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txg.ca - More awesome results for Sam this time with an iron fitting! We took his iron game to the next level by adjusting lie angle and going to a new high ball speed iron head, leading to more distance, better forgiveness on mishits and better overall consistency.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser, Master Clubfitter
Great vid, but this was FIVE YEARS AGO! Wish you had more examples of high handicappers getting fit. Maybe I’m not seeing them because it isn’t called out in the title? Anyway, I picked up some good info for my club fitting.
I like that you showed how the lie angle on his existing set could be adjusted. I’m sure he’d be excited that you straightened the shape of his shot, but who wouldn’t want an additional 20 yards?!
Was there ever a revisit on how much Sam's game improved? I'm emotionally invested in Sam! Lol
One dislike was from Mrs. Sam who thought her husband was going out to "try a couple of drivers for fun" but came back home with a full new set.
the rest of the dislikes are from his 8 kids who thought Daddy was going out to get the Mcdonalds but came back with a full set of clubs...
Gotta add another 11 dislikes for his golf buddies who are now getting SMOKED out on the course.
I'm new to this series and am loving it, but regardless, this is one of the all time great comments. Lol, poor Mrs. Sam.
@@kentyoung5282 Mrs. Sam knew what she was getting herself into. But I'm sure he's a wonderful husband.
I only have one mate who’s Mrs truely understands. There’s a downside; when he books, he has to book her too. 🤣
Another convincing video that demonstrates the importance of getting properly fit. IMHO this is the best golf channel on CZcams and you can take that one to the bank.
The Sam series has been absolutely phenomenal!! Fitting him thru the entire bag clearly demonstrated the kind of improvement an average golfer could potentially experience with a high quality fitting.It's amazing how small adjustments can deliver big rewards in dispersion, distance and overall confidence. Considering how the fitting process went for him, seems that the ideal fitting sequence should be Driver - Irons - Hybrid/Woods - Wedges, correct?
You guys are the absolute best - learning a lot and always looking forward to your next video!
After playing the same set of irons for 20 years, This video motivated me to get my first ever club fitting and boy do I wish I did it year’s ago! I was hitting my 7 iron an average of 134 yards with it pulling left and struggling to not hit it fat. I learned that my lie was off and that I have a moderate swing speed. Fitter put Wilson D7’s in my hand with lie adjusted and regular flex graphite shafts. This new fit sent the ball on average 160 yards with minimal dispersion! For context, I could NOT hit my old 5 iron as far and good as this 7 iron! Thank you gents for the content and making the fitting process feel less intimidating! I would have never gone in to do this without this type of content!
I think you guys could be and possibly are, the best golf info videos on CZcams. Would love to see more content from you guys. Oh, and induct Sam into your regular videos too. He is doing great!
Ian is probably a descendant of the first Scottish club fitters. What a craftsman.
So my son and I are big golf nerds. Always looking to learn more about the technology we have today. The first few videos I watched from you guys (I don't remember which ones they were since I've watched so many), I thought you guys talked too much and almost stopped watching your videos. But then I caught a few where you provided some real in depth explanations and I suddenly realized how wrong I was to dismiss what you guys posted.
This fitting video might be a year old but I just saw it now and I'm absolutely shocked with the gains from a change you guys made. Absolutely unreal. I started with the wedge fitting video and continued with this one. My son and I were just staring at the screen mouth wide open at the improvements from just changing the lie angle. I never thought that would happen from such a simple adjustment. But I guess in Sam's case, his type of swing called for that sort of adjustment. But I still never thought the results would be so drastic. Bravo guys.
If you guys were local to me I think I'd be hopping into my car right now and heading over for a fitting...well, once we can actually leave the house again. It's making me think about a fitting at a club champion (probably the best we have locally). Do you have any suggestions for local fitters?? I'm in a town called Federal Way in Washington state. It's about 40 minutes south of Seattle. Just thought I'd ask. Seems like you know some people.
Thanks for all the information. We're watching lots on youtube these days since we can't exactly hit the golf course. Keep up the great videos.
finally.., have waited sooo long for the next video with Sam! You've made Sam so happy. He will never forget this sessions at TXG for his complete lifetime. Ian, you are doing such a fantastic job. Little changes can affect so much but you gotta know what to change😉. Thanks to TXG, I still got hope for my upcoming fitting...
My first reaction was, "Hold on, why not adjust the lie angle on the Mizuno's and see what happens first, then look at different clubs?". Glad you provided that comparison as well so that we can parse the data more accurately. Good work!!
I play MP54 s (DG S300) and struggle with the same issues as Sam. Had them bent upright 3 weeks ago with the same result of straighter flight. No joke! Last week went back for proper full fitting and and came close to getting the apex with modus 120 6.0. Just couldn't pull the trigger. This video is spot on, and uncannily similar to my own experience.
Again, these videos are absolutely incredible and informative! I've hemmed and hawed about the actual value, but no more dilly dallying, I'm going to get fit! Thanks for putting this content out!
Love it: "There's better, and there's better better." Sounds like my wife did this video. And by the way, anyone familiar with fitting does not think you achieved these results through the magic of editing.
I'm dying to know how Sam got on, any recent updates?
These two really know their stuff - the level of detail and information is really helpful. It makes me want to go get a fitting with them as a returning golfer whose never been fitted before! I hope I can make this happen one day soon.
I know this was an old video but keep up the great work team!
Got a fitting with gents in October and I’m super excited .. driver, irons and putter very very pumped can’t wait, been saving for some time do hope it’s worth it.
So nice to see one of us ‘normal golfers’ getting a game changing experience.
What an eye opener this “High handicap series “ has been for me. Can’t wait to get fitted !
This was an exceptional video! Showing the changing of his own clubs was brilliant. Please do more of these.
Feel like I"m repeating myself on all the videos. Just incredible work there.
I have had this excact same experience during a new club fitting, adjusted my old club for a 12 meter gain but then went to the Apex for a further 18 meter gain.
I love these clubs. Dropped from a 23 handicap to 16 in no time. You guys are spot on with your standards, its not always about new clubs but with technology in most cases it is.
Keep the video's coming. Great job.
Beautiful. I loved how you adjusted his original irons as well. I've been curious about those changes, as opposed to new clubs.
You guys are magicians. Sam is stunned. Cheers 👍🏌🏼
Great fitting, nice to see high handicapped golfer getting fitted with great results.
The game of golf needs content like this. The golf channel has nothing on you guys 👍
Fantastic explanation of the fitting process guys. Going for my first iron fitting tomorrow and will take this knowledge with me. If I’m ever in the UK I’ll pass to say hi and get fitted at TXG.
AMAZING video guys! Thanks so much for putting all this top notch content out. As much as I like seeing Matty smash it out there 350+, this series with Sam and other handicap golfers show the value of a true and proper fit. I still can't get over the performance improvement. Best channel on You Tube by far! I've watched a lot of videos from Crossfield, Shiels, Me and My Golf etc. but you guys are the best, hands down!
excellent video, club fitting and help to Sam. i am a high handicap golfer and thought fitting was only for much better players. Thanks for showing us the light
Love watching you both....Very informative content...I have been fitted by TXG and it was a great experience...They were very friendly, helpful and knowledgeable...Would recommend getting fitted by them to anybody
Guys....I can sit and watch these videos all day...the information learned from this channel is mind blowing...definitely a more knowledgeable player is a better player ! Thank you for doing this...great stuff here...I will grab some friends and head north to Canada and take avantage of your awsome services and get fitted thru the bag. And order new clubs.and play a couple rounds while were there....Sean. Cheers !
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never before have I been so inspired for a fitting. This is by far the biggest eye opener for me. I follow a lot of the biggest golf tubes. But i just got a new favorit!
More power to you guys, the more I watch your videos the more it puts me into a conviction of the value of fitting, Haha discussed this with my wife and got an approval from her to go there one day for complete set fitting. Hope you branch out here in California. More power to you guys.
I waited all day to watch this video and it didn't disappoint.
Fantastic story again Guys. I'm convinced the premium fit option is the game changer as most players actions are way more grooved than we imagine. Fitting to this is preferable to swing changes,which the worlds best struggle to achieve.
Another great video, the one's with Sam in it are really informative, I think people will really want to get fit after watching them. People will definitely have a better understanding of the importance of a PROPER fitting for their games after watching these videos
TXG continues to be my favorite golf info series! Keep it coming guys!
Just the level of confidence this fit must give to Sams game would have to help lower the handicap and enjoyment level through the roof.
This video has made me realise how poor my fitting for my Mizuno was and how having bladed wedges has detrimentally effected my wedge play. All I need to do now is move to Canada and get a proper fitting for all my clubs. The other problem now is who to trust in the UK to perform as good and comprehensive fitting as you guys do. Suggestions? PLEASE from a 15 handicap player who hits his 8 iron straight but only 120 yds.
Excellent video once again. Integrity is everything.
I am so impressed with your fitting skills. I’m a 21 handicap looking to by my first set of irons and a new driver. I wish you guys were in South Orange County!
Great to see the fitting adjustment to his own clubs, and the full improvement from your selection for best fit clubs.
Sam’s face says it all!!! Excitement from equipment that works
Just outstanding! The only problem now is that if Sam’s married his wife isn’t gonna like him sleeping with the new clubs! Ian, you are the club whisperer. I’m scheduled for next month and can’t wait. Well done gents.
Yet again another solid video. Again shows the importance of getting fit. I'm still mildly old school when the debate of loft comes into play. But even I need to understand that it's better performance that leads to lower scores.
Appreciate your videos, this one hits home with me and the people I play with
Awesome video guys, super cool to see how you can completely change somebody’s game by making some relatively simple adjustment such as lie angle, keep the videos coming!!
Thanks boys
Another top video!
Good way for me to start the day with a cup of tea watching this before a day at work!
Excellent demonstration. Half way through the video I was think ... "why can Ian just adjust the lie angle on his Mizunos?" and then you answered the question!
I guess the beauty of a forged iron is you can always adjust it later without have to buy a new set.
Great video.
I'm a new subscriber but I wanted to say that this is by far, the most informative video I've seen. I've been playing for 4 years and I've been teaching myself. After watching your videos, I feel that I've found remedies to the weaknesses I have in my golf game :)
Thanks Bobby!
Once again, you guys are absolutely changing this man's game!
I'm checking prices for a ticket to Canada right now!
I know it is probably a long shot, but is there a clubfitter in The Netherlands that you can recommend?
Ian and Matt, another great video. I think it would be interesting to see a mashup of two types of videos you guys have already done in the past, a fitting of an amateur player, whether it be Sam or someone else, but done in the live setting. Also, I went through the ball fitting process last week, and it was great. The feedback from the process helped confirm that I was playing the right ball, and the numbers backed it up. I think it would be an interesting video for the general public.
Very impressive. Best of luck to Sam.
Great video! How could anyone dislike it! Makes me want to go across the pond to get fitted! Yes, I am seriously thinking about it, lived in England for five years, great experience!WOW...Just found out this is in Canada...will be easier to go! GREAT!
I was actually typing the question about changing the lie angle on his own irons when you guys did it in the video, what a huge difference in the Apex heads...
i brought the apex when i first started golf at a 28 handicap people said to me there no good for you but i love the small look and they feel great this vid is well true i tried the i200 and jpx 2017 but the grouping on the apex and distance was the best for me great iron.
You guys really need to create a franchise system, train fitters and spread this all over the world.
I have really enjoyed the series of videos with Sam. Thank you for putting them together.
I myself am a high handicapper looking for a new set of irons and would love understand more about how you go about choosing the right club head. Currently there so much choice, for example the M4, the Rogue, Mizuno hot metal and the Pings amongst others.
We'll try to keep going through different ones in future videos Paul. Thanks for watching!
Great video - thanks. I am very glad you mentioned the part about making sure the modern lofts fitting into your bag. For many people (like Sam and myself), 5 or even 6 iron should be the longest iron in their bag if the 6 iron is 26-27 degrees . I actually have 2 "7" irons in my bag now, because i have a mixed set of blades in my p-7, and more game improvement irons in my 7-5. Kinda wacky - but it works well...
This is my second viewing of this video and now I get what you guys are saying. Just changing the lie angle on his existing clubs was a huge improvement in my opinion. Especially if you are on a budget like I am. I have twins in college at the moment. I did a lie board fitting years ago and I have gotten every set of clubs since set to that spec. (1 degree flat). But watching this makes me see that I can get some serious help hitting a draw by just going 1 degree upright. I normally hit the ball dead straight with all my clubs. Since I started playing golf that has been my natural ball flight. I have tried to fade and draw the ball but that has proven extremely difficult for me. I am not Apex long by any means. I am headed to the golf club in the morning to see if I can get properly fit. I want those 10 more yards Sam got, lol😂 Thanks for posting this informative video. I will tell my little brother to stop by your shop when he returns to Toronto from Jamaica where I live. We are still making repairs to our farm since hurricane Harvey blew by. Take care.
Love this. Ill say again...open branches in the UK! I'd love to do what you do...clearly be a big learning curve though!👍👍👍
Another wonderful video. I am looking forward to see Sam's scorecard posted for each round. This give's all of us hope that we can hit the ball straighter, higher and longer. Keep up the great work young men.
Gary Westfall we’re excited to see Sam’s progress this year.
Curious as to how many club fittings you do in a weeks time? I would imagine because of this channel you’re requests have gone through the roof. So so good.
An update on Sams handicap would be great.
David, I want to hear that Sam’s wallet is full of cash from his playing partners after spending a bomb on a whole new bag! This has been an incredible series to watch. He needs to monetize his what I expect to be a rapidly declining handicap while he can to help pay for a full bag replacement!
Wish I had got fitted by you guys.....very educated in understanding the clubs....and the individual.
If everyone goes and gets fitted along these lines, there will only be single figure golfers playing the game...brilliant video, as you say exceptional editing !
another excellent job guys...I'm beginning to sound like a broken record here. A suggestion - perhaps next time you could mention similar heads and shafts that would yield the same result. Some heads and shafts are not available locally and some of us are very passionate brand loyalists. Ian's encyclopaedic knowledge of these stuffs will surely come handy. Thank you guys.
Nice video guys. It's great to hear the logic behind helping an average golfer like Sam. I was fit last week in Vancouver thinking that I was going to a progressive fitting and got none of that. I think that my fitting was reasonable but I wish TXG had a shop out here. Keep up the good work boys!
Can I ask where you got the fitting? I want to get one in Vancouver too but I don’t know where to go. Thanks
@@TheGlackens Golftec south Surrey
Sam is a copy of me thank you so much for this video I have mp-54 to and I’m thinking about switching to either the apex or jpx hot medal because I need more distance
Sam got another great fitting, with mega results. All I want now is to go and get fit by you guys.
I have been having distance problems also, I'm sure it is in the clubs, but I can not figure it out.
Great job guys, Really enjoy your video's. Happy holidays and stay safe!!!
That first shot with the new club and im like wooooow..great job guys
Hopefully Sam gets a discount on all these new clubs. Awesome video. If I’m ever in your area I’d love to stop by and check it out
Fantastic channel guys.
Awsome video. Another impressive club fitting with Sam.
Awesome as usual guys - well done. After 10+ years off of golf with an elbow injury, I bought myself these Apex irons early last year as I re-hit the range and needed some old man clubs versus my old forged cavity back blades with heavy extra stiff 6.5 Rifle shafts - and I too was shocked by the difference - I'm actually longer now than I was a decade ago pre injury. As a better player than Sam, I actually went with their Recoil Graphite shaft to give me dampening for my elbow injury and have been stunned on how arrow straight the Regular Flex Graphite Recoils are - just amazed at their performance. As an FYI, the longest Apex iron I use is their 5 iron as it is exactly the loft of my old blade 4 iron and that is my 190 ish club - hybrids after that. I have told a few local people about your business so hopefully they will be coming by - I still have to book my appointment. Fantastic stuff. Paul.
Excellent video once again keep them coming guys, one of the best channels on youtube.
Great video....
I was saying to my wife while watching the video why don't they try adjusting the lie angle on his mizunos to see if it would improve the shot trajectory and no sooner had I said it then you did it in the video . Thsnks again for all the great videos you put on it know it is very time consuming but the knowledge you are sharing with your followers on your channel can only be a good thing for the game of golf ...
Brilliant work guys. I can speak and vouch for the heavier shaft. At a certain weight, I can feel the club position on the downswing. I did get fit for TM M4's and it is amazing to see the same swing producing different results. My change was exactly like Sam.
Sam=Ringer?? TXG=David Copperfield?? Excellent vid, as always. Thanks guys!
LOL!
Really good to see the follow through on irons. I did it the other way around starting with an irons fitting and equally as a result changed sets and shafts (and lie - in my case going 2 flat). I wanted to just add that I had the same experience that once the irons, driver (still ongoing) and hybrids and 5 wood review were done and when I then took to the course on a regular basis i ended up with some redundancy now as a result dropping one iron in favour of a hybrid, dropping 5 wood also in favour of a longer hybrid. So the gapping issue becomes a key stage with or as part of a fitting. Indeed that is part of my current dilemma with the driver and perhaps also the need to revisit the 5 wood. So that they all (very different makes - something else to add as no longer look at one make or even one set of irons but individual clubs (or groups of clubs when it comes to irons like gap-wedges as one group; 7/8 -pw as another; and hybrids or longer irons as another group as the case may be). Look forward to seeing the wedges fitting. And dont forget the putter too as indeed one does more puts a round than even with any other club - i learned and changed my putter inadvertently when using my hybrid as a putter with much better effect consistently than my previous putter! What a self taught lesson. Great clip. Sam should be down to single figures by now - what a wonderful feeling he must have!
Another incredible fit. I am so excited for my upcoming fit with you. Can't wait.
Be interesting to hear more feedback from Sam in the future as Ian indicated, as well what Sam decides his 2018 bag will contain, good luck Sam on your golf goals and the enjoyable journey. I am really looking forward to seeing the putter fit process coming up in the future.
Another excellent video ! Thanks again guys. Awesome to watch your magic.👍
This is really amazing !!!! I've been trying to get a appointment for a fitting and can't get one. I need Ians expertise badly ..... please
curious if there is a follow up to Sam's progress since these videos a year and a half ago. Wondering how is handicap has changed since this fitting. Great work guys Love these videos and all of the content
Agree with the Sam series -- great insight and amazing videos...
At around 4:10, Ian, you go over the ballpark range for how long Shawn should be hitting his 6 iron. Could you do a video in the near future regarding what ideal yardages should be relative to swing/ball speeds? Much appreciated!
*Sam
Lots of variables there John but for Sam with ~82MPH getting 170 yards was great, and you'll see in the video that comes out on Saturday with a faster swing speed player (~92MPH) we look for around 190 yards.
Cool. Glad you adjusted his original set. I guess a fitting across the entire set is essential,as you say his hybrid now won’t fit with the irons. Still, I’ve not seen a 20 handicapper hit so consistently. His putting must be bad, get that done and he’ll be off 11 next week.
Sams putter fitting next please, followed by a gapping test and witb please. Great channel , keep up the good work.
Wish youse guys were closer to me, I’m currently an 18 and have the same MP-54s. Definitely in the market for some new sticks but don’t wanna get on a ✈️ right now. Anyway, great video.
It’s so difficult to compare the benefit of the Apex with a 2-3 degree difference in loft/club length. I hope the industry becomes more transparent and uses loft numbers on the clubs as with wedges. I had a club fitting recently and if I’m being honest i was very keen to get new irons as I’d had my Mizuno MX23’s for 14years , which I’d had fitted. Surprisingly the fitter sent me away saying he couldn’t improve on the fit and at 14 hhcp my money would be better spent on lessons in my weak areas(together with regripping everything in my bag for consistency).
Excellent video. I wish I knew a fitter in the area I live in that is as good as the fitter in this video.
That was brilliant! Extremely smart move to adjust Sam’s current irons to match the Modus.......eliminated the “what if” from the session. I’m afraid Ian is just a one of a kind fitter, always problem solving for best results and I’ll likely never find that experience locally (Bay Area, Northern California). However, I’m wondering if you’re planning a fitting tour in the future? Maybe partner with golf galaxy? It’s a crazy idea..... hoping to one day make it to TXG
Amazing. Wish I was local to you guys. Extra level of fitting I have not found in Cincinnati. While I love my fitted z785. From trackman. I would love to have access to gc4 to see face angle and all the extra data. You guys are stellar!
Another great vid guys. Can’t wait for the next one 👍👍👍
I balked at a fitting for a long time but then needed to get a new set due to wear n tear; started with driver,3,5 woods... went back and did my new irons after crushing my woods for the first time in my life. Do yourself a favor and get a fotting
Great video.Dynamic lie is far more important than getting a static fit.For instance according to Pings static fit measurements I'm Standard length with a blue dot lie angle.Dynamically I'm a plus half inch shaft length and a white dot lie angle.
Another great video. Quality work guys.
I wish you guys were in LA. I would go for a fitting today!
Looks like a good fitting result! Congrats.