Confessions of a Copywriter

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  • čas přidán 29. 09. 2020
  • Jim Clair is a Whistleblowing Copywriter unmasking the "gurus" he worked with. He writes at jimclair.com, blogging about copywriting and books. He worked on VenusFactor, Yogaburn and many others and has a decade of experience in the industry and has seen it all.
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  • @nesianbossempire1858
    @nesianbossempire1858 Před 3 lety +831

    "I'm asking for snitches" hahahaha

    • @Coffeezilla
      @Coffeezilla  Před 3 lety +119

      I need the Tekashi69 of Agora. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @CRAIGC55
      @CRAIGC55 Před 3 lety +22

      Can somebody for the LOVE of God get Coffezilla to investigate the multi billion dollar pHARMaceutical industry that hide cures and pushes poisons as medicine

    • @Truther2001
      @Truther2001 Před 3 lety +5

      @@CRAIGC55 yes. And the Rona scandal

    • @matrixmirage2148
      @matrixmirage2148 Před 3 lety +16

      @@Coffeezilla This guy looks like if Rich Piana and Dan Bilzerian somehow had a kid together

    • @hawaiihypnosis
      @hawaiihypnosis Před 3 lety +7

      @@CRAIGC55 what proof do you have that Big Pharma is hiding cures?

  • @MindfulAttraction2.0
    @MindfulAttraction2.0 Před 3 lety +2702

    Thought that was dan bilzerian

  • @dudewhodoesdopeshit
    @dudewhodoesdopeshit Před 3 lety +509

    Former blogger here - I worked for one company. That ran about 15 blogs. We published 20 - 50 pieces of content a day. 8 different writers with backstories - Instagrams - Facebook's. It was all me. I even posted comments having conversations with my self as the different writers / random readers .... All bullshit.... 30% of the interactions on FB /comments on the blogs were real people .... The rest were me and my coworkers.

    • @samsamatar3573
      @samsamatar3573 Před 3 lety +3

      hahaaha

    • @nicoledoubleyou
      @nicoledoubleyou Před 2 lety +25

      Wait, why? To sell ads? Products? Sorry, haven't watched the whole interview yet so maybe it's answered

    • @ImaNPCman
      @ImaNPCman Před rokem +22

      I can usually tell when a CZcams does this, and yes, I can tell that 70% of the comments are written by the same person.
      I can tell that one major CZcams that has taken over everyone's algorithm lately does this.

    • @dudewhodoesdopeshit
      @dudewhodoesdopeshit Před rokem +12

      @@ImaNPCman name names dude!

    • @ImaNPCman
      @ImaNPCman Před rokem +36

      @@dudewhodoesdopeshit i don't like naming names when i can't confirm it, but I alledge ANDREW TATE!!!!
      I alledge he has an army of people writing comments on his behalf as per his instructions.

  • @okisweirdstories
    @okisweirdstories Před 3 lety +928

    I did door to door sales very briefly. On my first day I carpooled with two guys who were supposed to show me the ropes. The guy driving unironically played audio of a speech from Wolf of Wallstreet to motivate us. After that he played Gordon Gecko's greed is good speech followed by Alec Baldwin's speech at the beginning of Glengarry Glen Ross. It was obvious that he completely missed the point of what these scenes were meant to express. His misreading of them was cartoonishly absurd, yet it emboldened his #grinding mentality.

    • @wajihbec1087
      @wajihbec1087 Před 3 lety +4

      Sup Oki.

    • @JackRecami
      @JackRecami Před 3 lety +29

      Did you snort a gram each to "motivate" you and reach your sales goals?
      Must be good to sell grinding your teeth...😅🤣🤪.
      What a douchebag squad leader

    • @trainsonplanes709
      @trainsonplanes709 Před 3 lety +4

      Oki! How about a new video? It's been a couple of years. Always looking forward to your stuff.

    • @feraiivie
      @feraiivie Před 3 lety +12

      Yes please - a new video 🤗 on another note if you’ve been in the trenches you know how many sales people take what is satire and use it as motivation 😂😂😂 personally guilty myself ✋🏾

    • @gareththomas2376
      @gareththomas2376 Před 3 lety +2

      He is a classic psychopath...

  • @rachelr3484
    @rachelr3484 Před 3 lety +202

    That sleepy pup in the background though

    • @jasonmarriott1058
      @jasonmarriott1058 Před 3 lety +16

      :) I loved gets up for short period.. turns around couple of yawns and back to sleep :)

    • @kilppa
      @kilppa Před 3 lety +6

      Yeah, right after getting off the shock of him looking like Dan Bilzerian, that was my focus. Aww!

    • @christopherhernandez3909
      @christopherhernandez3909 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s not a pup. It’s mid sized dog at least.

  • @yaboyjuice102
    @yaboyjuice102 Před 3 lety +188

    Yeah yeah yeah, he looks like Dan and yeah he has a great friggin beard, but is no one gonna talk about that marvelous dog? Homie is chillin like the goodest of all boys in the back

    • @sasajungic89
      @sasajungic89 Před 3 lety +9

      Shit I didn’t even see the dog before I read this comment. What a good boi

    • @sweetayu
      @sweetayu Před 2 lety +4

      I thought the same thing!!

    • @Jeff-jl2xc
      @Jeff-jl2xc Před rokem +1

      He drugged the dog actually.. this was in the news and everything.

    • @goignite9931
      @goignite9931 Před rokem

      @@Jeff-jl2xc context? What do I search to get the who thing??

    • @dahliacheung6020
      @dahliacheung6020 Před 4 měsíci

      I'm gonna start this comment by saying I have autism.
      Anyway, if I see a pet in the background, particularly the lower part of the screen, sometimes I get so zoned into the doggo or mew that I zone out of what's being said. So I have to put the subtitles on to cover them up so I'm not counting the seconds until they twitch or something. I love fuzzy inside creatures (and outside creatures too) so much. Every day I marvel that my cat is actually real. A living stuffed animal who just walks up and wants to sit on my lap and I'm so honored. She's such a good girl

  • @hasancankirac9265
    @hasancankirac9265 Před 3 lety +109

    This guy is very aware of the toxic ideology in these self-help circles. Almost everything he says makes me feel relieved that someone else is aware of that as well.

    • @OverRule1
      @OverRule1 Před rokem +3

      Dude has the manliest beard I've ever seen

  • @Illmatic25
    @Illmatic25 Před 3 lety +372

    Please do more with this copywriter. I actually learned a good deal about the craft

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +9

      He blogs at jimclair.com

    • @kidfisch
      @kidfisch Před 3 lety +3

      @@Pokarface7 thank you 👍🏽

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +5

      @@kidfisch it's in the video description, lol. I subscribed to his newsletter :-)

  • @SS-np4og
    @SS-np4og Před 3 lety +74

    A big timer guru actually admitted to the fraud in this industry! I was on a "training" a while back with a guru. This was about 4 years ago. And the guy was teaching people to build a list and send them offers from click bank. He was talking about the weight-loss niche and someone asked about the list drying out after one purchase since these people would've gotten their solution and he literally admitted in explicit words, that these offers don't work so they'll always be looking for the next things. These people will push out shitty products, preying on people's insecurities just for commissions. Ethics are the last concern for these shit heads.

  • @chrissre7935
    @chrissre7935 Před 3 lety +89

    Wow. What is amazing that those people stand up and have a platform to speak out. I get it that I can be very hard because of the income. Coffee you are building a unique front line to the bullshit we see in this world. And not only in sales but in the overall state of human greed I notice every day. Very grateful for your content.

  • @SpencerCornelia
    @SpencerCornelia Před 3 lety +592

    "I run a successful business in the business of success." Fake gurus' business is nearly a palindrome lol

    • @modernlogix
      @modernlogix Před 3 lety +4

      Nice observation XD

    • @SSTricky
      @SSTricky Před 3 lety +2

      Hey Spencer! I love your channel. Your early videos were very inspirational for me.

    • @henryearnest5098
      @henryearnest5098 Před 3 lety +5

      I totally Agree with you my man 💯💯 these Fake gurus are selling dreams to vulnerable people (especially people who feel hopelessness).
      And I know this is abrupt, you probably won't see this, but I'll take my shot.
      The things that you're doing, is helping a Lot of people (that's including me). And you deserve more love and recognition for it.
      My good friend was victimized and scammed by a person that works for someone (Someone's famous and one of the biggest in social media out there) I won't name, names...But I'll reveal it to you if you like.
      I wanted to also spread awareness and get the word out there like what you're doing.
      These "gurus" are not just scamming people but also Hurting them. Selling them Fake dreams.
      Anyhow, I would Love to invite you to come as guest on my show. It would be an Honor.

    • @CRAIGC55
      @CRAIGC55 Před 3 lety +5

      Can somebody for the LOVE of God get Coffezilla to investigate the multi billion dollar pHARMaceutical industry that hide cures and pushes poisons as medicine

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +1

      @@henryearnest5098 why don't you reveal names? It will help us to start calling out names so we find real instructors, mentors, etc.

  • @davesnothere512
    @davesnothere512 Před 3 lety +79

    I love how the ad breaks are literally affiliate marketing scam videos 😆. I also enjoyed Dan Bilzerians nicer brother.

  • @forexsniper6061
    @forexsniper6061 Před 3 lety +104

    Clicked for the Dan Bilzerian, stayed for the coffeezilla

  • @balpreetsingh3875
    @balpreetsingh3875 Před 3 lety +182

    Why is it whenever i hear word copywriter my brain processes Dan Lok

    • @dailystriver2727
      @dailystriver2727 Před 3 lety +17

      He’s used his copywriting story and told made videos about copywriting a gazillion times

    • @mxsaa45
      @mxsaa45 Před 3 lety +5

      Mahn same!

    • @beep7
      @beep7 Před 3 lety +19

      These guys hurt the reputation of good copywriters.

    • @balpreetsingh3875
      @balpreetsingh3875 Před 3 lety

      @@beep7 you are right

    • @Patrick4Gooner
      @Patrick4Gooner Před 3 lety +12

      Dan Lok is not a copywriter he is a copy cat writer.

  • @OwolabbyAzeez
    @OwolabbyAzeez Před 3 lety +117

    “They got kicked off of Google, Facebook Amazon and try to get back in the game. Man you got kicked off the whole internet practically” LMAO Dan Bilzerian is really exposing the industry 😅😂

  • @GodotOfficial
    @GodotOfficial Před 3 lety +386

    Me: Can we get Dan Bilzerian?
    Mom: We got Dan Bilzerian at home
    Dan Bilzerian at Home:

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +54

      This one is actually smart though, and better looking

    • @Jack__Reaper
      @Jack__Reaper Před 3 lety

      LOL LOL LOL

    • @rkalla
      @rkalla Před 3 lety

      LOL!!

    • @dvirtosu
      @dvirtosu Před 3 lety

      So good!

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas Před 2 lety +3

      I don't see you in comment sections anymore, man
      Are you alright?

  • @williamquetula4736
    @williamquetula4736 Před 3 lety +102

    As a direct response copywriter, this guy’s claims are true. There are a lot of unethical copywriters who are desperate for money.

    • @Catthepunk
      @Catthepunk Před rokem +3

      How do you become a copywriter in this kind of atmosphere? I'm looking at doing it, but I've been stalling the online game due to the amount of manipulation that's promoted and that

    • @97Ant
      @97Ant Před rokem

      I notice a lot of desperate copywriters use "away from" copy which leads to high refund rates

    • @alexmunoz6682
      @alexmunoz6682 Před rokem

      @@Catthepunkbuy a course

    • @Catthepunk
      @Catthepunk Před rokem

      @@alexmunoz6682 yeah, I don't think so.

  • @gabrielh.5172
    @gabrielh.5172 Před 3 lety +16

    This man is dropping names and brought the receipts. I love it.

  • @johnnybensonitis7853
    @johnnybensonitis7853 Před 3 lety +16

    This was a magnetic interview. Man, I don't typically watch interviews like these but this was impossible to turn away from! Great interviewer AND interviewee! I had no clue how much self-deception is happening that maybe some of these guys are even aware off. Everything becomes statistics. What an enlightening discussion.

  • @Astra_Dystopium
    @Astra_Dystopium Před 3 lety +31

    I’d like to take a moment to honor Sgt. Kyle Cooper for his unparalleled service to his men and his country....

    • @noshotnova2432
      @noshotnova2432 Před 3 lety +1

      The funniest part is Chris Kyle was mostly full of shit as well.
      He named himself after a fraud lol.

  • @lucascartaxo2742
    @lucascartaxo2742 Před rokem +27

    I’m a Copywriter, and unfortunately this is VERY true. Today we have a lot of fake gurus in this industry. We have A LOT of unethical copywriters.

    • @kylemacinnes9867
      @kylemacinnes9867 Před 6 měsíci

      Same here brother 90% scammers 10% ethical writers industries going down the toilet

  • @danielnash3009
    @danielnash3009 Před 3 lety +31

    I've decided that you are a genuine light in the darkness. You keep going so good on you. Keep it up.

  • @helixlacoste6945
    @helixlacoste6945 Před 3 lety +15

    Thank you for letting him talk... Good interviewing skills!

  • @brandonchin8875
    @brandonchin8875 Před 3 lety +3

    One of the more important videos on your channel. Jim has shared a lot of what goes on in the direct response copywriting world.

  • @escobarines
    @escobarines Před rokem +5

    This was really eye-opening, especially the way he said they pile on claims, so something that isn't true becomes credible... I don't think of myself as being gullible, but that tactic in the right context could maybe get me! (like coming from a brand I already trust). It's crazy how you can influence people just with rhetoric. Thank you, aside from the fake guru sphere, this is quite a good reminder to be critical with regular ads

  • @richardomens4664
    @richardomens4664 Před 3 lety +59

    I never really comment on YT videos, but I had to comment on this one. Everything is so spot on! Everything from the forced positivity to the scammers being scammed themselves and actually falling for their own bullshit. I've seen the vicious and addictive cycle in people I know. I was in it for a few months but realised what was happening so I stepped away and opted for a slow organic blog where I just write about whatever I want.
    I wish everyone could watch this video - the cult is growing and it's sad seeing these people get sucked in and suck others in.
    The Napoleon Hill thing is spot on too. Such a conman.

  • @nikbrickkbsgaming4117
    @nikbrickkbsgaming4117 Před 3 lety +16

    ugh. my parents have fallen for sooo many of these . they are way into holistic medicine because of shit like this. its also the reason ive never been to a hospital in my life even though ive broken my arm and split my knee to the bone twice. belief are a hell of a drug

    • @MaxZRider
      @MaxZRider Před rokem +3

      Bruh I’m sorry that is abuse. Sorry your parents were like that. Happened to my friend too who had no vaccines growing up. He went and got ‘em himself. Good luck brother

  • @MarcusCarlzon
    @MarcusCarlzon Před 3 lety +2

    This interview is great and Jim's articles on his site really opens my eyes. thank you

  • @itsperlala
    @itsperlala Před 3 lety +35

    YESSSSSSSSS !! Omg someone comes out and tells about the story telling !!! Soon as he said Heros Journey story telling... Boy oh boy I could tell you all about that... And all the other b.s that manipulates people into thinking the story is true !! WAKE UP 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
    Awesome vid, thank you for spreading the message!! Wondering if I should contact you 🤔
    This channel deserves a Netflix series 🤙🏼

    • @fawazsullia5620
      @fawazsullia5620 Před 3 lety +4

      A story is not told to make people believe that the story is true. It is to tell people, ' hey, is this your story?'.
      But yes, stories in some commercials want people to believe that the story is real

    • @itsperlala
      @itsperlala Před 3 lety +8

      People buy things from people they trust & relate to ** Who would buy from someone who is clearly fabricating a story... The story has to be believable that w.e challenge occured, has been overcome..more than likely by or with the help of the "product" they're trying to sell you. "hey, is this your story? Hey, is this your truth?... Cause if it is, then you & I are both alike, and if it wasnt for this product I have here today, I wouldn't be standing in front of you now. Remember the story?"

    • @giqwaju3691
      @giqwaju3691 Před 3 lety

      Every time I see an ad like that in my email, I get instantly pissed off. Insulting to the intelligence of a reasonably prudent person.

    • @strayvion808
      @strayvion808 Před 3 lety +1

      And to think that these stories, not only drive most conspiracy theories nowadays, but also political beliefs themselves. Like majority of what is dividing society is not even the politicians, but the very bs created by a bunch of scammers looking to make a buck. Like lets put our differences aside and realize that majority of our conflicts, were simply started by a bunch of desperate scam artists, not even some secret elite force or crap, but simply bunch of desperate mediocres looking to make a buck by turning a simple snake oil sand on a beach sell, into a whole cult and political campaign. All because some scammer told a story... to make a quick buck...

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 Před 3 lety +24

    Love the warnings about the smarmy, scammy companies - so helpful and saved me probably thousands of dollars. Thank you! On behalf of my husband and 4 young kids. I was on the cusp of falling into a couple of these traps. Could you please do an episode on legitimate, ethical Cooywriting practices and resources we can learn from or go to that won't suck us down a rabbit hole? I have a legitimate academic writing background and got additional training for grant writing, specifically, when I worked for a legitimate non-profit. There are great organizations with ethical standards in that space that help protect organizations, foundations, and writers. But there are none or they are hard to distinguish in the Copywriting space. Especially now with content becoming the monolith...
    There are books by marketers etc. that are worth the $12 or audible credit you might spend on them - times 10.
    Can you highlight to good guys in an episode so we know which one's we can trust?
    Kudos to this work you do as scams are getting soooooooo common online. I'm grateful for it.
    Thank you. May this channel meet much more success.

  • @hampus3141
    @hampus3141 Před 3 lety +3

    This is too amazing - right before this video, I got an ad about a course teaching you how to create your own course!

  • @TheRocksCookin
    @TheRocksCookin Před 3 lety +1

    I'm so glad you exist!
    You are helping so many people!

  • @kdsheld
    @kdsheld Před 3 lety +3

    I love this guys story telling and voice impressions!

  • @JohnCrestani
    @JohnCrestani Před 3 lety +263

    very good interview. copywriting is the core of marketing, its like formulating an algorithm for the triggers for people; 'how do we get more people to spend money'. i equate it to the same thing that the highest paid 'algorithm-programming' people at google/facebook/tiktok do, which is essentially figure out 'how do we get people to spend more time'. Its a power. And as all power, its a double-edged sword.

    • @alexsevilla7849
      @alexsevilla7849 Před 3 lety +13

      Although I don't know much about your business John Crestani, you do have a good point. By the way... am I the only noticing Jim's slurred speech? I kinda feel bad for him, he comes across as being under some sort of substance, and also, maybe he is a disgruntled employee? And Coffezila, I like you and you are talking about others being exploited, but you also come across as exploiting Jim here as well in a way... Just calling it like I see it. There is a little bit of truth to everything my friend.

    • @libcanbe2474
      @libcanbe2474 Před 3 lety

      @Horatio D I keep saying

    • @kidfisch
      @kidfisch Před 3 lety +17

      @@alexsevilla7849 he spoke very clearly in my opinion - I don't notice any slurring personally. He made very cogent points and exposés as well. A quite put-together fellow; whether on some substance or not.

    • @hubris7389
      @hubris7389 Před 3 lety +11

      @Horatio D The whole "working from home" or "holiday lifestyle" comes from people who built real businesses and eventually palmed off the responsibilities while staying as a shareholder in their business (making money for nothing, other than the blood sweat and tears of getting the business to that point). Anyone who thinks they can make millions on their laptop without any effort is fooling themselves.

    • @hubris7389
      @hubris7389 Před 3 lety

      To that point, I was going to write a book about building businesses properly (to achieve that lifestyle) however it would be too technical and probably wouldn't do well as a book - maybe someday.

  • @Erikhengstrumcontent
    @Erikhengstrumcontent Před 3 lety +48

    That dog was tired.

    • @fryone
      @fryone Před 3 lety +1

      Oh, so its not a pile of leather coats lmaooo

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles Před 3 lety

      I bet he walked him and played frisbee or something. Seems like a good doggo

    • @lemonybiscuits4824
      @lemonybiscuits4824 Před 3 lety +1

      Or... Stuffed.

  • @dialac1
    @dialac1 Před 3 lety +1

    Bro your channel gives so much value!

  • @jan-martinulvag1953
    @jan-martinulvag1953 Před 3 lety +2

    Your channel is very important. This kind of information is what we need

  • @fawazsullia5620
    @fawazsullia5620 Před 3 lety +47

    Man, I'm a Copywriter. Some of my colleagues work on very suspicious offers. Especially medical, finance, coaching

    • @fawazsullia5620
      @fawazsullia5620 Před 3 lety +9

      And Agora is just so scammy

    • @stormspinner9000
      @stormspinner9000 Před 3 lety +4

      @@fawazsullia5620 agora converts like crazy

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 Před 3 lety +5

      bicep flexor your comment just feeds into fawaz’s point

    • @stormspinner9000
      @stormspinner9000 Před 3 lety +3

      @@elijahgavin6706 yeah I'm just pointing out their good conversion rate

    • @fawazsullia5620
      @fawazsullia5620 Před 3 lety +2

      @@stormspinner9000 ofcourse. If you make such big promises and manipulate data and words to back those promises, anything will convert.

  • @chibiktsn3
    @chibiktsn3 Před 2 lety +5

    “Are people just wanting a dad, or what?!” Another great interview!

  • @OldVetNerdSage
    @OldVetNerdSage Před 3 lety +1

    Need more insider videos like this! Love it 😀

  • @skullrose.665
    @skullrose.665 Před 3 lety +3

    Coffeezilla love the snake oil background. You are good.xx
    Ripped shredded & lean,sounds like an awesome salad.

  • @nefwaenre
    @nefwaenre Před 3 lety +8

    Damn not only is the dude exposing the scams but he's looking handsome doing it! i truly mean it, that's one dashing dude.

  • @suzane3751
    @suzane3751 Před 3 lety +6

    The sweet sleepy dog in the back has seen and heard it all.

  • @renobrecords
    @renobrecords Před 3 lety +16

    When you train to become a writer for Agora, they actually have a physical doll you receive called 'Grandpa Kurt', who is their exact customer avatar. Youre ALWAYS writing to grandpa Kurt.

  • @keenenwells5490
    @keenenwells5490 Před 3 lety +3

    the dog taking a nap in the background in honestly the best part of this whole intervview

  • @samn9495
    @samn9495 Před 3 lety +15

    Let me make a confession too ! I joined Dan Lok copywriting course called " High Income Copywriters" and half way through I saw these kind of stuff. They trying to make look like you get a skill, but then you basically learn to write these long "Sales Letters" that I always hated to read because I saw the deception in them. So no way I was going to hate myself now. I finished the course but never pursued that "Skill" any further.

    • @fawazsullia5620
      @fawazsullia5620 Před 3 lety +3

      There are other kinds of Copywriting. Not just scammy sales copy

    • @gavinscott2821
      @gavinscott2821 Před 3 lety

      fawaz sullia where is the best place to start if you are looking at getting into copywriting? the ethical kind of course!

    • @StefanGeorgi1
      @StefanGeorgi1 Před 3 lety +3

      @Sam N that's a shame as copywriting is one of the best income producing skills on the planet.

    • @samn9495
      @samn9495 Před 3 lety +2

      @@StefanGeorgi1 which one, the Agora/Dan Lok style or the legit one. I can do copywriting now but not the fraudulent one

    • @ravend.4674
      @ravend.4674 Před 3 lety +1

      @@gavinscott2821 check out CopySchool by Copyhackers. You can join Copyhackers Tutorial Tuesdays for free to get a glimpse of copy skills you’d learn; just sign up for the email list. They also have all the past Tutorial Tuesdays published on the website.

  • @sansivian
    @sansivian Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent interview. Very informative!

  • @mysterieswithcalib516
    @mysterieswithcalib516 Před 2 lety +1

    Lol I forgot about life before the 10 Million dollar studio! Love watching you progress!

  • @dcoy8666
    @dcoy8666 Před 3 lety +17

    These copywriters are better at making stories than hollywood..

  • @worldofgaming6931
    @worldofgaming6931 Před 3 lety +3

    For those learning, this video is better than any course ever made,

  • @jackie6786
    @jackie6786 Před 3 lety +36

    DAN LOK FORMULA, I tried this I tried that until I discover high income skill? I DISCOVER WHAT?? HIGH INCOME SKILSS!’

    • @feraiivie
      @feraiivie Před 3 lety +3

      I actually legit burst out laughing 😂😂😂 accuracy levels 1000

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Před 3 lety +1

      Might as well have said go to university and study medicine, law or business ect.

  • @KurtKobains
    @KurtKobains Před 3 lety +293

    This guy must be legit because he can't even afford a good microphone

    • @velgor5160
      @velgor5160 Před 3 lety +43

      dont give the gurus any ideas now

    • @TerryJulianLive
      @TerryJulianLive Před 3 lety +26

      he's not the scammer.. he's the writer for the scammer. Good typing needed not good microphone.

    • @zainiadnan2335
      @zainiadnan2335 Před 3 lety +30

      His magnificent beard muffled his voice obviously

    • @quidquopro1185
      @quidquopro1185 Před 2 lety +1

      @@zainiadnan2335 I want beard like that!

    • @shivinunitholi2493
      @shivinunitholi2493 Před rokem

      Can smell a disciple of some "copywriting guru" being buTTh*rt

  • @bradynash3410
    @bradynash3410 Před 3 lety +41

    As a copywriter who actually works in this industry, of course there will always be those that just say whatever to make sales... But if you conduct business that way, eventually you will get shut down for it. Real companies out there have legal teams that go through and make sure everything is ethical and true. There are a lot of great companies out there that do it the right way. Don't just fall for the fact that everything is a scam or everyone in marketing is liars.

    • @thefootballpunnedit
      @thefootballpunnedit Před 3 lety +7

      If you work in THIS industry Im not sure what youre talking about its wall to wall scams I've worked in it. Copywriting and marketing isnt scammy by nature... but these clickbank scams are.

    • @DorianBarker
      @DorianBarker Před 3 lety +6

      NOT TRUE. The legal compliance teams form the largest part of the fraud. Can't find the link now, but IIRC, when finance and health got more regulated, the result was that the misrepresentations continued, but in a way that complies with formal regulations.
      Basically all finance/health copywriters lean towards being unethical. We have an incredibly small number of truly reliable financial instruments, and you should only be buying health products that you REALLY NEED. So we don't need big new financial opportunities, and any health products we buy we'd have acquired with or without excessive advertising. While people are always looking out for financial opportunities, the truly valuable opportunities cant be packaged up and offered to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. So it's BS.

    • @hat1324
      @hat1324 Před 2 lety +2

      I dont think anyone was saying that copywriting is a scam. They literally said these scumbags are burning bridges behind them until they crash and burn

    • @metademetra
      @metademetra Před rokem +3

      I don't think everyone in the industry is a scammer.
      But a REALLY good tell is when someone goes onto a video SPECIFICALLY talking about the scammy ones to get defensive and go "Well it's not ALL of us!"

  • @digitalmarketinghumans
    @digitalmarketinghumans Před 3 lety +159

    Shit, I can’t be the only one who thought this was Dan Bilzerian... 😂

  • @squarepeg9484
    @squarepeg9484 Před 3 lety +2

    The snake oil bottle there 🤣 The editing here is absolutely hilarious, comedy gold

  • @TheAnxiousInvestor
    @TheAnxiousInvestor Před 3 lety

    Your the GOAT of YT atm! Got a due dilligence video out of UK property tomorrow, and they all echo everything you say

  • @dcoy8666
    @dcoy8666 Před 3 lety +6

    Great interview! Never been this early before. I totally believe that the lower-mid levels that peddle are themselves fooled by the higher ups, just like MLM. Very sad and gross.

  • @JadeTrading
    @JadeTrading Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you for sharing the story

  • @swine13
    @swine13 Před 3 lety

    Watched the whole thing. Great video. 👌

  • @yodaleiheehu3280
    @yodaleiheehu3280 Před 3 lety

    I'm starting in the field of copywriting. This is gold.

  • @TimPortantno
    @TimPortantno Před 2 lety +9

    You should react to the Kumare documentary(about a guy trying to fake being a guru with the intent of revealing what he did to his followers to teach about cults forming).

  • @xlectrikx
    @xlectrikx Před 3 lety +29

    This was an awesome interview. I cannot believe it's taken this long for me to start seeing these conversations happen in public.
    I've worked in digital marketing for 7 years. When I was starting out I had a similar experience as Jim. I worked at a guru-focused ad agency (also located in a basement) that was shut down by Facebook's lawyers just a few months after I started. I did advertising for a number of gurus on my own and even did some work for Agora for a little while. Thankfully I've moved on to bigger and better things...

    • @onthestrip8669
      @onthestrip8669 Před 2 lety

      I need someone in the digital marketing field to be my mentor!!! Would u be interested in helping? I just started learning and not sure what direction to go...what hard skills I need to focus on!

    • @75pdubs
      @75pdubs Před rokem

      how was working with agora?

    • @YPeezy
      @YPeezy Před rokem

      What are you up to now a days?

  • @SeanTepper
    @SeanTepper Před 3 lety +1

    Yes to all of this. Great video.

  • @violent_bebop9687
    @violent_bebop9687 Před 3 lety +17

    This is marketing 101 , evolved in the mass market media information age.
    You dont have to knock on anyone's door anymore. You will reach them directly through internet, with any stupid pitch.

  • @MrFooSteven
    @MrFooSteven Před 3 lety +30

    This guy NEEDS an episode on Joe Rogan

    • @likemysnopp
      @likemysnopp Před 3 lety +5

      Already did one, before he lost 50 million dollars!

    • @lukeaal6129
      @lukeaal6129 Před 3 lety +2

      @@likemysnopp are you joking that he is dan?

    • @themichaeldonovan
      @themichaeldonovan Před 3 lety +1

      CoffeeZillq is the new Rogan

  • @WtbgoldBlogspot
    @WtbgoldBlogspot Před 3 lety +5

    Fun fact about stretch claims and ethical statistics. You know the shower conditioners that say "now with 87% healthier hair after 3 weeks" or whatever? They're definitely implying that their conditioner is 87% better than the competition, but if you read the asterisk, those numbers are usually from an in house lab and are comparing that company's shampoo, conditioner, and deep conditioning treatment to just using shampoo by itself. So. Yah. Your hair's gonna be healthier if you condition it. Thanks.

  • @GaneshMastermind
    @GaneshMastermind Před 3 lety +3

    Wow this is getting really interesting ❤️

  • @realwhitediamond5942
    @realwhitediamond5942 Před 3 lety +2

    These videos are all so fasinating!

  • @Football__Junkie
    @Football__Junkie Před 3 lety +69

    Looks like Dan Bilzerian and John Crestani merged into one person

  • @JM-su1rd
    @JM-su1rd Před 3 lety +50

    I’m a professional copywriter.
    And it fucking pisses me off, how these gurus and BS artist have trashed my professions image.
    But let me reassure you. Us real marketers and copywriters, despise these guys too.

    • @connorlohse4097
      @connorlohse4097 Před rokem

      Same brother. I can’t believe copywriting is primarily associated with shills and scam artists now. Crazy.

    • @unholysix6883
      @unholysix6883 Před rokem +4

      You know, you could speak at Harvard.

  • @tannerlewis19
    @tannerlewis19 Před 3 lety +40

    Before watching this. I think copywriting seems like a fun profession. And a good job to obtain
    Edit: now seems like a waste of time

    • @brunojatem
      @brunojatem Před 3 lety +14

      Every coin has two sides. Just choose the good one. Take a look at Stefan Giorgi

    • @tnatstrat7495
      @tnatstrat7495 Před 3 lety +6

      Have a service or a product that adds value to someones life that people wanna buy and market it with the FACTS of why it's worth what you are charging.
      Anything other than that is a waste of time.

    • @DavidKFZ
      @DavidKFZ Před 3 lety +2

      @Tanner Lewis It's one of the most useful skills you can learn, if you think its a waste of time you're only hearing from Agora or Raging Bull or all the other stupid companies who use its power to manipulate and steal from vulnerable people.
      Copywriting is the foundation for marketing, if you learn it and you want to get into business you're going to be miles ahead of everyone else. Someone has to know it in your company at the least, its a mandatory skill (or hire a marketing team)

    • @freeflowconsciousness8243
      @freeflowconsciousness8243 Před 3 lety

      If you've created a product and/or service on you're own, copywriting can net you a good return. Definitely not a waste of time.

  • @alcedoramon
    @alcedoramon Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome interview. Its true Click Bank is so sketchy, I even had a hard promoting the offers.

  • @teddemopoulos4620
    @teddemopoulos4620 Před 3 lety +25

    As long as the ad-copy is honest, there's nothing wrong with copy writing. Based off this interview, it seems like the guy (who is super knowledgeable) worked in certain industries that are rife for hype.

  • @Gopherzooka
    @Gopherzooka Před rokem +3

    whats with gigachad stephen crowder?

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali186 Před rokem +3

    What a good looking guy. His beard is God-like lol 😆

  • @popcorngirl321
    @popcorngirl321 Před 3 lety +1

    Instantly a huge fan of Jim.

  • @jolibrero
    @jolibrero Před 3 lety +42

    I thought Dan Bilzerian came to talk to Coffeezilla

  • @Pokarface7
    @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +7

    Thank you. I asked for a video like this. I actually found a website that "teaches" you how to do unethical sales, copywriting and marketing, lol. Go figure, at least they were "honest" about how they got rich and not fake gurus

    • @bunnystrasse
      @bunnystrasse Před 3 lety +2

      Pokarface7 where?

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +3

      @@bunnystrasse If you can't defeat the enemy, might as well join them, haha. Note, the information is free, no masterclass or fake guru you need to pay to. Blackhatworld(dot)com . Scroll down to the section that says Black Hat SEO, cloaking and content generators. Also research about farming accounts and proxies. Warrriorforum(dot)com also has legal marketing and unethical cloaking discussions; however, if you go the legal way, WarrioForum is actually a good place to learn about affiliate marketing. I think you can't really find a fake guru teaching this since their ads get banned if they promote cloaking, farming accounts, unethical affiliate marketing, etc, but basically it's what Stefan James did to make money. Watch the video here on Coffeezila about Stefan James

    • @Pokarface7
      @Pokarface7 Před 3 lety +2

      @@deanmartinez2358 If you can't defeat the enemy, might as well join them, haha. Note, the information is free, no need to pay for an expensive course or to consult with a fake guru. Blackhatworld(dot)com. Scroll down to the section that says Black Hat SEO, cloaking and content generators. Also research about farming accounts and proxies on the same website. Warrriorforum(dot)com also has legal marketing and unethical cloaking discussions; however, if you go the legal way, WarrioForum is actually a good place to learn about affiliate marketing. I think you can't really find a fake guru teaching this since their ads get banned if they promote cloaking, farming accounts, unethical affiliate marketing, etc, but basically it's what Stefan James did to make money. Watch the video here on Coffeezila about Stefan James

  • @SirSpoon
    @SirSpoon Před 3 lety +2

    Im a writing major and the formula and templates are all real. Advisors have told me if I wanted to work and make money at a lot of places you take the formula and stick to it.

  • @viiIeiraS
    @viiIeiraS Před 3 lety

    Awesome interview 👏👏

  • @tiananman
    @tiananman Před 3 lety +299

    I've been a copywriter for 13 years and I have never worked for a company that did not vet my copy through a legal team that made me back up every claim, source, quote and statistic. I imagine there are some real crackerjack operations out there but don't let this video make you think we're all con artists...

    • @reverbmedia9087
      @reverbmedia9087 Před 3 lety +46

      Totally. You can be a copywriter with a great value product too. There’s some good points in this video but it’s biased too.

    • @jayking3159
      @jayking3159 Před 3 lety +14

      Exactly copyzilla so full of shit some ppl are scammers yes but he trying to expose ppl that arent even scaming and hes really doing a diservice because Ive learned a lot by taking courses from ppl in his videos and have made money and bettered my life and hes scaring ppl away from taking a course and bettering there life

    • @juanisraelortiz
      @juanisraelortiz Před 3 lety +12

      Thank you. Yes - there are many unethical copywriters and marketers out there. But they are not the majority. Most of us do our research, make sure we are not making false claims, and write about products and services we believe in. Also, legal teams love to set copywriters straight on what to and not to say... so there's that hehe.

    • @jjkobe4167
      @jjkobe4167 Před 3 lety +9

      Agreed. You don't have to be a sophist tricking the unsophisticated. Copywriting is a tool. Some people use it ethically, some not. Might as well make a video about how hammers are dangerous muder weapons that should be exposed because some people use them violently.

    • @notme-ji5uo
      @notme-ji5uo Před 3 lety +30

      @@jayking3159 wire me a thousand bucks and ill believe you

  • @DK-5
    @DK-5 Před 3 lety +18

    Dan bilzerian, is that you?

  • @IanConnel
    @IanConnel Před 3 lety

    GREAT interview.

  • @KatyaMorozova
    @KatyaMorozova Před 3 lety

    Great interview!

  • @kevinpheley574
    @kevinpheley574 Před 3 lety +19

    This guy is like the ethical Dan Bilzarian.

    • @i_i8924
      @i_i8924 Před 3 lety +1

      Bizarro version

  • @raymondcaylor6292
    @raymondcaylor6292 Před 3 lety +3

    1.7 Million is what a preacher and his wife got off a neighbor of my Mother in Cocoa Beach. She was 88 when she was dropped off at a County Nursing home with $27 in her purse and a savings account book that her social security check of $910 was deposited into. The balance of that account was less than $200.

  • @justinhancock2459
    @justinhancock2459 Před rokem +2

    "with all my years as the Brawny paper towel mascot, I knew a mess when I saw one"

  • @Tina06019
    @Tina06019 Před 3 lety +1

    That is the most magnificent beard & mustache I have seen in 12 months.

  • @s3d17
    @s3d17 Před 3 lety +21

    I feel bad for Dan B.. I take it back. No sympathy for FAKE gurus/scammers

    • @gs-nq6mw
      @gs-nq6mw Před 3 lety

      Those people who exploit old and deseperated person should be in prison wit severe penality

  • @luigir2459
    @luigir2459 Před 3 lety +55

    This guy looks like Popeyes archenemy. BLUTO!!

    • @joedalton77
      @joedalton77 Před 3 lety +1

      Donald duck

    • @sleepfull_
      @sleepfull_ Před 3 lety

      The host looks like Donald duck and the guest as Brutus

  • @DenisAshton
    @DenisAshton Před 3 lety +1

    I’m in love with the snake oil background

  • @KPKelly
    @KPKelly Před 3 lety +2

    This guy is really, really good.

  • @sirguy6678
    @sirguy6678 Před 3 lety +6

    Fantastic interview! Really insightful ! I know I am not “dumb enough “ to fall for these scams! ( says everyone who ever willingly paid money to learn how to get rich quick or who now knows the true doctor’s secret of long life and vitality! )

  • @ej1692
    @ej1692 Před 3 lety +19

    It doesn’t have to be a scam or used in a sense that’s scamy. It’s writing a sales page to get somebody to buy a product. It’s marketing. You don’t have to lie or be fake about it.

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 Před 3 lety +4

      They’re talking about the people who go to any lengths to turn conversions. A lot of the biggest copwrighting gurus we see do just that

    • @reverbmedia9087
      @reverbmedia9087 Před 3 lety +2

      Elijah Gavin Which ones? Name them

    • @rickyihaka3306
      @rickyihaka3306 Před 3 lety +4

      @@elijahgavin6706 the problem is that ALL copywriters go to any length to get that conversion. That is the game. I’m a copywriter myself and I’ve told my clients that I’m not here to get rich, but I’m here to help out you and your business. I position myself to look like I care for you and I believe that most of the time nowadays when in actuality I just want a pay check from you. Ethical. Maybe or maybe not. At the end of the day I have made a shit ton of money from copywriting.

    • @elijahgavin6706
      @elijahgavin6706 Před 3 lety +1

      Ricky Ihaka what’s the easiest way to learn copywriting and get clients? Do you need to have a brand with your face on it or can you do it behind the scenes?

    • @rickyihaka3306
      @rickyihaka3306 Před 3 lety +3

      @@elijahgavin6706 I said it before. Positioning and patience. Don’t just position yourself as a copywriter, no position your life around copywriting. Sooner or later you’ll be thinking in headlines and talk to people as of you are selling them something. Idk I don’t mentor I don’t sell course because that’s not what I want to do. I love writing copy because it’s fun for me. Call me boring or what not, just position yourself to keep learning and you’ll succeed. Hope this helps

  • @neoprofin
    @neoprofin Před 7 měsíci

    I absolutely love the work you do and the guests you interview. I've never been scammed because there's so much information out there. If it seems too good to be true it is, but if you educate even one person you should sleep well at night.

  • @asentientbroccoli8658
    @asentientbroccoli8658 Před rokem +2

    Nice to see Dan Bilzerian got an honest job.

  • @jayabrams400
    @jayabrams400 Před 3 lety +3

    the best is when you actually use great direct response copywriting and marketing to actually sell a great product or service, not a scam.

  • @denyel_
    @denyel_ Před 3 lety +4

    he needs to write a book!
    ... he could be famous

  • @littleoceandrop
    @littleoceandrop Před 3 lety

    SOLID VIDEO! lets list, build, create, and mention solutions, lets develop solutions, to so many delicious problems

  • @elimania1390
    @elimania1390 Před 3 lety +1

    He looks like a Dan Bilzerian & Zach Galifianakis mix lol.
    Good content as always!