ITE graduates react to Singaporeans’ impression of ITE
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Love that uncle! His conviction of the institution and the students from it is contagious. One thing is so true - often we see true resilience from the ITE grads. And they can be so so creative.
ITE is definitely not "It's the end". I'm studying in poly right now and I met a lot of former ITE students who are doing very well right now because they have already learnt the basic hands on techniques as compared to us O level graduates. For those who are in ITE, don't let others look down on you and continue to work hard and you can be as successful as other people as well.
Well said ! Awesome perspective.
It's really disappointing that people have this mindset. Back in secondary school one of my teachers said the same thing about ITE and told all the students to aim for poly or JC only. Thinking about it now makes me really angry because as a teacher he should have set a better example to everyone.
@@MultiMon15 such fixed mindset is pathetic.Nevertheless, I have seen many from ITE who have moved on to excel in various fields.Vocational Education is a life skill. Afterall, It's Towards Excellence😉
a lot but not all
The general idea I got from my sister's anecdotes (who studies in ITE) is that the general work attitude and maturity of students is vastly different compared to students from other institutions. Those who make it to poly that your talking about? Those are the cream of the crop of ITE, the top 20%.
ITE certainly isn't the end, no doubt. But it's hardly an ideal starting point.
that uncle is very supportive. its the willingness and the hunger to find knowledge is important, no matter which school you attend to.
ITE is a good school
I took Nitec in infocom in 2012
Serve NS and took part time higher Nitec in 2014-2017
Diploma in legal studies in Kaplan in 2018
Degree from a accredited public UK university in hospitality and tourism in 2019
2nd Diploma in HRM in RP in 2021
Currently 27 of age and working in public service. Life is good. Just remember that learning is a journey and not a destination
Well said!
Amen brother!
I am surprised how the old guy gets it compared to the newer generation. ITE courses are more relevant than ever these years. It's the 'cut-to-the-chase skillset' that many companies demand these days to be honest.
He gets it because his child went through it. Any parent would be less-informed and prolly be demeaning of ITE if their child was better than "ITE standards"
It's simply the govt's fault 20 years ago for inculcating this perception. And only recently they've been stepping up to clean this reputation.
@@nicholasbolas I am not sure how things were 20 years ago. These days I can see how well developed the facilities are within these ITE's funded by the government, They clearly aren't dissing ITE's in any way and have moved on. Those 'parents' are mostly to blame to be still stuck in that 20-year-old mindset but I can understand, it's just the culture here in Singapore is slow to adapt to changes or perceptions. Kids also follow their parents so that mindset is easily passed down from one generation to the next.
I think the point is of course everyone wants to get into the best schools and get the best qualification. But nobody should be judged or stereotyped just because they came from a certain institution or is studying at one. A piece of paper (qualification) does not determine your future, but what you do with it does.
I graduated from ITE almost 20 years ago , although I changed my industry now but ITE was a part of my life that I am not ashamed of !
I was from poly myself. Although during my time, it was encouraged to go to poly or jc. Now it’s completely different, I know people whom are in a high engineering role from ite, as well as people who went to prestigious jcs, and went to uni, and dropping out because they couldn’t cope with it. It all depends on the individual mindset, and whether he has the passion for it
Not many people know that ITE offers diploma courses as well. I was from a course called Technical Engineer Diploma in Machine Technology in collaboration with Ministry of education, youth and sports, Baden-Wurttemberg (Germany).
I'm actually very glad that public perceptions of ITE are shifting towards the positive side.
I myself was from ITE and went on to poly and work for 2 years and went on to University and just graduated from a computer science degree. When I was working for 2 years I felt that you still need the degree tickets for promotion or progression for IT/engineering career because in SG mostly they see qualification as you noted in governments sector or even army. Unless you are doing business then qualification don’t matter.
ITE was my beginning, I started to work hard and achieved course medalist for ITE business school, completed my Diploma in Ngee Ann Poly and University's degree majoring accountancy.
Im honoured to have went to ITE,theyre the reason where I am today and I like to think that ITE has a brighter future.🙂👍
It is hands on learning with specific skills set. I would recommend people who doesn't like reading books or practical learning than theory to go for ITE. It is good that the government has created pathways forward for those graduates who wish to progress to getting a diploma or even University degree. Sometimes, hands on experience will tell us what we can do best.
I can confirm, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the ITE students here are already far more eloquent and seem more socially competent than a lot of university graduates I’ve seen. Hands-on skills aside, ITE students like those represented in this video have abundant soft-skills which are vital in real life employment.
So yeah unless you plan on getting into industries that specifically require such a high level of technical knowledge and bureaucratic proficiency (usually those that need masters or PhD qualifications to stay competitive), the school/institution doesn’t matter
The old Indian gentleman is the best of them all.
I'm from tertiary design school and some of my batchmates who have studied in ITE are amazing at what they do
1:35 "...heard from like, many Asian family members..."
Sounds like someone's having an identity crisis.😂
From, ex-ITE student
😂 she just trying to sound polite, like present societal perception from a 3rd party point of view. Quite smart, must be JC material one. But pls, save me the formalities 🙄.
We all have different pace & timeline. The Default route is there as a guideline but it’s not necessarily for everyone. Don’t look down on other just because their pace is not the same as yours. Everyone is different. The Important thing is what you do with your life to make it meaningful and happy.
ITE giving me the skill and knowledge to enter the workforce. I was from ITE Ang Mo Kio (2003-2004)
A lot of my Poly friends, who came from ITE, are now in university.
Unpopular opinion: all in front of camera will say the good things la about ite. Basic psychology
ITE best place please! I graduate from there! Met a lot good homies and teachers ❤️
To me ITE is the end from a former ITE student of me which completed my nitec course but unable to progress to higher nitec or poly due to low gpa and jobless since finish NS. Wasted my 2 years studying nitec in security technology and currently I working as security officer lols no need ITE cert for it.
This 3 people are the nice, friendly and behaved people.😊😊 unlike from personal experience during my ite days😢.😮
Some flowers take more time to bloom. Some flowers bloom fast and fade fast. Seen a lot of academically inclined ones, who are not doing well at all now. The certificates don’t mean everything. Don’t judge a fish based on its ability to climb a tree.
Some flowers simply doesn't bloom
lol everyone who is not dead, whether they studied in ITE or elsewhere, obviously has a future. It is how we use our education that counts, our values also shape our lives. Plus, learning is a never ending process, as long as we keep honing our skills and gaining new/more knowledge, we will always be better than we were before.
defensive mode triggered after the guy said "it's the end"
Alot of people fail to realise that there is literally no other educational pathways one can go after secondary school if they failed to make it to ITE...Hence why our government and schools have allowed people to retain and retake their O's and N's levels. That being said, figuritavely...ITE is literally the "end" to what is a tertiary education ladder but not the end to hopes, dreams and aspirtions of learners. The best way i can put it.
I am a former ITE student too and I got into a good university too is not the end haha
The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth.
Its not the end. Its only just beginning!
Why never talk about the pay difference?
Tbh, I don't regret going to ITE. Just love the life style and education there compared to my Polytechnic days.
What was the original video I can’t find it
Formal ITE Student here, Poly really sucks, but I chose Poly because the Work-Study Diploma for my prefered Course looks dull and boring. No choice, gotta move on to Poly, Theory is killing me, and Practical A+
I hate theory too.
former*
Typical poly life:(( but WSD is quite appealing and good too though but i lost to the interview
Wait till you go Uni, Maximum emphasis on useless Theory, minimal hands on practical, and even if there is, almost irrelecant & alot is self guided. Walk into lab, then Prof ask lab assistant to just flash some slides then say `oh, you guys can start alrdy, just follow the slides. Carry on....` like WTF?!? Thought you suppose to teach. Thats what you are paid for, not some PPT monkey just do & present PPT slides only. Pls lah, who doesnt know how to create/read PPT, your job is to fucking teach. Sometimes I envy my friends from Poly / ITE technical onstotutes where the teacher really drill in their foubdation, alot of guidance. JC ppl like us rly just bookworms. Can study, can talk, can present. Just dont ask us Technical questions, cos we are not rly that well trained. Why? As i explained above. All the practical can say is self guided learning. XD Thanks Uni... dunno why I pay 8K + per sem to graduate with these toilet paper certs that doesnt equip me with relevant skillsets for the industry. Shld look at the quality of your profs, are they still up to date with the indsutry / just some academia nerd lost touch with outside tools, tech. Imho better to get adjunc profs with relevant skillsets than full time profs who alrdg lose motivation and just teach the same old material waiting for their monthly paycheck.
The industry values practical skillsets over theory. Theory is only good if you want to go into research, else hands on relevant practical skillsets is what the indsutry actually values, not how much theory/definition you can regurgitate from the stupid textbook/syllabus.
Maybe give society(employers) some time to adjust their hiring mindset.
But rly, having uni cert still impt for starting pay wise, at least for now.
its not the end. Just the path of last resort.. simply that. its the end when there is no path.
BUT a path of last resort need not be glorified. Just be honest. Honesty is the best policy
Am not from ite but now taking sgus at ite....imo, it's really the kids they fk themselves up. Everytime I'm there there's ppl sitting outside the class like secondary school sia,nv grow up like that. Nobody can help them if they dont wanna help themselves. They dont take themselves seriously how to make others take them seriously?
The place is indeed like poly.
Even if some of the lecturer sux(uninspiring) they at least got the knowledge,just ask until you understand. Or look up youtube for more examples to help you understand.
Very well said.
This video is obviously too skewed towards the positive aspects without mentioning the negative. Idk if the engineering world really doesn't care whether you are ITE or Degree holder, but you definitely can't say the same for business roles
From where?
West,central,east?
Or all?
OMG Christine 😍😍
I was from the normal academic stream so I took N level’s although I knew i was eligible for PFP since I received my results , I still went to ite for a couple of weeks to experience what it was like there erm Ngl the environment is super inclusive and fun but terrible if you want to try to actually study and excel in academics errr after enrolling into poly I got to meet a few ite grads that made it into poly and holy shit were they smart so I guess it’s all about discipline and who you hang out with! But there are a few bad apples that bring the impression of ITE down
ITE=it’s to enjoy
👍👍👍
Cutting edge facilities, i would say hell no. Wifi connections defer from all 3 colleges only staff have the best wifi connection
When it’s over, but you are still hanging on…….
One look and you can tell that those 2 girls who responded negatively when asked about ite, shows that they are probably the type of person to look down on others just because they are from poly or JC it does not automatically made them higher class than any other human beings, all humans have their own area of strength so yeah it's a pity that newer generation kid were brainwashed by their parents from older generation with traditional narrow mindset to judge people base on education level. So what if a person graduated from ite? Does it mean it's the end? On contrary many of the ite students were actually more efficient and hardworking in the workforce compare to those poly and jc kids who tend to judge others more frequently base on education level. Being smart is one thing but being a good human is another. The world does not need many smart asses, what the world needs are people who are humble and kind in order for humanity to strive towards peace. War between countries often were engaged by well educated people who leads the country, so my point is that being smart is not everything in this world. Being a good human being is actually very rare and hard to find in this new era where people were motivated by greed
well said
Im a nitec student getting a GPA of 3.0, don't know if im able to go poly, I want to try apply EAE but scared if cannot make in or rejected. How can i continue my study?
I would like to ask if I can study in the business course with GPA 3.0 and 1 year of working experience in business because Ive been working in business for 7months, If I can study in temasek poly business course, do I need to ask my manager to write a letter proving that I'm staff of the company.
Why never ask me to react :( (as a ITE grad)
ITS THE END!
In real world ITE grd are wall paid better that those from nus or ntu. Most company like to hire ite grd.
2:51 I actually disagree. A level cert is probably the most useless in the working world, followed by nitec, then diploma.
ITE grad here. Was earning 7k a month.
Probably 37 years of experience?
@@osmomosis9216 nope. 10 years only.
without any other paper qualification?
What is ur industry?
@@user-em8fq2ev4b I have other cert but irrelevant cert. I was in electrical industry. I have NTC-2 electrical cert and a those 1 year pte diploma cert in logistic. But electrical industry logistic cert is useless.
@@Jack-hy2ki Nice, seems like electrical industry is nice. Care to share more details? Like what company or nature of work?
Please do not blame public. Going back to the root from beginning, when late Lee Kwan Yew's times, their generation only look up to elite, never look up to less smart people or learning much slower people, no they have not, getting the root issue it is the leadership of the country that are narrow minded at that point and leading to the next 20 years lousy impression of ite. They the leadership lookup to nus and ntu.. But what's now.. So many perverts.. Study so much and smart to be one like this. Now after this wrong thinking of the leaders of our so called elite ministers, how good are they?? 🤔 🤔 Education or knowledge is worthless without a good character or better wisdom. I cheer for ite that their shining time is here and forever more basically they learnt skill sets which are more useful and marketable now. ITE represent the future of Singapore be it any skills sets. I hope the society should paid more to ite their skills,because it is going to be bespoke skill no one can create but yourself. Knowledge and higher education in nus and ntu only paper and only name, nothing worthy of to spend so much money and time in nus and ntu to be employability for 20 years only and get fired and retrenched by 40 and become grab, taxi and delivery man or uncle.. Think wise and think future and have a skill not replaced easily by the govt so called foreign talents.. Hard truth and reality fact.The environment change faster than the govt can adapt, don't say ordinary working people.. If so easy and good, our heng should continue the baton. Either heng himself heng.. Free liao..& our next generation not very heng. 😂 😂
My ITE experience sucks with shit coursemates around..
0:3:30
Bullshit employer don't look into GPA. your GPA is your first key indicators for a fresh grad.
they don't even need to ask you. they will see the transcript themselves, unless your employer don't need you to submit your cert.
for a degree graduate, there are certain company they will only called you down for interview. if only you are 1st class or 2nd class upper only.
Expected we have hate comments(people who are 1 sided)
They will be singing a different tune when it used to be VITB😂
Blame JACK NEO for ITE .
True plus he was the one who created I'm not stupid
Let’s be honest here
Most of us after NS pretty much lost interest of our course and take new ones instead
I was from facility technology at ite east
After NS, I tried looking for maintenance work and after 3 month of part time and job searching I gave up and just work as a night shift security guard until now
Why never interview meeeee
You spelled my friend name wrongly, is Jea Yee, not Jae Yee!!!
Christine is cute la
lets be honest. ITE is still ITE. ITE is below Poly.
In the working society. Poly grad salary ($2500 and above) is still higher than ITE grad ($2000) in MOST organizations.
ITE is also a longer path towards University. So i dont find whats the benefit of ITE in SG. who wants to go to ITE? for a guy. you have wasted 2 years in NS. now you gotta waste another 2-3 years in ITE.
Once guys who finish University via Sec4(NT) > ITE > NS > Poly > Uni. he would be 28-29 when he comes out to work and earn a decent salary which is already a huge setback to begin.
Girls that grad from NTU/NUS/SMU which i assume they will be 22-23. they will be earning almost the same salary as a guy who've been through ITE which is 28-29. If for a guy who dont go through ITE but go through local Uni i suppose they will be 26-27. Technically, an ITE grad will lose 2-3 years of salary. lets say $4k x 12 x 3, which is almost $144000. So think again, do you want to go through ITE?
The benefit of ITE is for students who may be less academically-inclined still have a pathway within the existing education structure leading to different job opportunities in the future. As mentioned by the male graduate, in a company there are different tiers of workers, and there would be one that need the technicians (technical people). ITE empowers the students to gain employment - with technical expertise in the respective fields - and it is for the graduate to find his own path (to wealth & success) thereafter.
As one female interviewee mentioned, nobody aspires to go ITE, and you rightly said the reasons. But not everybody can enroll into a polytechnic right after N/O Levels - what happens to them - they are stuck with just their cert. ITE gives them the hands-on knowledge. The other option would be to go straight into workforce, gaining industry experience. But fresh out of school with no knowledge of the industry - the draw back is said person would have to endure the growing pains of being the blur sotong (until they learn the ropes). They prolly will still be like blur sotong fresh out of school, but less so if they had good internship experience.
About potential money loss, in the same situation (same perimeters), it was never the person's to begin with - the person will be spending that 2-3 years retaking O Levels or finding alternatives - i.e. getting private diploma. This might be a better option, actually, but the drawback is that it is less recognised by local companies. So there still will be pay discrepancies, just that the losses are reduced.
In any case... Being an ITE-sponsored content (ad), as with all advertisements, they need to show the beautiful side of things while still being true. Their target audience is prolly the NT N Level students, and O Level students who may need an alternative route.
definitely agree with what you say.
ITE to diploma then to Part time NUS Graduate
if you ask me now, do i still want to go ITE?
No. waste of my time seriously. i can only blame myself for not studying at O Level, i went through a longer path.
You might look it at that way but what if those people aren’t as intelligent? Or they have mental health issues? And ITE isn’t just a place to get your education, it’s a place to gain new skills and knowledge.
@@keonxd8918 this is a optimistic viewpoint. you are not wrong either.
it does provide a certain degree of skillset for the workforce.
ultimately no one will aspire to be there.
As an N Level graduate, Polytechnic would be a University for me
Bad student went fight with people for no reason sometimes not from ITE. Some family or some actor Jack Neo say ITE is "It's The End". He just grad from same school as Minister Lawrence Wong. He from uni or Jack Neo?
Pioneer Gen always haress student from other school so don't use ITE to shield kidnap scammer.
the girl that say "JC graduates", idk what drugs u are on but i do really want some
4:30
Singapore education certificate value not my choice
This is all a system of controls. As long as you eat the blue pill and are content, the system remains stable.
Lmfao what a clown, also the blue pill red pill thing is an lgbt allegory lol
I make 300k a year working for someone with only something like N levels. Don’t even have ITE… lol
Thats only possible with biz lol
At the end of the day, bad result go ITE, good result go POLY or JC. discuss so much, ask so many people for what. Nothing else to post? at the end of the day, If you are the headhunter, how will you filter thousands of candidates. The perception will never change.
Just admit it. Once you go to ite ur life probably failed already. It's the end
Bro then youre just lazy and gave up on life as a whole and frankly very stupid if ypure like ite is literally the end AHHH like dude not like there’s no paths
Ya if u decide to give up your studies in ITE….it rly “it’s the end” for u
ITE is like poly...
Yeah, because after graduating you can go to university...
Oh, wait. You have to go to poly AFTER graduating from ITE...
Unless you graduate from ITE’s diploma courses then you will be able to go to university without needing to go to Poly since it has the same qualifications
Lucky i was from jc my family looked high upon me
All your Asian relatives trying to force on you their beliefs
mothership always trying stir shit and gather reaction for clicks
JC is overrated... Study so much but in the end it doesn't matter... The point is there are many ppl from ITE who earn more than them. Key is need to how to sweet talk and sell yourself during interview
Sorry to break it to you but degree holders are paid significantly better and you can see it in the pay gap itself
@@osmomosis9216 if they can get past the interview... I know degree holders cant talk well even if they have the best grades and qualifications. But when they are given a scenario, they fumble their words. Main thing is to look confident and not be scared to answer the questions, even if some are bs and exaggerated. That's how a lot of foreign trash can get paid 5-6 figure salary
it fucking matters and not overrated. A ITE graduate vs a JC graduate in a company who has good pay who would go in. Obviously JC. See mark zuckerburg and all the big ceo all reached harvard. All ite is dumb
degree is a way of building up your portfolio.
sweet talk, presentation and all are additional skillset.
@@Xinlongsai bold of you to say that when your grammar sucks "In a company who has good pay"
ITE = its the end, for lazy people.. thats my impression of ITE