Stepping on the rope with crampons, unclipping when the first hadn't finished.... there are too many people in the mountains, who don't know what they do.
@@sgabriel I was there in August 1988. Found some fellows at Rifugio Emmanuele, they took me with them and we made it up to the madonna. A very special day. I returned in 1997 and started at Pont at 2:00. I was alone and continued up to the great plateau 30 min beneath the summit. Of course not good practice too. But there were few crevasses and only narrow ones. I dared. But the weather changed and I returned. Good decision. I learned later that somebody get lost that day. Such things happened to me several times. The strangest one was at Popoctepetl in January 1994. Everything fine. But a few weeks later, a sudden eruption killed a whole groupe of Italiens. Poor chaps. The toxic fumes killed in no time.
I don't understand. The first biner was unclipped correctly (the second climber had already passed the second bolt). For what I can see, the last climber has to unclip the second biner before the partner can reach the belay (on the statue) because there is not enough rope between the two. This is not multi-pitch climbing: the guide is belaying the two climbers attached on one rope at fixed distances. This is the normal way on these alpine climbs.
Really nice tour. Did this summer '78 with my dad. Overnight at Vittorio Emanuelle Shelter. Bad thunderstorm rising while we where on summit. Nevertheless amazing experience.
Guides have to deal with idiots like this literally all the time, although as a result of this the guy who removed the rope would've come out the worst had anyone fallen.
Security clamp? What do you mean? As far as I can tell all three of them are properly tied in at all times. I’ve never seen two followers climbing on the same rope though, so don’t know what to watch out for.
There is no other gear between the second spit (carabiner) and the belay point (on the statue). The rope between the second climber and the third (holding the camera) is not long enough. So no choice, but unclipping the second carabiner before the partner has reached the safety of the belay. (The fist carabiner was unclipped correctly as far as I can see, when the partner had already passed the second spit).
@@FranFerioli assuming your last sentence is right, and at when he pans away at 00:47, the second climber, who had unclipped the draw at 00:44, had finished doing so and reclipped on the other side. If he hadn't and was unattached, a fall could've resulted in both of them swinging like a pendulum from the belay point, which could've been nasty. Let's assume you're right though. I'd love to climb Gran Paradiso - if we actually get some snow at some point this year I may ski up in the next few months, doesn't look like it for now though 😑
@@Punttout Best of luck. I tried skiing it a few years back, but there was too much wind higher up and we had to turn back before the summit. Still we had some awesome ski in the many huts around Gran Paradiso.
Weil ich nicht das Risiko eingehen wollte, mit derart unachtsamen Partnern unterwegs zu sein , bin ich eine halbe Stunde vor der Meute alleine aufgestiegen und habe der Madonna die Ehre erwiesen : Soli Deo Honor Wolfgang
no their guide is belaying the Woman in front of the camera guy and she is tied in with a double figure 8. Even if one falls the guide can stop the fall :)
That would be way more dangerous. Especially on the glacier below the summit. On a glacier, the snow softens during the day and you can fall through the snow into a crevasse you didn't even know was there. As for the summit, the guide upfront passed the rope through a friction knot in order to stop the accidental fall of a following climber. So, it it safe? Absolutely not, people die all the time in the mountains: 🤷♂
Its a little difficult to see exactly whats going on here but as a climber I am NOT comfortable with a few things these climbers did. The fact that a guide appears to be there makes it even worse.
Saw this mountain top in Minecraft. Laughed, because that's not how gravity works. Rocks can't hang that far over the edge without falling. Then one day I was randomly clicking around on CZcams.... Just.......no.
It's the only 4000m peak fully in Italian territory. The border runs through the summit of Month Blanc, Matterhorn and several peaks in the Monte Rosa group that are only half on the Italian side.
Bolts are an environmental problem only in North America. You can close the hole any time mixing resin with powder from nearby rocks and you will hardly notice upon close inspection. Bolts have lower environmental impact that anything else a climber does. And you are free to place your own gear instead, if you so prefer.
Stepping on the rope with crampons, unclipping when the first hadn't finished.... there are too many people in the mountains, who don't know what they do.
You are right. Uncontrolled and not safe. I don´t feel good to see this.
I was thinking the very same thing. Very poor practice.
@@sgabriel
I was there in August 1988. Found some fellows at Rifugio Emmanuele, they took me with them and we made it up to the madonna. A very special day. I returned in 1997 and started at Pont at 2:00. I was alone and continued up to the great plateau
30 min beneath the summit. Of course not good practice too. But there were few crevasses and only narrow ones. I dared.
But the weather changed and I returned. Good decision. I learned later that somebody get lost that day.
Such things happened to me several times. The strangest one was at Popoctepetl in January 1994. Everything fine. But a few weeks later, a sudden eruption killed a whole groupe of Italiens. Poor chaps. The toxic fumes killed in no time.
I don't understand. The first biner was unclipped correctly (the second climber had already passed the second bolt). For what I can see, the last climber has to unclip the second biner before the partner can reach the belay (on the statue) because there is not enough rope between the two.
This is not multi-pitch climbing: the guide is belaying the two climbers attached on one rope at fixed distances. This is the normal way on these alpine climbs.
Also the rocks look really unstable and with global warming this condition can become dire.
I’m in awe of the climbers who hauled up the statue, the plaques, and the cement/tools to mount them there.
They use a helicopter man!
@@TimEtTobi Wow, never saw one of those… is that like a straw man, but with a rotor?
Would be better if they didn't put that junk up there.
Really nice tour. Did this summer '78 with my dad. Overnight at Vittorio Emanuelle Shelter. Bad thunderstorm rising while we where on summit. Nevertheless amazing experience.
Lol 1:20 the climber in front of you stepped on the rope 😬😬😬
🤬Every good climber notice that crampon on the rope!😂 Not the best if you need to rappel down then! 😂I would scream loud!!! 😂😂
The second was very silly unlocking security clamp before the first was out of danger
Guides have to deal with idiots like this literally all the time, although as a result of this the guy who removed the rope would've come out the worst had anyone fallen.
Security clamp? What do you mean? As far as I can tell all three of them are properly tied in at all times. I’ve never seen two followers climbing on the same rope though, so don’t know what to watch out for.
There is no other gear between the second spit (carabiner) and the belay point (on the statue). The rope between the second climber and the third (holding the camera) is not long enough. So no choice, but unclipping the second carabiner before the partner has reached the safety of the belay. (The fist carabiner was unclipped correctly as far as I can see, when the partner had already passed the second spit).
@@FranFerioli assuming your last sentence is right, and at when he pans away at 00:47, the second climber, who had unclipped the draw at 00:44, had finished doing so and reclipped on the other side. If he hadn't and was unattached, a fall could've resulted in both of them swinging like a pendulum from the belay point, which could've been nasty. Let's assume you're right though. I'd love to climb Gran Paradiso - if we actually get some snow at some point this year I may ski up in the next few months, doesn't look like it for now though 😑
@@Punttout Best of luck. I tried skiing it a few years back, but there was too much wind higher up and we had to turn back before the summit. Still we had some awesome ski in the many huts around Gran Paradiso.
Never step on the rope!
1:20 steps on the rope with his crampon
Tremendous footage. I really enjoyed this, thanks.
Did anyone freak when she stepped on the rope with the crampons?
Everyone looks so pleased to have successfully reached the summit LOL
Well, that view is clearly worth all the work and the risks ; )
Simon Brooks. Yeah I know not one smile or yell of excitement lol
che dire,siete degli incoscenti,ma vi ammiro e vi stimo,buon anno x tutto il 2022,che la montagna vi sia sempre amica.recspet
Is that statue of Our Lady up there? Beautiful 😃
Video stupendo. Grazie. Super 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
God bless you guys. Awesome footage
This is madness. 🥶
This is freedom 😇
Running belay tekniğiyle tırmanırken uygulamaya dikkat etmek gerek. Lider emniyete girmeden artçı emniyetten çıkıyor ve ikisi de emniyetsiz kalıyor.
Weil ich nicht das Risiko eingehen wollte, mit derart unachtsamen Partnern unterwegs zu sein , bin ich eine halbe Stunde vor der Meute alleine aufgestiegen und habe der Madonna die Ehre erwiesen : Soli Deo Honor
Wolfgang
Are they unprotected when camera guy unclips that second carabineer as the leader mantles up onto the summit?
It does look like it.
No they aren't
no their guide is belaying the Woman in front of the camera guy and she is tied in with a double figure 8. Even if one falls the guide can stop the fall :)
Yes they are
No, the guy with orange pants is running the belay
7 volte in vetta, inverno/estate Bellissima
That's crazy 🤪 just watching the video scares me .
I wonder do they realise how unstable that whole mountaintop is?
BRAVOOOOOOOOO 👍👍👍💯💯💯💯💯
There is no way I would tie myself to ANYONE doing that. Ffs every man for himself.
That would be way more dangerous. Especially on the glacier below the summit. On a glacier, the snow softens during the day and you can fall through the snow into a crevasse you didn't even know was there.
As for the summit, the guide upfront passed the rope through a friction knot in order to stop the accidental fall of a following climber.
So, it it safe? Absolutely not, people die all the time in the mountains: 🤷♂
Its a little difficult to see exactly whats going on here but as a climber I am NOT comfortable with a few things these climbers did. The fact that a guide appears to be there makes it even worse.
Like climbing a Jenga tower. Raving bonkers.
Onde fica essa montanha o louco vocês São de coragem em 😨😨😨
Monte Gran Paradiso located in Valle D'Aosta, Italy. 👋
Amazing rock formation. Climbers should be aware of their writ distribution.
Even on CZcams, I get scared. (At least the water wasn't frozen in the bottle - but perhaps it was booze..)
Saw this mountain top in Minecraft. Laughed, because that's not how gravity works. Rocks can't hang that far over the edge without falling. Then one day I was randomly clicking around on CZcams....
Just.......no.
Bruh
wait what ? someone did the gran paradiso in minecfraft?
Looks cosy.
Worth it for the view alone 😳🙄
Great! 👏👏Gretting from Chile
Potrebbe essere il cusna quando c'è brutto 🤣
Ok guys what is the easiest way to cut a rope you might be relying on, @1.20. As others have said, madness.
Saco los seguros ?
Better have said a bunch of Hail Marys.
Scusami perché ti sei fermata alla Madonnina e non sei andata nel punto più alto del gran Paradiso visto che lo sapevi
Awesome guys
Where this mountain located ???
Italy
Alpi Graie, Aosta Valley, Italy.
@@massimopalomba5009 awesome 👍
It's the only 4000m peak fully in Italian territory. The border runs through the summit of Month Blanc, Matterhorn and several peaks in the Monte Rosa group that are only half on the Italian side.
EU NUNCA TERIA CORAGEM...
Looks very dangerous..
Non mi ricordo se fosse assicurato il passaggio, parlo di quaranta anni fa più o meno!
Sì, c'era 1 chiodo a metà.
Up and over just looks too fun to not do.
Pierwsze moje słowa jakbym dotarł na szczyt i zobaczył te mimozy....: wypier......
AMAZING
Nah, I'm good down here guys
Now let's see you get down
💯💯👍👍🏻👍👍🏻👍👍🏻
Blowing blizzard when I shimmy'd across that. Had to wait a bit for some timid girl to back off and retreat first.
Gran Paradiso m.4061.
this is not the true summit, la madonna is at 4055
That doesn't even look real. Almost like it's floating in midair
Must be Europe with all the bolts next to what look like nice gear cracks. So much for environmentalism.
Bolts are an environmental problem only in North America. You can close the hole any time mixing resin with powder from nearby rocks and you will hardly notice upon close inspection. Bolts have lower environmental impact that anything else a climber does. And you are free to place your own gear instead, if you so prefer.
Grazie della risposta rovini la cima alle persone e non ti degni di rispondere grazie mille di cuore
Looks like an easy climb look how clean everyones clothes are none of them had to actual get down and dirty.
Your shoelace is undone
Which mountain?
“Gran Paradiso”. It’s an italian mountain
Guys seem not to be very experienced.
One day they will broke their bones with such way of security on the rope.
Dont use your knees!
All I can say is F THAT!!!!!
La cima è 4061 non 4055
pero la madonna non è la vera cima, la madonna è a 4055
Purtroppo è vero 😢
tha'ts the Madonna... not the summit
It is the summit though
@@niciie100 not the true summit
@@MrCollewet whats the summit then?
@@niciie100 madonna is at 4058m, true summit is at 4061m. You have to continue for like 30 or 50meters on the ridge.
@@MrCollewet i have been there myself last year and i can say that there is no higher rocks.
nice view haha
Nope!
4061m!😜
La madonna isn't the true summit though, la madonna is 4055
Abbiamo sbagliato cima, ha ragione lei, le guide alpine mica lo dicono! 😢
Nope.
Alright people lets take a picture with this statue and act like we're full time practicing Catholics ok..
Is that statue Jesus or Mary?
A lot of priests sure have been acting like full time practicing Catholics, spending so much time with young boys
Not too bright...
Wszyscy pokazują jak wejść, ale nikt nie pokazuje zejścia w dół.
Stupid guys non safety😂😮
Ruining a perfectly good mountaintop with silly religious idolatry.
Doing this completly wrong and unsafe progression and making a vidéo is really a non sense.
I yust yump over the rock
Humans are silly. Just look at this bunch.
a shame to see those bolts on the beautiful rock, just to help weak climbers
They should install an escalator and mountain top gift shop to make life easier for them.
Women😂
Permission to speak freely....No fucking way. I'll stick with walking sand dunes thank you.
Quante volte
Statue carried there on Easter Sunday by four blokes.