crown”
@@inmyelementblue7186 Who is Christan Stewart?
Princess Diana resonated with so many woman who also married young and had a picturesque idea of marriage only to be disappointed.
Hello
Disney's fault. Marriage is not always a fairytale. There are challenges just like in any other relationship - with parents or siblings or friends or co-workers, or bosses, or employees, or citizens or government and on and on. That's why there's divorce. Instead of being in an unhappy marriage and have affairs, it's better to get divorced and marry someone else. Vilifying marriage is like vilifying the car for the bad driver.
Ive read this is the reason of a lot of immigrant mothers in england loved diana. Women who had arranged marriage could relate to her being trapped and being surrounded by in laws who didnt care for her
@@thomas_hobbs1453 Divorce isn't a cure all. It involves children being hurt by their parents leaving, it doesn't stop fights over the kids and custody, and there are issues with step parents.. And it doesn't mean that you'll be happy second time around...A lot of second marriages break up...
Very true. I got married at age 20 & stayed married for 10yrs. It was rough. I was nowhere near mature enough to handle it.
It's shocking how tragic Diana's life really was. She was only 20 getting married, and woefully unprepared for the trials of being a princess. She and Charles scarcely knew each other, and maybe they'd both have been better off had they never gotten married at all. 😢💔
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She was 19!! And 16 when they met she never stood a chance
I understand your feelings. But think about it, without Diana and Charles they wouldn't have brought Harry and William into this world.
And he had all the life experience. They deliberately chose her because she could be molded. And they never had alone time until after their wedding.
I've watched quite a bit about her in recent months for some reason. There they were, asked in an interview if they were in love, and he replied 'whatever "in love" means.' I mean, WYYF? And then she overheard him talking to Camilla on the phone, and in general things were really clear to her. :( I mean, I had a bloke treat me badly at 19 so I can kind of imagine, though obviously it's not the same. :) Documentaries etc on her are really interesting to watch.
The Firm has been working YEARS to regain popularity after Diana's death and then suddenly The Crown shows what she's been through and Charles must close comments on his social medias lmao
No doubt, this will follow him to his grave and I honestly kind of sympathize with him for that a little bit.
I think Charles closes his comments because of the ludicrous amount of people who don't take everything in the Crown with a grain of salt and think Charles is actually the Devil incarnate...
@@danackroydsbutt for many people, he and his family are.
I’m honestly not sorry for him. I’m just, not. I feel they treated her horribly.
@@Jujudeze22 i agree with you 100%. they did treat her terribly and i have no sympathy for any of them, especially charles. i wish she had turned down his proposal like other women did.
My mother had the incredible honour of (briefly) meeting Princess Diana in 1985. Diana and Charles made a visit to Wythenshawe hospital (where my mum was working at the time) in Manchester, to meet victims of the British Airtours flight 28M fire. She even has a black and white photo of Diana speaking to herself and a group of colleagues who had been part of the front line response.
Apparently she came across as genuinely kind, caring and easy to talk to.
Even though Margaret speaking up and objecting to Charles and Diana's marriage was fabricated for drama's sake, I liked the notion of Margaret realising how wrong they were for each other. She didn't want them to end up miserable, as she had in her own failed marriage. 😢💔
I think that she, like Diana, knew the true cruelty of the system and did not want someone as young and as bright as Diana becoming involved.
I like how the series has made Margaret the Greek chorus, so too speak. I think it works really well
Love the part in her speech where she goes "how many times can this family make the same mistake" she sounded so defeated.
Honestly, Princess Margaret is one of my favorite characters on the show. She so rebellious and is the most chilliest Royal Family member ever and very brutally honest. And coincidentally, my name is Margareth too..
@@margarethmichelina5146 She wasn't rebellious at all. She could have given up he place in the succession to marry Peter Townsend but she wouldn't do that. And I doubt if she had much sympathy with Diana. She was barely on speaking terms with her when they were neighbours at KP
The first scene when Charles met Diana reminds me of the movie "Romeo and Juliet" in the aquarium scene when they met for the first time
Yes, it gave me major "Romeo and Juliet" vibes, because of how quirky and whimsical it was! 😂
Too bad that didn’t happen lol
I got that vibe too. It was the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene. Personally, I didn’t really like it. I thought it was a little to whimsical and perfect and unrealistic for a show that tries to root itself in historical accuracy (I know the show isn’t even close to being 100 percent historically accurate, but still.). This was the first scene in a long time where I was like “yeah, this is clearly manufactured. This feels very TV-esque.”
I thought the same thing..plus Claire Danes said she hated working with Leo
Charles & Diana is modern day Shakespearean tragedy
Her childhood was fraught with a controlling grandmother who barred her mother from seeing her kids. So her need to be loved was what drove her to thinking the royal family might just provide that; she couldn't be more wrong!
I blame her grandma
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@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Yep She had no right to separate a mother from her children
I'm not taking sides but if I'm not wrong, the grandma forbade the mother from seeing her kids because she cheated on her husband (Diana's father) with someone else, and the grandma was afraid that that would taint the family name because they were well known aristocrats
@@taniamanik2012 True, but I feel if her daughter's old ass husband was the one doing the cheating while daughter was popping out babies for his male heir, she wouldn't have batted an eye
This is true for so many women who get married in India, without the money and the fancy palaces.
Not just in India probably. All around the globe.
@@shramanadasdutta3006 probably why so many women related to her struggles so much.
Actually it is the same in middle east where i live (Iran)
Thats so awful nobody deserves to be treat so badly. What can people do to help?
The ironic thing is that at one point when I lived in India there was this one family that I stayed with for a month that were big fans of Diana. I do get that, but the attitude they had was that marrying into the royal family was the most wonderful thing that could have happened to her. No exaggeration, it was as if living in a flat with her friends in London and working at a school was something that Charles came and rescued her from. I'm single and a teacher, so the context, umprompted, was to tell me not to worry because she was proof that my life could also change for the better. I knew they meant well and I didn't want to get into an argument, so I didn't say anything back other than I'm already perfectly happy with my life the way it is, which they laughed off. And this wasn't the early 80's when they were telling me this, it was 2017. I don't get it.
"You barely find it in yourselves to hug your own."
Iconic.
Nonsense. Charles did hug the children, he just wasn't seen doing it as much in public as Di was
Emma Corrin did such a FANTASTIC job as Diana!
Truly impressive. The way she moves her head, the body language, I was truly shocked.
Fingers crossed that we can see a Take on The Crown’s portrayal of Thatcher.
A combo with Mrs America Phyllis Schlafly
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Phyllis is very overrated.she didn't have the kind of influence they showed in the series
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Oh hell yeah!
I hate the portray of Tatcher in The Crown, like she was the hero of the people, were she caused a great amount of deaths in the Belfast riots, and even the riots in London, when Thatcher closed the Unions, and try to privatise the railway, she was no hero, she was a Neo-Liberal shit head, so unpopular, that her own party take her down.
Fun fact: the actress who played ‘Camilla’ directed ‘promising young woman’ with Carey Mulligan
I know! Finding that out was crazy
She was on Call The midwife for 3 seasons too. Camilla in season 5, Olivia Willaims, I remember best from Emma and as the bridesmaid Joey slept with in the London Friends episode. (Mid 90's) Ten years later she was Jane Austen in Miss Austen Regrets. I am amazed how much they made Olivia look like Emerald. You can almost believe it is the same woman who has aged 10 years.
Poor Dianna, they threw her into an ocean infested with sharks, humiliated her, and pretended it was a wading pool. Not that she wasn’t capable of being smart and calculating” but ultimately was a victim.
"It Reminds Me Of My Mother’s Engagement Ring. And It’s The Same Color As My Eyes."
Princess Diana
I love that Diana quote. She really deserved SO much better in life. Rest in peace, Diana. 😔💖
@@trinaqI think so too.
So innocent yet romantic!
So sweet and innocent a comment.. My ring would be emerald then that would be different lol
May I be the worst person in the world and tell you that this quote was made up? The whole scene actually. Charles picked the ring, not Diana
That feud between the dutiful royals and the rebellious/romantic royals goes all through the entire history of this family, all the way back to George III's feud with his own son.
Then in Victoria vs. her son Edward.
Then in Edward VIII and Wallis vs. George VI and everyone else.
And all the way up to William vs. Harry. The 'good' child vs. the 'wild' child is a narrative everyone seizes on.
It's the nature of the beast - the beast being The Monarchy. The best kind of Monarchies are those which didn't impose personality on them.
@@LilithPl3asant Notable exception to that logic, the current Queen's father?
But isn't it truly tragic that certain people get their emotional wants/needs despite duty
Elizabeth vs Margret
Edward VIII vs Charles vs George
Henry VII vs everyone else lmao
Victoria vs her son edward.
It's a hypocritical system at best, if you are the heir you have the upper hand in doing what ever you like as long as you get the right people involved.
Well there was a big deal placed on having more than one child for monarchs in the past because children died more often. You had to have two, the heir and the spare, in case one died. Now that things have changed that mentality still hasn’t. Harry and Meghan are disposable because they will never be monarchs. They don’t have value.
“Handsome prince” girl please.
I was nine when Princess Diana died. I remember watching the news of the crash unfold on live TV. When it was announced that she'd died, my mom burst into tears. She explained to me what a wonderfully kind, outreaching person Diana was and how she used her position as a princess for what it should be used for: To help people. I felt sad, but distantly so. It wasn't until years later when I realized just how much Diana was victimized and screwed over by the royal family, not to mention how sketchy her death was and how quickly they declared it an accident, that my heart truly broke for her. It's tragic that she had so much to give, died so young, and was conned into a family who saw her only as something to add to their collection. RIP, Princess Diana.
My mother cried also when Princess Diana died. I was six years old at the time of her death. Like you, I only learned years later how much Diana has been victimized and done wrong by the royal family. She deserved better.
Diana's death was investigated very thorougly, iwht a long and detailed inquest. It wasn't quickly declared an accident at all.
@@glen7318 Oh. Thanks for the information.
i would love to see other studies on the crown like princess margret and princess ann it would be lovely highlighting what it is like to be someone of no importance
Yes especially Anne with how she is ignored by her Mom, hated by the press, has the temerity to get her sex, and is ultimately a victim of her family's misogyny.
I find Anne to be an interesting character as well. The queen was able to relate to her children when they grew up she didn't have a love for babies and children that's obvious.
You know there are biographies out there. If you're really interested, start reading.
@@margaretalbrecht4650 I already did thank u
What I wanted was different POVs for a school paper on how media shows celebrities and I chose princess Diana because of how iconic she still is
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 Ignored??? ANne is very frequently at engagements with the queen these days, and they are clealry good friends.
Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer were both damaged individuals in an environment where emotional repression is the order of the day. But we know how it affected both of them individually.
One of the very few sensitive comments I've been reading on the internet about this story.
@@gianmarcorusso1713 Thank you.
How your damage affects your ability to treat others, especially the people you love is a key. In some way or another we all are damaged, these two individuals are not special. Yet if you refuse to comprehend your behaviour and bring innocent people in to your weird tangled web of lies/affairs it does not help your image or your victim argument, damage or not.
watching this now after meghan's interview is something else. its interesting how their situations seem like the mirror of each other. diana received love from the public, but not her husband. meghan is loved by her husband, but not the press.
I watched a historian's analysis of the interview where it was stated that they actually inserted parallels into the interview. Like, Meghan wearing a bracelet that was owned by Diana and wearing a dress similar to Wallis' in a similar interview. Interesting how they themselves seemingly wanted to point that out.
I absolutely agree with you and concerning your last sentence - it's just a shame and I don't get it. She seems quite cool.
Times have changed. Years ago a new royal bride usually got a year or 2 off being very much admired. now the press in many countries is pretty harsh to new royal girlfriends and brides. They get a baptism of fire. Diana was popular.. Meghan and kate both got rough rides. Kate has quietly stuck it out and got on with her married life.. Megh has left
@@glen7318 When was Kate’s ride ever rough? She was immediately beloved unquestionably.
@@maggiekarabel123 Before they were engaged and just dating, she was deemed too middle class. At some point William even asked the paparazzi to leave her alone and a lot of legal action was threatened. The British press is sexist and I don't think just because Kate sucked it up until she was deemed a 'good woman/wife/mother', that that makes her the better woman/Meghan should've followed into her footsteps
@@he1802 The way she was treated was downright kind compared to Meghan. Did he really release a statement? The double standard is crazy, Harry got labeled “Meghan’s bitch” for doing the same damn thing.
I wanted to reach in through my phone and slap Charles for his Ingratitude of Diana's performance for him.
Yeah not even "Yeah! Check out my wife! Look how good she dances and looks! Kiss my fanny! "
This is so silly. The point of that scene was to show how they just did not understand each other at all. As nice as it was that she did that for him, it was not something he would ever have wanted, and it also bought out his raging jealousy that she was so loved, and no one had ever really cared about Charles. To charles it was like having to be grateful when your cat brings you a dead mouse
It was a nice gesture but it's really the equivalent of those public proposals. If your partner is a very private person, public displays of affection like those are only going to bring embarassement and even resentment for being put in such a situation by someone you trust.
It was a sign of how they didn't understand eachoder or even had the same love language.
Although I felt very sorry about Diana and I think Charles behaved disgustingly towards her, Diana's performances were definitly over the line.
@@Jane155-x6d Well I dont know exactly waht the real performance was lke but in this version IMO it makes Diana look foolish.. It was menat to be HIS birthday present.. and instead of getting him a gold tie pin, she does a dance that makes HER the focus of attention.
I really feel grossed out by how the Royal Family still markets on Diana (I saw Funko pop figures of the Royal Family with a Diana funko. She can’t even escape them in death) it’s really disturbing. They treated her like garbage. I can never ignore it.
Trust me when I say those Funko pop were not licensed by the Royal family. For a start they don’t own her image.
Seconded, poor Diana was isolated by her in laws, and couldn't really confide in anyone about her crumbling marriage. When she tries to tell Philip, she's basically told to suck it up, and that she should be worshipping not Charles, but the Queen herself. Even in death, she's still a tragic figure, never able to escape the oppressive shadow of her former in laws. 😢💔
And even some people still blame her.
The Royal Family does not license use of their likeness on toys.
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I genuinely believe Diana would have supported Megan, and be proud of her for for escaping that palace with Harry.
@M M grifter? Honey you wish you had a trajectory like hers, UN, 300,000 an episode earnings, more charities, and a successful lifestyle blog.
@M M I loved the Tig, it's not my fault you're uncultured.
@M M Diana would also be about to be turning 60. You certainly can't say she would be exactly the same at 60 as she was at 37.
She said her children belong to the Monarchy?-Not a surprise. That is the culture she grew up in. The peerage has the Monarchy right at the center of itself.
After witnessing what she went through herself and what her sons have grown up in, well, I doubt her feelings would be all that warm and fuzzy. That, and a new generation is ambivalent about having a Royal Family at all. (Oh, and did I mention she might be living a completely different life if only there was no car crash? She very well could have married again, become a humanitarian, shacked up with some billionaire without a wedding ring at all, etc.)
Diana had a situation in which her own kids, legally speaking, BELONGED TO THEIR GRANDMOTHER. A law dating back to George II said she did not have custody of her own kids. Lesser known is that she badly wanted to flee with her sons somewhere like Australia where the law does not apply. Gee, I wonder why Meghan got on a plane like a bat out of hell with her baby and left Harry behind to negotiate?
PS-Grifters who are worth over a million dollars don't need the money or fame of the Crown. She had a charmed life before Harry. And marrying into the Windsor family is clearly no prize.
@@cacovie Megan is a narcissistic period. Don't even link Diana with her
AGREED. She would absolutely be supportive of helping someone get the hell out of dodge like Harry and Meghan did. Shame on the british press for continually proving their decision a correct one.
Hearing about her life at a young age made me believe the role of a princess according to those Barbie princess movies and in Princess Diaries 2 - someone cares for the people and a role model who views their status as a responsibility and not a right/privilege. It's only now that I realized, she was the only one I've heard of that truly represented that. I think it WAS because of her treatment as an outsider that made her understand her responsibilities and that she can do things beyond what the crown has done or is limited in doing because of rules/tradition
Diana is another name for the Goddess Artemis, who rides a Stag and is the Goddess of the Moon. The Moon rules the sign of Cancer, which is Princess Diana's sign & the sign of the Mother 💖
She was truly a Divine being 🕊
I honestly think it's insulting to her memory when people make her out to be some sort of saint/angel - she was a human being, with many flaws, and that is part of her ongoing legacy.
This is cute 🥰
@@TheMoonunit96 Goddesses aren't saints either, they're not the same as angels and aren't all good. The resemblance between Goddess Artemis/Diana and princess Diana are pretty insane, that's all and something i've always thought about myself. But it's just an observation...
@@TheMoonunit96 Because to many people across the world she was very much like a goddess/god sent. She helped people without power or voice (which even royals like philip and Anne) could never do. Also, goddess in pagan thoughts are not perfect nor saintly nor angelic. The greek goddess herself, whom Dian is named after, is thought to be flawed in nature, but she was a protector of species and hunt which is why people revererd her, not because she was perfect that is a christian thinking not a greek god/pagan understanding
Diana was the Goodess of hunting
Funnily enough, Kate Middleton is also an outsider in that she's not from any great dynasty. She's from a very well off family, but not an aristocratic one. Meghan Markle is much more of an outsider in several ways that make her more notable
yeah but Kate fell into line from the very beginning. she has no desire to rock the boat, her nick name was Waity Katey because all she did was wait around to get married with no career ambitions or job prospects. she worked at her parents party decoration company. zero character or individual aspirations to do anything with herself other than marry into the firm.
@@tigresscancook9476 That's not a fair criticism. You could argue the same about Diana. She had virtually no education and lived in a flat financed by her father while she babysat. Kate has an advanced degree and was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to fully grasp what she was getting into before the marriage. Two great women, no need to tear one down.
@@kelseyhawkins3385 thank you for not promoting the idea of tearing each other down. One type of person doesn't have to be better than the other. Kate got into the royal family at an age much older than Diana, knew William long enough and knew how to make her way through the rules of the royal family. Just because she didn't break rules or be unique doesn't make her any less of a remarkable woman.
YES, THANK YOU!!! I keep wondering why people seem to forget about the Cambridges and most of the other family (ignoring Prince Andrew). I think the York princesses have turned out wonderfully and I'm also pleased with the Wessexes. The family has changed a lot in the past 40 years or so and I think it is sad that people won't appreciate the good things that have happened. Squeaky wheel gets the publicity--I mean grease!
@@kelseyhawkins3385 Thank you as well! I can't believe the things the sugars say trying to criticize the Duchess of Cambridge. Their arguments just show their ignorance on . . . well basically everything.
The dead stag scene reminded me of that GOT scene where Charles dance skins a stag and it symbolizes Robert Barrathion
Meghan unlike Diana has a huge privelege - a loving and protecting husband
Yes their is no comparison between her and Diana
@Heather and @ViaNikel enough comparing women. Putting one over the other. It's a disgusting behaviour that you really should attend to.
True, but then what of the flagrant racism that she faced? Im not gonna compare both of them but Diana had the love of the public and the hatred of her husband and Meghan has the hatred of the public and love of her husband. Both have incredibly negative consequences
@@melanino Since Meghan's left the RF, I can't see that it matters if the British press still dislike her...What does she care? She has a rich doting husband, a manision in LA...
You can say same for Diana living in wealthy family and being connected to the royals. Both suffer due to media. The media been after Meghan since it was announced she with Harry. People tried insult her and say she only marrying him for his money and to be Queen. Which both insults doesn't make sense. Meghan has her own money from her own career, and she will never be Queen due to William and his kids being next in line for the throne. The media criticize tons of things about Meghan that made her uncomfortable, same goes for Diana.
"Her expression signals that she won't just accept how this game is played."
Harry: "I'm not going to be bullied into playing the same game that killed my mum." (8/2/2021)
The great irony of the Charles/Diana/Camilla is that Elizabeth was also in love with a man that her family and the institutions of the royals did not want her to marry. Yet she stuck to her guns, slowly wore them down and married the man she wanted. And regardless what you think of them as individuals or as a couple, it lasted. And the marriages of these two women are the beginnings of their stories in the Crown. So it's interesting to note the parallels.
I only watched this season for Margaret Thatcher's, but Diana's story was surprisingly shocking. Of course, I agree that this series should not be taken as a documentary, but if this is even half true, the royal family is terrible.
P.S.Why are all the princes and princesses so stooped in the show?
not everything in the show is fact but the majority of it is. the unfavorable opinion that many have about them is their own fault. no sympathy here.
Same!! I remember when the crown first came out and i finished the first season i thought "i hope they make future episodes with Elizabeth and thatcher...that will be epic!" And when i saw the trailer i was fangirling soo hard!!
I'm still mindblown that I never knew until recently just how young she was when charles started courting her. Just so sad.
"Diana's freedom - and the freedom of those who came afterwards will come at an excruciating high price"
Well..that hit hard now
Sad but true but because of Diana Kate and Meghan were able to marry her son's because had she not died young and everything went down the way it with went down with her and Charles William and Henry would have had organized weddings arranged marriages I mean to say and their wives would have had to be a virgin aristocratic and everything else but because of their mother they didn't have to succumb to that and Kate was able to be not a version of a commoner and Megan was able to be a divorced woman 37 years old American actress who is biracial and I do believe Wallis Simpson actually help Megan as well because her and Diana being women that have to suffer simply because of their life choices and what they were born into help the new generation. This Saturday Anna had to die for all this to happen and now Prince Charles able to live his best life with Camilla and I just hate to see Diana not in pictures with her grandchildren and Camila and her place it's really unfortunate but she will always be a part of the wrong family I mean her son will be king and her blood lives on forever is through his children and her sons. That's one thing I guess Camila can I take away from Diana but it's a sad thing you know she wasn't able to find the love she wanted she was sacrificed and never got her happy ending but everybody else gets too but I can only pray that her soul is at peace wherever she is
Totally! Also so crazy that the money Meghan and Harry relied on was his mother's who had been concerned something like that would happen.
@@koboldmaki6014 so strange that Harry's annoyed that his father wouldnt' go on paying for his security..
My favorite Diana moment in Season 4 is her driving and singing along with William and Harry.
After the interview with Meghan and Harry, the parallels between them an Diana are even more obvious. It really is a shame that the monarchy doesn't seem to learn from past mistakes.
I disagree. Meghan and Harry are not at all like Diana and Charles as people. Diana was a kind, empathic, sensitive person; Meghan is a manipulative, malignant narcissist who expected to be the movie star of the royal family and was disappointed to find out that being a royal is simply a job. She is angry and vengeful that she was not given everything she had demanded, and she's clearly enjoying causing them pain and public humiliation and flexing her power over one of the most powerful institutions in the world.
I think the royal family DID learn from Diana. We can see this in how hard they tried to please Meghan. For example, they gave her the huge, glamorous public wedding she expected, though normally this would not have happened for the second son and his fiancee. They tried to accommodate her personal style, her way of doing things, her absolute disregard for customs, rules and traditions. They gave her a LOT of money, fine clothes, luxurious gifts. Nothing was enough.
Harry is not like Charles, either. Charles suffered legitimate damage from his cold, distant, lonely childhood. Charles was also forced to break off his longstanding relationship with the love of his life and marry a woman who, though beautiful and charming, was a poor match for him and did not make him happy. His misery and admittedly lousy behavior is at least understandable. Harry, on the other hand, is a mentally ill problem child who has caused the family a lot of worry over the years with his juvenile antics. Again and again they have had to literally clean up his messes and protect him from consequences. Meanwhile Meghan feeds on his resentment of his father and jealousy of his brother.
@@denverdubois5835 pls shut up
It's because meghan wants you to think that way, she's actually quite narcissistic and wants to be compared to her
I've not watched the show yet but I can't get over how much the actress looks and sounds like Diana ❤
She did a phenomenal job of it. I highly recommend watching. Best to watch all seasons so that you're immersed in the language and culture of the family, which makes it easier to digest what's happening and why in season 4.
Diana named after the Goddess of Hunting but eventually became the most hunted person.
The series didn't make her out to be faultless though. They touched on that she got caught up in the media and her success then complained when she discovered she wasn't in charge. Philip, who she got on with very well, reminded her where her income came from. And that she was uneducated and naive and cheated on her husband.
But I think it's a generational thing- plus they were much kinder to the queen as a devoted mother in previous seasons. But they need a contrast. Elizabeth grew up when arranged marriages still existed. She also saw a woman cause the monarch to abdicate.
Yes, she never forgot what happened to her uncle--and she resented him for it, too, because it made her shy, gentle father have to take on the burden of public life and kingship in Edward's stead. The stress really shortened his life, sadly. Note the film, "The King's Speech" which is about Elizabeth's father's struggle to overcome his speech impediment so he could address the people of England as their king without being a laughingstock.
Every time I'm reminded how badly Diana was treated in life, I am more and more pissed off at how Meghan Markle is being treated now. It's a repeat, only now the media is on the Royal family's side.
Yeah, you can only be glad for Meghan to have found a supportive partner in Harry who does not play by these ancient (and in this case, f*ing racist) rules and tries to get out of there with her.
I'm sure she dealt with some similar experiences. Everyone who has married into the Royal Family has by them and the media. However, after watching her interview with Oprah, and how so many of her claims were easily debunked, I lost my trust in her.
The masses/people never want to be wrong. They’d rather wait for a victim than humanize a literal human being while it’s not too late.
You can’t compare Diana’s experience with Harry’s wife two totally different situations
@@heatherbrand2476 they’ve both been treated like shit by the British media, I fail to see what details could possibly make shit that different to warrant such a response.
Amazing performances from Emma Corrin and Josh O´Connor.
"I have seen 3 great monarchies brought down by their failure to separate personal indulgence from duty" - Queen Mary, The Crown, Seanson 1 episode 2. With this phrase, Queen Mary sets the theme for the entire series arc. In the 3rd and 4th seasons, Charles fails this responsibility, and it foreshadows his failure as a monarch in the future.
I don't understand why people expect the show to be exactly true to history. I mean it's not a documentary, it's a dramatization of historical events which means they would (obviously) create narrative structures with motifs and symbolism to get the point across. At the end of the day, the message is clear. Maybe the details are not exactly like history but the point stands that everyone thought of Diana as the victim of the royal family before and the show just visualizes that with its story again now.
I was a young girl when Diana became a Princess. The first time I legitimately watched the news as a kid was when she was doing her humanitarian work. As I watched her on TV, I thought she was the most wonderful person in the world. She was doing so much for other people, especially young children of all races/backgrounds. She was a real princess and what it meant to be a royal who cared about her people. I thought she was the best princess to have ever lived. I was so sad when she died (for her and for her sons), but I was also mad. I was mad that the Royal Family pushed her so much that she had to experience all that hardship. To this day, I'm sadden by her passing and her turmoil. She as a natural mother (Cancers are the Mothers of the Zodiac), an empathetic humanitarian and a brilliant soul.
This might be a little controversial but the crown really gave me more insight. As put off as I am by Prince Charles, the show did make me sympathise with him just a little bit
agreed! back when the queen tells him no one wants to know his feelings, i really felt sympathetic for him. it doesn't justify his treatment towards diana, but it does allow you to understand him better.
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The thing is, Diana and Charles aren't compatible. No matter how much Charles wants, he can't ever grow to love her in the face of their not getting along. He shouldn't have projected it on Diana, that's cruel. But really, he wanted a divorce and a way to release them both, he couldn't. What he did was wrong, but it was human. Charles was the meanest bitch to Diana when their second son was born and I'll never forgive him for that. But we have to remember that Charles was also a victim of the system. But since he was older, he should've handled it better.
It's a made up story with characters named after real people. Don't let it inform your views on the real world.
@@kanejtrash5019 right ?? And when they put him in that awful school. And yeah his treatment to Diana was horrible and nothing really ever can justify it but at the same time it’s a nice reminder that he isn’t just the villain
She never had a chance, poor thing
My mom and I had both watched this season together and my mom just watched this constantly shaking her head. “That poor thing, she’s too young.” she said, “There was so much left for her to do”. Diana was 20 when she got married to Charles, she should have been off with her friends enjoying the freedoms that she would later be denied when she married into the family. I’m not gonna lie and say I can’t see Charles’ side of the story, being bullied his whole life by his schoolmates, his family, and ultimately the public, but being hurt doesn’t give you the right to hurt others.
Diana did not want to be off enjoying freedom with her firends. She wanted to be married and to marry Clharles. She was upset at Christmas that he had not proposed though later she would say that she'd only been out iwht him 13 times in all.. so she was hoping to marry a man that she had only had about 10 dates with, at the Christmas before they got engaged
The point is not that she was young, it's that he didn't love her. Had he married her for love, everything would have been different. Had she been 32 and he not in love, the outcome would have been just as bad.
@@dammar117 I would hope that if she were 32 and he was not in love, she'd have the sensse not to marry him, or if she did marry him, she would make the best of it.
@@glen7318 You can be delusional or succumb to pressure at 32. And you may not wish to "make the best" of a crappy deceitful situation at 32.
@@dammar117 ?
The writing in the series was brilliant, and even if it was dramatised at times, it was based on facts. Where there's smoke, there's fire. The way the royal family reacted to this season and not the others says all we need to know. Meghan and Harry did the right thing, I applaud them for it.
For any future videos, I'd love to hear your Take on why are women often portrayed as journalists in film? I'd be curious to know. :)
The right thing? Not really. They are exploiting the events of the past to justify their own narcissism, greed and petty vengefulness. Meghan was treated far better than Diana ever was, but chooses to portray herself as a victim like Diana although she is not in that position at all, and never was. She joined the royal family not as a naive, virginal teen girl, but rather as a grown woman of independent means and a successful career, and she is engineering her current image and this whole saga to enact revenge on the royal family--with considerable success. Harry has always been a burden; the royals have been cleaning up his messes and protecting him from consequences for decades. Now, he's simply gone from one support system to another, more dysfunctional one. I believe that at some point he did discover within himself a desire to undertake independent charity work and activism in Africa. He never seemed happier than he did a few years back when he was helping the plight of endangered elephants, working with Jane Goodall and other preservationists. But then, unfortunately, he met Meghan.
@@denverdubois5835 thank you for a clear eyed summarization! Reading these comments I’ve found myself what in the world everyone is looking at compared to what I’m seeing.
Poor Diana what she went trough and how she was ignored by her husband broke my heart.
One thing I love about the stag episode is that you initially believe it is Thatcher represents the stag, but halfway through the episode the whole story flips, and Thatcher leaves Scotland and Diana comes in
Diana suffered because Charles couldn't grow a pair... now she's gone and he lives his best live with the mistress :)) good people always lose against our world
At least he is not the king, and it seems he never will be.
@@tiarezavaleta8850 if he where to be the king I would say hell be like Henry the 8th 2.0 but make it half of Henry the 8th I'll say
Facts
Camilla is his WIFE not his mistress, 😉and it’s sad but not surprising that you, a woman, are so hostile towards a person who ALSO suffered a great deal. Who was literally forced to marry someone he did not love, and even worse he was in love with someone else. Madly in love. They were in love BEFORE Diana came into the picture and after, it shows that you’re immature and refused to acknowledge basic facts. Diana was 19 years old when they got engaged. He was in his early 30s, why would you think a man would want to marry a 19-year-old girl he was forced to. Get OVER it and keep that same energy if the roles were reversed and Diana was forced to marry someone she did not love. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@brittanyserrano3619 I get what you're saying and I feel like everybody is a victim any situation but Rihanna's Diana suffer the most not only did Diana suffer Charles's children suffer because they will never have their mother ever again she's deceased and now his sons are fighting and it cause psychological damage to his children and now his grandchildren will never know their grandmother Diana. At the end of the day Charles a thirty-year-old man you got that right he should have backed out of it I feel like it how do you let Diana know when they first got married in the beginning I really don't love you she might not have been as vengeful as she got towards the ending of their marriage and went on Panama and did what she did had he told her it's the fact that he drug her long and I do feel like in a way down and knew that he didn't love her but in a way she felt like I look better than Camilla how can he not love me and I understand that. I feel like in the whole premise Diana die really young and she never got to find a person that actually loved her and she was like sacrifice so Charles and Camilla could have their love and I think it's a good thing that they're love lasted but in the day he had children with Diana is his legacy and so forth and that's just the way it is Camilla didn't get the Builder Legacy with Charles far as having children with him and grandchildren and so forth at the end of the day Diana one some things Camila lost something is like being able to marry Charles when they wanted to be married been able to have children with him she didn't get to have that you know so in a way Diana got her points because you always be remembered as the mother of the Future King of England but at the end of the day everybody suffer that's how I look at the situation is really hard to blame either party I don't really blame Diana and I don't really blame Charles Camilla I really blame the queen and yes I say that because when people didn't want her to marry her husband Philip she married him because she really loved him I don't see her marrying a man that she didn't love she loved Philip and she fought for him she fell in love with him when she was like 13 years old and she didn't marry a man the people forced her to marry she married a man that she wanted to marry and I feel like the queen did that with her sister Margaret with everybody involved she wanted them to be an unhappy relationship to make the image of the Ross family look good but she got to be with the man she wanted to be with which is unfair
Emma Corrin nailed her character, the golden globe awards that she's received is so well-deserved.
Unpopular opinion : in the very beginning of it, Charles was as innocent as he could have been. It was the institution that demanded of him to leave the love of his life. It was the Royal Family which royally screwed everything up. He was asked to pick a Queen and not a wife. So he picked a Queen for them and a wife for himself. Camilla was his everything. They loved each other. And Camilla was innocent too. In a parallel universe this is a love story of two forbidden lovers - Charles and Camilla, Dina was an unaware victim and the Royals the villian. What happened to Dina was heart reaching and Charles became too adement to not accept his unfortunate fate so he really did some stupid wrong stuff to Di. But at the beginning, it wasnt Charles's fault.
And in the end he married the love of his life. Di was very Young but she wanted to be a princess as well. There was certainly the pressure of the situation and how can you say no to a prince but I always thought that Charles was thinking Di knew what she signed up for, when in fact she was made to believe by everyone that it was a great love story.
@@MsPandachen as per the show Di's grandmother wasn't no help either
Charles can marry camilla since the beginning but if he doing so, he will be banished like his uncle, David. Charles wants to be a king too. So he marry Diana. If this is pure love, Charles can step aside, marry Camilla and let Anne take the next in line throne.
THANK YOU!!! I need to leave the comments with a hope that there are still sensible people out there who understand nuance and layers.
Always thought the same.
Diana: **hugs a sick child**
Charles: HOW DARE YOU EMBARASS ME AND HURT THE WOMAN I AM CHEATING ON YOU WITH
RIP Princess Diana!!!
Can you guys do a video tackling the issues of ageism via the show "Younger"?
I dropped everything upon reading the notification for this
Also the actress that is playing princess Diana she could also play a Young Jodie Foster too she's really great
Lady Colin Campbell has written 2 very serious and fascinating books about Diana. Diana was SO much more interesting and multidimensional.
It’s amazing cause the stag is used to represent Diana in Greek metrology and there’s 3 faces. The underworld, the moon and huntress
I felt really bad for both Charles and Diana because it was so apparent they were totally incompatible people. He didn't appreciate her at all and she didn't understand him one bit..
I have no sympathy for a man who manipulates a young woman in to marriage, refuses to get over his ex and stop seeing her, and mentally/emotionally drains his young wife while keeping her as a caged bird while he goes off to his country estate everyday to sleep with his side piece.
@@kanamenoname210 how was Diana kept as a caged bird? She had her own friends, she had her own life and lovers and Charles turned a blind eye to them. He would rather have had a divorce, I think but he accepted that at the time of hte later 80s it wansn't possilbe and he let Diana lead her own life....
The actress who played the role of Princess Diana has a uncanny resemblance to our People's Princess and is remarkable . Its a shame the Crown didn't win the award, but I do like the actress who played the Queen too . I remember her in the sitcom comedy "Green Wing".
I think something that is really telling about Princess Diana and how much she defines the royal family, is the amount of importance she still has today, even more than the queen. As a Gen Z kid, the first royal I ever heard about was Princess Diana, not the queen of England.
Same here! Growing up, I've always associated the word 'royal family' with Princess Diana for some reason, more so than the queen herself. Very telling, imo
The suffering of Diana, Charles and even Camilla comes from Queen Elizabeth's, and by extension, the Crown's obsession with self-image. And ironically, the way they treated Diana to preserve their "image", culminated in the undoing of it. Conspiracy theory or not, the court of public opinion holds the Royal Family responsible for the death of someone they actually adored for a change. It warms my heart knowing that there is no worse punishment for them
than to forever be second in line to Diana when it comes to popularity, even in death. I hope their vanity is strangling them.
No they dont.
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It is easier, requires less research and work than most of their other work.
Just came from Filmento's Man of Steel
Haha I follow those three as well.
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I always felt so much for Diana, but I felt this season of the crown fabricated History, even the creator said that the events are inspired by his feelings, not reality. It's dangerous to make implications about the real royal family based off of a television show
Agreed. I know I don't know everything and I think I assume others know more than me, but then I realise they know a little and think they know a lot. It all seems very shallow. They hear snippets about Princess Diana having been treated badly and then they watch a fictionalized version of it and assume that is everything. I did like that in this analysis they pointed out she wasn't perfect (and in the show she wasn't perfect).
I do have to say that I am sick of this parroting of the Markle narrative. At this point I think if someone still believes it, there is a red flag to take what they say with a grain of salt. Honestly, I have a hard time taking whatever they say seriously if they are going to argue that point.
Would you maybe be willing to do an episode about the changing perception of therapists/mental health treatment? I saw for example in Brooklyn 99, Jake's attitude towards therapy (particularly in season 6 episode The Therapist) could be taken as a mirror for societal attitudes towards therapy: you've got the transition from "creepy shrink" to "normal part of life." There's also Good Will Hunting (for a positive portrayal) and the trope of the Haunted Asylum (arguable more dangerous). I'd just be really curious to hear y'all's take on the subject!!
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Maybe as a part of how like mental health (not just mental illness) is portrayed on screen?
This was great. I miss The Takes videos that weren't just about tropes (though those are fun. I just miss a more "film breakdown" kind of vibe).
"Most basic need, to be loved"... Boer ppl, Ireland, and Bengal, beg to differ.
If people from the past are getting uppity about a work of fiction...? It means a nerve was hit. Poor Diana. May she Rest In Peace.
16:30 OMG no !!!! If Elisabeth rejected him because he collaborated with the Nazis to bring down Elisabeth's father !! do not take the extracts out of context, it is dishonest
MoreoverI find it sad to see only diana, to only value her. I absolutely love her. But the love that reads Charles and his mistress is incredible. We can see "the great love". Charles isn't the best person, but he's been good and in love with another woman for a decade before he met Diana.
i think putting the disclaimer that it's not a documentary but a drama would be extremely important especially regarding the popularity of the show
yeah it's not to uphold royalist institutions and stuff but because it is in fact not real and we can never really know about diana and charles' private conversations and life
I’m so happy that this video is basically a beautifully curated version of my thoughts on Lady Diana Spencer after the Fourth Season of ‘The Crown’.
This makes you understand even more why Harry & Meghan broke away - Diana would be proud 😢
Diana will always be our Princess and it'll never change. A family member of mine has a photograph with her from when they met and we all hold it so dear to our hearts. She truly was the people's princess, nay even a Queen to many
nope
heavy is the head that wears the crown. the crown sits on the queens head, it will always be about her. but i think the queen ignores people's need for love because they have everything else, hence her forcing people to marry not for love but because they fit the picture she wants to paint
She did not froce anyone to marry. She did try to insist that when a marraige had been solemnised that the couple invovled should try to keep it going
It’s so ironic that one of the key plots for the first few episodes is the horrors of the British occupation of Ireland when like half the actors playing the royals are Irish themselves.
I don’t even like the royals as a Brit.
But I somewhat respect Harry from getting away from them. Imagine being a prop for your entire life. Knowing your father got away with his affair for years, but your grandma might have had your mother killed for her affair. And he had to go on loving them in the public eye. So he acted out to shame them. He found someone on the outside, who also wanted to STAY on the outside. And Harry was allowed to do this because he really isn’t in line for the throne. They tried to make a better Diana for William. And chose this new outsider Kate, but because Kate wanted to (and I think for someone who is in line and what happened before) be on the inside. It really does remind me of nelly from scandal. She knows what she’s doing and there is a clear strategy. So she’s entirely willing to play that part - but she does love him.
Literally no one says royalty has to go this way. They could change the rules. It’s so stupid. Even politics, why is it someone HAS to be married and out on this show to appeal to the public?
God DAMNIT I knew there was some symbolism behind the stag!! Just couldn't figure out what it was... Thanks for clearing that up!
Diana was " the people's Princess" . Even now, two decades after her death, people still love her. And she deserves it, she was a wonderful human being. I highly recommend the documentary "Diana in her own words" it made me cry.🥺🥺
Rest in peace Queen Diana forever ❌👑🇹🇷
The last shot being her was very noticeable, good to see there's a reason for it. Season 4 definitely made her the protagonist, and the Royals the villains.
I loved all the imagery of the stairs. When Diana was leaving her flat with her friends, they were watching her descend down a spiral. It was the same imagery used to depict her sneaking into the kitchens at night (her eating disorder). The only shot of her going UP the stairs is the scene where she races to get on the phone with the Queen to call of the wedding.
I think the "stiff upper lip" practice and emotional repression is so popularly British because of the English monarch
I think it's the contrary. Emotional repression is very British, that's why British monarchs must incarnate the quintessence of "broom up the arse".
@@Nimrodel84 It came from France originally.
@@lemsip207 I don't think there's a population that can be accounted for the creation of the "stiff upper lips" practice. And French people are not traditionally emotionally repressed.
I think it is smart to be more cold then have emotions as it leads to always sadness.
@@NoOne-wn9ju Did Diana find that emoting all the time caused her to be happier
Seeing the way history is so obviously and painfully repeating itself with Harry and Meagan is heartbreaking. I hope the she can make it through unscathed and happy.
I really got to know Princess Diana back in 2014 after the movie Diana 2013. Ever since, I would just watch documentary after documentary about Princess Diana. When The Crown was about to enter into the 80's, I got so excited. I didn't expect that the season would have such a huge impact in the younger generation. I was already 23 when season 4 came out, and Gen Z completely fell in love with Princess Diana and cancelled Queen Elizabeth, Princess Charles, and Ms. Horrible Teeth.
I'm so glad the young now know what happened to Princess Diana:
The Crown nailed it. They showed the qualities that differentiated Princess Diana from the Royals. She was a kind human that happens to an aristocrat. While the Royal Family were cold and unloving. Simple as that.
Basically Princess Diana was hunted down just for publicity and for her womb to give the Royal Family grand children.
I really enjoy your analyses! I am glad that you highlighted that Dianna was not the naive girl, but did in fact know exactly what she was doing, and did seem to want to get back at the monarchy. With regards to Dianna, I wonder how you feel about their portrayal of her mental health concerns.
If it's any consolation,Kate and William have made up for the unfulfilled fairy tale we all wished for Diana
Kate is just like Diana only more nature. She smiles and supports a husband that cheats in her and "plays home" very good. She's exactly what would have happened if Diana had gone into this older; perfect like veneers (but damaged teeth underneath).
Not if the rumors of Prince William being unfaithful are true.
@@IsabelOEM they are rumors spun out by Markle camp,once she disappeared so did the false stories
@@TS-yy6jb nah, she was too busy worrying about the lies in the daily mail payed by Kate’s family.
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I just came back from a trial period for working for one of the richest families (with palaces and ish ...) And omg they're not even current royalty and their lives are insane. I wouldn't wish that life on anyone. Trust me !!! Is HORRIBLE .
I swear the guy who plays Charlies is an excellent actor. I feel like he has taken on Tobias cadence. Making him seem like he really is his son. Excellent acting all around.
Diana’s story is so powerful, hopefully it will teach us to be kinder
the show really makes me feel like the queen really wanted to let her feel more loved but everyone else around her made it so hard
another excellent video. I would love a video on how we revile Charles and Camilla for their affair and how it tortured Diana HOWEVER there are many examples of romantic comedies and dramas made from either the perspective of Charles (a person trapped by duty that chooses his true love in the end) or Camilla ( a woman who is unable to be with her true love officially but still does anything to be with them) that many people find relatable.
I think it would be interesting to explore how yes Diana was a victim but how it's weird we never find sympathy for Charles or Camilla even though many of us have found ourselves in their positions, being unable to be with the one we love in order to please our family etc.
ultimately I do think that the fact that Diana is much younger than Charles skews our view. He ultimately made the choice to marry her, a girl barely an adult to keep his title and to remain in good graces. Let's be real, if he truly did love Camilla he could have made that choice to leave the monarchy. Why did Camilla marry her first husband if she truly loved Charles? I might seem too defensive of Diana but the idea that she was "manipulative" for doing well in the Balmoral test, she was literally 20 when she got married. To her, a prince was a fantasy and why would she think otherwise? Ultimately Charles was what, in his thirties? When all this began and it just puts such a bad taste in my mouth when the playing field is so unbalanced between Charles and Diana.
I think the show gave us a lot of opportunities to sympathize with Charles and Camilla but ultimately put the blame on Charles, which I think it fair. I think we can have sympathy for all parties involved but Diana seemed to struggle the most and (imo) deserves the most sympathy. It's kind of sad because in situations like these it really isn't black and white.
That's because we understand the difference between fiction and reality. Charles and Camilla destroyed a real life person in order to have their cake and eat it too.
That’s why i grow to dislike the trope of cheating on your loyal partner for your “true” love (The Notebook, Serendipity, etc).
I personally feel the whole King Charles, Camilla, Diana saga really illustrates more than anything how we do set double standards for men and woman in general. It also illustrates the major social shifts in attitudes towards divorce and marriage from the 70s to present day. You cannot judge the past by modern standards, after all I think a thirty year old marrying a 19 year old would definitely raise more eyebrows today and likely not be seen to be the kind of marriage likely to last.
Your analysis is fascinating, but I still can't bring myself to care about hereditary billionaires sitting on silk pillows complaining at each other.
😂 I try to be empathetic to everyone but this did still make me lol
That's one perspective; another being that all the hereditary billions and silk pillows in the world can't buy you happiness... and I find that to be a inherently sad existence
I know I don't lose sleep on billionaire drama and all that. However, death is what makes us all equal and even I can't help but feel for Diana who was basically murdered so young and left behind two little boys.
experiencing sadness and loss, anger and confusion is not entitled to any class. Not a fan of 1st world problems (Woody Allen's Manhattan for example, makes me sick n tired) but a lot of problems that Princess Di had in the film are not because she's a royal (bulimia, a savaged sense of self, etc.)
Fun Fact: Diana translate to a Roman goddess who was the goddess of the hunt, forests, and childbirth.