5 things I Hate About Yamaha MT-10
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5 things I Hate About Yamaha MT-10
In this video I talk about the top 5 things I dislike about my Yamaha FZ-10 / MT-10. By no means do I hate this bike, but there are things I quite dislike about. Things such as the seat, throttle, gas tank/gauge and many more are things I will talk about in this video.
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The flat spot/delay in the throttle is caused by you swapping to a decat mid pipe, this is correctable with a tune (please get a dyno tune over a flash tune, it’s more adjustable and better suited to variations from bike to bike) in all honesty you are missing out on so much of the bike by not having it tunned. My bike was actually slower when I deleted the cat, I had to ride it for 2 months before I could get it tunned. After the tune on the dyno - night and day better bike.
I had the same issue on a stock mt10. Feels like some dead spot in the middle of the throttle.
Also, the seat was so hard and unpleased and felt like a wooden plank even seats on superbikes are not that bad.
The fuel gauge is odd and unreliable, you can be riding in "full tank" but in a second it jumps to half, and 10mins later the fuel light turns on, why Yamaha even bothered to put it in the first place.
I hated everything about the bike beside the engine character so I traded in for 2018 r1 and I'm much happier.
@@Fearless154 The odd gauge is due to the shape of the tank, the fuel level gauge can't got to the top of the tank due to that odd size, so it doesn't read change until half a tank - you should be reset the trip every refill anyway - that gets you a better idea (I have always done that on every bike I've owned even ones with awesome fuel gauges - just habbit) . Original seat was shit, got the dealer to chuck in a comfort one.
and by the sounds of it, it just wasn't for you. You're the first person I've heard to go to an R1from the MT-10, most people go the other way with zerp regret.
100% correct- damn why people so dumb - know whats up on a bike- idiots out there- no clue
2 brothers tuned exhaust + remap..
Also givi tankring tankbag for the win
You have removed the catalyst so the bike will be running lean possibly causing the throttle delay, a remap will fix it and if you get a custom map done on a dyno then the tuner can customise the throttle response for you because of the ride by wire.
On mine it didn't make the fuel consumption worse, or better, she was still a greedy bike.
It's already getting remapped I'll have an update video soon :)
It loses low end when you open up the exhaust but gains a little high end. If you put a baffle in and make sure it's sealed up as tight as possible it will run almost like with the cat with no tune. The exup valve really does make torque down low.
@@TURBOTWINKIE when the update coming and break down on the mods would be awesome and the cost. Love the video. Thinking about buying one 👌
@@fatsheppors8589 I already uploaded the ECU flash video for this bike, in terms of parts however, that's coming this spring I still have a lot to install.
@@TURBOTWINKIE. Looking forward to the full update. Thanks I’ll have a look 👍
I just jumped off a 2016 zx10r ninja for a 2019 mt10.............. The MT10 is an absolute blast. Smiles for miles. My ninja was modified making 210bhp, my MT 10 is making 160 and its giving me much more on road! Highly recommend.
After you ridiculously complained about that gap and the seat not seating firmly, I almost clicked away, thinking this was a parody video, but your point about the gas gauge and throttle response were legit.
back and a oil cooler radiator guard..large tank bag on the rack, small magnetic bag on the tank..I drilled a hold in the tank filler for a air vent to speed up filling all the way to the top of the tank, added 20 miles to the range!! I was tired after7 hours of riding but not terrible, my longest day was around 707 miles according to Google maps.. fun trip. Bike performed FLAWLESSLY!!!great machine.. just passed 6500 miles.. oh ,, got pilot road 5s just before I left..
Battlleaxes for the win, the only tyre designed to be used with the 10
Thats how inline 4 motors run. you ever rode a super sport ? you feel. the power in the 8 rpm -10 rpm and that feels like it hits your face . lol your bike is fast, you haven't mastered it yet. You have plenty of POWER right now!
off the line from low RPMS you got nothing then it wakes up... that is I4s... rev it out
On these particular bikes (MT 09 and MT-10) the power delivery is on the lower part, so you get a huge surge from 0 to about 100 mph basically smoking other bikes that are opposite because they start slower and their higher power delivery kicks in about 100 mph which is more suited for track. So technically you shouldn't have any delay when taking off, maybe on the freeway at 100 or higher you might not feel the bike that responsive...
you literally have no idea what the dude in the video said about the response, right? It might even be cause he changed exhaust and never tuned it. Its not always the ''wrong and right rpm''.
MT-10 is the flagship bike.. simple the best and safest bike in 2023, and at 300 kmh not many can even get close 😊
I've got 800 miles on mine that I bought 6 weeks ago. The only things I agree with you on are the throttle and fuel gauge. My other gripes are the fuel capacity, stock mirrors, stock seat (I hate how it slopes down towards the tank) and the oil filter draining onto the exhaust.
My seat is rock steady and doesn't move at all. It's a 2019. I think a lot of the throttle lag comes from removing the cat and exup valve without a flash. I've got a Hindle 3/4 on mine. I think Yamahas eco thing it does at cruise adds to the throttle problem. My last gripe is the on/off throttle response. It's very instant, moreso when the bike is cold.
I'm planning on getting the 2WDW flash for it this winter.
I bought my Mt 10 June 20th, just got back from a 3200 mile road trip, Seattle to Denver and back again.. before I left I did a cat delete ( black widow mid pipe ) left the stock end can on it, looks good to me? Got a ecu flash from 2wdw, there only 20 miles from me ! Nice guys.. put a Puig Turing screen on it, it wasn't enough, so I added a spoiler screen, still not enough, so I need a taller spoiler out of some Plexi I had..!.. made it so my head was just out of the wind blast. Corbin seat, it's ok, made a rack for the back and a oil cooler radiator guard..large tank bag on the rack, small magnetic bag on the tank..I drilled a hold in the tank filled for a air vent to speed up filling all the way to the top of the tank, added 20 miles to the range!! I was tired after7 hours of riding but not terrible, my longest day was around 707 miles according to Google maps.. fun trip. Bike performed FLAWLESSLY!!!great machine.. just passed 6500 miles.. oh ,, got pilot road 5s just before I left..
CP4 doesn't like decat without a tune. Hope you did it in the meantime.
I do have the same problem, but i love the powerful of the bike , mine is fz-07
Headlight that cracks is a problem. My 2018 began to crack after 2000km. Got it replaced under warranty and just Before I sold it I saw new cracks at 7000km. They cost 900 eur to replace if you have to do it without warranty. And headlight protectors dont help becouse they crack from the inside not from external things hitting it.
@Danny War Robots Ive not heard any explanations from Yamaha. Some countries have more issues than others it seems. Mine cracked both times under the colder part off the seson for me. Maybe that could be one off the explanations.
@Danny War Robots well you have always the risk off small rocks and things hitting the lenses. I would recomend lens covers. You can buy them for 20 bucks and they come in different collours also. Then you have done all you can do.
A few of the same items made my 'what I hate about my MT10' vid. The seat mechanism is a bit rubbish but for me the size of the fuel tank is just too small for a bike with such a thirst. Had mine nearly 4 years and 22,000 miles and it's been super reliable. Still a great bike
dude you think its bad on fuel should check the vmax now there is a pig on fuel economy but sure has balls
Great content as always, thanks!
Gotta say really surprised fit and finish is coming up for yamaha, but great you shared! I think the polarising looks and empty-10 status are often talked about but never seens someone talk about the size of their gap before
LIGHTING! I am very concerned about the teeny-tiny LED single headlight. I live in a busy traffic area, and I think no one will see you coming, especially the many, many DEER in my region! Any thought?
I’d like to to tell you for the 1000th time that the delay in throttle can be fixed with ecu flash. Incase you didn’t read it a thousand times already
Not sure if the yamaha has it but my beemer has an extra tube on the filler neck that won't allow to fully filly the tank. It's so you don't accidentally flood the carbon canister. I removed my canister as well as the tube and can get several liters extra in the tank, about 30-50 miles further range depending on how I'm riding.
Not much to complain about. A bigger tank would be nice though. Great machine heaps of torque. Best affordable naked bike 23k in NZ. 25K for the SP. The Super Duke R cost 35k. Who can afford that. The MT is high performance machine. High octane fuel and the right map, your only issue is keeping the front on the ground. Turn off traction control if you dare. Every person is a different shape and size and if you don't set your bike up for you size you won't get the best out of your machine. Try driving a vehicle after another person without moving the seat of steering wheel. A motorcycles the same. Ride safe!
Flush cowling would lead to scratching the tank, sounds like you're nitpicking things to cry about
Did you ever figure out the throttle issue?
Bring more MT10 videos, dream bike!
Will do!
Look up Veryfastboi. His riding is 🔥
These bikes should not be costing as much as a new car. I doubt that it costs $28,000 to produce an R1M. No i did not just find out how much bikes cost. Im just saying its robbery what these dealers are charging for new and used bikes.
I don't understand why everyone is having throttle issues when i have both the FZ09 and the FZ10, bought in 2017 brand new the same day and neither one has throttle issues.
Had mine for two years now but my throttle reaction is super instant. Not a problem there. Also, haven’t had the seat issue although that might be a matter of time... 23.000 kms so far. The handling and the engine are sooooo good though 👌🏻
love you vids man. Can't wait to see the bike and channel grow!
Appreciate it!
throttle response is due to emission regs. the ECU mapping... fairly easy fix!
How is it for tall riders? I am 193cm in height (6'4 ft), and 105 Kgs in weight (i think 230lbs). If it is not, what do you recommend?
I'm 193cm and 90kg, boot size 46eu. It fits me fine. I tested almost all the big-brand1-liter supernakeds and the best fit comfort-wise was MT10, followed by S1000R. The worst look-wise was SuperDuke 1290 gen2 - I looked on it like on kid's tricycle. What is somewhat of an issue (something you notice after a whole day in the saddle) is the steering bar pullback angle - it is always too large for shoulder width of taller people.
I've heard the throttle problem is common and is usually corrected with a flash.
Yup, I sent out the ecu, will upload an update video if I ever get it back :)
A tune would definitely help a lot of the issues you have.
The only thing I would complain is the mower noise.
The seat is not the factory seat, that is why it has a shit fit.
Love mine but they do need a few tweaks
My seat was not like yours. It looked like you just didn't open the throttle in first gear... That thing will loop in first gear in 1 second of you open it up. If it doesn't yours is broken.
I had my mt10 back in 2017 and due to the throttle issue and the seat which was very hard and unpleasant for a naked bike. I traded the bike for 2018 R1 because I loved the engine but these small issues were pissing me off.
Lol you do realize the seat is worse on the R1. And the throttle on a stock r1 in power 1 is super super twitchy.
@@davisoneill7937 Actually no the seat on the r1 is higher quality and feels nicer.
The power mode 1 is snappy but power mode 2 is smooth and easy.
It's sounds like housewife's criticism... trying to find the tiniest things to complain about.
The throttle issue can be fix by getting a ECU flash
Considering how expensive this is to comparable models, non of these issues should be there. Yamaha bikes are overpriced anyway. Even the new Tenere 700 is even more expensive than Suzuki VStrom 1000XT in Australia.
How tall are you? Im 6.5 and wondering if ill fit
Gas tank space is to stop rubbing and provides some crushability to minimise denting if tipped over. Also, try removing the tank plastics if the front centre piece were flush with the tank.
yeah rear pegs are problem... btw did you went into map reinstall? after decat and new exhaust? that may cause the throttle response
ECU Flash video should be out in couple of weeks, I will see if it fixes it :)
All the more reasons why the FZ/MT-07 is the best bike of the lineup. Not the most powerful, but absolutely the funnest and best bang for your buck. I got my red ‘15 new for $6025 USD out the door. 65 mpg, lightweight, best build quality of the bunch and enough power to have fun but not kill yourself. 👍🏻
If your not happy with the mt10? Sell it! Sound like all you're doing is crying I hate to say it everybody every manufacturer's difference find something you like maybe a moped
In 2016 I took the triumph tigersport over MT10 for the passenger access & the Triumph name🇬🇧 :
I would like to see you do a review of the 2021 Yamaha Tracer 9 GT comparing it to your MT-10. I wonder which you would prefer after riding the Tracer 9 for a while ?
You've had it for a week or two now.... "things I love" Lists get more views.
I've done the "things I love" video in the past and the dislikes video did much better. I'll do the other one in the future :)
Everyones trying to sell you a bike, its hard to find the genuine downside of a bike.
You're wrong. Its easy to see what i like. Its harder to know what i might dislike.
Bro on the mt10 mode 2 is the fastest not mode 1...
it seems to me this bike is awesome for wheelies but the vmax is more of a beast for sure.....
Sure, if all you want to do is go in a straight line. Yours is an apples to oranges comparison--two completely different kinds of motos.
Back ground music in startin????
The intro music...terrible. Had to close it
Has it got to much Moxie for your needs, maybe a Honda might suit. S&W 4 Byte.
the throttle has it's own mapping so to speak because it's fly by wire controlled. it can be adjusted to give you a 1 to 1 like a throttle cable does. I have a woolich racing flashing system for my R1 and the stock map doesn't even open the throttle to 100% for most of the RPM range. the CP4 is a fuel hog. my R1 only does 28 mpg.
I've got the same problem with my 2016 FZ-09 ''jerky throttle'' with no respond but very very very cheap on gas...i get it flash by ''Vcyclenut''...i highly recommend to get the flash by this guy...very professional and he don't take a decade to respond to the question about the flash...at the end of the line you paid for the fun...not the same bike and more powerful then it was before. Cheers from east coast canada
Thanks for the comment, I sent out the ecu to 2WDW people say they are very experienced in mt10’s the package just crossed the borders and that took 2 weeks. Not sure how long it will take for it to get back 😭
TURBO TWINKIE i feel you probably soon enough you’ll get it...it took me 2 week to get it back from Forth Myers FL with shipping!!! Trust me...didn’t feel the same with the flash you gonna enjoy it for sure ! Cheers from east coast canada 🇨🇦
5 things i hate about MT 10
First : i don't have it .
I bought my MT10 a year ago brand new. I have yet to have the throttle issues that you talk about. The main difference that I can see in our bikes is I still have the stock exhaust, you might want to get your bike flashed.
Maybe this bike not really meant for you, 😂😂
This bike just too expensive but awesome! MT-09 baby!
Agreed!
@@TURBOTWINKIE MT-10 much better if it's in right hands. MT-09 is more of a bike to commute on and do low speed wheelies.
No comparison. MT-09 factory suspension is complete garbage. MT-10 has world-class R1 quality suspension
I hate to say this but you're picking it apart and complaining too much I just bought an mt10 and my seat is tight! I didn't find nothing wrong with it don't pick it apart
No GoPro Mounts for Bell Star =''''(
I have one, but in my dream ;'V
In the world atm you have your health, that's more important my friend 👍
throttle delay? having a laugh? you must have a broken one
Strange... I have a 2017 model and I've never had the issue with throttle response. I do have Akropovic full system exhaust, but even stock it was totally fine for me. 🤷
I totally agree with you on the fuel mileage and fuel gauge though. My brother has a 2018 gsxs1000, and has much better fuel economy. And that damn fuel gauge... I feel like that first 'tick' on the gauge is actually more than half a tank. It takes forever to get below it, but once it does, it seems like my low fuel warning flashes waaaay too quickly.
Intro music is way too loud
Just ride the thing, stop whining!!
Serious amount of nit picking there.. 😅
what year is it?
M Stone it is the 2018 model
Get a 2017-2019 KTM 1290 Superduke R - it will solve most of these problems 😉
Yes, and you will get reliability issues. SD R is a great bike to ride, but not so great to own.
@@sufilms8878 what? why? I have mine since may 2018 without any issues...
The only thing which could make any problem is the keyless system and even this can be resetted with some trick at home.
gaben8206 count your blessings and appreciate your luck. Superduke performs well but is notoriously unreliable
Ktm is nothing but weird electrical issues that are non stop it will always be in the shop even when buying brand new. I know two people with 390’s and 1 with the 1290. The smaller ones are useless they’ll be in the shop for 3 months at a time .
or a vmax
Omg!
You’re just nitpicking!
Haha yeah the 6 mm gap between the gas tank that collects dust🤷😂😂😂
Remap it with a power commander, seriously.
Forget the pc. Just flash it.
5 things the yamaha mt-10 hates about you...
You've got nothing better to do with your time than to think of the most trivial and unimportant things that you could find to moan about on this bike,that have no impact on the way it rides and goes about it's business...
As for the throttle having little or no response to your inputs on the twist grip,i think the biggest problem with the throttle is that you don't know how to use it in the correct way,so rather than using that little limp twist of your wrist that you have,grab the throttle by the balls and ring it's neck to the redline in each and every gear,then you can learn to use the rear brake when your up on the back wheel and heading to the point where you can ride the bike properly with your stabilisers taken off and your first pair of big boy pants...lol
I'm done with this video
I take it youve never seen an a dyno readout of an unmapped motorcycle with the catalyst removed? Your bike is basically running lean now so when you twist the throttle the air/fuel level is all wrong as their isnt the back pressure.
Also interesting comment about the seat. ive owned mt07, mt09 and mt10 and have never noticed the gap under the seat in two years of ownership! It is there though as i just went to the garage and looked. I then realised im so glad im not anal about bikes 🙏
remove rear pegs and flash ecu at moore mafia.. quit yer cryin!
You wrote a Mt09 before?
Yes I have :)
TURBO TWINKIE did you like it?
I consider buying one, I'm currently on an mt07.
If you hate it gave it to me lol
Just here.....mimimi than by another bike!!😂😏
Почему мне кажется что я слышу у тебя русский акцент ?
The MT-10 cosmetic (and some functionality related) fit and finish is like a watermelon with 1 whole ream of Japanese origami paper cuts glued to it.
Fit and finish shoddy. Gaps, sloppy seat, wires, hoses, pointless plastic bits.
Very very ugly face (just look at the history of what Yamaha used to make, for contrast). Fussy and time consuming for washing. Headlight illumination garbage (compared to dual H4 large reflectors in previous FZ1).
Bad RBW throttle calibration. Plan to spend hundreds on exhaust ECU flash.
Sucks gasoline like a badly carbureted Chevy 454. Most uneven firing 4-bangers (ie. cross-plane in-lines, or V4) suck gas compared to their equally powerful counterparts.
More limited travel range than the previous FZ1 via tank capacity and consumption.
More expensive insurance than previous FZ1.
@@keithcarr5905 Are you just upset someone isn't bowing down to worship the machine god, perhaps that you venerate very much?
😂🤣 so true
You just hate this bike..LOL
Booooo
Yamaha have the best engin in the car. Shipp. Cyklet.
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oh brazileiro tu tens uma mota hmmmm
I dont like them not my thing
Yeah I’m probably skip this bike and get a scrambler
Biggest waste of 5 minutes of my time EVER
dae kuta kayan nag bakal lapota ka kadakol mo reklamo
lol sell the bike its not meant for you