Fixing The Recoil On A Craftsman 4 Cycle Trimmer
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Thanks for watching. This Craftsman 4 cycle trimmer was given away, with some major issues, and here's why, you should avoid it.
Yes sir i have worked on those craftsman 4 cycle trimmers before and yes it was the recoil pawls that was a common problem, i am a 2 cycle fan, they are lighter, more powerful and more robust. Echo is my favorite trimmer, excellent video and fix,
thank you Matthew Piper.
no problem i consider you a friend.
I really do appreciate that.
No problem you and i are on the same team !
6:05 man you are full of tricks, never would've thought of using the drill
lol.. I was going to use my vise grips, and I remembered that, I've been watching too many videos on the internet, so I figured I'd try their trick.
The value in these 4 stroke head units lays with the attachments. The tiller attachment's really a killer, does a dang good job. So if you come upon one of these be sure to check for any attachments they may have that go with it.
thank you letting us know Monkeybar Monneyman.
Wow good save on having the proper used parts machine!! Cool removal of the shaft with the drill chuck. I wouldn't of thought of doing that. Prob one day in the future it will need a carb cleaning.
yes I believe you are right, and thank you D4x4Bronc.
if I found that on the curb I would have to pass on it 2 strokes are just better
I feel the same way.
Yes very true HG. I am not to keen on 4 stroke trimmers or blowers for that same reason. Too Heavy. Thanks for the good video. 👍
You bet Steven Chandler, thanks for watching.
I'll stick with my 25 year old 2 cycle Echo trimmer. Thanks for your time.
Me to A Patterson.
Good job brother.. seems to run well too.. good fix on the recoil..
I appreciate your time Mick, I know how important is to you.
Thanks for the detailed views. My Craftsman E Z Pul vintage 2017 is the same trimmer. My problem was it partly locked up due to some trimmer string that got into the cooling air vent in the front, wrapped itself around the front crankshaft and got snagged into the magneto (I know - HOW did that happen?). Vigorous pull starting on my part eventually BENT the pawl posts and cracked the plate, which is unobtanium by itself.
It had been a good runner for 5 years.
PS - anyone reading this that has a spare plate, let me know.
I totally agree with you . The recoil on those is terrible and they are heavy.
I know right, they are the absolute worts design.
no wouldn't keep it, this Craftsman one is made by MTD (Made To Die) I think , MTD has some ok stuff, and my own trimmer is a Murray m2510 made by MTD, its been ok for me and on its 4 or 5 season. only problem I have had is replacing bump knob retainer and throttle cable.
definitely would make a different choice, than to keep this one.
I would put the engine in a radio controlled vehicle & set it up with electric start, along with using a different fan assembly.
now that's an idea
It might just be a trick of the camera, but the closeup of the original fan showing the posts that the pawls live on looked like the metal was bent slightly toward the engine side tilting the posts out of parallel with the shaft. This might have contributed to the wearing of the mounts and hastened failure of the part.
you are correct the posts need to be bent back.
Well I have an older model Craftsman 4 cycle trimmer and it is on the heavy side. My recoil is a bit different and so far have not had those type of problems--probably should have not said that. It is heavy but quite powerful and does a great job. I can not use for long and must take a break. But I am 78 so I do not have the strength I used to have. Thanks for the videos. And yes I would like to have a lighter one to use for sure.
thank you D Butler for the information
I also have a Craftsman 4 cycle trimmer, it's been with me for 5 years,and NEVER EVER gave me trouble because I do maintenance on it...it's a 26 cc engine
great video i had a similar trimmer this past summer
what did you think about it?
Love your videos! I've been learning how to fix my own equipment and your content had been exceedingly helpful, but my 2021 Craftsman WS405 has me stumped!
It was dying on idle, but ran fine at high throttle, so I adjusted the only screw on the carb which just made it idle a little higher, which worked for a time until it just stopped completely mid-job.
I removed and cleaned the carb and discovered there is no air filter installed on my trimmer, and the screen had debris clogging it. After reassembling, it started and idled well, but now dies on high throttle. I'm getting frustrated with it and any advice would be appreciated!
sure, at this point, I would replace the Carb, as it's proving to be somewhat problematic.
I would also pass on it. If l wanted to use a heavier trimmer it would be my echo 2620. I have a 20 year old Cub cadet trimmer that is light and runs well, perfect for small quick yards!
thank you Ethan Miller.
Had one exactly like this. Recoil broke after 2 uses and I fixed it but it never stated fixed and from then on it was for parts
I know how you feel.
Good thing is that you got it for free otherwise I will say hopefully this design has fixed in the newer ones 😎
Yeah me too, thank you Robert Mailhos
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE 👍😎
I have the troy bilt 32 cc version. And after replacing the plastic paws twice, said f*** that. Got the electric starter for the back. Been using it for years without any other issues.
It is heavy, but I can manage. I hate mixing gas with a passion. So I'll keep it over 2 cycle trimmers.
great choice!
Oooh, someone got a new drill
lo.. yes sir. the other one, didn't last very long.
I have one of those trimmer,unable to figure out the fuel line routing,it has three fuel lines going to the purge bulb instead of two.
I have a different video from last year, that shows the routing.
Great video
Thanks!
I have a Troy Bilt 635ec sitting around with the same motor, but a different tail housing. One tabs is missing and I can't find "just the tabs" for sale anyplace.
good luck, they don't really support these anymore.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I saw that
🤕
I have the 32cc version with aluminum shaft, strong machine but to heavy compared to the Hitachi I found in the thrash and fixed with like $20
nice haul, been looking for an Hitachi.
I'd pass on that one and the Featherlite jobs is what we had before the Kobalt but they were OLD and 2nd hand. GBWYou!
Where did u buy the broken parts from?and is there any part number?I do have the same machine,with the same exact problem
they came from a part trimmer, that I already had.
Had a Troy Bilt version of this before I knew any better. Ended up getting the drill adapter because the starter pawls were junk. Then the carb acted up. I was done and threw it on the bone pile.
I feel you, these are very troublesome.
Love the videos, I’m having a strange issue with a Honda mower I have. Seems to run perfectly fine but when engaging the blade clutch the engine dies and then won’t start again until it’s cold. And ideas on where you would start with that?
let me get this straight, so the blades engage, and without running for very long, the mower stops? the engine and the blades, don't have to "work" for very long at all? have you tried to spin the blade by hand? because on the model you have, sometimes the bearings for the clutch system, will seize up.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I think that may be the case yeah, the engine runs perfect, as soon as the blades try to engage it dies. The blades are hard to turn by hand so will look into the bearings. The hot starting issue may be something completely unrelated
let me know what you find.
I'd take it I've got one that runs great but I don't have a working second half for it
hope you find one
That’s my insight on 4 cycle trimmers. They’re heavy and run like crap.
you got that right.
A good fix on that recoil but I agree with you if it over 14 lb it's not kind of worth it to have it
I hear that, thank you Turningwrenches85
I have an older Craftsmans weedeater 4 stroke model 316.791970. Is the Klein T25 Journeyman the only tool to use to remove its clutch drum? Cannot borrow one and too expensive to buy on Amazom. Every T25 I tried, including Dewalt's Flextorx t25, is just too thick to place in the shaft. Thanks Steve
no it's smaller than the t25. I think it's around T10 or T15.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Thanks for reply. Somewhere on Utube I saw the same drum and model and T25 was stated to remove this clutch drum. Will try smaller if I have one long enough. Just recently, read about these 4 stroke Craftsman weed eaters (in comments), and I seem to have had the most usage--weekly usage too over years, and problem free --until now with the pull rope. Wondering now what I have under that clutch drum Wish to see if just my pawls can be replaced or the entire unit (753-05832) is worth paying the bucks for. Super thanks.....
good luck with it.
I prefer 2 cycle weed eaters over 4 cycle weed eaters because 4 cycle weed eaters are heavier, but nice fix on The Recoil
thank you Braden Henderson, I do to
Do you have any recommendations for aftermarket airbox's? I've been trying to find some but there doesn't seem to be many options
if you mean for this particular model of trimmer? If so, your best bet is to find a used one instead, and not an aftermarket one.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE nah just one in general. For weed Wackers actually. It seems like they all have relatively the same layout across brands. For how many times I've seen people throw them on the ground I'm surprised there isn't a market of general no name air box
sorry it doesn't work like that, there is not a "general" or universal air filter air, that I've found. If you find one, tho, I'd be interested in knowing about it too.
Had this trimmer and it was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. Went through 3 of them on 24 months. Cooling fan disintegrated on the first (lasted 1 year), the recoil starter quit working on the 2nd and 3rd ( had 2nd 1 1/2 months and had the 3rd 1 month). All were within the 2 year manufacturers warranty and Sear replaced the 1st and 2nd but refused to replace the 3rd. I showed my butt in the store and almost got the police called on me. Last thing i said as I was leaving the store l, in a very loud voice was that I now knew why they were going out of business because there products and the customer service was crap. A privately owned Sears Hometown Store in another town made it right for me. Only run a 2 cycle model now.
thank you for you sharing your experience Chad Johnson.
Gracias broder
No hay problema
that's a big NOPE from me. lol, i definitely would've left that sucker right on the curb. That trash that MTD makes is awful! it's so cheaply made, it's not even worth fixing most of the time. Older MTD stuff from the 80s & 90s is questionable, but from the 00's on, it's not worth it at all. I worked on a Bolens trimmer one time, and there were so many things wrong with it, I told the guy to throw it away, and go buy a new one. Also, these cheap 4 strokes are like 15 lbs & that's gonna get super heavy carrying it around the yard all day! Another great video, my man! thank you!
Thank you Jacob Feather, I appreciate your time.
I don't really care for those style trimmers either, nice work fixing it though, it's great to have spare parts on hand or a parts machine to take parts off of.
I know right? I thought they were nice to look at, Until I tried one, and then worked on one, That changed my mind.
I could say it's a poorly designed rope starting... I have one very similar to the one seen in the video but its a 2019 design, which means it doesn't have the starting issues showed in the video... Dare to say is a very well designed one
really, glad to see they made some good changes.
hey man why its bogging down and not wanting to rev for a good min is because the carb is gummed up with ethanol so you gotta use wd40, seafoam, mystery oil, or fuel lube to free the carb i sprayed a little bit of wd40 into my troy bilt and it ran better than ever but craftsman just use there tools dont buy there weedeaters unless there an older two stroke
This video reminds me if you remember the there is a trimmer that starts with T in this channel it was a old video in the video the engine broken you remember that?. It looks like a copy of it
you mean troybilt?
Yep the one that broke
It looks similar
very similar
I prefer my Stihl straight shaft FS56 trimmer.
I would too, that's a nice trimmer.
Hell no bro. I would pass this trimmer like a bus. The heaviest trimmer I've used is a Stihl 500 trimmer and that use to have my back under pressure bro.
I hear that.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I'm a slim tall guy so when it comes to big heavy machines like those bro, I try to keep away from them. I rather use a lighter machine and take twice as long to complete the work but at the end of the day I'm sure that my back will get an ease up.
my coil was not chaching on my xl12
that's a shame.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE it dose run and i claned it and how cloud i get it to chach reset the gap
not sure on that model
Maybe for me.
did you ever weigh the honda?
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE not sure yet.
this particular trimmer is made by MTD Products - this is a common problem along with the fan's getting bent and 9/10 times on unit's under warranty MTD will not repair as it is not cost effective - i can't say exactly how the warranty process works as it's confidential between the company and dealers.
thanks for the information
I would pass on it too. I’d just use my weed eater trimmer in stead
thank you for your time William Piwish.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE your welcome
Working on a w s 2200 Craftsman recoil string. These things are crap it's like they design them not to work I got this weed eater for free because the guy was tired of messing with it I can see why he only used it five times before The recoil quit working
yes these are not quality machines
Well to be honest with you you the guy come by my house and had four of these and wanted to give give them to me he said I could have them and keep them for parts and I refuse to take them I said no you can take them and throw them in the junk I don't I don't sell these weed eaters I mean I can't even sell these weed eaters. At all not even for 15-20 bucks and they're just they're crap Craftsman really outdone their self on this one this is exactly why Craftsman products and machinery is not very good anymore because they make junk like that but if you never have problems with him they're not bad weed eaters they're good for you inside yards or trimming around fences but like he said they're extremely too heavy and they always have problems once you have a problem one time with them you'll continue to have problems with them throughout the whole time you having them best thing to do is spend a little bit more money trimmer and be done with it but good fix
I know how you feel.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yeah here lately I've been getting a lot of these to work on and they had been literally easy fixes you know just needed a oil changed or some fuel lines put on there or something like that but the last five of them that I worked on had problems with the week the heads the trimmer heads they growl real bad because they don't have desserts and I am celebrity and put some mystic grease in it and they stop growling and whining
nice work!
I have absolutely no interest in a 4 stroke trimmer as they are just too heavy! Plus unless they are a split shaft like that one, you can’t edge with them. I have a Craftsman 2 stroke split shaft trimmer with the same electric start feature. Unfortunately it needs a carb but I haven’t had time to repair it. My favorite is my Shindaiwa because it is so lightweight. I can hold it one handed with my arm fully extended to reach out over the lake without wearing me out.
I hear that.
I'd pass n it due to its weight alone.
me too Mike Jones.
It’s a crappy Troy Built design. That’s why there is the speed start, but the bit is $11.00
thanks for the price, I wasn't sure how much it was.
I fixed one and those springs are cheap
Cheap made
yes they are
Honestly if you want a 4 cycle trimmer, than you should just get one that’s walk behind. These things are just too heavy and unreliable
very true
'Craftsman'
the only good 4 cycle trimmers out there is honda and makita. thats it.
yes and I've got them too.
I wouldn't want it, the recoil looks cheap made
you are correct, the springs for the pawls are weak.
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thank you RoBB's Mind.
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Sadly cheap junk, i'm getting fed up messing with cheap garden products, where you can nor allways get the spare parts if they are needed, they are built as a throw away item. Nothing is built to last and be serviced any more, which is false economy in my book .
I completely agree with you Alan Lake.
@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I left school in 1975, and did a 4 year apprenticship on repairing lawn equiptment , I left in 1980, as i was fed up with the cheap throw away mind set on some stuff, I only mess about now for fun , but the quality has not improved, In fact I got a small bsa 220cc engine built before i was born in 1957, cleaned the points, carb and ground the valve in ( but they were very pitted and worn ) just managed 70psi compression , guess what the engine started 1st pull and ran well . I totally get why you prefer to just replace the carburetton on a strimmer, as its not really worth the time stripping it out changing diaphragms etc, as that does not always work .
I really appreciate you sharing your small engine experience, It means a lot to me, knowing you're in the comments, and giving your advice.
They are junk
thank you Doug Puckett
I will not like that one, this is why I returned my Craftsman a couple years ego, heavy and hard to start
I would have done the same thing, heavy is one thing, hard to start is another, Combine them both, and it's a return visit to get my money back.