NFL MVP odds, COY odds and more | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 626) & Bet the Edge | NFL on NBC
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- Jay (@croucherJD) and Drew (@whale_capper) sit down with Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) and Ahmed Fareed (@ahmedNBC) of Chris Simms Unbuttoned to break down strategies for investing in NFL futures during the summer and in the regular season. The group also discusses Patrick Mahomes as the MVP favorite and other legitimate contenders to win the award before analyzing Zac Taylor, Dan Quinn, and Dan Campbell for Coach of the Year. They conclude with pricing of the Jaguars, Colts, Cardinals, and Vikings to make the Playoffs. #NBCSports #BetTheEdge #ChrisSimmsUnbuttoned #NFLonNBC
(0:00) - Hello and welcome
(3:20) - Timing market entry on NFL Futures
(8:45) - MVP: Patrick Mahomes, C.J. Stroud, Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, and Jared Goff
(21:00) - Coach of the Year: Zac Taylor, Dan Quinn, Dan Campbell
(28:00) - To Make the Playoffs: Jaguars, Colts, Jets, Cardinals, Vikings, and Bears
(34:40) - Favorite futures bet right now
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NFL MVP odds, COY odds and more | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL Ep. 626) & Bet the Edge | NFL on NBC
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13:20 - lol Chris really said if you don’t throw enough interceptions, you’re not trying to win the game. So let me get this straight:
- When Brock threw in Green Bay game, Simms ripped him for the 4 bad throws (which Simms also later increased to 7 bad throws).
- But when Josh Allen throws interceptions, they're okay bc he's trying to help his team win ... ?
Riiight.
Well what he means is the old days of Drew brees throwing for 75 completion percentage and throwing single digit interceptions are over. Teams and defenses are to good now, if you’re being conservative or not taking any chances and not trying to win the game then your ass will be in the bench. All the good quarterbacks in football right now are aggressive and take chances. Patrick mahomes threw 14 interceptions this year the chiefs won the Super Bowl, Matthew Stafford led the league with 18 interceptions in 2021 and the rams won the Super Bowl.
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I love Brock but I understand the narrative. He isn’t just knocked for having a consistently top 3 roster, he also benefits from a top 3 offensive mind of the last decade (at the least). Compare that to Josh Allen and his roster/coaching. This is part of Simms criteria.
Having said this, Brock is the man and is a damn winner. He just needs to continue this play to get the recognition when considering all factors to most people.
Not all interceptions are created equal. When you have to take risks for your team to win in general vs needing to not take unnecessary risks because your team is good enough to win without them, it would stand to reason that your interceptions would be more acceptable/understandable.
Wait, interceptions don't count , but you put down Purdy for almost interceptions.
Imagine getting criticized for throwing 48-4 on the season!! Scared to throw the ball. Facts are facts
Uh oh a guest gives Brock purdy praise, hope Chris simms was okay after this.
Wow more crying. Get a grip dude.
@@GKA11111 😂
Simms gives him plenty of praise.
@@dkenned4 Praise followed up with constant criticism is not really praise.
So many damn excuses for Josh Allen
The takes on interceptions are insane.
This guy is a genius ur telling me if I bet on an nfl future im gonna have to wait awhile? Wow
I disagree about the interception narrative. Strongly. Qb fumbles are usually the faulty protection of someone else. Interceptions can only happen if the qb throws it when and where they did regardless of the other factors.
I am also surprised no one likes Lamar to repeat as mvp. He did get 49 of the 50 votes without good statistics. If the Ravens run away with the 1 seed again while Lamar has good numbers because all of a sudden he has a Centaur to hand the ball to instead of a 2nd or 3rd string rb like usual. The Ravens have 2 elite te targets to compliment and score tds off what should be an overwhelming running game that forces them into predictable single coverage.
I thought I understood sports betting until I watched this episode
Clearly many upset first time listeners coming from First Things First… please leave your spam out of the comments - we like real analysis here
It's hilarious how much of the same comments are being made, I was wondering where all the new listeners came from. Mad because Chris said stuff he's been saying for years lmao. People really do just ride with whatever QB is on their team based on nothing else
Interesting how they all think the vikings have a shot at a wild card because of the coaching yet no one picked KOC for coach of the year.
If he gets 10 wins and makes the play offs in that division with either Darnold or Mccarthy at QB I don't know how he's not at least in the conversation.
Oh and their strength of schedule is far harder than the Bengals and the Bears
Because they won 13 games 2 years ago and 7 games last year without a starting QB for half of a season. Winning 10 games would be a good season, but it wouldn’t be spectacular by any means. CoY goes to a coach of a team that far surpasses preseason expectations, or overcomes extreme adversity.
The mvp race being decided by the qb who gets the one seed is so fucking unbelievably stupid. Its most valuable player not most valuable team. Voting needs and overhaul
No one else in football gets slighted for having a good team it’s ridiculous that we are still using that as an argument for Brock
The 49'ers have the best roster in the NFL and it isn't particularly close. That's why.
I know it’s wrong but I can’t do the accent 😂
When are we getting the Big Phil episode?
EARLY UPLOAD???? YES YES YES
Funny how the interception thing was a big deal when dak led in it, and now it isn’t
They making all those excuses for everybody not named Brock Purdy smh
This fool said Kellen Mond would be the next Dak…
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I've been studying the stats from last year. He'll, go back to the first start of Brock Purdys. He is literally the best QB in the league statistics wise. He is the best under pressure. He is the best deep ball thrower. He doesn't dink and dunk. He is most accurate under pressure. He had one of the worst offensive lines during pass plays in the league. Dude broke a ton of records in college and then the NFL. Best QBR and did it with more games in a season. First full off season. His last one he was still recovering from a massive surgery to his throwing arm. Brock is the best QB in the NFL.
Oh. Also simms calling himself a QB expert is a joke. He was trash. He can't evaluate talent. He is consistently wrong with m9st of his QB takes. He got to play QB because of his father. He was trash.
@@Richard-gw2lr I hate to tell you this my guy, but most people are wrong about most qbs being good. It's why there are 5 first round qbs selected every year and almost non of then end up being awesome.
you people and your nonsense Burrow love is always so amusing. The guy has never had mvp numbers and is entering the season coming off of rehabbing another injury. But he's going to win MVP right? hilarious. He won't even be top 3.
Favoring the Bengals to win the North handedly is a joke.
This dude “if”’s a lot
That's what betting is.
Why is Breece Hall expected to pop off out of nowhere?
Because if Rodgers stays healthy they can't stack the box for the 1st time in Halls career. Not to mention he is now fully healthy from the torn ACL.
Fumbles lost more than just fumbles. That's key to distinguish.
Anytime you see fumbles stat without the “lost” distinction, it refers to fumbles lost.
PURDY DONE MORE IN 2 YEARS THEN CHRIS SIMMS DID ALL HIS CARRER LOL
So what? lol
What does that have to do with anything. Playing and analyzing are two different things
What has got to do with anything.
Simms didn't play for Shanahan, in this era, with the 49ers' roster, and had a totally different injury history than Purdy. Go sit down and let the adults talk.
Mahomes did more in half a season than Purdy’s ever done!
Belicheck had to go 16-0 to finally win coach of the year. Just one example showing why this award, and all of the awards, are bullshit and deserve none of our attention or care
new music in the outro
WHAT?! In regards to the head coach of the year award: “there’s an element of overachieving and surprise with this award.” Uhh an element?? It’s like the whole criteria. It’s never the actual best coaches in the league that win it. It’s the team that outdid their expectations. Belicheck should’ve won Coach of the Year every year but he won it like once if I remember correctly. It’s a stupid bogus award. Just like the rest of them
Burrow hasn't beaten Mahomes in multiple seasons and the last time he did was because the Bengals defense carried.
What is Chris simms known for ? O yes his dad😂
He’s a great football analyst. Idk what kind of weird hatred you have towards him. What are you known for Jerry?? Being a potato GM on your couch? Touch grass, geezer.
Matt Eberflus couldnt find a way to win with fields, that guy should never be coach of the year over lafleur. Just cause they tanked and got 2 top 10 picks does not mean the coach should be awarded for inheriting better players. Lafleur took nobodies and made them good, quit the disrespect
Man Vegas can’t get enough of Josh Allen can they. No fucking way CJ Stroud should have better odds than Burrow. Burrow should be right after Mahomes. I’m betting Burrow wins it this year. And yes the Bengals will have the 1 seed.
Take jordan love over passing yards… bettting my car on this shit
An award based on stats and votes (opinions), but there are pre-season odds. Does nobody else see the problem with that?
NFL are barely even hiding their conflicts of interest any more. Team owners also owning sportsbooks is just a fck you to sport fans. Keep watching and we will see all sorts of cheating and controversy increase in future years because of gambling.
That's why it's called gambling. If you wait for all the stats and opinions, you don't get same odds.
Shanahan made a bunch of blunders in the Superbowl which is the biggest reason they lost. "Best in the league"... are we watching the same sport? The obvious standout best coach in the league is Andy Reid. He rarely makes mistakes and is the difference in the biggest moments with creativity unmatched. He is the best game manager from start to finish game after game, year after year.
I like Purdy but he is not in the top five on his team. Purdy and Allen are almost opposites of each other. Purdy = low risk with A grade help everywhere. Allen does more for his team than any qb I have ever seen.
It helps a lot when you have Mahomes who is 10000x the QB Purdy will EVER be lol. You’re talking about a coach who has arguably the best QB of all time, versus a dude who’s an average game manager lmfao.
@@kevenadrien - Clearly you can't tell the difference between a coach and a player. Mahomes does not decide who plays. Mahomes does not call plays. Mahomes does not do ANY of the things that the coach does. I won't argue about Mahomes being great but that is not what we are talking about. If you watch the game you will only see the players play but if you understand the game you should understand that the coach has the biggest impact on results because they do far more than any one player can do. Mahomes has never played defense but Andy Reid is still the boss making decisions and winning games when Mahomes is on the sidelines.
@@warpeace8891 and you need to know there’s miles and miles and miles of a talent gap between Purdy and Mahomes. If Shanahan had Mahomes, he wins just as many Super Bowls as Reid.
@@kevenadrien - You have a real comprehension problem don't you. THIS IS NOT ABOUT QUARTERBACKS.
@@warpeace8891 this is definitely about QBs…
all y'all Brock Purdy fanboys need to getta outta yer feelings & get into being not so delusional...
The only delusional people are these so called analysts downplaying the QB who finished top 3 in nearly every QB stat while having the 23rd best offensive line. Purdy lead the NFL in passer rating and QBR and set an NFL record with throwing over 50% completion rate of passes over 25 yards.
@@citizenx8710and none of that mattered in the Super Bowl did it? 😂😂😂😂😂
Stop coping. He’s a good game manager, system QB. It takes a superstar at the position to win the Super Bowl, Purdy isn’t that and THAT is why the 49ers didn’t win.
@@kevenadrien They didn't win because of a muffed punt, CMC fumbled, they didn't defer in OT, Shanahan went 9 plays in the 3rd quarter and only ran one time in those 9 plays. The defense also shit the bed in the last two KC possessions and Burford didn't block Chris Jones on the last offensive play in OT causing a broken play despite Aiyuk and Jennings being wide open. They did not lose due to Purdy.
Also my niece is 8 and uses emojis too.
@@citizenx8710 cool story bro. The Chiefs didn’t play a perfect game either, but Patrick Mahomes made it happen because he’s a superstar. Purdy isn’t that guy. Maybe this season he makes the jump.
@@kevenadrien I am recalling the events of the game that cost SF the Superbowl. Those events were more significant in costing 49ers the Superbowl than anything Purdy didn't do. Fact is they were in the lead twice at the end of the game until SF defense gave up two scores to KC. Purdy didn't play bad and outplayed every other QB in the playoffs against the top defense of this year's postseason. KC rode their stellar defensive play to a championship and Mahommes came through at the end.
But continue denying the reality that Purdy is the guy for SF which was blatantly evident last season.
A whole video about betting? 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Lol really? Are you 12?
This show needs to stop talking about Brock Purdy.
If you don't have any facts to say and just assumptions....leave the dude alone.
He was robbed of MVP last year and proved who he is the playoffs.
Say he says for a choker called Kyle Shanahan who cost him a SuperBowl
I swear Ahmed is the most annoying kind of fan. Everything is about him when it comes to the Lions, MVP talk and what does Ahmed contribute? “Why wasn’t Goff mentioned once?” Wow really great contribution I’m so glad he’s on this show sharing his deep complex football knowledge. NOT
A deep complex football analyst isn’t his role though lmfao. He’s a mediator, and he’s great at that. Idk what you’re whining about.
They know putting Brock on the cover will get views but they end up undervaluing him. Kinda weird
It’s called “clickbait” and it’s been a CZcams phenomenon for over a decade. Tada!
Ahmed is a grown ass man and you can tell that he is ALWAYS scared of getting in trouble with daddy boss. He won’t even cuss. And the way he tries to control Simms (and makes this show so much worse as a result) you can just tell that he’s a pansy killjoy. I really haven’t seen in anyone in my whole life that is such a pathetic waste of space
Dude chill
Omg sooooo boring
Ahmed is such a lame square buzzkill. But the worst part is that he never stops trying to make jokes and be funny. Which makes no sense. He should know that a lame square buzzkill cannot possibly be funny
It’s just crazy how uncool Ahmed is. He just sticks out like a sore thumb as a total bore and a buzzkill. How could anyone ever accomplish being more lame and more of a bummer than Ahmed?? It’s just not possible
dude, what's wrong with you. Multiple comments on Ahmed, why you're hating so much. The dude is a fine guy and a good host. Focus your attention and energy on your life and things you can control instead
@@marcelmartins5938 no Ahmed shouldn’t be the cohost on here he’s not qualified he doesn’t add anything to the show. He only saps goodness from it
If Simms wants to talk about drugs so much on the show, do you think he could try to do so without being scientifically and medically illiterate? Or promoting potentially harmful ideas such as increased THC potency equating to good?
He’s talking about weed don’t say drugs
Calling marijuana drugs 😂😂😂…It’s 2024 not 1964 😒
This won’t age well. Complaining about weed in 2024 it’s pointless. People are super defensive about anything that makes their lives easier. Weed is an escape. People are going to destroy you for not loving it. Tons of people would rather get high on weed than deal with life or be sober. They defend weed more passionately than the defend their families. I love Simms but he’s on the weed train and nothing will pull him off
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@@JC-hq7iu weed does make you gay. Thanks for adding that
Ahmed is just the worst. You could have anyone, and I literally mean anyone, in his place and this podcast would be better