Trade-in or Keep? Ruger American Compact Repair Result
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Well, the Ruger American Compact 9mm is back from Ruger, and here is how it went.
Now that it's back, do you think I will keep it or trade it in and call it a day?
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First Look: • First Look: Ruger Amer...
Review: • Ruger American Compact 9
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I certainly do appreciate companies like Ruger that stand rock solid behind their products. I do however appreciate firearms that function as they should right out of the box, consistently and with endurance.
I do like Ruger firearms and have owned many through the years but I wish they would spend a bit more time on R&D before releasing a model. To be fair they are certainly not the only arms maker that could benefit from a bit more test and evaluation.
Nice vid, thanks.
Thank you.
I may be a bit late in comments. But I bought a Ruger American compact 45 a few months ago and the outside spring came uncaptured, and the pistol was unusable. I contacted Ruger and got a new guide rod assy sent to me free of charge. No issues now. Love Ruger's customer service. I own many of their products and have no complaints.
Have the Ruger SR45 where both magazines wouldn't keep the slide open and had extraction issues. Using a sand paper on the follower and small file on the magazine to remove any burrs and lightly pulling on the coils fixed my problem. Had a lot of issues with my Ruger SR45 and magazines, which now works without any issues.
I have an American Compact, and I have put at least 500 rounds through it. I love this gun. The only ammo I have had problems with is the Winchester white box. Everything else has worked flawlessly. Also to note my PC Carbine does not like the Winchester either. In my opinion it's that crappy white box ammo giving you trouble. Great video, bud.
Thank you. Overall this is a nice gun, this particular one may have just had some "tolerance stacking" issues that made it more ornery.
I think unfortunately you just got a bad one.
My American Compact, after getting the spring replaced (also got the new barrel), runs flawlessly. And I'm a cheap SOB. I shoot garbage steel case stuff and any other cheap ammo I can find.
Clean, dirty, it don't matter. Runs flawlessly.
That sometimes happens, it can be tolerance stacking or one component just too far out of spec.
Ruger changed the spring design in the 12 round magazine. You can see the difference. Ruger will send the springs to you if you have the older springs in your other 12 round mags. The issue with the old spring was an occasional failure to push up the slide stop after firing the last round.
I noticed if you leave the 12 round magazine loaded for awhile, the spring would compress. You could actually stretch the spring, and it would work again, at least until it compressed again. I didn't know that Ruger updated the spring design, so good to know. I've been making due with the 10 rounders, since they don't have this issue (and I can find 'em cheaper, to boot.)
Wish every reviewer highlighted the problems they encounter. Hell cover every recall. Good weekly segment
Thank you. We definitely try not to hide what we find, but we also don't want to sensationalize it either.
Thanks for keeping us up to speed here. I got both Americans as soon as the got in at the gun shop.
The full size have over 700 rounds no issues. The Compact has around 900 rounds no issues except the 12 round mags do not consistently hold open on last round. In fact, it will rarely hold open with the 12 rounders and Ruger has replaced 3 of them. Excellent customer service. Polite, professional and prompt.
Customer service is flawless every time with Ruger. It is unfortunate that yours is misbehaving, though at a less significant level.
It is all about trust. I have returned firearms to be fixed and then sold them because in my mind I couldn't trust them.
Ruger has a reputation for excellence I have never heard anyone say they did not trust them?
I have a Ruger American full size in 45 acp that I bought when they first came out. I had problems with failure to feed (not going into full battery) at random when shooting it, then I'd have to tap on the back of the slide to get it into full battery. It would do it with ball ammo and with hollow points, and it was more common with the hollow points. I thought it is probably a problem with the barrel ramp and I sent it in and they said it was a magazine issue and replaced the mags. I still had the same problem afterwards, but not as frequent. After shooting it more, the problem seems to have worked its way out.
I am beginning to suspect this gun's design is susceptible to a "Tolerance Stacking" issue where the individual parts may be within tolerance but the spec allows too much flexibility, resulting in parts at opposite ends of the tolerance adding up to a problem. Happily your issue went a way, ours might over time as well.
Coincidentally, about a month ago, my RAPc was having failures to extract too. I was using Browning brass FMJ ammo which was being sold very cheap in boxes of 150 rounds. Winchester makes the ammo for Browning. I think maybe the issue is with Winchester ammo. Maybe a batch of bad brass. Other brands work fine.
Really impressed with Ruger's customer service.
Ruger customer service is always flawless, they are a good company to work with.
So, it is a brand new gun, worked fine before recall. After recall, problems start. Sent in for fixing, comes back with same post recall problem, but happens less, BUT it is still happening. All mags are new as well, from Ruger. Decision: trade it in!
Traded mine in, used the money to buy a Springfield 1911 GI. Im happy, can't go wrong with Springfield or a 1911.
Thank you for your report on th RUGER AMERICAN COMPACT.I just bought a model in 45 an am waiting to test it out.
Just bought this gun in 45acp with the new GRAY Ceracote finish. Not fired it yet, but really looks good. Wstch THEFIREARMGUY's review of it.
I sent my in for the retrofit, got it back, I shot about 500 rounds and I didn't have a problem. That sux that your having this problem.
Thanks for the video..... I have two RAPs (9mm)...... So I went to the Ruger recall site... and watched the video. Not experiencing the problems described. AND so far... have not had any problem with any of my magazines. Keeping my fingers crossed. Love my RAPs!!!
I hope yours continues to behave well, overall it is a nice pistol.
Lead flew, there was noise! ❤️❤️❤️
My friend has one and he likes it, there nice guns but for me I’m sticking with Walther.
Thanks for sharing. I’ve shot plenty of Ruger revolvers, but have not shot any of their handguns I’m afraid to say.
I've never had any issues with any Rugers and Winchester white box ammo. Seems like you have a lemon. Each company has lemons that make it to shelves (unfortunately). With that being said, I've been intrigued with the American since it's release and have considered getting it. Props to Ruger for their excellent customer service. Love you videos!
Thank you. I do agree that Ruger's customer service is top notch, they are very responsive and want to help.
Ruger American is a solid firearm. White box is junk. TFS
The Ruger American is my favorite pistol
Another great review. For me it’s an easy decision. If the gun is not 100% reliable it’s not worth keeping. (Reliable for me is 3 to 500 rounds through the pipe without problems) I would trade it or sell it with full disclosure of its problems. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you.
Yeah I think it is ammo sensitive had the same issue when I changed brand to a cheaper one great gun thou
Hey H/S! That Ruger is a keeper. It's similar to the FNS 9C in size and capacity with 12 and 17 round mags, which I almost bought years ago. Good carry size pistol, IMHO. Ruger stands behind their products and provides excellent service, as I'm sure you know. Just get some better ammo.
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I do agree that Ruger has excellent customer service. They are responsive, proactive and helpful every time I deal with them (and this was no exception). And I do not think this gun is bad, maybe just a bit picky. The White Box is low-end ammo but the PPQs, Xdms and Glocks around here just gobble it up.
@Hammer Striker Your right, I've had the same experience with those same guns, as I own them as well. Same with my M&P M2.0's.
I like this gun & am considering buying one (but not your gun). I would return it for repair again. If problems persist sell it CHEAP, but you MUST tell a potential buyer the problems you are experiencing with it so that they understand what they are getting into. Good vid. 👍😋🇺🇸
Thank you. We are always up front about the condition of things when there is a transaction, that is just the right thing to do.
@@HammerStriker Or ask them to replace the gun...
Thank you so much for your time. I was planning on buying this gun.
Did you end up buying it? If so do you like it??
I have the full sized Ruger American, it goes through all my Winchester white box ammos without any problem. Ive gone through 3000 rounds, so it might just be your or the compact version.
We suspect that this one is just a lemon, likely a "Tolerance Stacking" issue. Overall, I do think these are good guns.
I have both the 9 and .45 full sized models and like them quite a bit, but I have to say I'd probably trade that one in. Maybe give it 500 rounds to wear in and see if the problem goes away?
Send the gun back 2 Ruger with ALL your mags. When you get it back test gun & all mags with various ammo. If ANY failures of ANY type then GET RID OF IT! No problems KEEP IT! GOOD LUCK.
The 12rd mag that came with my RAPc pretty consistently refuses to lock the slide back after the last round. I’ve “solved” that issue by just leave the 12rd mag at home and only running 17rd mags, which don’t have that problem and fit my hand better anyway.
Just purchased a Glock and it does the same thing. Nowadays it doesn’t seem to matter what you choose to shoot they all make lemons.
Interesting that Ruger pays for shipping but Sig doesn’t. I love Sig guns but feel they could service their customers a bit better. This is from my own experience
I sent my gen 2 lcp in 3 times, similar problems. They replaced it with a new one that works. Sent in a bodyguard twice and p365 as well. If the firearm is sensitive about spec brass ammo, what else are they going to be sensitive about. My 2 cents.
Hmm.. strange I got my Ruger American about a year ago and have put about 700 rounds through it. Winchester, Remington, federal, Hornady 115 gr to 124 gr. Brass, aluminum, steel, full metal jackets, hollow points and have never had one issue feeding, ejecting or any other problem. Has always shot great right out the box, I love mine however mine is the duty size not the compact. Sounds like it is just a faulty gun.
I can’t understand how you can seem to like a handgun that regularly fails to extract? Sell it and put the money towards something that works. There’s so many polymer 9s out there these days... manufacturers have no room for excuses.
It is likeable because it is easy to shoot and well designed. If it were not ammo sensitive it would be a great little gun.
like other fired many brands thru the pistol without issue. Now using reloaded ammo without issye. Sorry for you bad luck
i just got a new RAPc today (with the 860 serial number) and though i won't get to fire it for a few days i put in the for recall anyway. guess i'll see ..........
Great Video!!! Good Information!!!!!
Thank you.
The 1st generation Glock had issues mainly with their .40 S&W cal. guns, the SIG P320/P365 1st gen. issues,
the CZ P100 actually failed due it's problems, American AKs still are developing, on & on.
Here is some wise advise:
- Never buy a 1st generation anything - wait for ver. 2.0 (At that time the market has found *"most"* of the 1st generations issues).
- Don't get a Ruger American due to the issue above.
- Don't buy from Ruger now, if you need a good reliable gun get a SIG, Glock, HK, Beretta, or S&W (IMO).
Just saying.
*EDIT:* Walther is also a top choice over Ruger.
Pretty good customer service if you ask me. I think Ruger should change the name of the pistol to Ruger Chinese Compact 9mm. 😎
Ruger customer service is always flawless, they are a good company to work with. This is more likely just a bad specimen.
Just got the gray compact yesterday. NOT very impressed. Well when doing a press check the slide sometimes has to be hit into battery. One of the mags is messed up and I'm missing a mag. Was supposed to come with 3.got 2. The grip modules are both the same. Barrel looks to have a ding at the end. Not sure I even want to shoot it. This same thing happend when I got the SR 45. A few years back. Lite primer strikes and failures. Had to send it back 3 times. Gun came back fixed after that. Sold it immediately because I would never trust it again. The ruger american .45 compact is the 2nd semiautomatic that I've bought from them. Will call them on Tuesday I can assure you I wont send this one back 3 times. Sad thing is I don't have any problems with my glocks, fnh, or any other of my plastic guns. I like ruger and have many of them but this kind of crappy workmanship seems to happen more often now than in the past.
This sounds like a rough chamber issue.
If I could only choose one I would take my full size 9mm duty model with me to Afghanistan 😂 with any ammo or mags and my barrel and components has also been replaced took about to weeks.
Makes you REALLY appreciate GLOCK PERFECTION doesn't it! :-)
45 acp don't have that problem
How does magazine spring tensions effect extraction?
In theory you would think it would not. However, it can affect how the new cartridge slides into position under the extractor or the spent shell as it begins to extract and interacts with the top round. If there is bounce, it can cause that process to be disrupted and result in the round "jumping the extractor". In this specific case, I don't think the magazine is involved due to the pattern of failure, but the magazine was a legitimate possibility.
Must be a 9mm .
Not to be a wise guy....I love Ruger Revolvers but not Ruger Autos....I have had some and just never loved them (never had a problem with them) just found I liked some other Autos better
Too many problems, dump it and get something else. Life’s too short to be wasting time with unreliable firearms. I’d much rather have a sr9c over an American 9c if I had to choose a ruger. I hear IWI has a Masada compact coming down the pipeline
That Masada is something to look at.