How The Casino Comp System Works!
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- Steve and Matt Bourie, from the American Casino Guide, explain how the casino comp system works. They discuss how casinos determine your value to them as a player and how much they are willing to return to you in comps. Comp is short for complimentary, which are the free perks (free food, rooms, shows, cashback, etc.) that the casino will give you in return for your play. Topics covered include: the math used to determine your comps, the estimated comp rate, and the major differences between earning comps as a gaming machine player and as a table games player.
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I can’t wait until your next video I love this channel it’s so informative
I love the knowledge I gain from this channel. I work in casino marketing and use the info I get here to my guest room
Love this guys thank you!
Thanks for another informative video.... all of your help is greatly appreciated. :o)
Good info guys! Thanks
I love the American casino guide, It's very helpful for players on every level.
You tell'em buddy! I am sure that you will straighten out all of those casino-going sinners!
Yes, I am the guy at the table whom the casino (accurately) judges, “He doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing!”
You tell'em buddy! I am sure that you will straighten out all of those casino-going sinners!
I had absolutely no idea that some casinos rate you based on your blackjack skill level. Wow! Thanks for the info.
They also rate your speed. Slow player, fast player, or average/normal
Thanks.
Excellent video, as usual. I’m thinking explaining Boyd’s BConected comp system, would require its own video, as far as video poker is concerned. Or is it even possible to explain?
Poker room?
Hey guys, one of the casinos near me is an anomaly. I go there and play either blackjack, craps, or three card poker, or all three, but I do get mailers for a $10 coupon that I can actually cash at the cashier's cage. I get one of those each month usually.
Is it much easier for them to track your profit, pinned with your name and ID? Eventually they can id you as such player that they do not want to deal with.
this video really freaked me out. i have received comps from mgm twice now...
A friend started taking me to a local Casino in September and taught me how to play slots.
In December, I was given $20 for food at the Casino. I had earned over 200 points so I guess that $20 food credit was my 10% comp.
Thank you guys for the explanation!
Hey guys. Awesome video. I had a question. If your an AP, and you play rated at some casinos for comps using a players card, but you still use AP play and have a meager year to date win (Lets say hypothetically you have 300 hours play between several Total Rewards casinos, and you have a year to date win of over maybe $5000); are they gonna look twice at that and say "maybe we should check his play next time he sits down"? Or is that number too small to even care about, and will still gonna comp you based on 300 hours of theo, regardless of the win size? When WOULD that win size start to draw attention?
Lalo Eastside $5,000 shouldn’t trigger anything. If your total winnings pop up around $20-30k it might.
There are many Dueces Wild machines which have the following pay schedule: 1-2-2-3-4-13-16-200-800. This is almost the same as what you have at El Cortez casino except they have machines that pay 1-2-2-3-4-13-16-400-940 with higher amounts for the top two prizes. I can't find a figure for the payout on these machines which don't have the increased amounts for the top 2 prizes. What is the correct figure?
hi Steve and Matt!!!!!
Hi guys. As a Craps player it is very inconsistent how they “rate” for Craps players.
They give us shit for points on craps and the money goes so fast
Depending on the bets you make it can differ drastically. I know if you are betting the pass or don't pass line and betting a lot of free odds, most casinos don't even take the free odds into account when comping you because they have no house edge on that part of the bet.
do you recommend for players with a small bankroll to play in smaller casinos maybe in Downtown?
Generally, the slot machine returns are better at downtown casinos and also at the "locals" casinos along Boulder Highway and in North Las Vegas. See more here - www.americancasinoguide.com/slot-machine-payback-statistics.html#Nevada
Especially if they like you the PB might increase your minimum bet. I've had mine raised 5 - maybe 10 times the amount on card. So be nice to the PC and especially the dealer. A little OT but try to tip someone something. That loss of EV will lengthen your stay.
I'm disappointed about the changes in Boyd's comp system and the TIER system.
I'm a Ruby and i always will be.
THIS is excellent tutorial on the comp system,guys!
The palms casino has been giving me free play for table games but it's a one time bet and it's usually $100 or $50 and they make you bet it all at once. Some casinos will give you promotional chips and pay you back in real chips when you win.
Yeah, i get those one time free play's also. I guess if you're a slots player, you can play them one time but you can only play them on one session, and you have to play them one time through to get it back in cash, if you even win anything. I'll take my positive EV at the tables, and their little chicken shit freebies for table game players. But they really screw their slots players, and the players think they're getting this really good deal since they get a free room and meal.
On the craps table, how do they track what numbers or what part of the table you are betting? Just curious. I never see anyone writing anything down when I or anyone else is playing.
Well the field and come/don't come bets, it is up to you to keep track of which bet is yours and for pass/don't pass, you place it in front of you. But for pretty much every other bet on the table, you will see little lines about an inch long around the perimeter of the box and the area between each of those lines signifies the spot someone is standing at on the table. So if you look closely, if you are in the back left corner of the table they will place the bet you made between the two lines in the back left corner of the box of whatever bet you make.
Would it be bad to ignore a free room comp? Or do the casinos want to see you using them?
Why would you ignore a free room comp? As long as there is no obligation to play I don't see why you would. I don't know where you live, but any decent hotel room would be better than where I live. And yes, they want to see you using the comp, but they're really only interested in watching you lose your money in the casino.
I have a gambling strategy would love to talk to some people about it
I'm a big poker player. How do they track rewards for Poker?
Video Keno video please.
Interesting video. However, the sound on the two mics was rather uneven. Other than that, keep up the good info.
Would it be advantageous for my partner and I to get two cards under just one of our names then playing them both at the same time? If it matters, I prefer $1 machines while he prefers $0.01 machines. I know the house advantage is higher on the ones he plsys but since we split our bankroll and both play $500 each during our visit wouldn't that look more like we played $1,000 in one day as opposed to $500 separately?
You would be better off putting all of your play on one person's card. Then, on the next visit, switch and put all your play on the other person's card. The reasoning is explained in this other video - One Easy Tip to Increase Your Players Club Benefits - czcams.com/video/FHtYqJGDs7s/video.html
Question on players club comps. If I have my "MLife" card that I use at all MGM properties..., should I play only at 1 MGM property to get the most comps, or if I spread it over several of their properties, will I get the same offers? For example, if I have $300 and I spend it all at Mandalay Bay, or instead, I spend $100 at each site, ... i.e. NewYork NewYork, The MGM, and Mandalay Bay, will I get the same kind of comps? Is it better to stick with one casino EVEN if they are all on the same players club?
Each property will rate you separately. It would be best to put all the play in at the one casino you like best.
@@TheJackpotGents Thank you! I really appreciate the response!
Are there casinos that won’t give you anything regardless of how much you bet?
Can you explain how tier points are won? These are points needed to move up in Rewards level. It looks like you need to spend about $120,000 in slot play to move up. Cycling through (?) $30 per point is not clear to me. Thanks...
Each club is different. You would need to speak with a rep at each club, or visit their website, to get a better idea of how they operate.
It sure seems at Hardrock they adjust my comps based on ACTUAL WIN/LOSS rather than theoretical
I always spend at least over an hour playing on the $5 dollar blackjack table everytime I go to the casino. Is it really possible to ask the pitboss for a comp on the spot? I really didn't know that.
Never hurts to ask. they probably wont give anything tho
At $5 per hand you won’t get much. You’ll usually need to be playing green at smaller casinos and black at the big casinos to get much in the form of comps from blackjack.
$15 BJ gave me decent comps. Got a $50 dining credit, $25 match play and resort fees waived.
One time I was playing craps and winning at Caesars palace. When I colored up they have me a $1000 chip and when I went to the cage the lady did something in the computer with my id and said it was because I had the $1000 chip.
Another time I wasn’t doing well and they gave me 10 $100 chips back instead.
What is the meaning of this? I don’t think I was offered any comps either time.
U have to ask for a Comp!
You cash gold but you chase with black!
They wanted your identification details, so they covertly “bought” them by handing you a chip. Probably thought you were counting cards and wanted to see if you were in the database of advantaged players. You were on craps though, so it could be for other reasons they deemed suspicious. Just a theory
I got comped for Mlife rewards. Are there any issues I should worry about when booking my free 4 night stay ?
Try to put all your play in at the casino where you are comped. They will use your playing record to decide whether or not to send you more offers. And, don't bet extra just to get more comps. Just bet at a level where you feel comfortable.
@@TheJackpotGents thank you !
Wow! I can’t believe that casino let you film right there on the floor!
I hope you are being sarcastic
It's a green screen
Yeah, it's so interesting that the other people in the "casino" don't move.
Not the best speakers but some valuable info here.
hater, make a video so we can see how much you suck
If you get comped, you need help or a new hobby. Bigger the comp. Bigger the fish!
Here’s the big question: who do you talk to at the casino about comps?
they said in the video: pit boss.
Should an advantage player, that is an expert level Video Poker player and card counter, sign up for comps?
mydogskips2 For Video Poker, that’s kind of the point.
I’m not sure if you’re familiar with casinos in Maryland. Namely, Maryland Live. I’ve just started going maybe a month. I play $.05 slots. I usually sit for no more than 1 1 and 1/2. And usually walk away with SOMETHING. The most was about $240… almost two weeks ago. Well, this past Thursday, I lost $80 in maybe 30 minutes. That was deflating. Does using that card aid in deciding “let them take a loss” this time?
The vast majority of casinos base your comps on your "theoretical" loss. So, whether you win or lose, the comps will be the same.
I dont think the real High Rollers bother with a players card.
I lost 1,300 I got back 2.00 what bs
Steven I'm sorry a lot of places are super cheap. Stay out of casinos
Every Vegas casino I’ve worked for comps 10% off of your actual loss. So you should have gotten $130 in comps assuming you didn’t have comps already up front.
I don't get points...I've spent at least a couple thousand and only have 2841 points...it takes 50k to get to next card
Help
Try only playing when they have promotions with point multipliers.
The fact he calculated the odds from $800 is just painful
PLAY FOR THE MONEY. DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO PLAYING FOR COMPS. My favorite comp story: an ignorant craps player who played $100 flat bet with MAX ODDS. After losing $10,000 he wanted to know how many points he got. Since his flat bet was the only part of his bet rated, only a fraction of the $10,000 for rated. He went ballistic over the few points he got. I wanted to say, "What about the $10,000 you just lost?"
Odds are never good for comps what a tool. Like I play for the sake of enjoying. Maybe I get a buffet coupon and some drinks.
I've been given free rooms on minimal play but honestly it's crazy how little people think.
I wish my Dad was as cool as Matt’s. My Dad hates casinos aka hates everything I like I hate everything he likes.
Show me the money!
I Finally Won A Handpay On A Slot Machine, (Took Me 4years To Get A Handpay) @ $3.00 A Spin..I Won $2,200.. Boy I Thought That Machine Was A Lose Machine.. Went Back To The Same Machine @ The Same Time & Put In The Same Amount A Week After, Almost Lost Half Of It, Due To The Players Card.. Like You Guys Said The Card Knows How Much You Won Or Lost.. I Guess They Want You To Come Back Thinking You Can Win Again... Man! I Thought Wrong..Lol!
Casino gives out loans to get us back in
Interesting. How much did you lose before you got that?
False. The machine payout is over millions of spins. It comes down to odds/luck. Over time you will ALWAYS lose.
My question: Will the Casinos ask a person to stop playing games like Roulette, Craps...if you are a high better and a high winner, and you are not playing/counting cards/varying bets at Blackjack? We are assuming you have normal human behavior and no alcohol/drug problems.
No because casinos only get 2 types of peoples losers and liars
yeah but video poker you win les than animated free spins lol
There are no advantage players outside BJ otherwise they would back you off. Let's make that clear before you send people off to video poker
Not hear in Indian land they too k ask my comps away at ceder creek casino they got everyone money they're making a new one across the street but us the people don't get shit for comp if you use the card then we loose all the time cards . They sick of you asian you win ask time ask ask color people in tuliap wa
How fraudsters work
👎🏼Vegas comp systems changed bro
Give people the new knowledge
On how to get hotels comped there is a new algorithm
This guy is just another casino workers because no one wins on casinos no matter what this guy wants give you idea just to go back and loss again
If no one wins, they wouldn't come back.
My local casino is always busy and I have lost $0 since I started going in September.
I play the slots whenever they have freeplays and don't take any of my own money with me. I keep all my winnnings in one place and don't spend any of it.
Next year, I plan on combining my winnings with my freeplays to make larger bets and hopefully have bigger winnings so I can earn points faster to get better comps. 😁
Steve and matt boring. . . lol
Quit being a dick, Dick!