I PUT Jet Fuel in my Orange County Chopper Motorcycle
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2021
- Have you ever wondered what would happen if instead of gasoline you ran Jet fuel in your motorcycle? We have an Orange county Chopper thats been begging for some jet fuel. well you dont have to wonder any longer because we did it and its awesome.
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I worked as a helicopter technician on a french air base. I used to put Jet A in my VW 1.9 TDI (same flash point as diesel and waaaay cheaper as it is exempt of taxes). It cleans the injectors and pollutes way less so no problem passing the Motor Inspection. The only problem is that it is less oily than diesel, so the fuel pump is not properly lubricated and can deteriorate. I solved that mixing it with 2 stroke oil (about 2%).
A guy got arrested in the UK for collecting used chip pan oil from fish and chip shops and using it as fuel in his diesel car. The cops nabbed him because they could smell him driving around town. He got done for tax evasion on fuel. What a bullshit government nailing you for recycling!!
@@pentachronic what a fucked up situation
@@tjlovesrachel Right ?
Thank you!!! I’ve known guys that run “fuel sump waste” in their tractors
We just use red diesel in Northern Ireland (agricultural diesel) its 65p a litre
Without even watching 5 minutes of this I know for a fact:
- Methanol (racing alcohol fuel) requires a MUCH higher stoichiometry compared to gasoline. So simply putting it into a carbureted motor will never run properly. It will be massively lean. You cannot simply "jet up" either. You need a carburetor designed for alcohol.
- AvGas is similar to racing fuel but is oxygenated to burn at high altitudes. It's high octane so it burns slower so it can be used in high compression engines.
- "Jet fuel" is basically the purest form of kerosene/diesel/heating oil. So running that in an internal combustion engine designed for gasoline is nearly impossible.
Also, simply increasing octane without making changes to take advantage of it (increase ignition timing, increasing compression ratio), is rather worthless.
All the points idve considered
Thanks for putting everything that was in my mind into words and typing it all lol You are dead on accurate
You know, ethanol does the same trick as methanol. Only difference is where you get it. Methanol is distilled from wood, ethanol from grain, potatoes and what not.
Yep, the whole premise of this video is flawed.
The engine carburetor/injection must be adjusted to the used fuel. Oil content for lubrication should also be considered. Using the wrong fuel is always bad
I always felt sorry for idiots that got ripped off by OC.
Me too. The episode when they tried to put EFI and eletronic injection basically said everything about their mechanical understanding. They might have made good looking bikes, but that's it. Kind of crap otherwise.
It's like these guys who thinks you can just change fuel without doing anything else to the bike ;D
@@viktorandersson7819 in all fairness, these guys don't claim to be a professional custom bike buildings selling bikes for a profit. They just make silly videos and get add revenue.
@@lazzie7495 Yea, that's a key difference 😄👍
never walk away from a fool and his money i wonder if they knew they were buying the cheapest v twin engine all stock if they would still buy it
@@perry92964 they weren't buying it for the engine.. most of the people that go for OCC over real bike builders are people that don't do research, usually posers.
Jet fuel contamination is actually a major factor in engine failures in piston aircraft, particularly in light twins where fuelers are more likely to screw up and confuse them for turboprops. Jet fuel will absolutely ruin a piston engine, while something made for jet fuel actually might run (badly) on avgas.
That's because jets are turbines, they have a lot more flexibility in what you can run them on. The US military standardizes all its ground vehicles on jet fuel because it's not as flammable and is useless to most potential opponents if captured, but the jet turbines that the Abrams and our ships run on can actually burn just about anything.
OCC, making $80,000 bikes by taking $5000 in parts and charging $75,000 to assemble them.
Pretty smart...
@@0e32
Ya and that’s why they are out of business
I'm honestly surprised they still exist today.
@@FP194 nah they moved to florida but aint nobody in Florida gonna buy those shit bikes
A friend bought one. Very uncomfortable. Just sad.
This is more entertaining than an episode of OCC.
Definitely
Ehh Paul sr and Paul jr yelling at each other was pretty entertaining
Being punched in the dick is more entertaining than OCC!
@@W.M_MotorSport - Paul and Pauly got old, real quick.
0cc the size of their engines was fun. Like big time wrestling fun. And you know that's fake. So this is 1cc more entertaining. Because this is also all scriptures.
My dad and I used to run AV gas 100LL in our gtos. Used to pull up to airport and fill up 6 5 gallon cans. Funny, it was like 2.40 to 2.75 a gallon several yrs ago and that felt pricey back then..now it sounds dirt cheap! Our ponchos sure ran great on it and the best part..the smell...can't get enough of it! Like the smell of a 2 stroke, used to go to supercrosses yrs back when 2 strokes were in and would come home smelling like oil n gas PJ1!!!!!....man something about that smell..
So good!!!!! I used to put av gas in my lawn mower even, would also pop flames out the exhsust....beast lawn mode!!!!
I wish I was there to tell them that JetA/Jp5 is the same as diesel/F-76. It just has antifreeze additives.
I would like to hear more do you have a link to a video that explains that? It's funny how many products that are very expensive are made out of easily obtainable ingredients. For example my mother needed some Mucinex which is the brand name and right next to it I found something that had the same ingredient and dosage that was 1/3 of the price. That also reminds me this is just random when me and my buddy were in high school we learned that you could take those packing peanuts and mix it with gasoline and make napalm LOL. It almost worked too well. The guy I used to know that worked forget air America taught me that. If you don't have access to that you could use certain types of soaps.
Jet A has less oil than diesel but yes virtually the same.
@@jonathanperry8331 I'm sure the info is easy to find on Google. I just know because we test the quality of various fuels onboard for engines and aircrafts under the guidance of various tech manuals. They're all just various forms of kerosene. Yes, there are certain additives that act as a cleaning agent. Believe it or not, we've seen bacteria growth in fuel systems too, we call them boogers lol.
People went crazy for those bikes. They were and still are nothing but a high priced TURD... what a waste of money.
turd 🤭🤭🤭
I loved the shows but had no interest in a bike that wasn't really usable to me.
Chocolate dragon same I thought these things were stupid but couod appreciate the art of them
Its just a platform for a stock motor. Has nothing to do with the engine performance. SMH. You could lay a Honda motor in it. Simply put its a frame holding whatever motor you install. Engine performance has nothing to do with occ. They are overpriced brand name in my opinion.
+Applicator 40 USA I saw one of the custom bikes in a museum and lordy it's a POS.
Are you selling the old broken Evolution engine? I am looking for one to rebuild.
Liked the comment in hopes he sees it for ya! Goodluck btw:)
I've rebuilt an engine after jet fuel before. It will need at least a complete top end. Pistons, jugs, valves, guides and usually heads too. Sometimes the det hurts the rod bearings aswell and if its been left it will thin down the oil and cause all sorts of bottom end damage over time.
You're as well off just buying some used cases and starting again.
@@siraff4461 I call bullshit !
@@kurtfoulke5130 Like I care. Buy it if you're so confident.
@Lars Kessel I have one for sale!
It was cool to hear how that engine sound changed with different fuel types and that new engine looks so much better on that bike
A few years ago there was a guy that had an OCC chopper that he brought up to Schochs Harley Davidson in Stroudsburg, PA. One of the salesman said to the guy " Start it up Let's hear it" the guy replied " It don't even run ". Turns out he was an electrician that did some work for OCC and they gave him the bike in exchange for the money they owed him. Those bikes are for show only. Half of them are never ridden. The Harley dealer was bought out a couple years ago and is now Pocono Mountain Harley Davidson in Tannersville, PA. Ironically Rick Petco from OCC has a shop that was built in the new dealership. He does custom work for their customers when they purchase a bike from them. Now if you want to make that thing run take it to JD Cycles in Nazareth, PA. Dyno Dave is phenomenal with turning a bike.
I like that I can actually watch this show with my kids. Nice good clean channel and entertainment
But a shame about the bible thumping.
@@jerryjungle5717 says you! I wouldn't say it's a "shame" at all. A good show regardless. Cmon you like it 😉
It would be "a good show" if it didn't have quotes from the bible.
No I don't like it 👎
In fact I've clicked on the not interested, hopefully this channel doesn't come up on my CZcams feed again.
You've probably heard the saying " religion is like a penis, it's okay too have one but don't try to stuff it down my throat"
Have a nice day.
@@jerryjungle5717 i don't think anyone forced you to watch it lol. By the sounds of it you watched more then one.. also never heard anyone preaching. Why keep ordering big Macs if your dont like them, then tell everyone how awful big macs are, then go back and yet order another? Then yet again complain about it.
Honestly some people I don’t understand.
Jet fuel is nothing like gas, it’s more comparable to diesel.
It's literally just clean diesel lol. Has more methanol in the mix, burns extremely hot.
It's actually kerosene. Just cleaner.
Jet fuel is nothing special, it is clean kerosene with a few variations for certain aviation conditions.
Aviation gas is available in two grades 80 octane and if memory serves 101 octane ( hard to get it burning hard to keep it burning. I understand an 82 octane fuel is under development, Lots of people think the fuel is the source of extra power, not true the fuel allows other modifications that cause the increase in power. High octane simple means harder and slower burning. Internal combustion engines can burn any flammable substances it you can get it inside the combustion chamber in the correct volume. I have converted Ford , Chevrolet and Dodge engines to run on compress natural gas , the biggest problem in using CNG is the octane is very high resulting in lower power output. Raising the compression would have helped but that was not in the budget.
It's Kerosene right? You know you can drink pure Kerosene and it cures terminal disease. Terminal illness being caused by parasites of course. Turpentine for parasites is more common, and has the added benefit of inducing extreme mental clarity, due to it's dopamine and serotonin inducing effects, because it has Alpha-Pinene in it, a fancy Terpene that comes from pine trees. Turpentine is not an alcohol or a fossil fuel, it's actually produced entirely by the Pine Tree.. There's a massive cover up to stop people from buying or using Turpentine.
@@Ritalie just no
That's nice but I have been using a small pellet of semi enriched plutonium-239 in my 1992 FXR Superglide and she has been running great for the past 27 years. I converted the combustion chamber over in 1995. My two cylinders and heads are solid lead. So far so good.
You missed the chance to talk about Mr. FUSION.
What this bike needs is a Bubble Engine! 😈
Without the exhaust! 😉 😂 😂 😉
Yep. That's the coolest sounding bike ever
That was a China County chopper.
@@FordBaFalcon
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
POS ANYONE who bought one made a baaaad investment.
This is literally what every episode of OCC should have been. And thanks for not screaming at each other the whole time...lol.
I'm all in on a whole channel that buys OCC bikes for 1/10th the original price and run them into the ground with 91 octane and simply running them to vegas. Subs can guess what mile marker it will fall apart.
Wait, is 91 octane overkill on these bikes (or this particular bike)? I have no real idea of the compression ratio.
What you’re saying is we need Whistlin Diesel to show up for the bikes?
As someone who doesnt know jack about bikes, what's wrong with OCC bikes?
@@hwoods01 Hi H. Basically they are just novelty bikes that celebrities pay big bucks for but are un-rideable, un-safe and unreliable. I have seen episodes where the tension mounting segment of the show is they have present the bike in an hour and they can't even get it to start.
@@POPPASHANGO and... it’s all staged. These ‘Garage Shows’ are bs. It takes a long time to build a vehicle properly, and is tedious work, generally quite boring to the observer.
You guys have a very cool show and I will continue watching however with episodes like this I would appreciate seeing Data comparison tables.
Remember, as an audience we see only a small portion of what you folks see during the testing. You can’t assume that we know what you know. Thank you
ive missed watching occ because it reminds me of my child hood. thank you for bringing back some great memories
Edit: so sad to see an evo motor be wasted but yea that chopper needed way more power
Any time
I loved the show as a teenager but now as an adult, it’s really obvious none of those guys were mechanically inclined. They were all fabricators.
Being in my 40s you may as well buy a bike from a dude at an art fair. Sure he makes beautiful art but he has zero mechanic skills.
@@BikesandBeards wey gas in at
@@BikesandBeards wey you bey chopper
While watching OCC I was always surprised at how often they ran into the same problems making a "new" bike. They never seemed to learn from those mistakes and always turned out (IMHO) garbage.
In all of the shows that I watch I don't remember them ever being able to start one of their crappy creations on the first try.
You do realize it was all scripted garbage right?
They built the same bike over and over again . Just pipes and paint job .
That show wasn't about building (quality) motorcycles. It was all about yelling and fighting. So I tried two episodes and stopped watching.
@@M11TS yup all scripted bull5hit
I used to mechanic for a amateur bike racer in the U.K , we used to mix standard pump fuel with avgas , it gives a better burn and runs cooler , important when you have a skimmed head , polished ports and all the other things to try and wring the neck of the bike for whatever you could get out of it
Love this show! As for car building shows Texas Metal is awesome! No screaming and they show their whole process!
It's a testament to the Evo engine that it didn't blow the fvck up immediately. Those things not only saved the MoCo, they were pretty well bulletproof. Had an Evo powered bike for 13 years, and that engine never let me down once.
Yeah, not anymore. THEY GONNA BE ALL ELECTRIC BY 2030!!!!
All three of my bikes are EVO and get ridden daily. They have never let me down. Love the EVO engine.
@@o0o_OutCast_o0o Yeah, gotta agree with you. I've got a TwinCam now, an '06 Softail. I love it, it's easy to start, reliable and runs great, more grunt than the Evo, but every now and then I find myself missing the "process" of starting up the Evo, letting her idle for a short time until the rocker boxes are warm to the touch, then easing on down the road for 5 or 6 miles before winding her up. One day, when I'm rich, I'll get myself another one. Took that bike all over Australia, following the work, through parched outback roads and floodwaters, and she never let me down once. 👍
I was dead when Sean grabbed the left handle to twist the throttle. Edit: My apologies camera tricks when your chilling on the porcelain throne🚽🍩
Yeah I noticed that too lol
You edited your comment
Yeah his name was spelled incorrectly
The camera is reversed. Look at the exhaust lol
Came to look for this
I worked in an airport. The fuel supplier, (Buckeye Pipelines) explained to me the jet fuel was basically diesel with a higher Sulphur content.
The best part of this is way better than OCC is yall are not SCREAMING @ Each other 😁 I like this channel just saw it & y'all are trying to figure a cheaper way to gain Horse Power and lower fuel price. I use to watch orange county choppers those 2 would like remind me of my dad & my oldest brother all ways disagreed on little to nothing while chewing each other's azzes out till where I'd get scared till one of them leave and that'll be my big brother it got so bad that my big brother moved out as a teenager to live with my grandmother my dad's mother but never did they punched one another that I know of lol but yep Sr and Jr didn't get along good while I was around except when they go bowling in a tournament so as a child remembered this I gain a whole lot of respect to myself when my first son came into this world I've learnt how to not have the same relationship that my dad and brother did my first son is a Jr I'm Sr he's 22 going on 23 I've just turned 56 we have a good relationship with each other. Not once in his life time under my roof and out from under me on his own had I ever had to give him a spanking 😁 we got along great as much as I hated the way I had to see how father & son didn't get along good at times but it was a learning experience for me. Thanks for the video you have a subscriber
I had a Honda 750 motorcycle with a custom built engine bored out to 950 and had a cam. It was a strong running engine. I used av gas in it almost exclusively. I never had any trouble with it and the av gas made it run sooo very good.
jet Fuel is high purity Kerosene, can't see that being a good idea in reality.....;)
Oh but pure genius for uturd ad salesmen. Heck it got me here LOL
Exactly, why didn’t they try diesel? What a waste of time. The AV Gas is only going to bump the HP if you run fairly high comp too.
Higher octane = less ping with high compression, but less energy per unit. One doesn’t run hi octane to make HP, one runs it because of low octane detonation/ pre ignition in hi comp applications. The lower the octane the hotter and faster the burn.
As comp goes up, HP goes up, the octane is there to allow higher comp, not make HP.
It was a goofy experiment.
Yep, only mush brains think jet fuel is some kind of super high octane race fuel, when in reality it’s the polar opposite. You can drop a match in jet fuel as it’s just about as flammable as water.
I know right. 🤔
Wayne: Lantern and heater fuel in the days long gone.
We use Avgas 100LL in our 2 stroke dirtbikes as a source of non-ethanol fuel, since we can't really buy non-ethanol fuel at the pump except in racegas (VP Racing) formulation and the AvGas at $5 a gallon is 1/2 the price. It runs absolutely fine, though I'm always thinking of driving one state over to get lower octane non-ethanol fuel to mix since higher octane fuels don't burn as well as lower octane fuels when the engine doesn't need the higher octane due to compression reasons.
this is the bike we need to see going through the scrap yard shredder
Looks great tho
I disagree. Just because you have a hateboner for OCC for some reason doesn't mean people should just shred their stuff. The bikes they make are meant to be put on display. They're show-bikes made for entertainment and told this on the show many times. Just because you feel slighted for some reason doesn't mean you should give in to saying petty stuff like that.
@@DanakarEndeel yeah. I have no skin in the game either way, but I don't see how people are still so pissy lol. This was said very frequently: SHOW bikes.
These guys are geniuses especially Craig I wish I had a Craig next door for any mechanical issues lol
OCC the official chopper brand of “hi, I’m an orthodontist”
So funny. A local dentist where I live had one with “Tooth Fairy” on it
Loving the RCR vibes
or the official brand of ''i just told my wife i had an affair with a sheep''
Senior built that chopper; he was having a senior day while buying cheap parts made by Daewoo!
@Amy h , yell, physically and mentally abused his ex wives, built garbage bikes..
I've run Grey Marine (GM) 6-110 diesel engine engines on an oil barge with kerosene and kerosene/diesel fuel mixtures. Except for some additional sparks coming out of the stacks they ran fine.
I hadn't seen my bud in years. When I traveled to see him, both of us now married with kids, apparently he wanted to impress me and put aviation fuel in his old 54 pan chopper. (very cool bike in the day). It blew out oil from every seal and gasket. Much more than usually LOL. After a couple hours of hymin and hawin, troubleshooting, he fessed up changed the fuel and spent the weekend riding like back in the day.
Now we need to get our hands on some rocket fuel next.
yeah good idea
might as well just dump tannerite down the carb and start the thing lol
Nuclear should do the trick.
@@22cj57 Im in!
LIQIUD HYDROGEN
I can't fathom spending 80k on any bike, let alone one with a stock evo! Some people have more dollars than sense I guess....
not "some people" apparently lots of people have more $ than brains
I mean he’s catholic, what did ya expect.
Especially when most little 600 will smoke that thing.
It's the same mentality group who gave money to kylie jenner so she could be a millionaire
@@Thadude701 Billionaire
I hope you guys had good ventilation when running with the avgas, organic lead compounds are not good for your health.
Well… mankind put millions tons lead in the air for at least 100 years
You could see the one guys cheeks turning red from carbon monoxide poisoning
I was a jet engine mech in military. Unlike some think, jet-fuel isn't anymore than çleaner kerosene, or deasil. Like unrefined gas. IT will mess up your engine if it isn't reeked and restructured to use jet fuel. You must tweak the fuel mix and or your motor. Go ahead, put straight jet fuel, or aviation fuel in your car or bike while stock. You will gum up , burn up and trash the works. A mechanics nightmare.
Alcohol straight , if you don't melt the works, you may blow it.
Try experimenting with a mix of clean bonny-light oil with everclear that has been strained. Then you have a chance on a good fuel. Be sure to use goo upper parts that can withstand abuse and heat. Or you may as well pour plain kerosene down the throat and get the gumming up over fast.
But don't disrespect an old Harley or Indian v-twin, sacrilege ! Your stuff, have fun.
Everybody is first until the page refreshed
Like your style my friend. 😉👊🏻😎
No cap
Absolutely
Except for the actual 1st person lol
Can I have it
All the pilots watching this cringing just thinking about putting jet fuel in this gasoline engine? Or is it just me?
Aircraft mechanic here and yes, this is incredibly cringy. Seems like some people don't know jet fuel is just kerosene based not too dissimilar from diesel.
@BKNY FINEST it smells cleaner, and has a cleaner taste. As a mechanic I’ve had a lot of both in my face
Yep !
Another A&P here just confirming what Tyler said. Jet fuel will gum up your engine and it will not work well.
Honestly you're giving Pilots too much credit. They aren't required to be mechanically inclined.
Your "Chopper Motorcycle" ???
Yeah, thanks. That Chopper part had me Confused 😂
Jet A is simply super-refined diesel. It burns really clean so if you run it through your diesel-burning engine it'll run very clean, but less oily, so you don't want to do that all the time. Diesel is designed to lubricate parts in your intake. You put that in a gas engine and you're gonna F that thing up royally.
AV-Gas is about 120+ octane, and burns super hot in your gas piston engine and is great for keeping your innards clean if you only burn a couple gallons per tank mix w/ reg. unleaded every once in a while. it will scorch your rings if you run it straight for too long. Also you need to adjust your timing, because it doesn't burn like 87/90 gasoline.
With Methanol- you can't just pump that through your engine and expect it to behave like gasoline. It's not even close to the same.
As long as their screwing around with kerosene they should try running it on citronella. Then it will keep the bugs away.
This is why I watch your channel, Sean! I love it! Y'all are always doing some next-level crazy stuff on here! Love it! haha
Fun Fact: Diesel, Jet fuel, Jet A-Fuel, Kerosene (outdoor camping lamps and stoves) and rocket fuel (RP-1) are all one family of fuels
WRONG!
White gas (camp fuel) is NOT kerosene!
@@daryllect6659 I didn't speak about white gas, I know that white gas is Coleman fuel. I was speaking about kerosene which is used in a lot of countries for camping and heating
I was going to suggest throwing a little premix in when I heard those 'dry cylinders.' That was before the insanely low compression figures. Wonder what it was beforehand... Can't believe after all that money and 'custom work' that they would run a STOCK h.p. motor.. Why?!?! I used to make my own homebrew race gas by mixing toluene with some 93. You can get it at a store like Sherwin Williams. There is a chart floating around online somewhere with the ratios on it. This is only useful if you can tune/ advance the timing to make use of it and obviously it doesn't apply to everything in that sense. Otherwise it'll just keep it from pinging. In the end its cheaper than something like CAM2 or VP, but not as high in octane. You can get around 100 octane or so with the toluene/ super mix. Love the old Wurth cabinet! They make some AWESOME products. Nice pics from the scope as well. Thanks for sharing this.👍👍😁
The episode where Shawn learns that jet fuel is high grade kerosene
Or Lighter fluid... Diesel fuel.. Charcoal lighter fluid... yup yup..
It's filtered diesel, use 110 AvGas!
Perhaps in the next episode he will learn that you can use kerosene and/or gum spirits (pure turpentine) as a type of cure-all for a variety of health problems. A teaspoon of gum spirits will nuke parasites and many other bugs that may be in your body without harming your own cells or anything else. Kerosene in 1 tsb to 1 tbsp doses can quickly cure a variety of ailments that so-called "modern medicine" claims are uncurable or have harsh treatments that will cause side-effects that are about as bad as the ailment itself.
Yup
Why would someone try to run kerosene in a gas engine.
You make me pumped for this riding season.
Yeah me too, tomorrow i will try to start the motorcycle first time after 5 months...
Lol its 78 degrees right now for me. Riding season until summer for me
Spring is coming!
Ten your old me was the biggest OCC fan. I had the toys,shirts, even got the OCC pedal bike for Christmas. So i will give them credit for getting me into all things mechanical. So ill still show them love . Even if there stuff is muxh more for static display over performance
American chopper was an amazing show though, just to look how they work, someone I know always told me Choppers are show pieces just to stand there look pretty, and this video and the last one proved that point xD
It's like the pimp my ride bullcrap they pulled, looks cool but mechanically just garbage.
I really hope the OCC guys will see this
I remember how awkward it was when the original owner asked them to make the “Corporal Punishment” seat. Perhaps the most homoerotic moment in a long series of highly homoerotic moments for OCC.
I never thought about it, but it was a bit homoerotic
Almost Top Gun level😉😅
Looks like be great for winter on 50/50 mix keep your foot nice and warm
Awesome vid,thanks for taking the time and expense to do this,I always preferred Jesse James,West Coast Choppers,surprised the old evo hung on so long,obviously at the time built to look at more than ride,cheers,best wishes frm Auckland,New Zealand,🛵🚲🛴👍🧨🙂😉
Did any of the Tuttle’s chime in in the comment section?
An OCC chopper is still a better value than one of Hunter’s paintings! ROFL
Hunter is probably getting a few million per painting in China.
@@drmachinewerke1 Yeah, it's a great way to launder your bribe money for the big guy.
Easy there my friend… easy..
@@hunterbidenscrackdealer3753 😂😂😂
I'm a army (Gulf War)veteran and would love one of those bikes, I still own a 2004 Harley sportster 883. I'm sad since you just chunk them, can you donate to a good cause. lol God Bless, I've been watching you guys for years. Though I can only grow a gooo Teee. I'm jealous. Be safe my brothers. You guys rock.
AVGAS has LEAD (LL = LowLead) ! Dont breathe the exhaust fumes!😳
7:20 is like when you watched your dad talk to another dad about something you dont understand and you just stand there listening
During the compression stroke of the engine (due to physical laws) the temperature of the combustion mixture increases. Due to a certain octane number, the gasoline does not burn spontaneously until the spark plug ignites the mixture.
Diesel engines have a fundamental different injection system. Jet fuel is chemically close to diesel and will run well in diesel engines, but really not well in a gasoline engine.
Correct. JP fuel smells like kerosene. It's not for gasoline engines. I'm a jet engine tech for many years.
@@dawor1761 jp and dfo have identical flash and ignition temps
Try the 2 cycle Ttufuel. It's high Octane and a mix for the cylinder Lubrication for the rings. After those runs might be a good idea to change the Oil.
Something I think most people get wrong about OCC bikes is that they were built for SHOW and not necessarily to be ridden. They were designed to sit and look purdy from a distance of about 10ft.
"So we dumped kerosene in there" wasn't as good of a title, eh? Also, the number of folks in this thread that don't understand that Octane is the measurement of the RESISTANCE to burning is too high.
He click baited the title. Just using avgas.
@@KJ-kw7gh na, they dumped kerosene in there.
@@KJ-kw7gh
JP1 is not avgas.
It's avgas, they say it in the vid. It would have never started on jet fuel. No preheating or atomizing on that engine.
@@KJ-kw7gh Maybe watch the video around the 8:00 mark. Kerosene will run in a gasoline engine. Tractors did it decades ago.
i put racing fuel and my push lawn mower. i could hear the rpms picking way up i was so excited. then bam connecting rod went through the side lol
Lol
I laughed too hard at this
Thank you from the UK 👍👍
Avgas LL100 has a higher anti-knock power than gas normally on the market. For this reason it's possible to stand a higher compression ratio and getting as a result more power. Burning LL100 without any modification offers little help
As a pilot, the very *thought* of trying to run jet fuel in a piston engine (or gasoline in a turbine) makes me very uncomfortable. The NTSB database is full of wrong-fuel fatal aviation accidents. Smart pilots *always* either fuel their own aircraft or supervise the person doing it for them. I recently read one report where Jet-A was loaded into an older aircraft with turbocharged piston engines by a line fueler who, mistakenly, thought the aircraft had turbines. For quite some time, the FAA has required that fuel inlets have different throat sizes and that fuel nozzles have matching spouts for the correct fuel to prevent this sort of thing. The typical accident profile has the airplane taxiing and beginning takeoff on the good fuel and then abruptly losing power on takeoff as it is exhausted which is a nightmare scenario with low survivability.
Yeah, I've been in Aviation as Mechanic, Pilot and Aircraft Owner for over 40 yrs. This is a clowns show. There isn't anyone in the room that understands why to choose different fuels or different octanes. We (meaning the US) were burning 140/145 purple gas in WWII, no one else had it. This is one of the reasons that our supercharged aircraft could go higher, fly faster and last longer than the Germans or the Japanese. One of the main reasons that the P-51 Mustang is still one of the most respected aircraft in history.
av gas an diesel fuel have the same ignition point you can run it in diesel engines if you add some lubricant. av is kerosine based. you can run av gas in any gasoline engine it just runs lean if you dont rejet a carb.. fuel injected engines run just fine on av gas. jet fuel and avgas are two entiretly different things. avgas was designed for radial piston engines. theyre not using Avtur here.
@sali gandu Your internal body temp is 98.6 already.
@sali gandu Just never drink any jet fuel or you'll self combust.
Yep not a whole lot of actual knowledge going on here my friend you will find that happens a lot when the goal is entertainment this channel has a lot more in common with OCC then I think they even realize
"Jet fuel" is high grade diesel fuel, NOT AvGas !!!
kerosine , not diesel
@@simonvanegten7444 Exactly, JP is kerosine.
we used to use f34 and jet A1 on my planes
@@simonvanegten7444 Kerosene is a kind of diesel. You'll often see kerosene or a kerosene-diesel blend just called diesel #1 or winter diesel, versus diesel #2, or standard diesel. Jet fuel is just a narrow cut, very pure diesel fuel.
@@simonvanegten7444 diesel and kerosene are almost the same thing. So is jp5 and Jp 8.
Jet A is basically something between #1 diesel and kerosene. I know a guy who accidentally filled up with diesel in his twin cam and cracked the top off both pistons. Don't exactly know why but it did.
Try mixing Toluene with Gasoline (50% Toluene, 50% Premium Gasoline). This will give a significant boost in horse power and may be a little less expensive than jet fuel.
I like your show. Keep up the great work. 😃
Daniel in WA State.
its so awesome how fast your channel has grown this past year.
Demonstrating that more “motorcycle” people know SFA about engines and how they work. Refined Jet A-1 otherwise known as refined diesel in a gasoline burning engine? Dummies.
yeah the race gas was a stupid idea too people think you can put 110 octane in a stock bike and gain power not understanding that high octane fuel burns cooler and is used in modified engines because they need the cooler burning stable fuel.
It's diesel and kerosene.... High octane fuel is for higher compression engines, meaning 11+
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Agree to all...a very dumb video.
@@Trumplican yeh what you said
Exhaust flames on tie down strap, brilliant.
I enjoy these videos. I’ve always wanted a bike. Maybe one day I’ll get one. You pick the best verses. I enjoy that most!! Come lord Jesus, be our guest in our hearts.
I know nothing about bikes but I enjoyed the show because the bikes looked so cool to me. Here in the UK we just don't see choppers anywhere. I always thought the bikes looked flimsy though like the weren't engineered to a high quality especially the fancy decor. Now I am shocked that the devalued so much. They must of made massive bucks during the craze...lol
They’re bankrupt now lmao
@@i-vlog1994 I'm sure they are all millionaires for private funds. They won't be collecting food stamps just yet...lol
they cashed in heavily on the bush era patriot bullshit
It was a fad nationally. The interest in choppers is now gone. the Fad really died around 2009 when the economy was hitting rock bottom due to the housing crash.
My 61st birthday is today and I get a Bikes and Beards video to celebrate. Also, a bible verse, thank you Bikes and Beards.
I've run AV gas in my 1975 BMW R90. It's OK to do that if you're running hard with a high egt. In fact it's a little better for the valves and seats. But jet fuel is kerosene with some anti mist and anti cold gel additives. It's not good. In the 1920s gas often had kerosene in it. Model T Fords did OK with it.
I am so glad I couldn't afford a OCC bike back when they were on TV, it's simply obvious they build trash. Now that I can afford a custom Chopper I am going to Count Kustoms, Shannon Aikau builds a real man's bike.
Jet fuel is essentially kerosene, IIRC, and
alcohol makes an engine run really really lean, you have to give it a lot of fuel. Burt Munroe found out the hard way at Bonneville, burned several pistons (or so I read).
Wait there is gonna be a Harbor freight motorcycle video
That sounds sick
They've already released that one. you should search for it. It's fun
@@dickiedanger ok thanks
Semaj Nawoc yea man that’s a n old video they put a cr500 in a Harley too
AvGas is basically high grade diesel. I'm speaking of jet fuel you can put jp8 in a f-18 hornet and then also fill up your Humvee
""The nectar of the gods"" I love it! 🤣
Which 2 stroke golden spectral mix and diesel fuel is the real choice of the gods! Lol
I know a guy that bought a OCC chopper the welds was shit and even the engine wasn't what they said it was they are frauds
Jet fuel is basically kerosene... this won’t end well. 😂
Or Lighter fluid... Diesel fuel.. Charcoal lighter fluid... yup yup..
Right? I cant believe these Dyno guys didn’t know that it’s basically Diesel fuel lol.
🤦 the internet is full of idiots that 'know everything'... This is why smart people stop correcting you...
here in Brazil alcohol is a common fuel and can be found in every gas station: most injection cars and some bikes are "flex", you can use [and mix in every proportion] gasoline and alcohol (biggest bikes aren't flex, though, and I don't know why).
As far as I know, alcohol needs 30% more fuel compared with gasoline: it means 30% more open time for injection engines or 30% bigger jet size for carburetor engines (worth to mention that brazilian gas already contains at least about 25-30% of alcohol).
Alcohol is slightly more powerful than gasoline.
I used to watch this show back when, and I did think it was odd that a show about custom buildings things, used so many parts made elsewhere. I think 25% of any episode, was them making the fuel tank, the only real major custom part.
Used to work at an FBO. I'd pull my bike onto the tarmac and throw 100LL in it all the time. Smells awesome, runs more efficiently, better for your engine, and it doesn't contain ethanol do your seals don't get rotted. Used to have guys buy it all the time for their snowblowers in the winter because it's way better than gas.
I'm at the beginning and I'm guessing this is some sort of joke because jet fuel is kerosene. Aviation gas for piston engine airplanes is the real deal though.
Yeah but with av gas they have additives to combat against high altitude fuel line freeze & carburetor freezing on carburetor equipped engines so what these guys missed was they should have rejetted the carburetor for the dyno pulls being the gravity of the fuel is so much different from not only 92 octane pump gas but different as well from 100+ octane race fuel used in cars for drag racing . I knew the jet fuel wouldn't work good because I know some modified turbo diesel tractor pullers out by me that run in the open modified class where just about anything goes for engine modifications as well as fuel & they are mixing diesel and jet fuel & are claiming more power with it as a power adder . Alcohol could have been good as well but it sounded like they didn't have big enough jets for it to run on & often times when dealing from gasoline to alcohole you have to jet up 4 sizes or more or it won't run good or run lean to a point it could hole a piston especially if the piston is only a cast & not forged . I couldn't see what carburetor they were using & from the sounds of it , it was probably a factory keihin CV carburetor which doesn't have the jetting ranges or jets sizes compared to a S&S drag carburetor or the Mikuni which are more tunable or can have a 3rd fuel circuit added by the use of a Thunder jet conversion for racing purposes .
@@peteloomis8456 and that 100 LL is LOADED with lead.
I have an MCC Street Monster chopper , hardtail, 124" S&S. Rode it 7 hrs to Sturgis back in 07. It's fun to be young and dumb. Tge bike is a beast though. OCC didn't like it ( I think because it didn't come with tassels) lol. Jesse James & Exile Choppers, Indian Larrys guys and Billy liked it though.
Have you ever trayed laquar thinner..I did on a big block 442 dodge...wow
" yea there is deffinatly more " even if you pulled another 20 hp out of it, it still will not be as fast as the persons ego rideing it
You mean the guy wearing the affliction T shirt and true religion jeans ? 😜
11:43 that guy was so happy, his "Yaay" was not appreciated, got super awkward and walked out of the frame. I could feel his burn inside 🤣
Wow what a bonus the Revtek motor and Baker transmission
So whats wrong with an EVO motor? I've got one on my chopper. If 65hp cant get the job done on a 600 pd bike or so then there is a problem. I mean just how fast are you wanting to go on a bike?
Just started the video and I can tell you how this is gonna turn out. Racing alcohol will make less power unless you advance the timing significantly and increase the jetting. AV gas will make the most power but probably not much different than regular gas unless you advance the timing. Jet fuel is kerosine, It will absolutely not make more power.
I've had a lot of kids bragging that their car runs on jet fuel over the years. I just point out that my tractor does, as well.
@@jameswhite1910 thats so correct!
They went in to kill the EVO but EVOs never say die.
The higher octane the slower the gas Burns producing more pressure and pushing the Pistons down low compression means the gas almost explodes and then the Pistons got to fall down this was a stupid thing but on the internet my hats are off to you got a good laugh anyhow
I religiously run 50/50 av gas and 95 pump and it makes my bikes run cleaner,start easier and idle nicer so I'm a big fan of mixed,tried many different octane boosters to mimic effect of av gas n can't,nz can be tricky to get av gas sometimes tho