I suspect that when we first tighten the head unit screws they eventually wear away the paint below them and creates a gap. I had the same thing happen and saw some paint flake out when I re-tightened. It's been great for me, too!
I really respect what Apollo has done here, in terms of innovation. Rather than joining the other manufacturers & trying to get these things to 200km/h, they seem to be focused on making scooters better. They finally put a proper kickstand on it & put the charge port near the stem & they've continued to use the regen braking which I really love. The IP66 rating is something the industry should have adopted by now & I'm glad Apollo took the lead. The puncture-resistant tires (and their 12" size) are a huge plus. I find I need to change my 10" tires around 1500 kms at most & that can get annoying. It really should have *slightly* more speed/power. My '23 Phantom has all the power I need & I'd definitely upgrade range before I'd seek more power, but for more than double the price, it seems a bit odd to have the same motors - especially with the very fierce competition out there in top speed/range. It also looks like it has the same 1000lumen headlight that's on the Phantom. From experience, that's "be seen", not "see in the dark" brightness so riding at night, I'd mount something brighter with some stank on it. I do wonder how the Pro's dual suspension feels compared with the Phantom's quadruple. So far, the handgrips are the only thing I see that I'd replace immediately. Please don't take this as an insult, it's only my observation which means nothing to anyone reading this - but the body and front display are really ugly - the body should have a more sleek look, like maybe a tubular frame like the Nami Burn E 2 Max but it ends up looking like a messed-up rectangle, like cheap 80's furniture. The surround lighting is also decidedly tacky. Maybe it makes sense on the stem, but on the floor, it just looks like a kid's toy. Finally, the big, rectangular headstock/gooseneck looks chunky & cheap. I've got a '22 Ghost and a '23 Phantom & I'm likely upgrading them in the spring. I want to stay with Apollo but I haven't decided yet. Regen braking is a huge draw for me, as well as supporting a Canadian company. At twice the price though, I don't see THAT much value over the Phantom. Thanks for a quick look at the scooter, so far the reviews are good - just nothing that really critiques it yet. There are many pundits who just moan erotically over it so they get free gear - it's good to have a real-world look at it.
@@vwbora26 Most of it does look great, but that square, Stalin-esque gooseneck (from the front/side) looks particularly thrown-together. My '23 Phantom could be subject to the same ugly stick in another person's pov so I'm not the ultimate judge. As I consider other brands/models, two things about this scooter stand out as "best in show" for me: the tires are ideal & the regen braking, now that I've got 800 kms on my Phantom, is my new favorite thing. The Nami Burn-E 2 Max is more my 'style', which is to say less-refined & utilitarian. That said, the Pro is superior to all my "second choices" in everything but power/range. Appreciate the video, merci! Oh, and if you're ridden the Apollo Phantom (2023), could you comment as to how its suspension compares to the Pro? I only upgraded from a '22 Ghost (my first e-scooter) & the suspension on the Phantom, while kind of bulky, has been SO smooth. I'd imagine the Pro is quite a bit sportier feeling.
my point is, how reliable or durable they are? if I do 50k miles or more will they shut down? is Apollo pro the best scooter that can manage this level of usage without any fault? this is the real winner here, and not speed.@@vwbora26
I do think the Apollo pro is a bit over hyped and not just because everyone else is over hyped. The difference between a $3500 dualtron scooter and the Apollo pro is night and day. You get WAYYY more bang for your buck with those other brands. However, that is not to discount how brilliant the Apollo pro is. It does come jam pact with so much modern technology that is simply not available anywhere else. I am a pure sucker for the cyber punk look so I REALLY want this scooter. Good to know it still performs well after so many km of riding.
I'm on the same boat as you in many ways. It's tough to get honest, brand-agnostic comparisons with so many cheerleader-channels looking for free gear. I'm considering the Dualtron as well, but also do find value in knowing I can contact Apollo & have something proprietary shipped to me in 2 days or less. What Apollo did right here is the tires & regen-braking system & the IP66 water/dust resistance - from what I've read so far, it's industry-leading & that deserves extra investment. The exhaustive testing is something you don't see in such a thriving, growing, standards-free industry. Most companies are just sourcing & assembling parts. I've got the Pro's predecessor, the 2023 Phantom (about 900kms into it) - and the Pro is quite a bit larger, something I didn't know until I saw another video on this channel. I still haven't heard from anyone that has both, which one has the best suspension system. I'm assuming it's the Pro, but with about a billion videos out there, all we get are stats & very few comparative assessments. The controller in the Pro is going to limit the battery/motor performance towards longevity. It's got the same battery pack & bigger motors than heavier performance scooters & yet its range & top speed are what seems to be 30% less. Could be a battery cooling feature, could be because they have to stand by their scooter rather than just selling it & forgetting it. The Nami Burn E-2 has two 1000W motors (Apollo Pro has two 1200W motors), yet the Nami is slightly faster & considerably better *claimed* range. Nami's approach is to apparently demand more from the battery pack. It seems like Apollo is holding back. Not saying 70km/h isn't more than fast enough for me, but with 12" wheels rather than the 10" ones I'm on now, for over twice the price, there's no reason 90km/h or 100km/h rather than the 70km/h it's claimed for shouldn't be available. Maybe a "Pro2" is in the works, maybe a firmware update, upon signing a warranty waiver, could punch out another 10km/h & better range at the expense of the battery's lifespan.
Loctite is your friend. I use it on all of my PEV's to ensure that all screws stay where they are installed, and don't come loose. Screws coming loose is normal on scooters since they travel over rough surfaces, and the bouncing shakes the screws loose over time.
2:25 On the Segway f35 we got it kept coming lose there. The screws lock tight was no good so I added my own blue lock tight and that fixed the problem
This is my new favorite design look. I also love the look of the inmotion RS. The price is too high for what u get in my opinion. I think the top speed should’ve been at least 50 mph thou. Oh. And disc brakes.
Merci pour le vidéo. J'ai moi aussi un Apollo PRO et moisn de 100km au compteur. Ma roue arrière semble très instable (wobble), on entend d'aileurs cette instabilité en roulant.. est-ce que tu crois que 'est normal?
I would imagine that velcro band would make the stem less safe not more. Imagine that band slides down and the pressure from you pulling on the stem presses against the latch release while you're riding. I can not see any sense on having that there it offers no support what so ever
Assuming is what people do on the internet, I tested what you are saying of course, the orange release button requires quite some force to unlatch, the velcro is in no way capable of that, I check it out, and also it prevent the latch from opening anyways.
best on market like for me except deck width which is lil to small for hold both legs in the same line while cruise 👌🏻but battery size performance maintenance less breaks wheel size self healing suspension handlebars hight from deck thumb throtle almost enough ip rating 😉 its almost perfect except this deck width 👌🏻
When you hit a pot whole with a 10" tires & crash,you'll really appreciate the 12" tires!!!🎉😂❤. TANK YOU APOLLO TEAM CANADA 🇨🇦 .🇱🇺. AN UNMATCHED WORLD CLASS 🌎 ESCOOTER.😊
Awesome to hear positive things on it :) I purchased it and then realized that most people on reddit hate Apollo because of their older models issues, which made me consider refunding my indiegogo purchase Plus they seem to have improved their QC? Idk, I haven't seen any reddit complain about new models, I currently own a City 2023 and it's going strong still after 300km, I hope this new QC will be the same for the Pro Also i've read countless comments from people on the escooter subreddit whine about the price but yeah I agree with them, $5000 cad is very overpriced but imo the pre order price I paid for was just right so its whatever to me idc
also to be honest, one of my top reasons I went for this one is because of the GPS and anti theft features a shame that no one has reviewed these yet, I really want to know if its overpriced/hyped garbage or not hmmm
4 flats Apollo explorer 2020 within 330 km…. I sold it at loss Next time either those airless tires Honeycomb, or tubeless , preferably a company that I loves you to the mall, visuals sideways without removing the wheel, like inokim
@@vwbora26 ah j'aurais adorer la voir en vrai avan de la commander apres l'hiver , on est a quebec avec une gt2/p100 si jamais tu vien explorer ici on a dans les plus belles/longues piste ciclable en amerique du nord , tu me feras signe si jamais ! tention a toi et bonne ride 🤟😎
You really don’t need the Velcro. It’s a very secure design.
My latch was defective
I suspect that when we first tighten the head unit screws they eventually wear away the paint below them and creates a gap. I had the same thing happen and saw some paint flake out when I re-tightened. It's been great for me, too!
I really respect what Apollo has done here, in terms of innovation. Rather than joining the other manufacturers & trying to get these things to 200km/h, they seem to be focused on making scooters better. They finally put a proper kickstand on it & put the charge port near the stem & they've continued to use the regen braking which I really love. The IP66 rating is something the industry should have adopted by now & I'm glad Apollo took the lead. The puncture-resistant tires (and their 12" size) are a huge plus. I find I need to change my 10" tires around 1500 kms at most & that can get annoying. It really should have *slightly* more speed/power. My '23 Phantom has all the power I need & I'd definitely upgrade range before I'd seek more power, but for more than double the price, it seems a bit odd to have the same motors - especially with the very fierce competition out there in top speed/range. It also looks like it has the same 1000lumen headlight that's on the Phantom. From experience, that's "be seen", not "see in the dark" brightness so riding at night, I'd mount something brighter with some stank on it. I do wonder how the Pro's dual suspension feels compared with the Phantom's quadruple.
So far, the handgrips are the only thing I see that I'd replace immediately.
Please don't take this as an insult, it's only my observation which means nothing to anyone reading this - but the body and front display are really ugly - the body should have a more sleek look, like maybe a tubular frame like the Nami Burn E 2 Max but it ends up looking like a messed-up rectangle, like cheap 80's furniture. The surround lighting is also decidedly tacky. Maybe it makes sense on the stem, but on the floor, it just looks like a kid's toy. Finally, the big, rectangular headstock/gooseneck looks chunky & cheap.
I've got a '22 Ghost and a '23 Phantom & I'm likely upgrading them in the spring. I want to stay with Apollo but I haven't decided yet. Regen braking is a huge draw for me, as well as supporting a Canadian company. At twice the price though, I don't see THAT much value over the Phantom.
Thanks for a quick look at the scooter, so far the reviews are good - just nothing that really critiques it yet. There are many pundits who just moan erotically over it so they get free gear - it's good to have a real-world look at it.
Style is subjective, for me this thing looks absolutely gorgeous, and it is way better in real than any videos or photos may suggest.
@@vwbora26 Most of it does look great, but that square, Stalin-esque gooseneck (from the front/side) looks particularly thrown-together. My '23 Phantom could be subject to the same ugly stick in another person's pov so I'm not the ultimate judge.
As I consider other brands/models, two things about this scooter stand out as "best in show" for me: the tires are ideal & the regen braking, now that I've got 800 kms on my Phantom, is my new favorite thing. The Nami Burn-E 2 Max is more my 'style', which is to say less-refined & utilitarian. That said, the Pro is superior to all my "second choices" in everything but power/range. Appreciate the video, merci!
Oh, and if you're ridden the Apollo Phantom (2023), could you comment as to how its suspension compares to the Pro? I only upgraded from a '22 Ghost (my first e-scooter) & the suspension on the Phantom, while kind of bulky, has been SO smooth. I'd imagine the Pro is quite a bit sportier feeling.
Will those scooters last until 50k miles? Apollo engine rated to last until 140k miles then go for replacement. ???
@@ecod7r show me anyone who will do 50k miles on an electric scooter 🤣 that would take 30 years or more.
my point is, how reliable or durable they are? if I do 50k miles or more will they shut down? is Apollo pro the best scooter that can manage this level of usage without any fault? this is the real winner here, and not speed.@@vwbora26
Great video man, thanks for sharing 👍🏽
Thanks for watching!
Great review, keep them coming
I do think the Apollo pro is a bit over hyped and not just because everyone else is over hyped. The difference between a $3500 dualtron scooter and the Apollo pro is night and day. You get WAYYY more bang for your buck with those other brands. However, that is not to discount how brilliant the Apollo pro is. It does come jam pact with so much modern technology that is simply not available anywhere else. I am a pure sucker for the cyber punk look so I REALLY want this scooter. Good to know it still performs well after so many km of riding.
I'm on the same boat as you in many ways. It's tough to get honest, brand-agnostic comparisons with so many cheerleader-channels looking for free gear. I'm considering the Dualtron as well, but also do find value in knowing I can contact Apollo & have something proprietary shipped to me in 2 days or less.
What Apollo did right here is the tires & regen-braking system & the IP66 water/dust resistance - from what I've read so far, it's industry-leading & that deserves extra investment. The exhaustive testing is something you don't see in such a thriving, growing, standards-free industry. Most companies are just sourcing & assembling parts. I've got the Pro's predecessor, the 2023 Phantom (about 900kms into it) - and the Pro is quite a bit larger, something I didn't know until I saw another video on this channel. I still haven't heard from anyone that has both, which one has the best suspension system. I'm assuming it's the Pro, but with about a billion videos out there, all we get are stats & very few comparative assessments. The controller in the Pro is going to limit the battery/motor performance towards longevity. It's got the same battery pack & bigger motors than heavier performance scooters & yet its range & top speed are what seems to be 30% less. Could be a battery cooling feature, could be because they have to stand by their scooter rather than just selling it & forgetting it.
The Nami Burn E-2 has two 1000W motors (Apollo Pro has two 1200W motors), yet the Nami is slightly faster & considerably better *claimed* range. Nami's approach is to apparently demand more from the battery pack. It seems like Apollo is holding back. Not saying 70km/h isn't more than fast enough for me, but with 12" wheels rather than the 10" ones I'm on now, for over twice the price, there's no reason 90km/h or 100km/h rather than the 70km/h it's claimed for shouldn't be available. Maybe a "Pro2" is in the works, maybe a firmware update, upon signing a warranty waiver, could punch out another 10km/h & better range at the expense of the battery's lifespan.
Loctite is your friend. I use it on all of my PEV's to ensure that all screws stay where they are installed, and don't come loose. Screws coming loose is normal on scooters since they travel over rough surfaces, and the bouncing shakes the screws loose over time.
Happy scooting stay safe 👍
Thank you, I will
Great review 👍🏽
Glad you liked it
2:25 On the Segway f35 we got it kept coming lose there. The screws lock tight was no good so I added my own blue lock tight and that fixed the problem
This is my new favorite design look. I also love the look of the inmotion RS. The price is too high for what u get in my opinion. I think the top speed should’ve been at least 50 mph thou. Oh. And disc brakes.
They have a double locking mechanism on stem latch already - Velcro strap prob waste time
Merci pour le vidéo. J'ai moi aussi un Apollo PRO et moisn de 100km au compteur. Ma roue arrière semble très instable (wobble), on entend d'aileurs cette instabilité en roulant.. est-ce que tu crois que 'est normal?
Ce n'est pas normal
Verifie le serrage des boulons
I would imagine that velcro band would make the stem less safe not more. Imagine that band slides down and the pressure from you pulling on the stem presses against the latch release while you're riding. I can not see any sense on having that there it offers no support what so ever
Assuming is what people do on the internet, I tested what you are saying of course, the orange release button requires quite some force to unlatch, the velcro is in no way capable of that, I check it out, and also it prevent the latch from opening anyways.
best on market like for me except deck width which is lil to small for hold both legs in the same line while cruise 👌🏻but battery size performance maintenance less breaks wheel size self healing suspension handlebars hight from deck thumb throtle almost enough ip rating 😉 its almost perfect except this deck width 👌🏻
where is this lake? what country and city? so beautiful!
Canada 🇨🇦
Nice review.
Thank you! Cheers!
Hey, would you buy this again today if you had to make the choice?
Yes absolutely
When you hit a pot whole with a 10" tires & crash,you'll really appreciate the 12" tires!!!🎉😂❤.
TANK YOU APOLLO TEAM CANADA 🇨🇦 .🇱🇺.
AN UNMATCHED WORLD CLASS 🌎 ESCOOTER.😊
8 months later do you still recommend it?
Yes I do especially if you get that crazy 1200$ off
Awesome to hear positive things on it :)
I purchased it and then realized that most people on reddit hate Apollo because of their older models issues, which made me consider refunding my indiegogo purchase
Plus they seem to have improved their QC? Idk, I haven't seen any reddit complain about new models, I currently own a City 2023 and it's going strong still after 300km, I hope this new QC will be the same for the Pro
Also i've read countless comments from people on the escooter subreddit whine about the price but yeah I agree with them, $5000 cad is very overpriced but imo the pre order price I paid for was just right so its whatever to me idc
also to be honest, one of my top reasons I went for this one is because of the GPS and anti theft features
a shame that no one has reviewed these yet, I really want to know if its overpriced/hyped garbage or not hmmm
Over priced by $500. Great Scooter as on now.
Where can I buy this
Apollo scooters website
4 flats Apollo explorer 2020 within 330 km…. I sold it at loss
Next time either those airless tires Honeycomb, or tubeless , preferably a company that I loves you to the mall, visuals sideways without removing the wheel, like inokim
🍎-O pro
Your Velcro band depressing the orange button concerns me.
That button needs a hefty push on it, that velcro band won't do it. Thanks for sharing
I consider 500 km as almost new. My scooter is 3 times cheaper and it done over 10000 miles in 2 years. That’s the real test.
wow
4k for a electric scooter.
$4k scooter, and you had issues with the stem ... No, thanks !
Don't be retarded, watch and understand the video, this was a beta unit.
That’s a clown comment, watch the video
@floridayachtbroker-jimross5768 Your a fool ... 🤣🤣🤣... unfortunately, I did
Tes vidéos sont mieux en français
J’ai vu que tu as participé à un meet d’electric scooters, est ce qu’il y’a un groupe Facebook/Reddit de meet/propriétaires à Montréal?
Il y a le groupe R/apolloscooters
feeling that Qc accent lol , tes de quelle coin mec ? 1er apollo pro ici ?!
Ouest de Montréal
@@vwbora26 ah j'aurais adorer la voir en vrai avan de la commander apres l'hiver , on est a quebec avec une gt2/p100 si jamais tu vien explorer ici on a dans les plus belles/longues piste ciclable en amerique du nord , tu me feras signe si jamais ! tention a toi et bonne ride 🤟😎