Delboy's Garage, Simple Skills, Reverse Bleed Brake lines.
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I really learned a LOT from this channel. I’ve watched a lot of bleeding tutorials but none of em tell me that the nipple should be facing upward when the caliper bone dry. I’ve tried asking my brother or my dad to teach me but none of em actually know how to. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for the video - it saved me hours of pain. I recently aquired a 1983 GL1100 with sidecar. This model was the first wing with linked braking. Being my first wing and my first experience of linked braking I have climbing a very steep learning curve. If anyone else is up against bleeding the brakes on one of these bikes with a side - a couple of things I learn - firstly jack the side up as far as possible and secondly remove the linked front caliper and raise it as high as possible..... thanks for your tip about that in the video. Lastly don't rush the job, leave time for those bubble to move about
Rap a rubber band around the front brake handle and add some weight to hold down the rear brake pedal. Wait several hours, remove the rubber band and the weight and your brakes will now provide a solid response as all of the dissolved gas in the fluid has been pushed out/expelled. Tip I got from Rob Bron, Amsterdam in the early 90s. It worked then and still works today.
Followed exactly what you did to re-prime the refurbished brakes on my 98 Trident and got there, although it took time to get all the bubbles out and for resistance to build up. I agree it is best to keep re-topping up with fresh fluid once bleeding through, there were loads and loads of tiny bubbles in the fluid as it came through the pipe on the bleed nipple. Be patient, it really works.Thanks Del.
Wow. I gave up on bleeding rear brakes just minutes ago. Im trying your way tomorrow. Thanks! For the good tip👍👍
Having done hydraulic brakes on cars, I thought I knew what I was doing for the dry and refurbished twin Brembo calipers on the front wheel of my BMW 659RLS. Two hours later, still fine pumping bubbles with the front brake lever using the conventional technique I learned on cars. Now I see why! Thanks !
You made my day!
After replacing all break lines with new once the system of my bike was almost empty (incl. ABS pump). With a vacuum pump I had now success getting the air out and fluid into the break system. Your tip pumping the fluid into the system in the opposite direction help a lot getting my breaks working again. Thx, very much!
Excellent Hans, that is great news, im glad the video helped you out.. take care., and ride safe. Del.,
Great advice Del especially not shaking the bottle and putting old fluid back in. I use a revers bleeding gun, pushes fluid up from calliper to master cylinder. I have had no problems bleeding my brakes with this..
Thank you so much for the info re reverse bleed. Had fitted new braided lines and was having a problem bleeding them. Now I know why thanks a bunch👍
Thankfor thos video.
I after dealing sticking brake on my '99 Valkyrie i rebuild the brake caliper and the right master cylinder. Air got on the line ans this was the only way to get it out.
This is in deed a good skill to have.
So Helpful!! This reminds me of how I get the air out of the Dialysis cartridge in the ICU, tapping the tubing. adding fluid..tapping and shaking. Neat!
Some great tips yet again. Really enjoying your channel and the huge amounts of videos I now will work through. :) I used to build bikes from bare steel tube back in the day...built a few lowriders and chops over the years and still learn handy bits a from guys like you mate. Great stuff.
Nice. This should honestly be the standard way to bleed a simple hydraulic system. The reason being that the bubble will continually try to rise in the lines due to gravity. A few tips I would add: Get a big "dispensing syringe" from a pet store or farm supply shop, so you never need to break the hydro locked system and expose it to air during the bleed. While at the pet store, also get clear vinyl hose used in fish tanks, so you can see the bubbles. Also, after pushing fluid upward from calliper to reservoir, there will still be a big bubble lodged in the calliper, above the level of the banjo bolt. To clear this bubble, simply pull some fluid back into the syringe after the reservoir has filled. Since the bleed valve is the highest point on the calliper, this has to be the last step and the calliper has to be upright to do it. This was done with the calliper upside down in this video, so there would still be a significant bubble in the calliper. To recap: Fill syringe and hose, connect hose to valve, open valve, small pull on syringe to clear small bubble at valve, big push of fluid until res is filled, then another small pull on syringe to clear bubble in top half of calliper, seal the system.
This guy uses a honking big syringe like the one Konrad mentions starting at 8:35: czcams.com/video/9CcEImkPc5I/video.html
@@CajunGreenMan Thanks for the tips from Konrad Sensenig and Peace Love which are the icing on the cake for this video!
Saved that to my note file. Thanks very much.
I have an upside down caliper that's been kicking my ass, I'll try this tomorrow
@@IanMacLeansnvThink I will, too.
Thanks, great video and I’m doing rear breaks on a Harley project soon. I’ve seen people give up trying to bleed brakes. Obviously didn’t see your instructions
I’m 70 yrs old and ride a 2013 Harley Streetglide. I have not done much wrenching on it, but
your detailed videos telling “why” a procedure works have inspired me to attempt at least
some maintenance repairs with more confidence. Thanks from Michigan, USA
Hi Thomas, how great to hear from you - we're so glad the videos can inspire you to get some of your own work done... it's always good to do more than just ride your bike, and it keeps you more in touch with it's day to day health! Thank you for taking the time to write, it's great to hear from you, hope the weather is good for you in Michigan, we have some friends who live in Detroit and they said it's pretty cold there this time of year with a lot of snow already! Take care and ride safe, and keep in touch, all the best for 2018 - D&Px
Thank you for this, very comprehensive, now to check it out irl.
Keep the vids coming x
Always enjoy and learn from these 'simple' mechanic skills vids....thanks! Lookin forward to the Q & A!
Thanks Allen, much appreciated, glad the videos can make a difference - thank you for your kind support and all the best for 2018 !
Thanks so much. I have been struggling to bleed the front dual caliper brakes on a ‘77 BMW R100S after a complete rebuild without success. I’m going to try the reverse bleed technique you suggest. Brilliant explanation!
Same problem with my 1983 BMW R65LS. Just doing it according tomy conventional car experience seems takes several hours OR perhaps the master cylinder is faulty and sucking air although there is no sign of any leaks when I squeeze the front brake lever. Just how much air can refurbished Brembo single cylinder calipers (both left and right side front) and hose lines hold? It seems endless!
I had struggled all morning the conventional way. Watched this vid and then reverse bled them and it was all sorted in 10 mins or so.
Can you do it without emptying the system?
I did a rebuild and so have mostly filled the system with fluid but have spongy brakes.
The injector trick really helpt me out to get the front brake going again. Thanks a million.
I had fun rebuilding my calipers and fitting braided hoses. Used the, clamp brake on and leave for a few days, method but never thought of inverting the calipers. What a simple idea. Thanks for all the videos during 2017 and I wish you and Penny the very best of new years. Catch you later.
Thank you Richard, good to hear from you - you know what they say, it's the simple things we never think of, that can save us the most time and money! Just sharing a little basic knowledge, so glad it can help you - all the very best for 2018, D&Px
AS EVER, CLEAR AND SENSIBLE EXPLANATIONS AND BRILLIANT VIDEO.
Useful info as always Del. Thank you.
Thanks cobber you've helped me heaps on my 88 FJ 1200 Yamaha restoration project very much appreciated .
Most welcome mate, am so glad it helped you, that makes it all worthwhile taking the time to produce the videos!
Blimey mate, you really have put some work in this year. Another cracking video in plain and simple 'no frills' language. Looking forward to the Q & A with Mr Dyson (as always) along with whatever comes our way in 2018. All the best to you and Penny for the New Year...
Thank you my friend, that's very kind of you - yes, it's been a hell of a year, busy, and sometimes pretty grueling, not to mention quite challenging at times, with the negativity that is evolving through YT, but it's heads up and move forward, the only way to go! Tc and ride safe, all the very best for 2018 - thanks for being there - D&Px
Thanks so much. I struggled with my clutch for a couple of hours. After watching this video I fixed it in 15 min.
Good on you mate, glad we could help!
Brilliant. Watched it several times!
Brilliant video...as usual. Thank you.
superbly clear and thorough vid, thanks for the help
Most welcome Rick, glad you enjoyed it.
well , i have to rebuild rear caliper on my daughter's scooter because previous owner did some sketchy stuff like putting 2 different pistons ( yeah, u did read right ) and some other stuff and i was thinking while watching your video about rebuilding he definitely have a video how to fyll up a empty brake system ..well i didn't find 1 video but 2 different ways to do it ....perfectly explained like professor ....freaking awesome mate ..thank you once again
I've been actually bluffing my way thru some stuff and now I realize that wasn't so smart.Hey thx for the video's.
Sehr gut erklärt, so hab ich das meinen Lehrlingen auch immer gsagt. Ich wünsche dir und deiner Familie einen feucht Fröhlichen Rutsch ins neue Jahr.
Danke für deine freundlichen Worte, mein Freund ... wir schätzen deine freundliche Unterstützung sehr! Frohes Neues Jahr und ein erfolgreiches Jahr 2018!
Glad i found this channel and video. About to do exactly this because of changing to a HEL rear brake hose. Keep up the good work, ill be checking more of your videos this evening after fitting my new line 👍
Thanks mate, and welcome aboard !
One more vid to the library! Awesome, Thanks Del. And a happy, healthy and prosperous 2018 to you and Penny.
Thank you my friend, same to you and yours... thank you also for your kind support this year, it makes all the difference!
Bloody brilliant... Thanks so much.. This trick saved me hours of pumping a lever and Turning a nut. I cant believe I didn't work this out for myself...
Glad it helped mate and you got the job done!
Thanks mate I'm trying to bleed a twin 2001 Tokico 6 piston caliper and your method makes a lot of sense
Due to a double front brake system i use wedges between the calipers, which i remove the pads first and push in the pistons fully to reduce the room for fluid and air. I even got a remark from a mechanic for crisp front brakes there....everything to remove the air in the system works fine.......have a great new year and ride safe you two.....
Hi Andi, good thinking, but remember not to push those pistons right back into their sockets unless they are spotlessly clean, they usually get a "tide line' of road grime and brake dust around them.. it wouldn't do to drag all that into the seals aye..!
Hi Del, hope you had a great Christmas buddy. I
remember your previous video on bleeding brakes. I was having an absolute mare trying to bleed my brakes. I then watched your video.. 10 minutes later. Solid brakes with loads of feel.
Top bloke. Happy New Year dude 🤘🏻
Thanks buddy, we're always so glad when a video hits the spot and gets someone out of trouble, it makes it all worthwhile... Have a great New Year, all the very best, D&Px
Nice! Thanks Delboy.
I miss these videos. This is what made me subscribe to your channel all those years ago. Don't get me wrong, you have great content that reaches a broad audience but i genuinely do miss these tips and tricks. Personally, im not a big fan of fabrication but that's just me. Im a big fan of learning about how to service your motorcycle and it was just nice to see you throwing out another video like this. Keep up the good work. I hope to see more vids like this.
Thank you my friend, that's very kind, appreciate you keeping touch and the feedback is valuable... as you said, we were doing thi kinda thing many years ago, an covered many basic maintenance tasks, but as you'll probably agree, there's only so much you can do before you've covered it all and we only have the bikes we own to work on, we're not a commercial shop, so we do what we can.... stay tuned for 2018, gonna do some diverse stuff, but (hopefully!) all of it interesting in one way or another....and of course, the tips and tricks will continue ...! Happy New Year to you - D&Px
Perfect and I have a big syringe handy and just rebuilt my ZX-9R rear caliper!
Very good tips amigo thanks I have eak all this week trying to bleed the rear brake of my crf 250x now with this video I think is going to help a lot.
Glad it helped, good luck with getting it done !
Currently rebuilding my front & rear brakes (2001 ZRX 1200R) from caliper seals / braided lines/ master cylinder kits. You bring mechanical aptitude to an armatures ability to learn & understand to another level. Explaining the physics involved, gravity, surface tension, fluid mechanics etc. I feel myself thinking, well why didn't I think of that?.. Thank you so much. Plan the work / Work the plan. Your videos have (I'm sure) have saved me a lot of headaches.
HI mate.. thank you for such kind words of support, im glad the videos can help you out and make things a bit easier.. have fun wit it and feel free to drop me a line if you get stuck, always happy to help if i can. Cheers, Del.
Wicked! Thank you so much for all your amazing vids. I've learned so much watching your vids in the last years! ,Happy New Year to you and penny!! Safe riding :-)
Thanks Hanz, really appreciate your kind words, it's great to have such feedback - have a wonderful new year and ride safe buddy, D&Px
This video was a life saver I was stuck unill this guy came throu in the clutch for me, keep up the helpful vids bro.
Most welcome buddy. Glad I could help!
Great explanation mate. Thanks!
Delboy. Your tips are first class mate. Thank you so much for sharing this simple but incredibly useful information. Really appreciate it mate 👏👏👍👍
Thanks Mike. Happy to help mate .
Thanks so much. Took ages until I moved the lines to release bubbles. Wish I watched the video first and primed the lines beforehand. Anyway. All good now. Thank you 😊
You're welcome!
Another great video! Thanks.
finally i can bleed my back break, i've been trying for so long and nothing would make the piston of the caliper move the slightest, the gravity bleeding trick made it work, thank you so much!
Glad the video's helped you out, best of luck with the job on your bike!
Great video!
Sponginess: 1. air in the system 2. bad or falling master cylinder, less likely.
Zip tie brake lever will help, also, let it overnight.
Great tip with raising the caliper above reservoir.
Probably a good idea to have bleed nipple pointing up when you raise the caliper and bleed 😎
Some good tips there, thanks
I was so frustrated trying the normal bleed. this video saved me. thanks for such useful tips. 👍
You're welcome buddy, glad it helped you!
The most important thing is its done with simple manageable tools with clear cut concepts. Guru you are. 🙏
Just saved my bacon with this awesome tip - I'd been trying to get new lines bleed for 2 hours- this fixed the trick in 5 mins
Nice one mate, glad you cracked it, it can absolutely dirve you insane aye!
EXCELLENT VIDEO bro 👍
Brilliant video dude.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge throughout the years. Much appreciated excellent video. Big tanks from across the pond.
Thanks for watching Bob, and thank you for your kind feedback. !
Awesome video thanks so much for sharing
Thank you kindly for the tip saved me a lot of time. Cheers champ.
You're most welcome, glad it helped you mate!
I do the same method. I got a BIG syringe at the local Tractor Supply Store that is used for giving horses shots It works great. Interesting info about the tiny air bubbles in the fluid. I never thought about that
Yeah sure thing buddy, if you see any form of movement in the fluid as it flows out the bleed valve, that'll be micro-bubbles, sometimes they are so tiny they just look like dust, but if it's fresh, clean fluid it won't be dust and we tend to forget that they will all accumulate at the highest point and make a bubble, and it makes me cringe when I see people shake bottles! If you have some spare, or old fluid, just stick it in a glass bottle and shake it, it actually goes cloudy with mico-bubbles and stays that way for ages!
Only good explanation of this I could find. Thanks man
Glad it helped!
Great tip Del thanks 🖒😎
Super cool guy with knowledge!
Thanks a lot
Great presentation and method. Couple of comments. 1) with the rear caliper off and held high (starting 9:40) the bleed nipple should be held at THE highest piont in the system. 2) on Brembo calipers with the bleed nipple next to the banjo line connection the two are connected directly by a drilled gallery. This leaves the calper pistons out of the "circulation" loop and they do not get fresh fluid circulated thru them. Always fully compress all of the pistons into the caliper when changing the fluid.
You changing out brake line, with removing banjo bolt. I bought new banjo bolts that saved my life! TCB (Traction Controlled Braking) out of Texas makes an extended banjo bolt with air pocket an diaphragm that makes my non-ABS brakes feel an act like ABS brakes. Naturally, I did a before an after an was amazed! Reason: without TCB banjo turning off to right then hard braking caused rear wheel to break lose causing entire motorcycle rear end to break lose to direction of turn! Before braking can continue bike needs to straighten an get control of rear wheel slide out. Then brakes re-applied to stop. With TCB banjo bolt (just one part on each brake caliper) the bike could hard brake retaining rear wheel road integrity! So fast smooth braking with no rear wheel slide outs, no regaining control, no re-applying brakes a second time to stop. The saving my life part. Every year here in Washington State Hwy 101 we has Oyster Fest that's traffic controlled by state police. I have truck an flatbed with huge Ford backhoe on board in front of me. Car with kids pass me an darts in front of truck. Driver swerved to miss kid, wipes trailer an backhoe falls flat on 101 spinning with its boom now extended! No way to evade, (THANK HEAVENS FOR MY PROPER FOLLOWING DISTANCES) MY only option was immediate hard controlled Braking. The woman in red car pulls up from behind me an says, "I only saw anyone brake like that on TV, "your rear wheel was a foot off the road"! I look down an there is less than 2" from my front tire to the backhoe's arm an bucket. Thanks TCB, I know you saved me, because I know pre an post testing performance an under real road extreme requirements! Police were there in minute being so close an sighted truck driver for inadequate tie downs, the kids that caused it all just bolted up exit , made fast right an were gone. They got away but truck driver an all of us paid or could have paid dearly! Many put $ thousands into chrome or paint, an faster/stronger engine parts. Before that, think about needing better that stock braking, remember it's speed that's the mind rush, but its brakes that saves your life, an the beauty behind you!
Brilliant, many thanks. Now subscribed.
Nice one Del, looking forward to the Q & A tomorrow. Have a great weekend. Cheers
Thanks buddy, happy new year to you and yours ! D&Px
My Friend your video are excellent Thank you for going to the trouble of making them , i learn alot from them thanks again
Friend
Thank you for your kind words Frank, it makes it worth while when it is appreciated.
Great video, cheers mate.
Another awesome video... Thank you Del and Penny Happy New Year! Luv ya both,Rich from N.Y.
Hi buddy, same to you my friend... have a fabulous 2018, and thank you for all of your support this year, tc and ride safe, from your friends in Blighty, D&Px
À couple of good tips there bruv. When I started doing stuff on my bike 6 years ago even with a manual those tips to help you are not in it. Those things you have to work out on your own. I have always done all the work on my bike since owning it. I knew very little about bikes and what I did know was from old 2 stroke motorcrosres. It ain't hard, it's the little things like what you showed today and in other videos that are a massive help. Well done not a lot of people go into it that well and explain why. I know your channel has got me out off the shit several times. All the best for 2018 to both yourself and Penny and hope for even more great content lover the coming year.Take it easy ride safe both of you. Oh yeah............ Happy New Year D&P we luv ya.
Thanks Ray much appreciated, glad the videos could help you - all the best for 2018, all the best, D&Px
Thank you!!
Excellent..thanks mate !
nice one thanks for the upload your never to old to learn new tricks respect at you Del . Ride safe 😎👍
Thanks Harry, glad you enjoy them mate.
@@Moonfleet41 I'm actually doing this job tomorrow on my ZXR750H2 getting the old girl ready for the MOT and summer happy days😊 👍 stay safe bud 😉
Superb stuff 🙂
Great video mate. Many thanks 💪👍
My pleasure!
Thanks for the video. It was very informative, unlike some wasting time, and I learnt nothing. Nice one 👍 😊
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoyed it!
nice one, all the best.
The part about shaking the bottle! first time iv herd/thought about that ..Thanks u just solved my problem.
Most welcome 😊
Thanks for the great video's! Saved me a LOT of money on my 2017 H-D trike by doing the work myself rather than having to trust someone at HD to do it right.Hope you have a great New Year1
Hi buddy, I think we can trust Harley to do things right, but they do like to charge a lot for it! And after all, most of it is housekeeping and not technical stuff, so it's on us to help ourselves don't ya think?! Even with cars, any dealer will do whatever you ask them to do, and they have a business to run, I think partly the blame is on society, cos these days we've all become so helpless when it comes to manual maintenance, don't ya think?! And then again, that also goes for a lot of manual skills in life, from DIY to cookery, who bothers any more - shame aye?! Take care buddy, thanks for your support...Happy New Year!
Thanks for the tip Del. The last I did this I bought a vacuum kit to suck it through. The syringe would have been cheaper! Hope you and Penny had a great Christmas and Happy New Year to you both.
Lots of ways to do it buddy, and as I said in the video, there are plenty of ready made products out there to help us !
tip - when you hang the caliper up higher than the master/reservoir, be sure to keep the bleeder on top to get all the air to it. (you'll notice the bleeder is on top when the caliper is mounted on the bike)
I was going to mention this exact same thing.
@@DennisdeJong But ya didn't
Great vid Del - Cheers -
Cheers for the video Del, I'm about to do my first dry hose change on my TL1000s fighter build, this'll save me a bit of head banging..
Also an easy place to get decent size syringes from is your local agricultural merchant/equine store. They'll have loads of different sizes for medicating livestock. Although an average agri merchant is likely to be a lot cheaper than a horsey shop.
Also I've heard of people using poundland vibrators (!!!) to help get those remaining bubbles into one end of the hose. If guess if you cant afford SnapOn then go buy StrapOn lol...
Отличное видео!
Great video Del 👍
Glad you enjoyed it mate
Nice explanation 👍🏻
very useful video. Thanks mate. I had issues with my front brakes when I changed the rubber hoses to braided on my bike just as you said. My solution was to leave the bike for a day after I bled it to my best of my abilities then released the top bolt next to the reservoir. I put some old rags there to soak up the oil. Just a little oil was let out, then re-bled and that cured it. No more champagne bubbles. I do like your method better though so will use it for the next time.
Good going buddy, there are many ways to get round the issue, and I think we all have our favourites! I like the idea of cracking the bolt after a few days, just common sense aye?!
Moonfleet41 Another idea that I’ve read somewhere is to zip tie the front brake leaver for a few days. Supposedly this will compress the brake fluid which will bring up the air back up into the reservoir. A friend tried it an said it worked. It wouldn’t hurt to try if you’re a teeny weeny lazy I guess lol.
I had a feeling this video was coming! HEL just did a 40% off over Christmas I bought matching front lines to go with the rear I've already installed. Also, rubber hoses allow a gentler braking experience which some people prefer, it's us hooligan speed freaks who like the harsher feel of braided lines! Take it easy, Happy new year!
Thanks buddy, always good to grab a bargain aye?!! Ride safe for the new year... all the very best!
Thanks for sharing..
Superb vid, Del. I feel like I was in a proper classroom with the maestro! Can’t wait to see the look on our pharmacist’s face when I ask for a hypodermic! 😀. Happy new year to you both and take care of your broom!
Thanks buddy, I got a strange look too!! And what was even more irritating, was they didn't charge me for the syringe, as there is a policy here of handing them out free so that drug users can always use fresh needles, god knows what she was thinking about my story of bleeding brakes with it !! Ho hum, maybe I'll buy them online in future lol !
Moonfleet41 lmao!
Great vid bud. Ride safe
Man I so wish you where here in the states because you would be my new mechanic for my hayabusa. Thank you for the video.
Also I tend to look at everything with a bit more scientific point of view.
Also
Cheers del great tip and happy new year to you and pen!!!🏍
Thanks Mark, same to you buddy..
brilliant! might have to try this w my BMW K1200..... front brakes - since the guidance is to push the pistons back fully and hold back (tool) while bleeding... thanks!
Good point about not shaking the brake fluid. I get mine online, and I've never thought about it before, but it's undoubtedly been thoroughly shaken up through the post. Next time I'll let it rest for a couple of weeks and see if that makes a difference :D
Try a little trick buddy - put some fluid in a plastic water bottle, give it a good shake hard and watch what happens to it, you'll be amazed how long the tiny micro bubbles will sit suspended in the fluid almost like it's a gel..! You can also see how long it takes to dissipate... thanks for watching buddy, all the best for the new year !
Great Video
Thank you Delboy! your videos are fantastic, your explanations, your little tricks, you're really a good mechanic! long life to you my friend, keep sharing your skills my friend, 👍👏
Thank you for your kind words Richard, we're so pleased to hear you enjoy the videos!
Just looking at some of your older videos Del and love this one about reverse bleeding also a nice tip in one of the comments about the air double above the Banjo bolt, wee tip for anyone that needs a syringe in a hurry, apart from the chemist or pet store you can get 200/300/500ml from a veterinarian, they only charged me £2 for a 500ml.
Thanks for the cool tip on the syringe, those ones last a fair while, but eventually the rubber seals will perish with automotive fluids, you can buy some dedicated oil syringes now for this exact job!
Nice tip look forward to q and a