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It's crazy that the "horrible horrible thing" that would happen to Gabriel was him forgetting about his time spent with Beelzebub
thats so cute lmao
I MISSED THAT OMFG HOW ARE THE BUREAUCRATS I MEAN THE SHIPPERS HOLDING UP
And locked away from hell or earth
Omg i missed that i was so sad over the ending i missed it
The "I forgive you" was painful as hell, but Aziraphale's "Oh Crowley...nothing lasts forever" regarding the bookshop sent actual chills down my spine, the way he says it like...wtf who are you and what have you done to Aziraphale???
That "nothing lasts forever" was SO out of character. I can believe that Azi actually thinks everything he said, but not that. NOT THAT.
He MEANS that he could leave the bookshop if he and Crowley could be safe together; what Crowley HEARS is "not even us". Do you understand. They. Don't. Communicate. Well. Argh
he’s basically saying “do you think i care more about the bookshop than about being together in heaven?” and crowley hears “not even us can last forever”
@@lieutenantdan1503I actually think it was meant as a sacrifice? Like nothing lasts forever but he’ll be willing to give up on all the meaningful things he enjoys in earth for spending eternity with Crowley, in a safe space. Also, I think that the point of the scenes with pre Fall Crowley and Aziraphale were to make us see Crowley through Azi’s eyes: he was happy and enthusiastic and did not suffer, and Aziraphale wants to give Crowley a second chance at experiencing that kind of purity again, because he felt that Crowley did not deserve to fall for only asking questions. At least that’s my take on it
This thread is free therapy I love you all
I got spoiled on the kiss a month prior, spent the entire month keeping my mouth shut to my entire family. I was prepared for an ocean of happy tears, but as I was watching and it became clear what was happening, all I could do was stare at my screen with my mouth open in horror, begging for it not to end like that. I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT FOR THAT??!!! I do not care if I have to burn out my computer doing it, I will watch the show on repeat until we get that Season 3.
Metatron literally made Aziraphale into the next Jesus: making him sacrifice his life on Earth to supposedly protect the world, turning Crowley from the demon who kissed his angel out of love and desperation to make him stay, to Judas the betrayer who kissed his friend to sell him out to his enemies.
Wow what an analysis
right, this is the real reason why gaiman was mad about the EVERY leak
Im grateful and glad you and everyone else who got spoiled kept your mouths shut, cause even though experiencing it this way around must have sucked for you, it was fucking beautiful to experience for someone who had not been spoiled. Cause if youre a queer fandom veteran and you don't know that that is coming at all, you don't care much that the context is sad. Shows are sad all the time. There's conflict and parting and pain all the time, but never with the fckn blessing of the ship becoming Canon. I felt so seen by this reaction video for that reason. It genuinely feels healing. Catholic school etc. I refer to the season as Religious Trauma 2. Im so unbelievably sorry for you and everyone who was expecting to celebrate and then must have felt so hurt and betrayed. But sincerely Thank You for enabling me and others to have the experience we were all supposed to have.
You all are my spoiler angels now. A whole month. I'm joining you as I am waiting for my friends to catch up, not spoiling them even though I want to with every fibre of my being xD
I thought the Metatron was talking about Jesus Christ, but your theory is very interesting.
I don't want to jinx it but I think it's highly likely Amazon will renew it:
1. The set is still up in the studio in Bathgate
2. Amazon *heavily* promoted S2
3. It's #1 in many countries, including the UK. I think it was #2 in the US last I heard
4. Largely positive reception from critics
5. Amazon has also opened a merch store for Good Omens
Obviously, the strikes put a spanner in the works. The good news is Neil has already written a couple episodes and the last 15ish minutes of S3. As soon as the strikes are resolved, he'll be back to writing for it. He said if they start filming early 2024 then it should be ready by 2026.
Oh god 2026! My poor heart. 😭
well I’ve been a fan since 2014. I waited years for season 1 and season 2. I can handle another few years…. maybe😂
I can wait two years! I need a new season! ❤❤❤
Also, I've already watched the entire series through 3 times on my Amazon account , and once on my friends Amazon account. 😊😅
Wait... When did he say that tho? I just checked his tweeter and all I saw was him saying that it's planned and plotted and he'll be writing the scripts as soon as the strikes are over. But I didn't know he also said that he has already written that much and we can have a release by 2026. Where did he say it? Is it on something other than twitter?
@@annikadas6317tumblr, I believe
Everyone who's pretty sure Crowley used to be an Archangel, raise your hand! 🖐
Oh I mean he definitely was. He had the passwords!
archangel Raphael to be specific
@@alliyahjanecaelestis1512 I believe it's very clear after this season that the starker angel that Crowley was had a very high rank, Archangel, Supreme Archangel or how did the Metatron put it, Prince of heaven or was it Duke? I'm not sure what his angelic name was, but it will be a BIG reveal.
Yes! Hopefully in season three we'll get a name.
There was a picture i came across on tumblr of furfur’s book detailing about Aziraphale, and some notes about crowley next to a description of another angel with “jinger hair” (it was spelled all funky along those lines). When i looked up said angels name on Wikipedia they were in fact an archangel with some powers including relation to lightening (that we see Crowley exude in anger in S2)
SEEING YOU GO THROUGH THE 5 STAGES OF GRIEF IN LIKE 20 SECONDS LMAO 😭
This also explaines why Beelzebub was so insistend that Crowley come to her _first_ with information about Gabriel. Not so much to get him before Heaven, but to make sure he's okay
"I forgive you" I see aziraphale took a page of the hannibal lecters handbook
OH MY GOD
SCREECHING
Neil Gaiman has said in previous posts that this series is basically a filler series, to set up what he and Terry Pratchett talked about if they got round to writing a sequel fir the book. The real continuation will be series 3 which he had already started writing. He stopped just now because of the writers and actors strike.
He posted somewhere that he finished writing Season 3. He obviously can’t submit it to the studio as a union guy due to the strike, though.
@@GingerPeacenikhe posted literally this week that he emailed what he had finished so far for season 3 to himself and stopped working on it while the strike is on. I’m not sure where you’re getting that he’s finished it already, because if h posted that in public that is absolutely crossing the picket.
Yep, that is true. And he also said S3 would be like S1.
Keep on rewatching guys, together we can make season 3 happen 🙌❤
4x and counting
I am on watch 4
I have it on in the background while doing chores😂😂😂
I ve been so sherlocked for years that i still cant believe the kiss happened
I'm still ... quaking after this finale.
I knew nothing about the kiss and had no reason to expect it. As you and I and the rest of us have said, I've been burned too many times. I can't remember the last time I was so shocked by a ship(s) becoming canon. And why like that?! It broke my heart 💔Yet narratively, it makes too much sense. The backslide started the moment Metatron showed up and when Nina & Maggie had the sit down with Crowley about him and Az *not talking to each other!*
They haven't been. Yes, they're ineffable husbands who undeniably love each other but they haven't actually *talked* about anything beneath the surface. Az was surprised (& moved) when Crowley admitted Az was his best friend in S1. They know each other and yet they don't.
S2 established this and that they don't *anything* about the nuances of romantic love. The whole "get Maggie & Nina together" is proof. Crowley thinks it'll be easy, "just a big kiss and boom, it's done." and Az thinks all they need is a fancy party and dancing. They both think love's straightforward, just hit the common checkpoints and boom, two people are in love. And then ... they realize just how wrong they are.
S2 deserves a better deconstruction - the dialogue choices, Az/Crow & Maggie/Nina parallels, the significance of Crowley w/ sunglasses vs Crowley w/out sunglasses, *the FINALE* - than I'm mentally and emotionally prepared to do at the moment. So I'll leave that to someone else while I just .....😵💫
I really like your analysis, do not hesitate to come back if you have noticed anything else (excuse me, I use google trad) 😊
I honestly think that Az didn't catch that Crowley was referring to him as the best friend in S1. He offered a sincere but brief condolence and moved on. I think it flew right over his head.
The thing that Aziraphale doesn't get, that Crowley understands all too well, is that Heaven and Hell are only aesthetically different. Offering to Return Crowley to "Full Angelic Status" proves it. Because if they can just _Do That_ WITHOUT GOD being involved? Then why did he Fall in the first place and what is the true difference between him now and him Restored to being an Angel? How can they just _Decide_ he's not a demon anymore? It's certainly not because of his good deeds and kind heart because he hides those and Heaven wouldn't give a shit anyway. So why, other than to persuade Aziraphale, would he be granted this?
And that's exactly the point, Crowley knows who he is and what he's about, and Aziraphale doesn't. Aziraphale still believes that Heaven is GOOD and Hell is BAD and sure, Heaven has hurt him and has made mistakes, but they're still, deep down, the Good guys. (And therefore Crowley deserves to come "Home" because he is GOOD and finally he can be what he was always meant to be, an Angel. And now they can live happily ever after, just as God surely intended, etc.) Crowley knows better because the good guys don't arbitrarily punish people just for asking questions.
Also, while Crowley saw Gabriel and Beelzebub going off as proof that he and Aziraphale can be together, Aziraphale saw it as proof that Heaven can be fixed. Because if GABRIEL can change and become nicer, then surely other important people in Heaven can change too if given the chance.
But Aziraphale fails to recognise that Gabriel only changed because he went OUTSIDE the system. Because he operated outside of Heaven's parameters. Furthermore, his relationship with Beelzebub is further proof of Heaven and Hell's similarities. The two of them were experiencing the same stress, problems, and just wanted their lives to be easier. It's like Neil said: Heaven is the penthouse and Hell is the basement, but they're both in the same goddamm building.
Absolutely agreed with everything on this thread. It may hurt like a motherfucker rn, but Zira definitely needs the wake-up call he's about to get in s3 if him and Crowley were ever going to work. Hell, they both do to be honest. They might even unfuck this whole situation with the homicidal abrahamic god along the way. They are just so *so* bad at communicating! And what could be more human than that?
I trust Neil Gaiman to know what's best for their characters, we just have to be patient.
9:49 ... oh my God. David doing that 'juuuuuuust about to burst into tears' thing, but biting it back. Amazing acting. That was when the tears started for me.
The part about "walking up to that line and never crossing it" I felt that in my bones. I've been a jaded shipper the last several years and that kiss just blew me away. I was full on screaming.
And that kiss is totally the background on my laptop right now and will probably be for a very long time!
Destiel shippers are a good example. We got robbed so badly. The fact that Aziraphale + Crowley is officially canon is so healing and wonderful, in spite of the heartbreaking ending. 💔
@@drezdendolla.9143 Agree!!!!!! Huge Destiel shipper here and I hated how the writers would play with our heads and hearts with no real reward. I KNEW Cas's confession just before dying was the best we'd ever get. By the end my brain was like "at LEAST give us something like that" I knew better than to hope for a kiss or for Dean to confirm his own feelings.
“Are they ok?! They must be fucking deceased right now!”
I promise you: us Ineffable Bureaucracy shippers are MORE than ok and we’ve never felt more alive and validated. 😂🖤💜
In all seriousness, I totally saw this coming. Every time Beelz came onscreen I was like, “No, they are clearly worried about Gabriel and are trying their damndest to hide it. Plus it’s obviously one of their flies in the bookshop. I’m gonna be shocked if this doesn’t end with Gabe and Beelz in a relationship !”
"We could have been. . .us." And my heart broke.
Hey btw Beelzebub offered the Duke of Hell position to Crowley because after Gabriel went missing they decided that if they found them they would just run off together.
Everyone was always talking about how what they thought what was most heartbreaking, but you know what I think? "Well of course you didn't choose hell your the bad guys." After asking a few harmless questions and being thrown down from heaven just to be casted away from what he loved most, that line would hurt me intensely if I was Crowley.
I understand that a lot of people were left distraught after this finale, but I just... wasn't. Not because I was not emotionally affected by the series, far from it, but because I see the hope in this.
Aziraphael and Crowley were not speaking honestly to each other. And becuase of this were unaware that they weren't on the exact same page. And they needed to be made aware of this, in order to be able to move to that better place.
And the parallel to Maggie and Nina says pretty outright, that just because they aren't in the right place now to be together (and they aren't), it doesn't mean that at some point in the future they won't get there. Maggie's sidenote that she won't be moving on from Nina gives further hope that all is not lost.
I'm commenting this everywhere and my comments keep getting removed, but here we go again: I actually think ineffectualdemon and Ariaste hit the nail on the head with their analyses. 1. Aziraphale is a liar who has been shown lying a lot (especially to Crowley so that he can feel strong saving him; the bumbly bookshop persona is an act) and being secretly a bada$$ (carved out gun compartment in his book). 2. Neil Gaiman has been tricking and misleading us very carefully with this weird season that is actually meticulously planned chaos. I highly suggest looking up the analyses ♡ Ariaste's essay "The magic trick you did not see" and ineffectualdemon's much shorter post "Aziraphale is a lying liar who lies"
2:02 I knew Crowley (who refused to say his real name in the flashback) was higher up than anyone thought.
I think people do not understand how it feels to grow up in the 90s and always see queer subtext, and now Crowley and Aziraphale are CANON ROMANTIC. they are text. no more speculation, no more dealing w dudebros who say "do we not believe in friendship anymore" yadda yadda. it's The Natural Outcome but I am still so in shock and so relieved😊
I'm so glad we got Gabe and Beez, they're so cute! Now I'm gonna go continue making my Crowley snake plush to recover from the emotional damage of seeing the last 10 minutes of ep6 again.
NO WAY you make crowley snake plush?! That tha best thing I heard for today. Where can I see them, how are you making them?
I don't know if you've ever watched Staged, but the ending sequence with the split-screen between Crowley and Aziraphale is eerily reflective of the ending of Staged 3. I don't think it was a coincidence and maybe Staged was foreshadowing what would happen in Good Omens...
To be honest, Staged left me more heartbroken than Good Omens on first watch because I wasn't expecting the Staged ending, while I had time to brace myself for where Good Omens was heading (the pain instead grows with each rewatch). I'm still trusting Neil to give us a happy final end in the next part, whatever format it takes.
Now, personal opinion/rant time: I didn't see the kiss itself as romantic. At least, not wholly, or in a typical sense.
What I mean is, their entire relationship goes beyond human ideas of romance; it's different and/or more than that, so I don't expect them to express it in human ways. (That's not to say that I'm upset by the kiss, because I'm not, but I think their love story was already validated, whether or not the kiss took place.)
Crowley's intention with the kiss felt more like a last ditch effort to get through to Aziraphale the weight of his decision. In that moment, Crowley knew that he and Aziraphale were at an impasse; that Aziraphale was being too naively hopeful of what change he could actually make to the system. Nor was Aziraphale listening to what Crowley wanted: to give their relationship clarity and have their own "Gabriel and Beelzebub Ending".
Despite the obviousness of their love, there has always been a line. As long as they never confronted that line, never gave clarity, they could continue on as they were. Aziraphale is always the one reminding Crowley of that line and I think it comes down to him never fully accepting that Crowley is a demon; that he, Aziraphale, loves a demon. He accepts and is happy for Gabriel and Beelzebub of course, because they are other people, but it's a different matter when it comes to himself. (This is supported by him being gleeful at the thought of giving Crowley back his angelic status, even when everyone and God themself know that Crowley would never want it back.)
When Crowley realizes he's already lost Aziraphale, he decides to cross that line, in a very "human" way, in a final attempt to make Aziraphale understand him and what they're losing.
Of course, they're not human, but humanity has become one of the pillars of their existence together. They enjoy being on Earth and have fought very hard to keep it, so a kiss, which is a very human thing to do, is the perfect symbol for Crowley to show Aziraphale that he's being an idiot for wanting to give up everything they've built together, while on Earth.
The kiss itself is not pretty and I don't think it's meant to be. Crowley tightly grasps Aziraphale by his lapels and pulls them together, more so just holding him in place, mouths together, rather than engaging in the kiss. He doesn't want to let him go because it may be the only time and the only way that Aziraphale will understand; using a "human" gesture gives the clarity needed in that moment because humanity is a bridge between them, not neccessarily because it's how they would express intimacy.
Crowley saying "You idiot. We could have been, Us." is a perfect way to describe their relationship because it goes beyond words, beyond action. However, since Aziraphale was playing dumb (or maybe being genuinely stupid), Crowley decided to dumb it down for him into a simpler action.
The entire scene beginning with Crowley's confession (for which David deserves an award) and ending with Aziraphale's reaction/rejection (which is a separate rant because there's so many things going on there, but give Michael an award too), is just so much more than human romance.
It takes more space, has more weight, shows more time...
It's ineffably them and it's ineffably painful.
Rant over.
your comment should be pinned 😀
The Good Omens fandom's major crossovers in fanbase can be seen on the fandom tags of Ao3
**Supernatural, Lucifer (haven't watched), Harry Potter, Sherlock, Doctor Who, Merlin and the MCU**
These shows have 3 things in common.
*1) They are not love stories, and are based on some sort of fantasy or unrealistic element*
*2) They have incredibly popular queer ships which never come to fruition*
*3) Many have implications of queer relationships, and end up chalking it down to 'best buddies' (Johnlock, Wolfstar, Destiel kinda since they killed him off instantly)*
People in the Good Omens fandom are used to seeing queer-coded 'soulmates', who are then revealed to be entirely 'straight'
They are used to writers making fun of the ship, fanfiction and fans themselves (cough* cough* Sherlock).
To see a ship, in a TV show format notorious for queerbaiting (since, with shows like Young Royals and Heartstopper, we are aware the love story is the main and often sole focus of the narrative, these shows also establish this canon earlier than the fans can ship them), is nothing short of a miracle.
I think Our Flag Means Death really started this deviation- but even then it was less surprising. Good Omens s1 was not a show that contained an abundance of queer relationships and characters.
That's why this development, this canon, is so very shocking to fans.
We've been here before; seen a similar relationship.
We've just never seen the leap.
Edit cause I'm getting a lot of similar comments: For this, I just looked at the top most crossover-ed fandoms on Ao3 for Good Omens. I haven't watched much of Doctor Who myself, same with Lucifer. So I apologise if I've placed misinformation regarding these specific shows.
Praise you and you comment, you helped me to understand my feelings. My dear friend you need to spread your wisdom, please. Im afraid that on part of this fandom could turn bitter and start to writte mean stuff to the people involved in Good Omens, they could scare them of, we can't let that happen
Can I repost this on insta?
@@lillyihaveaaccountnow7388 Oh my gosh of course!
@@lillyihaveaaccountnow7388 I've seen fans be 'mad' at Neil Gaiman, but it's certainly out of love for the characters and source material. They aren't actually mad at him, and he knows that.
As long as people don't overreact, basically by assuming that these people who are 'mad' at Neil are actually mad at him. We'll be good to go. (I'm sure we're all aware of how folks on twitter can overinflate drama, to create this strange community of people 'rightfully' offended at the most minor things)
Good Omens s2 is #1 in 108 countries at this moment- and was #1 in the world for about two days.
It is now #2 in the world just under 'the summer I turned pretty' (which is #1 in 113 countries, just about overtaking it) (this show is a massive hit for prime also).
If fans keep this devotion to the series up, we will get our season 3 :)
Kindly leave Doctor Who out of this. Doctor Who has had queer couples for a long time and gave us Jack Fucking Harkness and consequently Torchwood. Which, fair, didn't exactly end happily for the queer couple but that should be attributed more to the overall tone of the show than the fact that the main couple was queer.
I can't take this anymore, that ending brutally murdered me emotionally 😭 There better be a happy ending for them eventually, I swear
I am descending into madness 🫠
This was a CLASSIC move in romantic narrative structure. There's (almost) always a huge rift at the end of act two so that they can come back together in the big finale, no worries. I mean...I'm still curled up on the floor sobbing but I'm not *worried* about it.
@@GaywatchI am not worried too, because there should be season 3 with this kind of ending. But that will probably take a couple of years to make it 😢.
@@Chameleon-wq4ulpretty sure Neil said it would come out like late 2025 or early 2026 and it will have a happy ending
Personally I think gods test is for his angels (including the now demons) and Crowley is the only one currently passing
You are quite the optimist. Good luck with that.
It's a nice theory, actually. God didn't seem to actually side with Heaven on her narration at Season One.
My idea is that the Ineffable Plan is SUPPOSED to include both sides learning to embrace Shades of Grey rather than how they are now, with their polar extremes. I think the point of this season is to show the audience that Heaven's extreme is just as harmful as that of Hell.
I also suspect part of the Plan is for angels and demons (and angels and angels, and demons and demons) to eventually pair up (or group up, not to exclude Poly people) and by learning how to Love, they are finally following the REAL Plan.
And Gabriel and belzebub
The way this season ends is the perfect emotional cliffhanger for the middle part of a trilogy. Aziraphale going to heaven is its Han Solo in carbonite. The narrative demands the third part, and I believe it will happen barring devastating unforeseen disasters. No way will Amazon not want it. It's very popular and not even that high budget compared to things like Rings of Power and the Wheel of Time.
Am i the only one who was in total denial and watched the WHOLE end credit hopping one of them would go rejoin the other ? I need season 3 please 😭 (i'm pretty optimist about it 'cause apparently it worked very well in UK and in the US, and i know the serie is in the top 3 in France)
I just watched it and kept waiting for Azi to appear in the car 😢
Every relationship in season 2 is a mirror for Crowley/Aziraphel
You don't even understand the level of pain the last 15 minutes gave me. The whiplash was monumental
Basically, my reaction went from "ineffable bureaucracy sailed!" to "oh god, oh fuck" real quick with this episode
I still can't believe the crackship sailed. I literally had to stare at the credits rolling while bawling my eyes out
The ending kills me, finally that season two promo poster where it shows like Crowleys wine glasses, aziraphale tea cup, and then Gabriel’s mug. Oh my gosh that promo poster finally makes so much sense because if you look at it, Gabriel’s mug is the one with a heart coming out. Then aziraphale’s has a question mark and Crowley’s wine glass has half a mark . Ahhhhhh the ending was in the poster , there were so many clues . Unbelievable. Neil better publish season 3 as a book if the show gets block . I can’t even …….
I believe the “question mark” and “half a mark” above the cups are their halo and horns rather than punctuation, but I totally agree on the heart showing its true meaning
The LOOK on your face when you found out the NAME of the Gabriel/beezelbub ship
A lot of people say that in the last scene Aziraphael behaves in a way the real Aziraphael would never do, it's so unlike him, that maybe Metatron did something to him, he would never do that to Crowley. But I think it's right up his street. Naive Aziraphael is still believing that the world is divided into black and white, good guys and the bad ones, and that when he will be in charge in Heaven he can change the world for the better place(can you even imagine that? I'd like to see how he's gonna do it when God will say to him to do otherwise and destroy the Earth), because he still can't accept his dark side, even though Crowley has spent 6000 years trying to convince him that everything is not so simple and life is made up of many shades of gray. You can't be just good or just bad. But it didn't work.
And Crowley is the only one who understands himself, what he is and what he wants and for him it's him and his important and only person in the universe to be together on their own side. And Aziraphael, let's face it, has always been a bit self-centered, and Crowley puts Aziraphael and his desires first and we see that in the scenes like magic trick moment, the keys to the Bentley, that's the first things that comes to mind. And here theoretically he could give in one more time, only Crowley realized that it was the last straw. He'd lost him in a way like "I can't meet you in the middle if you don't take two steps towards me, I won't fight for us if you just give up everything we've spent so long building up like this»
Yeah, and HE DOESN'T KNOW a lot of the stuff that Crowley knows. I mean, yes, he should know enough, in a way, which is why Crowley can't get his poor flustered brain in gear to realize what arguments would ACTUALLY stop him going.
But Crowley has been trying to protect him, so that Aziraphale doesn't turn as cynical as he is. So he never said that Gabriel told "Aziraphale" to shut his mouth and die, or exactly what minor question got Crowley in trouble in the first place (let alone what it probably FEELS like to Fall), or that the Metatron was totally willing to approve Gabriel's demotion for trying to block Armageddon 2.0...
Heaven here is Nina's gaslighting ex...and Aziraphale is still falling for it.
@@emilymoran9152 exactly, thinking about that too... so much parallels😄
THE ENDING
I SPENT LIKE A HALF AN HOUR CUSSING OUT NEIL GAIMAN FOR LEAVING US THIS WAY AND SOBBING MY EYES OUT 😭😭😭😭😭
Aziraphale just keeps looking smugger and smugger during those end credits. It's chilling seeing him that way.
that end credit sequence with them separated is entirely offensive
@@oneforsorrowI wish!
@@oneforsorrow ooh~ I don't feel the coffee theory is entirely plausible, but this, this is one theory I'd really like to become canon. Az plotting things and disrupting plans from inside the system as Crowley does it from outside. Perfection.
I didn't interpret that expression as smug. it felt more like forced cheeriness bordering on manic. trying very very hard to convince himself that this is the right decision and Everything Is Fine.
@@capn_toadyes… it honestly looked terrifying. He looked crazed.
Azi & Crowley are the power couple of Hell and Heaven. Metatron splited them intentionally. They stopped the Appocalype, created a 25 lazaris miracle, worked secretly through ages and unraveled the Gabriel mystery...they can CAPOUTE the Second Coming easily together. They have the power to put down both institutions.
According to Neil as well I'm pretty sure he said that he has the first episode and the end of the last episode of season 3 written already probably because of how he talked about it with Terry Pratchett. Oh he also said He's no sorry for what he has just done to us
I know exactly how you feel. I'm 26, I was a teen in the peak of the queerbait era. The feeling you get when something finally becomes canon in front of your eyes is insane, I know.
You are a better person than I am because I was BAWLING at the end. I don't know how you kept it in. In one shot, Neil managed to make them cannon and cruelly blow them up at the same time.
I'm really excited for what this means for Aziraphale's character development. not that it didn't hurt- i had to grab my squishmallow for comfort to get through the end of the episode- but my first reaction was "Zuko!!!" i immediately saw it as Azi's Zuko in Ba Sing Se moment so i never got mad about it. im more interested in the potential for exploring how hard it is just to recognize being in a toxic environment, esp when its what your raised in. and then in how to react to that realization...
(apparently there are people who are mad and being mean to Neil about it which is just not on 😠)
I really like this parallel with Zuko, thank you for pointing it out ☺ (excuse me, I'm using google trad)
i relate wayyyy too much to aziraphale, and my bf is so similar to crowley that he's been compared to him by total strangers. needless to say, i bawled my eyes out at the last scene lmao
I still can't believe it's canon... Like, i lost hope long ago and now i'm like- AAAAAAAAHHH!!!
I didn't see the spoiler fortunately, so when they kissed, I screamed SO LOUDLY and started crying!!!! I couldn't believe Aziraphale could do this (which makes sense now that I've seen people discuss it) and watched until the end credits, because surely they can't just leave it like that, right?! RIGHT?!! This season was AMAZING and absolutely blew me away!! So many little unexpected things and history between the ineffable husbands! I watched it on the morning it came out and was in such an emotional distress that I became sick in the evening and am still recovering :')))
RIGHT!?!?!?!?! Also wasn’t getting my hopes up after years of letdowns, but OMG. My brain is also still coming to terms with it like…it’s canon omg!?! ❤ 😇 😈 ❤️
Honestly I’m not so surprised it became canon because the book hinted their relationship. Other characters always assume that they were a couple, Aziraphale was described as “gayer than a treeful of monkeys on nitrous oxide”. 😂 And this whole season clearly lead to a love confession. But I did not expect to be so HEARTBREAKING! 😭
@@kay-jay1581 i actually didnt believe it would happen bc some of the shows accidentally hint at a love confession and just separate them in the end to diffuse the tension, thats what i thought was going to happen
The way when you jumped when he went in for the kiss.
It’s always been cannon that they love each other, not just since the kiss. Neil confirmed it since season 1.
The only thing was that they never talked about their feelings, but have done so now.
So counting the discord live, the extended reaction, and this video, this is the third time I’m about to watch that ending rant. It won’t be the last ❤
How sick is it that they gave us all exactly what we wanted, and then snatched it away less than a minute later?
The cruelty of the classic end of act two break up, man. I thought I was immune by now and Neil clobbered me with a sledgehammer anyway.
He warned us all! Jane Austen!
@@Gaywatch Seriously, between Good Omens and The Bad Batch, I am going to be forever leery of the finale of any show's second season.
Gab went to Aziraphale bc he associates Aziraphale with angel-demon love and a safe space for it tho 😭
Y'all as a long time Ineffable Bureaucracy shipper who kept seeing hints towards them in the promo material and felt like I SPECIFICALLY was being teased I am NOT OK. I HAVE BEEN SHITTING MYSELF FOR FIVE DAYS STRAIGHT. Also ye they/them for my beloved Beelzebub.
my theory on Metatron -- he's wearing dark colors, while normally angels of heaven only wear cream/white/light colors. the angels he works with all the time suddenly don't recognize him, but Crowley does....I don't believe that's the real Metatron. it's got to be a high ranking demon, potentially even Satan himself, considering the power it would take to cast that illusion on everyone in the room.
My jaw dropped when I watched that scene. Even though they alluded to it somewhat this season, it still caught me totally off guard. 🎉🎉
Neil was like: Oh, is this what you want? And this and this and this? Oh, no, you can have it all... but in return i would like your heart on a Silverplatter, so that I can snip ip up into tiny little pieces!!
And all of us were like: Yep, sounds like a deal!
I saw spoilers that someone had accidentally leaked a photo of them kissing. So I knew, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW AT ALL 😭😭😭
Btw, if you take recommendations for shows to react to I strongly recommend Our flag means death.
Seconding Our Flag means Death
We are in our Divorce Era😢😢😢😂😂😂
I saw the photo of the kiss before watching S2 and even so, everything that went into those final minutes starting with Aziraphale's returning to the bookshop just blew my mind. The entire team from writing to acting and even the staging and music came together to create pure magic. It's both heart wrenching and magnificent.
I never dared to let myself hope for a kiss. I was screaming when it happened. I screamed again here. Still can't believe it hahahahahAHA..😭😭😭😭
also the immediate “I’m not leaving you” from your wife lmao ik it’s low stakes bc it’s “just” a tv show reaction but AWWWWW
That's exactly the same noise I made, when Azi started talking about Heaven being the good guys. Curse this show! I need more!
I completely lost my shit when they kissed, and then I got my heart broken and stomped on by the ending. Neil Gaiman, you genius fucking bastard, you'd better fund therapy for us.
I feel like I could try over and over again to describe to the straight audience of this show what this meant and never get any closer fr fr just Djdjdjjdjd since when do we just,,, get what they were implying??? In text?? In like, EXPLICIT text with no wiggle room for people to pretend otherwise??? What??? I’m so happy about this it’s nuts but also hey! Neil gaiman! How could you! My feelings!
yeah thats what i love, i would be fine with it even if it didnt happen but this is just so overt lmao
Aziraphale was so overcome when Crowley kissed him he sobbed and tried hard to compose himself, what he did afterwards total insanity because he was so shocked, he needs to process,season 3 will be them saving earth from Armageddon and finally being together
Notice that nasty ol' Metatron didn't give Aziraphale ONE SECOND ALONE to process his emotions about what happened or assess his actions. He came in the moment Crowley left to continue manipulating him.
Beelzebub uses they/them btw
I can’t wait for Good Omens s3!
I hope the studios/ producers agree to sign a fair deal with the writers and actors soon.
Your wife's 'I..I..' at the kiss makes me laugh and us like all of us at that moment
This episode broke me. I cried for days after watching that heartbreaking moment. The kiss was everything for me but the fallout hurt me beyond words!
Thank you for this video! I watched the final episode yesterday alone in my room and had a similar reaction. I just couldn't handle all that validation and the heartbreak. And I don't have anyone to talk about it! It's been a day and I'm still shaken! So it felt really good to see someone experience a similar level of shock. Let's see how everything looks in 8 to 10 business days
@@oneforsorrow Hey, thanks for checking in. ☺️ I'm alright. I'm still processing and fortunately had the day off to rewatch some things and calm down. Waiting for season three is going to be hard though 🤍🖤
the thought i got after watching this series was: series 2 was like if neil gaiman were to write fanfiction of his own book. in good and the oh so horrid (horrid as in my heart is shattered, not badly written). and i shall never describe it as nothing but.
Aziraphale's smile at the end in the elevator is definitely scary.
I have two theories on that: either Aziraphale has quickly thought up a way to thwart the "second coming" (and/or get together again w/ C?) OR the elevator has some kind of miracle put on it to gradually erase either his memories of C, or even rewrite his past in the Book of Life.
For me is the smile "well, I am coming home, away from that guy, I am gonna forget him, you know? "
This ep was so, so good. And broke my heart at the end (in a good way) That last 15 minutes or so 😢I’m gonna need a whole ep of nothing but Aziraphale doing the I’m sorry dance.
Season 3 better happen 🙂 (Neil said he’s started working on it but things are on hold cause, ya know, strikes… ) also, doesn’t sound officially greenlit yet. So we may not hear for a bit (that’s my take not Neil’s)
Interestingly, I saw he also responded to someone asking if this was the sequel he’s mentioned he and Terry Pratchett had discussed maybe doing and he said no, this season was what was needed to set things up for where the sequel would start.
ahhhhhh ok but like, consider: aziriphale's NOT the only one wrong here! they both are, they've both done bad things in their own ways (azi admittedly trying to change crowley to be 'good' and crowley verbally abusing azi and assaulting him-because yes, as much as we love the kiss, it was still ASSAULT). aziriphale is NOT the only one in the wrong here. at the end of the day, they want to be together, it's just that aziriphale wants to be together in heaven and crowley wants to run away together. they BOTH aren't compromising on that.
hah, sorry, that's just a little pet peeve. we're both still recovering from that ending, i just rlly wanted to say this :')
@@savannahb3573
At this point (honestly don’t know where Crowley goes from here) only one of them has voluntarily signed on to help bring about the end of the world, so, to quote Gabriel “Nah” 🙂 I adore Aziraphale, but no, they were not both equally wrong here. Also, however he intended it, what he’s telling Crowley is he’ll always see him as someone broken who needs fixing. One of the bad guys. That Crowley as he is could never be good enough.
@@tracydale154 eh, yeah, i guess youre right, ill stop fighting it. ig his eternal optimism just gets in the way
@@savannahb3573 It does 🙂 Don’t get me wrong, I’m not hating on him, I just think he majorly blew it here.
Oh you guys are priceless I’m so delighted to share this roller coaster of emotion with fans who get how monumental this is. So much love💕
tbh i thought all us ineffable bureaucracy shippers were just madly delusional
That's why you trust the ship sense
I console myself over S2 by watching this video. Thank you. Your face at 9:47 when Crowley's voice breaks during his speech, and the way you jump back for the kiss. That is absolutely a reenactment of me watching this shit. Wow. I join you in the cursing!!! LOL
Have you considered watching/reacting to Our Flag Means Death at any point? Asking because of... reasons.
this.
Oh i knew when Crowley put his sunglasses back on shit was about to get real, ugly, and real ugly. They spent so much time with him stripping those specs off whenever he came into the bookstore and he was alone with Aziraphale, i knew putting them on couldn't be good.
stripping those specs off im crying
@@erinys2 I said what I said. Gay Watch has extensively documented Crowley's inherent sluttiness, after all. 😎
thank you for your reactions, what an absolute treat and oh boyoooo did I feel all of those gasps and emotions!
If you want something else that won't take another 3-4 years to renew, I'd HEAVILY suggest watching our flag means death. I'm sure I'm not the first one to suggest it but....do it anyway, I promise you won't regret it! SO much queer rep!
Thanks again and take care yourselves too x
*screams into the pillow* same girl same. I flipped my foot stool after seeing this.
I feel you so hard about not being able to wrap your head around it because we've seen stories walk up to the line but never cross it. I can't believe that a show with so many people involved crossed that line. Part of me had accepted the world wasn't willing to do it, and if they were willing to cross the line it would be more niche content, and that I would forever just eat the crumbs I could find. Seeing Good Omens go all the way BOGGLES my mind, I have been in a dazed state for weeks!!! I'm so grateful the show is as good as it is, and I'm dying for season 3 but also I never want it to end. Season 2 went by so fast, I want to live in the characters shannanigans forever
"there is no war in BA Sing Se" thank you I nearly spit out my tea
"I'm gonna need 7 to 10 buisness day to process that" You are hilarious. Love every minute of your kiss reaction. SAME HERE.
I will finish to process that last 10 minutes when I'm gonna start to watch episode 1 of season 3. (Neil Gaiman confirm that season 3 will be the last...😭😭😭)
“Except there was an entire colony of shippers who saw it coming”
I honestly don’t think they saw it coming/becoming canon either
Edit: Beelz’s pronouns are they/them. They don’t have a gender
I love this ending as a second act closer. But now we've got to wait for the third act and I'm just... Ahhhhh!
I love that this final/kiss Scene feels so adlibbed and that Michael was expecting David to pash him irl
I love the touch on the lips tho cos babe I felt that too.
Well thank goodness I watched this episode this morning because I just opened CZcams to see THIS MASSIVE SPOILER IN YOUR THUMBNAIL, change it already jeez
I have to agree, maybe don’t post such a huge spoiler in the thumbnail less than a few days after the season dropped.
I actually cried when I watched them kiss
This is why I wish they would number the seasons like anime (Season 2 part 1). At least we are prepared for the goddamn cliffhangers and heartbreaks then.
Coming to the ending, even with the potential coffee theory the entire speech of Az didn't seem to be manipulation imo. It's very much a career vs. love situation, or, both are in love but wants different things. I'm very glad that Crowly didn't agree to the offer. He is a softy and has a tendency to put Az's wishes before his own, but heaven really isn't the right choice for him even with Az running it.
Yay for the side ship coming true for those who already ship it though. Not surprising since everyone involved seems to read fanfics. (Michael Sheen already admitted that he does 😂)
We really need fix it fics for the boys now 😭 And as Neil has said, to get a season 3 recommend seasons 1 and 2 to everybody and get more peeps into the fandom.
With respect, please don't put such a huge spoiler in the thumbnail, especially only a few days after the show premiering.
came here to say that too! Unlike on twitter or tumblr, unless the post is tagged there’s no way for people to avoid the spoiler because it’s in the thumbnail. 😕
Very true
i am in shambles
I just binged this entire show just so I can tune in for your reactions 😭 now i am in pain
Really amazing, honest, and emotional reaction! 👍
I had so much ptsd from BBC Sherlock doing fans dirty so many times that I fully did not expect that kiss and for Crowley to confess how he felt to Az. I was totally shook and I loved it and hated it.
I am feeling just a tiny bit smug that I called the plot as soon as I saw the fly in the box. *giggling* Not my favourite ship, but it does make sense, and like, there were VIBES as soon as they appeared together in S1.
ALSO, this is why Gabriel was so OKAY with FALLING, when he suggested it to the council. That's what he meant by "I was coming to you". He thought his punishment would be to fall, and he would be with his demon!
Gaiman really over there saying "let's give AO3 everything they want." what with the romance and the ANGST and the ships, and...
Also, How DARE Tennant hurt me just by saying the same line in two different ways. The second "...tell me you said No" BROKE me. It's fine, it's not like I was USING my emotions for anything else.
ALSO, (fondly) fuck Michael fucking Sheen and his fucking amazing FACE. The little half sob after Crowley kissed him? And then the way his face went on an entire JOURNEY after Crowley walked out? I just. I keep watching it, and it keeps feeling like being kicked in the throat. Why do I do this to myself?
But also, that "I forgive you" sounds so... off? Like, wierdly stilted? And Aziraphale DOES know better, and I have SO MANY SUSPICIONS about Aziraphale's backslide. What the fuck did the Metatron SAY to him? We didn't hear all of it, I'm sure. Did they mess with A's mind?The way he seemed cheerful for a second following Metatron? Some of that was clearly a big act, his face falls immediately, but everything felt SO WIERD? At this point I trust Sheen and this show enough to assume that if something feels off it's because it's MEANT to, so... ???
There is so much red string in my brain right now I could knit a cardigan. I'm going to need at least 4 more pinboards, and a LOT of coffee.
I was almost low-key angry when I first finished watching, because it felt like we'd been given EVERYTHING, but also kind of ...nothing? Like the entire season is filler? On a rewatch everything has grown on me, and it's clearly NOT filler, that's not the right word, but it does still kind of feel like this season spent a lot of time moving a very short distance very loudly? (I am, of course, still going to watch it a dozen more times. I grumble because I care :p) [waffling]
Loved your reactions!
THIS! THIS is where I'm at, right here. The whole thing felt weird and felt like filler.
Az DIDN'T kiss Crowley back! He had a shocked, pained expression on his face the entire time and after it was over, he had cold heartless words. It felt like Crowley was forcing himself on him, it was really awkward. However, all of Michael's interviews mention that whenever he plays Az he always looks lovingly at David. We know the love is there, we're not making it up. Did someone shapeshift into Az to gain a powerful position in heaven then tried to coax Crowley to join them only to accidentally get kissed?
I know that Az is so very naive about most things, but surely he knows Crowley was deceived by heaven and would never go back, for years he's said that he hated both sides. In the elevator, before the credits end, Az goes from looking concerned to smiling. Their fight seemed to not dim his spirits in the least. He's got to be a shapeshifted demon.
Can't picture Aziraphale in a position of power. Either he'd be too nice and become a Yes Man to the other angels, which is what they'd want.. or he'll become power-hungry and Crowley will have to battle Az to save him from himself. The later one worries me.
@@tigristhelynx7224 100% all of this. I was wondering if it was a shapeshift as well, even his mannerisms feel off somehow? (I'll laugh if next season it really IS him and we're all just misreading Sheen having a few bad takes, but I really don't think we are. They've been so careful so far, and we KNOW Sheen is very aware of his mannerisms from the last season.) If it IS Az, something has messed with him, or threatened Crowley, or... something. *jumps back under red thread mountain * Send coffee, I'll be here until next season.
Neil has repeatedly explained that he didn't think, in a 6 episode TV show that he could go directly from S1's Armagedidn't to what he and Terry discussed for the sequel. So S2 is the filling of the sandwich. A break between 2 big plots that both entertains and sets up the final season. I think it's safe to assume that Neil and Terry were planning to base their sequel on the biblical "Second Coming." And I think they must also have planned to have tension between Crowley and Aziraphale. So if Neil needed Aziraphale back in heaven's graces for S3, deposing Supreme Archangel Gabriel was a fun way to move the characters.
the deal breaker. the moment when the dagger gets driven into your heart, and you know you will die when you pull it out but right now it is a slow death with full awareness. give me season 3 or give me death. no VA-VOOM. cheated out of VA-VOOM and that was a VA-VOOM caliber kiss. I hope the Va-Voom catches up with the angel. delayed Va-Voom. I am going to cry myself to sleep every night until Season 3.
AAAAAAAAA omg you made it to the end!! you both were a lot stronger than i was i was losing it at the end 😭😭😭 i'm so looking forward to that video essay though!!!! this was a hell of a rollercoaster ride of a season lol
Crowley waited until the last possible moment to see is Aziraphale would change his mind
I love how you physically jumped at the kiss me too 😭
“It’s a butch thing” SAME SAME SAME I AM CURRENTLY UNDER THE COVERS LOSING IT AND IT AINT EVEN WATCHING THE ACTUAL SERIES
So...I hope they don't take another 3-4 years for the next season. It's a long time, things happen and I really want to know what happens next 😂
We’re SO on the same page. I keep watching it over and over and still can’t believe they kissed. I can’t cope. I’m like doing random stuff around the house to keep my mind off it but then suddenly I’m like “brO they kissed wtf” in the middle of doing the dishes.
13:33 I know exactly what you mean, and on that note: I would lie if I said that seeing Mark Gatiss of all people end up as nothing more than a shambling corpse, inconsequential and irrelevant to the overall plot in a show in which two (non-)middleaged (non-)men kiss each other, wasn't oddly fitting to the point of feeling like closure.