BUILDING A DROPBAR HARDTAIL

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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2023
  • DROPBARS ON A HARDTAIL?! Here's the build of what, quite frankly turned out to be amazing. Thanks Saddleback for the support with the Enve finishing kit to make this happen.
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Komentáře • 164

  • @dennis_aus_neukoelln
    @dennis_aus_neukoelln Před 11 měsíci +29

    This rig looks fantastic. And you are absolutely right, the perfect bike is the one that makes you happy riding it.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +3

      Exactly! And at the moment when still recovering from broken wrists this one is the one I enjoy riding

  • @babyrabies
    @babyrabies Před 11 měsíci +18

    I did exactly that on my hardtail except with a rigid fork and a surly corner bar. I'm just motivated to build a cheap gravel bike using bin parts. Turns out to be a keeper.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      That’s always lovely when that happens

    • @NunoLima1337
      @NunoLima1337 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Cheapskate Gravel ftw :)
      I'm going in the same direction with a Zniino carbon bar. I might add a pair of GRX -BL-RX812 brake levers to my mountain bike setup and still end up with a lower price than a full GRX brake and shifter set!

    • @BrianRPaterson
      @BrianRPaterson Před 29 dny

      My son has just done the same thing. Rigid fork, corner bar, and some ENVE wheels we got from a mate of mine who no longer rides QRs! He's thrilled with the build.

  • @jamesridley401
    @jamesridley401 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Great build. Love the attention to detail those guys have. 👌

  • @anderske7164
    @anderske7164 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Bike looks great. In the Netherlands and Belgium people do "beachracing",, They use a mix of hardtails with Flatbars or Dropbars. WIde rims and tyres. We also use a rigid fork 27 for a more "aero" position. So you can ride with very low tyre pressure. Check out brands like "storm"or "imming" or "wikkit" beachracers. But also converted MTB`s are used for it. Might be interesting to check this out

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 6 měsíci +3

      I've been aware of beach racing for a few years. Would love to try it out some time! My mate is the dutch national champ!

  • @jimpeyton1459
    @jimpeyton1459 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Sweet ride Chris. Can't wait for your first ride report.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I’ve had it built up and been using it for a while. Check back on the Sri Lanka and grinduro videos

  • @petrd1104
    @petrd1104 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just 2 hours ago I agreed the details of dropbar MTB transformation with my service shop. My "monster" shall be ready hopefully by end of February. GRX combination with XT derailleur and SLX 4 pistons. I am so excited... 😂 Litteraly all of friends think that I am crazy.

  • @CanyonWanderer
    @CanyonWanderer Před 11 měsíci +3

    This looks as sick as I had imagined it when you first mentioned it! Very curious how it handles !

  • @grahambell9831
    @grahambell9831 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Cool 😎 music, very cool " conversion " 😎......Saddleback + Enve + Cervelo = one very cool bike there, Chris ! Viewers will be well envious ! And it stands up on its own! 😉

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      It’s magical 🧙‍♂️

    • @grahambell9831
      @grahambell9831 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides the change in your handlebars stem etc Chris, might make other reconsider their own set ups.....sometimes we ( wrongly).....have a bike set up and that's it.........that should be the case? We should keep an open mind.......its magical! 🙂

  • @redauwg911
    @redauwg911 Před 11 měsíci +3

    would love to try that bike🚴‍♂

  • @x5-acousticguitarstuff.2
    @x5-acousticguitarstuff.2 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Absolutely beautiful Bike Build and Color.. Congratulations...

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson Před 11 měsíci +2

    That rocks... I NEED one...

  • @carloalfano334
    @carloalfano334 Před 11 měsíci +1

    been dealing with some arthritis in the thumb joints. I've got those same bar extenders on my hardtail. love them. about to switch to the same ergons to see if I can get more relief. If not, i'm heavily considering converting mine to a drop bar for better hand positioning.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I used them loads before when I had flat bars but for two broken wrists this has really helped me

    • @fluxkompensat0r711
      @fluxkompensat0r711 Před 4 měsíci

      you could try the surely corner bar and still use your old shifters and brakes. I will actually order one today and try it out for myself :)

  • @pedalbikebowes
    @pedalbikebowes Před 11 měsíci +1

    As long as you secure your Garmin with the little lanyard, I can see this working out just fine 👌🏼

  • @Choccytube
    @Choccytube Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love this, if it works for you, do it. Years ago I had bar ends on a full susser, and my mates laughed at it, until I flew up the climbs on it. The bar ends also stopped my hands sliding off the grips on wet descents. It never looked as good as this bike though, the orange forks do set it off well.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 10 měsíci

      Exactly that. If it works for you then definitely worth it isn’t it?

  • @cb6866
    @cb6866 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Thanks Chris...I thought you were going up the stair on the first lap ......the most capable bike ever ? Very cool.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      It’s so fun

    • @cb6866
      @cb6866 Před 11 měsíci

      Smiling all the way ! good for you , Chris @@ChrisHallRides

  • @nickcarolan2805
    @nickcarolan2805 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I like that. Nice machine. 👍🇮🇪

  • @gehteuchnixan69
    @gehteuchnixan69 Před 11 měsíci +29

    Definitely makes more sense than gravel bikes

    • @yourdeadjack
      @yourdeadjack Před 11 měsíci +2

      Depends on terrain and n + 1.

    • @timdixo
      @timdixo Před 11 měsíci +4

      For you maybe but will not if you’re mixed surface pie chart is weighted more to road.

    • @johnr8820
      @johnr8820 Před 6 měsíci

      I think weight is a major factor in seeing this as an inferior option. But obviously it’s more so the kind of riding one is doing.

  • @Hansenrum2000
    @Hansenrum2000 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi Chris, thanks for all the nice videos. Much appreciated 😘I have one question regarding the fork lockout. I wonder whether the manual lockout works with a fully stuffed bike (e.g. with a handlebar roll, food pouches..) or a remote lockout solution would be a better solution. What is your experience? Thanks and greetz from Berlin, André

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Thanks for watching! I had a remote lockout on it when it was a hardtail and yes with a big roll it definitely helps. But with most of the smaller bar bags I’ve not found it an issue to reach it and use it

  • @williamwyn
    @williamwyn Před 11 měsíci +1

    Great idea!

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci

      I think so too!

    • @williamwyn
      @williamwyn Před 11 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides The compfort of a hard tail and the areo of gravel

  • @noorbabelli
    @noorbabelli Před měsícem

    Your video inspired me to create my own one iam fighting between trek and specialized to build one .. trek said they couldn't build and specialized said that this idea will change the form and balance of mtb but who care it looks badass 😎

  • @pgh36
    @pgh36 Před měsícem +1

    Can you install a dropper seat post with that set up? How would you set it up with the cable?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před měsícem

      Yep you could! You’d need to run a drop bar dropper lever which I know Enve, PRO and Wolf Tooth make. It basicallly would run inside the shifter on the drops. We recently installed a dropper on an Argon 18 Grey Matter build which you can watch on this channel

  • @cneubert28
    @cneubert28 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Love a drop bar mountain bike. Question, what tire width did you go with? I've been trying to figure out what the best width and tread for my bike since it's mainly used for trail a gravel.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I’m using 2.35 schwalbe Racing Ray and Racing Ralph combo

  • @joffbrown
    @joffbrown Před 11 měsíci +1

    It’s nuts but it’s amazing

  • @fucktheworld1207
    @fucktheworld1207 Před 11 měsíci +1

    A cool, crazy, nuts bike, just like it's owner 👌🏻😜👌🏻 so that's a win, win all round 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

  • @jamesbont7052
    @jamesbont7052 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Nice Gravelbike.

  • @omare_biketonature
    @omare_biketonature Před 10 měsíci +2

    It would be nice if you could list the parts and specs for compatibility, looks super cool 😎 I might want to try this on my XC bike, cheers Chris!

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 10 měsíci +2

      No problem! It’s GRX di2 shifters, xtr crankset with a 32t chainring and an xtr di2 rear mech (11 speed, they’re quite hard to get hold of now) with an 11-46 cassette

    • @magnusparkler7588
      @magnusparkler7588 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides Hi! MTB brake caliper with Grx levers, any compatibility issues?

  • @db613
    @db613 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Getting a bad ass tire off the bead, you need to wear thick gardening gloves with the rubberized fingers, and use v clamps around the tire then grab the tread to firmly slide it off at 6 inches apart

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +2

      The irony is a week later I did it even with my broken wrists 😅

  • @mpgunawan
    @mpgunawan Před 11 měsíci +1

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @jellybeans786
    @jellybeans786 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This was then exact idea I had to put drops on a hardtail

  • @leighnicholson2606
    @leighnicholson2606 Před 6 měsíci

    My issue with these conversions is getting a bigger chainring than a 38t. A 42t should be possible with a slight variation in the chainline?

  • @f87max30
    @f87max30 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Cool bike man. Love the color. Do you go down a size to compensate for the drpbar, or use the same size as a flatbar bike ?

  • @bobbyt7444
    @bobbyt7444 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Reminds me of Dylan Johnson's Lando

  • @rphillips6461
    @rphillips6461 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi, what are the bar extenders on the flatbars? They look a bit like the hoods of racing bike brake levers... and what's the music in this vid? Cheers.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 7 měsíci

      SQ Labs Inner Barends: www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083ZN76PH/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_RJB4HSTY45VVS8VRE319?linkCode=ml1&tag=christoph0103-21

  • @OSR_1
    @OSR_1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey man, love the idea and will likely be making a build like this myself soon.. how did you find the reach? That seems like the one issue that might arise? Noticed you have a shorter stem on there though, guessing that’s to counteract that?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yep exactly. I would normally ride a 90mm stem so swapping to a shorter one helps to counteract the longer reach you get from the drop bars

    • @OSR_1
      @OSR_1 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides thanks for the quick response, really appreciate it! Yeah assuming I’ll probably need to find 40-60mm to make it feel nice.
      All the best!

  • @adamossowski7627
    @adamossowski7627 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Great build! Where did the battery go?

  • @jasondehetre2898
    @jasondehetre2898 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What about the reach when switching from flat bar to drop bar? Are the hoods not much further away now?
    Great build though!!

  • @Froxdj
    @Froxdj Před 5 měsíci +1

    thinking of doing the same bud, wanted to ask you, when it comes to the brake housing did you have to replace all of the cables or did you use the original ones to use on the shifters? or did you have to replace the whole brake housing to accommodate the shifters?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 5 měsíci

      Used the existing break hosing

    • @Froxdj
      @Froxdj Před 5 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides nice bro, did they work with the shifters ok? did you need to use an adapter to connect them to the shifters or are they the same connections?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 4 měsíci

      Hoses are the same size and so connected up absolutely perfect. Brake calipers are 2 pot xtr brakes

    • @Froxdj
      @Froxdj Před 4 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides perfect thanks for letting me know bud. Well excited to build up a new bike

  • @abhirampavuluri5167
    @abhirampavuluri5167 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Would it be good for a road ride? Say, after some slicks and a mini aero set up.. I have a ZHT and I’m thinking about the conversion but also have a 150 mile road ride which I might use the same bike for

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 3 měsíci

      It’ll be ok. I wouldn’t necessarily say good though to be honest as it’s very much meant to be a mtb after all

    • @abhirampavuluri5167
      @abhirampavuluri5167 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides for sure. Thanks!

  • @nebulous962
    @nebulous962 Před 3 měsíci +1

    i think we need to call it gravel pro :D

  • @keepingtherubberdown5715
    @keepingtherubberdown5715 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Curious how you will find riding drop bars on your hardtail. I have been considering this as well for some time. Just a big investment to swap out.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +2

      I absolutely love it. I’ve had it set up like this for a while now. Took it to Sri Lanka. Used it for grinduro and for the global bike festival, all are filmed as vlogs here so worth having a watch back

    • @keepingtherubberdown5715
      @keepingtherubberdown5715 Před 11 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides Thanks for feedback.. One other question for you. When you did the conversion, were you able to just swap out brake levers and leave calipers or did you have to swap levers and calipers to work the brakes. Just trying to figure out if I need purchase an entire kit to covert my hard tail..

  • @mangiantonio
    @mangiantonio Před 4 měsíci +1

    fantastic project, but in the end, when it comes to brakes do you recommend 2 or 4 piston calipers?
    (because I understand that the GRX manages 2 pistons)

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I used 2 piston

    • @mangiantonio
      @mangiantonio Před 4 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides ok, and the braking is good right?

    • @br5380
      @br5380 Před 3 měsíci

      If you think you need more 'braking', size up on rotor(s).
      FWIW while I've a 4-piston on the front of my enduro bike, still use a 2-piston on the rear - both on 203mm rotors.

  • @jamesklydecapul6582
    @jamesklydecapul6582 Před 11 měsíci

    Does it have better shifting?? Or there's a problem with shifting?

  • @br5380
    @br5380 Před 3 měsíci +7

    If it'll benefit from a suspension fork it'll benefit from a dropper.

  • @christopherhood9241
    @christopherhood9241 Před 11 měsíci +1

    looks awesome - drop bars on a mountain bike is good enough for Lea Wilcox.

  • @alkfema
    @alkfema Před 11 měsíci +1

    Hey chris, how come you dont go with the Fidlock bottle system?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci

      They’re bloody expensive

    • @alkfema
      @alkfema Před 11 měsíci

      I didnt know price still matters for you :P@@ChrisHallRides

  • @JRd941
    @JRd941 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Will be sticking 100mm suspension on my salsa cutthroat. Same solution just starting at different ends.

  • @db613
    @db613 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Can't wait for specialized to have s-works aero suspension forks😀

  • @SergioRS75
    @SergioRS75 Před 10 měsíci

    What covers were mounted? I see them very wide for long routes

  • @jpauldion
    @jpauldion Před 5 měsíci

    This rig is sweet! Can it take a bigger chainring up front? Needs to be 38-42 tooth for faster gravel!!

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 5 měsíci

      Probably 38 but not so sure about much bigger

  • @Tpreynolds123
    @Tpreynolds123 Před 4 měsíci +2

    What are the handlebars you used here?

  • @sarvagya1994
    @sarvagya1994 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Now thats a cyclocross atlast people are building the right after years

  • @harcherboy
    @harcherboy Před 9 měsíci +1

    way better than a gravel bike

  • @sgtthor7830
    @sgtthor7830 Před 5 měsíci

    What bars did you install?

  • @stuartmclean3843
    @stuartmclean3843 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've got a 120mm road stem fitted on my mtb, that's as far as I've gone 😂

  • @noorbabelli
    @noorbabelli Před měsícem

    Kindly can you also share how to get the original fox suspension as many are fake and you want a good investment in your bike so if there any link you could share

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 28 dny +1

      In the UK theyre distributed by Silverfish so I would purchase from them

  • @stevebaldwin6691
    @stevebaldwin6691 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You are John Tomac!!

  • @toki3861
    @toki3861 Před 5 měsíci +1

    what are those brake levers?

  • @jayhagsrc3322
    @jayhagsrc3322 Před 28 dny +1

    Not to take away from your beautiful build but a Salsa Fargo or a Salsa Cutthroat are factory made drop bar mountain bikes sans suspension fork

  • @BetterShifting
    @BetterShifting Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love it! I'll probably do the same when I buy some SRAM parts :)

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Wait you’re a SHIMANO person through and through 👀

    • @BetterShifting
      @BetterShifting Před 11 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides haha - perhaps I'll cheat on Shimano next year :) :)
      (still mainly Di2 though, no worries!)

  • @stevenfeffer2391
    @stevenfeffer2391 Před 9 měsíci

    How much does it weigh?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 9 měsíci

      I think it weighed like 10kg if I remember right. Maybe less

  • @rameseslizardo5065
    @rameseslizardo5065 Před 8 měsíci +1

    What size of the Enve dropbar? Its amazing setup

  • @trailingupwards
    @trailingupwards Před 4 měsíci +1

    Isnt this basically a Salsa Cutthroat with a suspension fork?

  • @biking261
    @biking261 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Is this not the bike you rode in Sri Lanka?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Correct, we just hadn’t got round to getting the video edited

    • @biking261
      @biking261 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@ChrisHallRides I passed the test for paying attention then 🤣

  • @mlee6136
    @mlee6136 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yup I’ve been saying this for years, why not just use a hardtail Mtb for gravel bikes…. Sigh, it was all just a $$$ marketing scheme from manufacturers. We are now coming full circle.

  • @johnsmith-ke2sr
    @johnsmith-ke2sr Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yes, it's cool but why does no one actually make these? Tis is what a gravel bike should be and with a lowest climbing gear below 20 gear inches. Come on lets have a production version please?

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 4 měsíci

      I think we will start to see changes in the industry over the next year or so

  • @georgekrpan3181
    @georgekrpan3181 Před 6 měsíci

    All that just to put on a drop bar. If the clamps of the MTB levers could accommodate 23.8mm bars putting on a drop bar would take a half hour. True, there'd be no hoods to ride but that wouldn't bother me.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 6 měsíci +1

      If that’s what you fancy doing, there’s bars that allow you to do it. I think maybe curve make them or surley or someone.

    • @georgekrpan3181
      @georgekrpan3181 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ChrisHallRides Cheers Chris! The Surly Corner Bar works well.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 5 měsíci

      👍

  • @verdi6092
    @verdi6092 Před 7 měsíci

    😂

  • @stuartpotter4923
    @stuartpotter4923 Před 11 měsíci

    Why cutting down bars?!

  • @joshpain349
    @joshpain349 Před 3 měsíci

    Cmon….34.s @ 130mm? Too much

  • @maciek6086
    @maciek6086 Před 6 měsíci

    but but why???

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 6 měsíci

      If you’d seen some of my other videos you’d realise I broke both wrists and needed the comfort

    • @maciek6086
      @maciek6086 Před 6 měsíci +1

      understod i just realized that you prefer ride long distans gravel road ,but i thought about i can't imagine that ride mtb style with dropbar@@ChrisHallRides

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 5 měsíci

      It rides fantastic

  • @nanoverse
    @nanoverse Před 3 měsíci

    Too much fork.

  • @LeoInterHyenaem
    @LeoInterHyenaem Před 2 měsíci

    Beautiful bike. I love the elegant non-drop seatstays, the sloping top tube and almost everything else, but:
    - the handlebars: I much prefer flattop / ergonomic dropbars .
    - The frame is beautiful, but in practice the longer top tube means a 5-10cm excessive reach.

    • @ChrisHallRides
      @ChrisHallRides  Před 2 měsíci

      Depends on your fit. This worked fantastic for me

    • @LeoInterHyenaem
      @LeoInterHyenaem Před 2 měsíci

      @@ChrisHallRides Does it not feel a tad longer than with the flat bars on? Or is the reach much the same?