Yamaha MT-10 Review | MENTAL!!
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
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Yamaha MT10 (FZ-10 in the US) is the lastest and greatest litre naked to join the line up. But whats it like compared to the Tuono, Superduke, Speed Triple, GSX-S? Massive thanks to Freestyle Yamaha for giving me a full afternoon with the bike to really get to grips with it.
You could never say Yamaha played it safe with this bike, its mental in every respect!!
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I love the look. It looks like a decepticon from transformers.
Optimus Prime's nephew!
Spoiler alert, optimus prime goes over a cliff... Rip
I love my MT10, I'm off to the garage to give it a hug ^^
It's been almost 3 years since I bought the MT10, but the more I ride it, the more I like it.
A high-powered street fighter with a position close to the orthodox naked, this machine is excellent as a tourer and is an ideal bike for me that will not make me tired even when riding long distances.
I totally agree with you who are riding with the utmost fun.☺️
Love watching your videos chops, all very informative. I treated myself to a MT-10 after watching your review of it & I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work 👍👍
Got my 2018 MT10 in October of this year after watching all of the vids I could and could not be more pleased. The thing is mental. Got it run at 700 miles within 3 weeks which for me is probably half my mileage I'd normally do in 12 months! It makes me giggle out loud. Decatted it with a Leo Vince baffled pipe and running a Scorpion RP1-GP end can. Sounds absolutely amazing and still loud, but still a little more reserved than a full decat y-pipe from the other manufacturers. Standard seat is a pain after 40 mins but used to it now, and the front pads have been changed to SBS 634HS front pads which made a big difference on initial application and on hard braking for just £30!
Loved the video , have watched it a few times, love the extended power wheelie in that pass wary on. I've owned 11 different sport bikes from R6's to a Ducati 999R Fila to a built 230 hp 2008 R1 to a 2015 crossplane R1 but after an accident on the Ducati and then a car accident my back just did not allow sport bike riding for more than half an hour so did a lot of research and seemed to find that the rest of the world outside of America the rest the world seems to be in love with nakeds and super-nakeds . Found that you can have serious performance in a comfortable bike, makes sense SO decided to try an upright naked. At the time the FZ10 (MT10) hadn't been announced yet so I first test rode standard nakeds ,..the cb1000r, and a z1000 and a speed triple but going from a '15 crossplane R1 I was extremely disappointed in the performance. Comfortable yes but seriously lacking in power. SO stepped up to the super-naked class , rode a Tuono v4 Factory and my gosh I understood the supernaked craze, so comfortable and super sport handling and power but GOBBs of torque down low with a broad and steeply climbing curve and then also realized after 3 hours my back wasn't hurting, found it! Looked at the other Snakeds , superduke 1290r which was amazing in power but in sound, compared to the v4 of the tuono it sounded aweful! And of course is expensive still just like the tuono. Rode the EBR ,..well, basically another 1290r , still expensive. I figured wel it's either save money and be disappointed in power or spend it and be happy , nothing in between. Then in my shopping I stumbled accross an ad for the soon to be released FZ10, (MT10 in your part of the world, never did understand the 2 different names for the same bike?) I know people either love the looks or hate it but I LoVED it! Just looked extremely mean and edgy , very aggressive , definitely not beautiful like the tuono but loved the look and then read Yamahas new naked was going to be going after the European supernakeds and would be based largely on the R1 with a crossplane power plant based off the R1's . I'd fallen in love with my crossplane in the R1 I had so I was pretty convinced and beyond excited for the release. Till then I test rode the new gsxs1000 , again totally disappointed , continued researching and narrowing down to two bikes, the tuono v4 HAD to be a 'Factory' and the FZ10 which I hadn't rode yet as it hadn't launched. Unfortunately the cons of the tuono were of course it was $17,500 US which was very painful, the only other con was there is NO aprilia dealer within a 1,000 miles of me in utah USA SO service would be nearly impossible and of course aprilia is not known for reliability in comparison to the most reliable Moto company several years running Yamaha , of which theres a dealer on every corner. As information was released I got more excited , Ontop of a low end torque tuned crossplane Powerplant it'd have top electronics and ridding aids where the other Japanese nakeds down, adjustable, and fully adjustable suspension, power modes , adjustable TC , wheelie control , oh and cruise control? The greatest thing I never knew I needed! and the list went on. Then pricing was released and ya, $12,999, so $4,500 less than the factory , then performance data released , "the quickest to 60 mph in the 2017 Yamaha lineup, that was it, made my decision, supernaked performance at Jsut above base naked pricing. I also knew that my two favorite sounding bikes ever is a Catless aprilia v4 and a catless crossplane,..which sound very similar when cat is removed. Yamaha then released a video of one of their Factory riders running laps at Suzuka on the other Japanese nakeds and then the European nakeds and supernakeds. The end result of course showed the other Japanese nakeds serious lack in performance and handling and a much slower lap time than even the base nakeds of Europe , speed triple , monster etc, ...then the BMW s1000r , superduke 1290r, and tuono , all 3 lap times embarased all the other base nakeds. Then came the MT10 lap, I expected somewhere in the middle where it is much more powerful than the nakeds but a little down on power from the supernakeds . End of lap listing all times, and the MT10 tied the BMW , BEAT the $5,000 more KTM!!! And was just 1.5 seconds down from the top performing tuono! That was it! Sold! Didn't need to ride it, top European supernaked performance at $4,500 less and knowing I loved the crossplane 4 , imagining it tuned and geared for low and midrange toque it was all I needed to know. Best part, FINALY is Americans are finally realizing what you Europeans have always known, nakeds are amazing, it's the fastest growing and highest selling bike class in the uS now, good for me becaue of course when they launched the FZ10, in utah the dealers wanted above MSRP for the FZ10, but I found a dealer in California that ordered 13 fz10's , 9 of them in the armor grey and hi-viz color combo and were worried about having too many of that color and sitting on them. I made an offer still having never rode one, site unseen and the dealership took it,...$9,250 US for a NEW FZ10 with 4 miles on it!! $3,750 under suggested retail and $8,200 less than the tuono factory and KTM! Was like Christmas waiting for it! Finally arrived to my driveway in a trailer and it was history from there! I can't believe all this time I was missing out on supernakeds! Best of all worlds combined! The FZ10 is absolutely the most fun bike I've owned , I can ride 12 hours with a. Bad back, never had a problem with it, just absolutely epic and costs me $160 /month payment and $40/month insurance haha! I watch your video and it's like riding it the first time all over again, same thoughts you had! I ended up removing the 21 pound cat and replaced with a prototype Termignoni Y-pipe , left the factory titanium can on , put a rave filter and sent the ECU to NelsTune to retune for the changes and eliminate the flat spot in the torque curve , he extended the redline, smoothed the throttle out and gave a very significant gain in hp and trq,..more than a 2018 tuono factory! The FZ10 didn't need more power but did need a tune or flash so may as well raise it. If you haven't rode a tuned MT10 , you need to find one and do a video, it's unreal! And a catless crossplane 4 sounds epic!!!!! Very Rossi-GP-like.
End result, pure adrenaline and bliss while saving a lot of money! I only wish they sold the SP in the US! R1m electronics, R1M multimatic suspension , all the magnesium titanium , color tft , quickshifter etc etc, SO jealous you guys have them there!
Not sure why I wrote this long ass comment , maybe Jsut becaue I found myself watching your video for probably the 4th time now and taking me back to that exciting time changing to Snakeds and the FZ10!
Keep up the bad-assery, and videos and ride safe brother!
Thanks for the reply buddy I agree with everything you've said. I don't understand why Honda and Suzuki have not released a proper super naked it's a huge mistake. The mt10 is a great bike I would really like to try the SP still not ridden one yet, I think the colour scheme goes a long way to improving the looks too which I'm not 100% sold on still but the bike rides like a dream no denying that. Enjoy it, sounds like yours is rather special with the mods 👌
Lamb Chop Rides man a CZcams motoVlogger that replies to comments that's awesome!!!!!! 🙂👍. Agreed 100% can you imagine a true Supernaked based on the fireblade , Supernaked based on the gsxr1000, a zx10r based z1000! the cb1000r and gsxs1000 have nothing in common with their superbike brothers, should do the same thing and keep closer to the actual sport bike motor and retune it, keep all the rideraids etc. id think Honda seeing the praise the MT10 has received as the first Japanese Supernaked that runs with the exotic European nakeds at a fraction of the cost. I hope they join the game soon, would be really cool! I was just going to ask , I'd LOvE to see your review on the MT10 SP, you seemed to really enjoy the base MT10 so Sure you'd love it with some really high end parts. Electronic suspension, quickshifter, brembos , color TFT, and R1m coloring. Sure wish we had them here in the US! I know you said you weren't sure on the sound of the crossplane 4 sound, I thought the same on my '15 R1 when I got it, BUT removed the cat and t truly sounds epic! First mod I did to my MT10 was the Y-pipe. You should hear it, the youtuber motovlogger "the muscle biker" bought mine, a month ago and did some videos on the sound with some flybys,truly you should check them out to hear what it sounds like with just a Y-pipe. Sounds unbelieveable! Night and day from the Factory system. The Factory exhaust makes the crossplane sound like a bunch of bumblebees in a can. It truly sounds very moto GP without the cat.
I LOVED my FZ10 (MT10) really regret selling it. Only been a month and I want to buy another. Again back to the debate of which Supernaked, want the tuono factory but can't risk the reliability cost and not having a dealer anywhere near me, so it has to be out. Would be my first choice if they were reliable and not extremely expensive to maintain and service. So it comes down to a SD 1290r 1.0. 2.0 is too expensive where my other option is another MT10. I can get a 1.0 for just under $14k with mods , MT10 depends how lilucky I am, $13k for a new one or maybe lucky again at $9,250? The SD has always been a dream and yours sounds EPIc!!!! I worry a bit about buying the king of nakeds and not having all the rider aids. The full array of aids on the MT10 has saved my ass a few times! Do u worry about it?? To wheelie don't you have to turn everything off? Cause that would be sketchy I'd imagine.
With my experience with the MT10 I likely will go that route IF the electronics on the SD are a safety concern enough. SC project is comming out with a GP titanium big bore full system for the MT10 and that sir will sound exactly like Rossis!
I'd love to see you review a crossplane R1!! Any plans to? Find one with the cat removed so you can see what I mean. I miss my '15 R1 but not a lot of the aspects, I'm a Supernaked man now! For good!
Thanks for the reply! Was super cool of ya! You're at the top of my list with the Barron of my favorite motovloggers! I really love your vids! Your hillarious too and beautiful country! If ya ever get out to the US come to utah to the world famous canyons! I'll hook it up! Ride safe brotha!
Thank you for this! I wanted a Tuono for 2 years then realized I’m too big for it then been wanting Superduke but thanks to you I may switch to Mt10!
I used to own a brand new 1999 R1, the thing that I have never forgot about the bike was the engine! The engine was the best engine of a motorcycle or car that I have ever owned. It was so tractable, leave it in top, lower the speed to say 30mph then open the throttle and it takes you all the way to top speed no problem, loved the bike regret selling it!!
You need to try out a k5/K6 1000 like your r1 engine on steroids the mid range is Unbelievable
Looking at this video as an ex Tuono V4 aPrc owner and now on my second MT-10, your comparison to the 1100 V4 Tuono does not take into account several negatives of Aprilia ownership - like reliability issues, the poor dealer network, very sketchy parts availability, super-expensive 12,000 mile valve services, even worse fuel consumption than an MT-10 and also greater depreciation.
If all things were equal, yes I think anyone would take the Aprilia over the MT-10. But in the real world, the MT-10 with its bulletproof Japanese dependebiity, 18,000 mile valve services, in-stock parts that can be sourced super-cheap direct from Japan and delivered VAT free within a week and used parts also being freely available, for me it is a easy choice.
Any prospective MT-10 buyer needs to take into account three essential improvements. One is to fix the wierdly un-linear throttle response and the annoying closed-to open throttle surging. The second, is to bring the front brakes up to what you'd expect them to be and the third is to set-up the suspension properly, which is a massive zero-cost incremental win.
On my two MT-10s I've had one postal ECU reflash and one dyno reflash. I suppose that its no surprise that he dyno set-up reflash is noticably better than the postal one that I had on my previous bike. Fuel economy also improved on both after the reflash.
As for the brakes, the initial bite and overall power that is lacking as standard can be very easily fixed with new SBS, Brembo or EBC road/track pads. I used SBS RST pads and these improve braking feel and power to a level where I feel that there is no need to consider any other braking changes like changing the master cylinder or brake lines.
I set the suspension the JHS suggested settings and it really transformed the way the bike rides. In addition, dropping the forks in the yokes by two more rings, to a total showing above the top yoke of three, further improves the bike's ease of turning in.
The only other minor criticism is the too-thin standard seat. This is easily overcome by fitting the comfort option. I also fitted slightly lower bars and Gilles adjustable handlebar clamps which have moved the bars forwards and down, which for me feels much better than the too-upright OEM handlebar position. I still have my exhaust catalyser in place with a K&N air filter and an end can. The bike made 153 rear wheel horsepower on Junction 33's dyno.
I wonder if they will ever make an XSR1000 with this engine, because the MT-10 is a face only Yamaha can love.
or cybertron :D
It's one of the best looking bikes in the last years. Especially in black.
Ohhh.. it’s grows on you! Everybody gives you the 👍. No one has told me it’s ugly, only it looks sharp. You would love it guaranteed! You would not be disappointed
I'm torn. I'm currently 07..I'm looking at 09..but now I might want a 10
Buy one, you won't regret it.
I've had my 10 since 2016 . One thing that's really bad is the lights when on unlit roads at night.Utter rubbish.
Not one single problem in that time with reliability.Nothings broke,fell off or leaked.
I've ridden in all weathers including snow ( not by choice )
Most fun, Mode B TCS 3 for stretching it's legs.
Yamahas QS is a great add on but now comes as standard with new MTs.
Brembo pads and Pirelli Diablo 3 tyres make a huge difference to the bike weather you buy a stock or SP model.
Comfort seat ,well for me yes as i'm 74KG (11.7 stone )standard seat is like a park bench.
Going to the Black forest on it soon via the Vosage mountains . That sound from the exhaust is wicked.
do you reckon brighter LEDs can fix the light issue or is a design issue? Also how do you find the fuel economy?
@@alexpapa7757 Hi Alex. That's a possibility but it doe's need more light .I would say it's form over function defiantly. As for fuel,yes they like plenty of that and i can empty a tank sharpish when caning it.It's slightly better since i had FT ecu flash done. However if you are on open roads and in top ,stay bellow 130kms/h with the cruise control on ,you can get around 130 miles to the tank.The Eco sign comes on the dash so there you go. I find i can get a little more sometimes if i take my time when re fuelling so the tank is literally full to the brim , but it's only a little.
Lamp which one more comfortable for longer ride the tuono or the MT10 aka FZ1k?
At Gazebo Smedley - totally agree. Im mid 50's, my first brand new bike too. I still have my licence .......just. This thing is a beast. Love the motor, the handling. Hate the brakes, headlight & petrol consumption. Seat is hard but suits the bikes style. BUT, I still get a smile on when on the open road free willying. Sweet.
I don't think the headlight is too bad, suspension was harsh until I had it set up at a suspension specialist (£30) and the brakes were a bit wooden until I fitted some EBC HH pads. I have also had it re-mapped which improved the throttle and gained some ponies, It's by far and away the best bike that I have ever ridden and I will be keeping it for a long, long time.
Agree with the other comment, had my suspension softened, got the Yamaha comfort seat which is worth it, EBC pads Fox the brakes and I had Legendary NelsTune flash the ECU for a race filter and Y pipe and gained great power, higher numbers than a tuono v4 1100 factory (the other bike I considered) and got mine new at launch for $8,250 less than a Factory , nearly half the price. My favorite mod definitely the Termignoni Y-pipe! That crossplane 4 decated is the mast amazing sound and that's comming from a aprilia v4 lover! Of the 11 sport bikes I've owned from Ducatis to crossplane R1's, the FZ10 (MT10 is absolutely my favorite and the most enjoyable and comfortable, and honestly with the torque fees the quickest! 👍 no regrets!
The leaf smack was a classic :) thanks for the video!
if you had seen one in blue you'd love it also the rectifiers still melting on tuono,s ? and there is no warren on KTM,s electrics ide say the mt 10 is a decent bike
I know this video is a few years old now Chops, I was wonderingif you have ridden the 2020 version? Assuming it's any different other than colour scheme? I am in a real quandary at the moment, currently saving for a deposit for either one of these or a 1290SDR, having not managed to ride either yet (thanks Covid) I would value your input between the two, budget won't quite stretch to a brand new SDR, but I could do a brand new MT10 vs a 2018ish SDR.
I bought one. After a month i stopped riding like a prick and enjoyed it as a grunty daily. This bike takes a bit of learning, but the rewards are worth it. Once you know where it sits on a daily/blast out/long ride you'll love it. I've had busa, gixxer 750, gsxs 1000, kawasaki zzr but this is the best bike I've ever owned. I'd like to try the tuono but services and repairs are a rip off.
Me and the Mrs are looking at a demo what are ur thoughts on 2 up touring on this monster of a machine cheers
@@elvisthewart670 it's not the best for pillion in my opinion Test ride by all means but 2 up changes the bike completely
I just got my 21 mt10 and yeah it’s a wild beast that’s for damn sure, feels weird accelerating that hard I feel like I’m tearing space time
No bike is as hideous as the 2021 Ducati Monster. I'm loving the MT styling.
I watched this and bought 1 , great review 👍
How many times do u mention the tuono lol. Please tell me u bought a tuono at some point??
Brand new sub. Weighing nakeds for my next bike purchase and this is near the top of my list. Great vid great info
Milli Mill what did you end up getting?
Well over two years ago I bought one of these and don't regret that decision one bit. Under 10K for this bike was a proper bargain especially compared to the hugely expensive 2011 Multistrada I had before (what an unreliable load of sh## that was!)
The Yam is so comfortable, ridden 1000s of miles across Europe on it, blasted up Alpine roads, done motorways but it's at it's best down deserted B roads. Yes yes it's thirsty but for me it's a small price to pay to ride such an exciting machine. I've had the comfort of Yamaha reliability, nothing has gone wrong and I have no worries about continuing to own and enjoy this bike out of warranty, wonder how many Tuono owners will say that at 13,000 miles?
Banditmanuk haha agreed! I was down to the tuono factory and FZ10 (MT10), in the US unfortunately they were listed more expensively than Europe but still $4500 under an unreliable Factory. I found a brand new one in California for $9,250 (they over ordered at the launch of the FZ10 and weren't selling. $8,250 LESS than a tuono factory, with reliability like you said and when I decat the crossplane 4 , the symphony it makes is right up there with the sound of the aprilia v4! Epic and very rossi-GP-like. Sure my neighbors hate me but I get such a rush hearing it! The MT10 is by far the best bang for the buck of anything out there. The European Super-naked performance I got at nearly half the price! No brained! I only wish they sold the SP here in the states! You fellas are lucky! Ride safe!
@@lingenfelterzeeohhsix8154 hi mate. Is decatting with keeping the stock muffler still makes it loud for neighbours? Or did you also had an aftermarket muffler? Thx.
So then Chopsy, SMCR or MT10?
Nice Review!!! Had mine since May this year, as you said, firmed up the suspension, had to take the rear up a lot (not set up for big lads out the box) SP engineering system on it, few other tweeks and changes but bloody love it!!! Luckily Still have my license!!! Amazing bike, and bloody good fun!!!
Is there enough adjustment on the factory shock to firm it up for a bigger rider? I'm 100ish kg and was thinking of getting one of these as a next bike... to compliment my much loved MT09 (which is of course way too soft for just about any rider).
After mentioning the Gsxs - wich I'm absolutely crazy about- I'm definetly giving this a testride as soon as possible.
just brought a 2016 MT10 with 8k on it. absolutely mint condition and is insane. love it. partX my 2021 MT09 for it. always wanted one. sounds loud as fk especially with the Dcat removed. unreal pops and bangs. over 1k extras. love it puts a hige smile on my face every time i look at it
I'm getting a new bike soon and having trouble deciding between a heavily modded 2017 yamaha fz-10 and a brand new 2019 ktm 1290 super duke r. I love the looks of the ktm but Its obviously much more expensive here in the states than the yamaha but I just can't get over how mean and cool the duke looks. I'll be test riding both soon so we'll see but I know the ktm is going to have to really impress me more than the yamaha to spend that extra cash. After riding both LCR which would you say you had the most fun riding?
ive noticed on alot of these fast bikes that the speedometer goes fuzzy now and again :P
So glad to see a rider who always keeps his two fingers on a brake lever. Unfortunately, lot's of riders, especially newbie riders - crash because they ignore that very important but basic rule. Good video, amazing machine and ride safe!
It's not a good rule. I have been riding for 15+ years so I am not sure if I am a newbie and I definitely wouldn't hover over the front break. Especially not permanently at least if they were good breaks. It's asking for trouble one twitch and you are going over the handlebars.
It is not a rule I have ever heard of applying except when you are about to begin applying the break.
Maybe slow speed in town, but when you're motoring no chance.
I agree with the style of putting two fingers on the brake lever.
If you hold the steering wheel from the outside and accelerate with your little finger and ring finger, your index and middle fingers will be weakened and free, so you can improve passive safety by putting these two free fingers on the brake lever.
On the other hand, people who accelerate by force from the inside fingers tend to perform rough operations, and the elbows tend to fall and the shoulders tend to be stressed, which hinders self-steering.
I sat on it this wekend and i had my knees hit some plastic bits. Did you have the same thing or does that bother i have in jeans standing still dissapear when you are in full gear and on the move?
I love the looks, very aggressive and outlandish.
had a test ride today on an MT10 and absolutely loved it, unfortunately it was rush hour traffic so spent a lot of time in traffic and filtering, but even slow annoying traffic was easy on this bike, when i got the chance to open up, it was awesome, so comfortable, felt at home right away, i had just tried a triumph RS 765, just didn't gel with it , the triumph looks better and sound great at high revs, but personally , no comparison to the MT10
So what you have is another Japanese cruiser, like the Hayabusa or ZX14?
Great review of this beast... Keep up the good work
Got one. Love it. No more superbikes for me. You really can't feel the weight as it's really well balanced but then I didn't think 210kg kerb was heavy tbh.
+Michael Elwood no your right.. think it's because I just got off a supermoto it felt heavy
If looks are an issue, are Yamaha going to make a Tracer 1000? Tracer being a slightly stiffer, slightly longer, slightly prettier MT...
Stunning bike, love this colour
Can't beat seeing a power wheelie! Good review, thanks for sharing.
Good review mate......I like your style of reviews 👍🏻👍🏻
Such a great review, I watched it again!
+john harris haha thanks John 👍
Test rode the MT-10 today and its an absolute fucking beast! I agree with your comments about the looks... definitely marmite. I own a 2017 MT-09 which looks lovely and is quick too but the MT-10...OMFG
i thinks it looks pretty, i checked it personally yesterday, very compact in person.
How would you compare to the KTM Super Duke R or GT? Especially considering the price difference.
I recently sold my Superduke R which i had for 18 months.The Superduke is a good bike but the rear end moves around a lot when you ride hard. I couldn't get used to it. If you are not riding hard the Duke is great. I am thinking about buying either an MT10SP or a Tuono. Im leaning towards the Tuono. I am in no doubt its the best naked bike on the market. I think the Mt10 is a close second though. The Duke ate tyres as well.
You mentioned the TERONO?? looks better did i pronounce the name correctly?
I cant find that bike....help please...anyone
Tuono is the bike I mentioned 👍
nice review!! I had done a little review had to take it off too many complaints on speed! love this bike
You said you had it in traction control on 1 but in a few clips there was flashing light next to the Speedo, was the the TC kicking in as sometime you didn’t seem to be doing all that much and it was constantly flashing?
i think that might have been a shift light william not 100% sure but thats my guess
Yeah shift light, not TC. TC light is yelllow
Very nice review. Maybe my next bike for sure....
selling my zx6r in the spring, i just put her in storage for the winter. decided i want a 1000 next season i think im leaning towards the mt10 more as much as ive always wanted a r1 i think ill like the more street focused aspects of the mt10. i live where there is some shit roads and it makes supersports brutal sometimes.
What are they like to service?
Naked, but it looks like there's quite a lot of panels and gubbins to take off
MRA screen would be high on my shopping list - make distance work a bit more bearable
Have a sp . Oil change a doodle , plug change a pain in the butt. Came from the usual years and years of sportsbikes to one of these and absolutely love it ! Have it near 3 years now.
Couldn't believe the speed triple was faster than the MT10sp in PB Mag article, speaking of which I enjoyed your latest effort very good indeed.
Brian McCann definitely depends on the track and rider of course. Yamahas Factory rider tested the MT10 at Sazuka prior to the launch of the MT10 and also did times laps on ALL of the base nakeds and Supernakeds and the MT10 destroyed the speed triple along with about everything else. Beat the BMW s1000R (which is faster at other tracks) tied the superduke for 2nd fastest in the group test laps and was only 1.5 seconds off the winning legendary Tuono Factory at a very significant cost savings over the Factory. Jsut depends on rider and track. Motorcycle.coms finding were nearly the same. Amazing how much a track can favor a specific bike even aside from rider. My track day lap times at Miller motor sports park are faster on FZ10 than I was on my 2015 crossplane R1! Go figure? My guess is the torque out of the whole gained me more time than the long back stretch where the R1 had the advantage. I'm no professional by any means but out time some of the supersports on my FZ10. I know the seemingly constant lap champion everywhere is the Tuono v4 1100 Factory but amazed at how close the times are with the MUCH cheaper ,..even non-SP mt10's. Amazing bang for the buck!
I have a question, here in Holland we have "Hoegee Performance Center". they tune the standard GSX-S1000 models to an aditional 15hp and 18 Nm from 6000rpm for 2225,- (in Holland) so it 165hp and a lot more torque. What bike is better at that point? still the MT-10 or is the GSX-S 1000 as good as the Yamaha?
Marijn Kramer the performance on the MT10 is better , handling too. You can tune the MT10 to gain upwards of 22hp depending on ads , you're talking serious numbers then not far off on pricing. No brainer to me.
That bike sounds absolutely beautiful with an SC Project exaughst.
Watching because I recently fell for the s1000r and as usual looking at something to talk me out of it. I have an fz1
What bike would make a kid look up from his/her phone?
Only one I can think of is the Panigale and maybe MV F4?
Nice lead up. Enjoyed the review, thanks!
Best review yet ...
great review man. you should try to do a review on the new ktm super duke. For me I think the tuono or supwrduke take the super naked class
It looks amazing
how do you block only the lcd screen even if the bike moves all the time?
It's an optional extra, screen pixelisation doesn't come standard on the base MT10
@@this_is_a_tiny_town haha ha .. good one mate ..
Your editing skills are awesome. Great review
+Steve thanks matey 👍
Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde bike for sure. I've had my MT10 for a few months now. It's a beast. I call mine The Freak. It's hard to explain this bike to someone other then to say it's kinda crazy. I love it but at same time think wtf did I buy. Lol
What a review, awesome detail, shame i just bought the Fazer
Is mt10 comes with quickshifter as standard?
No auto-blipper though so you're only going to want to use it for up-shifts.
Nice review, like the drone shots. I own this bike, done 2000 miles now and just love the way it goes. It still scares me occasionally and I still ride it mostly in std mode (least aggressive) I do like that I've had no mechanical or warranty issues, which was a concern before I bought being a brand new model. Biggest downside of the MT10 is it's massive thirst coupled with a 17 litre tank which brings the fuel light on at 90 miles and is an empty 10 by 120 miles.
Great review Chops, my old mate has one, I had an R1 for 6 years and a Thunderace for 6 years before that and consider myself a proper Yamaha fanboy. However I picked up a Gen 2 Super Duke R last weekend and will not be swayed, wanna buy an S1000r cheap anybody
You may want to look into the 2017 SP model.. colour screen, better shocks etc
+Jay Tee yes I saw that news, bet that's going to be pricey though. The price is the best thing about this bike and the grunt of course! Needs to be about 12 - 13 the SP I think certainly no more
Great review! Just one question though... why did you keep referring to it as a heavy bike? Yamaha Canada lists its wet weight as 210kg and Aprilia Canada lists the Tuono as 209kg wet. All the super nakeds seem to be in that ball park.
+Headonnis yes your right it's not, it is when comparing to a sports bike but it's around the same as Tuono and Super Duke. I stand corrected 😊
Ahh I see, I was just watching your Tuono review before that so I had it in my head that you were saying the MT10 was heavy in comparison. I love the Tuono but the MT10 is my front runner for next bike (which of course changes hourly).
Because of you, the flyer and English dan i test rode one of these and bought it. You owe me 8k 😆. I got a 2016 minter, low milage, one owner, brembo upgrade and braided hel lines. I absolutely love it. Thanks mate.
Love it , stunning
Good review. I prefer the GSX-S1000. But I am knocking on.
Gezzer you have got to try triple RS 1050 naked nice 🇬🇧 another brilliant video and i think its cool but i am not cool either 😎
The MT10 is like night and day to ride compared to the Tuono. Im to cramped on the Aprilia (189cm). The MT10 fits me like a glow. The engine sound on the MT10 sounds better than the V4 wich Ive never though but felt after a testride. Strangly my MT09 with flash and custom exhaust gives me more andrenaline rush than the Touno. Offcourse it will crush it on the track. The clinical performance is not as important for me. Its all about what you feel riding it.
SRT SPEEDY Mancaveproduct agreed! I went with the FZ10 (the US MT10) over the tuono factory and got it new , no miles , $8,250 LESS than a factory! I LOvE the sound of an aprilia v4 , especially de-cated , was always tied with my crossplane 2015 R1 , even with a cat. I've been to Jsut one MotoGP race in my life but hearing Rossis Crossplane was life changing! When the FZ10 released I ordered instantly a prototype Cat delete pipe from Termignoni , when I put it on, I was absolutely blown away at how much the sound reminded me of that crossplane GP sound! I'm sure my neighbors hate it but I don't have idiotic US drivers turning into my lane or out in front of me anymore , can hear me for miles and gives me the greatest rush when ripping which as you know , is ALL you do when you own an MT10! 😉 I haven't rode the MT09 but here the crossplane triple is a blast but am 100% satisfied going with the FZ10 , 0 regrets at nearly half the price of a factory but Yamaha reliability and availability of dealers! (In utah USA there isn't an Aprilia dealer within a 1,000 miles of me and that's bad news on a $17,500 Aprilia! Haha. Ride on brother!
If you were to choose between an MT-10 and a GSX-S1000, which do you think you’d purchase? (2016-2020 models) I’m so torn between the two bikes, and I’m not able to test ride either of them.
MT10
Mt10 without a doubt, I just bought one and it's absolutely the most hilarious and fun bike I've ever ridden. Comfortable too I had a 200 mile trip home with it and was perfectly comfortable the whole way
been checking a few videos of yours love your style of reviews and riding, Sub+1
Only just found your channel, really enjoy your views, your way of talking about things. Constructive critisism, I don't think a lot of the very wide angle drone shots add anything, unless they were of you spanking along the road maybe. There's my 2 pence!
+billymonkey111 thanks for the feedback Billy cheers 👍
i like my MT10 so much that when im not riding it i have to watch video's of it, ZX-14 is very dusty
Great review!!!!
LCR ktm super duke 1290 r 2017 or MT10 2017?
Well he brought a 2014 super duke, check out his new video to see why
Was wondering if the short wheelbase noticeably effects the handling as compared to sport bikes. Thanks in advance.
+Scooterider1 no didn't notice it.. Not even sure it has a shorter wheelbase?
Lamb Chop Rides MT10 is 1400mm, MT09 is 1440mm, R1 is 1410mm. It was visually noticeable to me when I first seen the bike. Glad to hear it's not effected by it though. Cheers!
+Scooterider1 yes your right read this online now after your comment. No I didn't notice it, probably why it's so keen to wheelie then 😀
Great review Chopsy. Telling it fair and square as always. Im going to trade up my Z1000 next year for either the MT10 SP or Tuono Factory. I get the feeling it going to be a tough choice!!.
+Race Pattern thanks matey, yeah mt-10 sp could be super cool with the r1 electronics and extras... that would be a tough one!
:) i really really like your reviews , you should do more of these
I am having trouble choosing between this bike and the Honda CB1000R. If anyone has experience with these 2 bikes, can you give me your opinion? Thanks!
Best thing to do is book a test ride of each at your local dealers. The last thing you'd ever want to do is buy one and then try the other and find you prefer it.
Check fuel consumption
Honda
Mt10 to go faster ..... cb better ride nicer bike and very fast.
Did you have the comfort seat extra on this?
+Mark Shorricks no stock Mark 👍
I have the mt10's old cousin the FZ1 Fazer (2008) would this be a decent natural upgrade for me? Much quicker? better comfort? Thanks
+Daz Morland sorry Daz not riden the old Fazer but would imagine this is a whole different ball game! It's a little snatchy the throttle and a few vibes from the engine but apart from those small issues it's fantastic if you can live with the looks
I've upgraded from an FZ1. Quite a bit more exciting, a lot more torque, really comfortable (with the comfort seat.) Easiest wheelies ever.
It just feels more special - like you've stepped up a level or two.
Great review.
great ride, please write to me what program you use to hide the speed you drive on the record.
+Jura Juric thanks Jura, I use Sony Vegas 👍 it's manual tracking though
thanks for the information ... i want you a safe and good ride ..
Great review as always.. My personal opinion in terms of how it compares power wise to the Speed and GSX-S though is GSX-S kills in on bottom end torque and feels as though it pulls a little harder at the very top, but the MT10 kils it through the midrange where the GSX-S dipps quite badly.. I found with the Triumph, anything below 8000-9000 kills both the GSX-S and MT10 untill they get really spinning..
I’ve had my sp and I wasn’t too sure at first but I love mine , I actually like the looks, but you’re right it’s bonkers and I keep telling myself off when I get off of it.🤦♂️
Put it power 3, feels like a cb1000r then. Only power 1 with TC 1 is bonkers
hahaha lots of fun
Whats up with the engine and exhaust sound? It's more like a 500cc parallel twin instead of an inline 4. I like Yamaha's concept of it but it doesn't appeal to me, although vfm is very good.
urbanfireblade it's the crossplane crankshaft. The R1 has been putting out that sound since 09. This is the same engine as the R1, just not quite as crazy. That's what you get with this engine
Through personal experience I no super nakeds are easier to ride in the Twisties and more fun
Had such a laugh at the leaf in the face. I’m alwas surprised how painful a little drizzle can be as as well…like a thousand little needles to the face 😂
lamb chop rides this or gsx s1000 ?
pete jones no comparison, gsxs1000 is a base naked seriously lacking in the power , performance and handling department. The MT10 is a legitimate Supernaked and nearly base naked pricing. Ride them both and you'll see why. I did along with all the other new base and Snakeds . It's very noticeable fasts and better handling. Different class!
Hey LCR... Loving your videos, you seem to have ridden all of the bikes I'm considering at the moment....
My budget will probably stretch to a fairly recent MT-10 or a slightly older (maybe 15/16) Superduke R... I presume given the choice you'd opt for the SDR? Hoping to ride one fairly soon and I'm also taking out the BMW S1000R and RR this weekend. I rode the MT-10 and fell in love with it immediately. It's ludicrous but awesome at the same time 👍😎
I'm having the same dilemma, but am including the speed triple r in my deliberations. What did you go for in the end?
david hurst I actually ended up with a GSX-R1000R which I absolutely love... If I was to get a naked I think it would be the Tuono first followed by an MT-10
Definitely make sure you try ride as many back to back as you can. With some of my test rides there was a few weeks in between which made comparison difficult
@@Fishter1 ha ha thanks! I am trying to get away from superbikes 😂 will defo have to try them all!
david hurst hah I’ve never had a superbike so decided I wanted one before I was too old and got a great deal on a new one.... I’d highly recommend the Tuono, it was so much fun and sounded incredible with the Akropovic but was quite pricey...
Fishter1 i have just sold my Speed Triple and now looking at MT10 , new GSXR and Fireblade, how did you rate the GSXR against the MT10. I test rode the MT10 and fell in love with the exciting sound and wheelies am worried the sound from an a standard in line 4 would be boring now
My ford fiesta cost me 13k. I could've got one of these new. Feels bad man
Lovely bike, great video, Thanks, Vinny. :-)
Hey LCR what height are ya ?
6'2"
Any help appreciated on what super naked you can buy on a budget? I know equipment won't be great but a new bike isn't an option for me right now 😊
Richard Beddoes go FZ10! (MT10 Europe) I've owned 11 super sports and didn't want to sacrifice performance for comfort and $ savings but there are only 2 Supernakeds that are budget friendly , the base Tuono and the FZ10 , I was torn between spending $4,500 US more for a tuono Factory (not a fan of the base tuono) but knowing the reliability of Aprilias v4 is horrible and living in utah USA , I don't have an aprilia dealer within 1,000 miles of me ! If you love the sound of aprilias V4 you will also love the sound of Yamahas crossplane 4, I de-cat mine and it's unbelieveable! Sounds Moto GP-like! The FZ10 is always put in the comparison tests as a Supernaked , so much more power and torque than its base naked cousins , has the electronic rider aids ABS, rider modes , adjustable traction control, wheelie control and cruise control and fully adjustable suspension all like the Snakeds. Ina. Nutshell, I (and the professionals ) classify the FZ10 as a supernaked but at base Japanese nakeds pricing of you shop. In the US the list price is $12,999 on the MT10 , I shopped online and bought mine new out of California from a dealership that overordered fz10's for $9,250!! $8,250 LESS than a tuono Factory! But the reliability of the most reliable Moto company on earth with dealerships everywhere. It's absolutely epic! If you love the base tuono and live near a dealer I can't speak for that , obviously they have a horrible track record with reliability but the tuono V4 1100 Factory is the best performing supernaked out there, but again, nearly double the price. There's no better bargain than the MT10! Supernaked performance , handling , Supernaked rider /safety aids and electronics at base Japanese naked pricing. A no brained for me, had mine 2 years and not one problem! Absolutely the most comfortable and fun bike I've ever owned! ZERO regrets! 👌
Great review and a great bike.
+stig800 cheers Stig!
Nice to see you playing with your new toy Chops👍🏻😎If I had 10K lying around I'd have one in a flash😈 Nice review mate, ya gotta sort out that blurry speedo though!😉🤔😜
Nice review dude, what's it like on motorways for wind, if you had chance to take it down one? Never knew it had a pixellation feature on the speedo, bean counters musta missed that one ;)
Its very very good on the motorway, had it up to three figures (once when my wrist slipped) and the screen offers amazing wind protection. Head wasn't really getting much buffeting at all! The best protection on a naked ive had yet. Yeah pixelation, its standard on all bike I try :-)
Three figures? What 70.5? :¬P