Can Pot Help Opioid Users Get Clean? | WEEDIQUETTE
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- Krishna visits an unaccredited detox facility in the backwoods of Maine, where former addicts are trying to get current addicts clean by smoking and eating massive amounts of weed.
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#drugs #weed #vice - Zábava
Former combat medic. Ptsd, depression, anxiety. Heroin addict now 8 years clean. MARIJUANA SAVED MY LIFE AND KEEPS ME CLEAN EVERYDAY.
do you still use cannabis daily to or was that only when u were still trying to quit heroin?
Exactly brother ❤
Good for you brother.
How can you be clean if you're now taking Marijuana everyday
@@jethroabel4802better than HEROIN
Until you’ve experienced the effects of opioid addiction you can’t knock or judge what a recovering addict does to stay away from opioids 😇
Exactly
Weed does nothing to get you off or keep you off.
-experienced heroin addict
From one drug to another but you think your clean 🤦♂️
Amen to that@@tylersays-
X Norco, Vicodone addict and weed made it worse for me.
Mushrooms did wonders in my life. Over the course of my life, I've suffered from uncontrollable, depression, anxiety, alcohol, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for a long time and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. This is something that really needs to be used globally to help people with similar health challenges. I've been sober for 6 years and have my life back.
Congrats on your recovery. Most people don't realize that psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source? I have suffered from years of addiction, anxiety, and severe ptsd, thinking I got my panic attacks under control, they've come back with a vengeance, and I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't. It's absolutely crippling me, I'm in Switzerland and it is hard to get a reliable source here. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
My heart goes out to anyone struggling with addiction. May God give you the strength of a thousand men to fight the battle.
pot isthe best
But what about the God that let them get addicted??
I’m very proud of Bo, he’s got that look in his eyes that says he actually wants to be clean.
Damn skippy. There's a clear difference in those that want to get clean vs those that dont (but say they do)
This is old af.
Sad to say Bo lives in my area and he's far from Clean
this documentary is nearly 9 years old, i looked into it though, and his instagram was active as of 2022, so id say hes doing well
pot isthe best
I'm a current addict, and hearing that Harvard doctor say "it makes sense to me, too, and I wish them well" meant a lot. That's humility to say *my profession obviously doesn't have the answer, so I'm all for anybody trying essentially ANYTHING, because anything is better than the situation we've currently got."
Money. American Pharma and medical treatment are driven by profit. They want to have the monopoly on treatment, even if it's not truly effective at curing people. They can patent their synthetic made substances. Curing people in their system isn't truly optimal because it ultimately entails losing customers. Cannabis is a natural plant provided by the earth. It can't be patented and controlled.
I was addicted to heroin for ten years. I finally said f- it to abstinence based programs and just did what I thought was best for me. I told myself that I could use as much cannabis as I wanted to get through that first year or so. I smoked all day everyday. I also processed my traumas (turns out my childhood was pretty bad but it took me a long time to understand that because it looked normal on the outside), started meditating, eating healthy, and working out. Gradually, the cannabis use began to taper off. I’m three years out now and mostly just use a little bit of cannabis in the evening. I just don’t need as much anymore. Dr. Ramani on CZcams helped me process my trauma. Authors Gabor Mate and Maia Szalavitz helped me better understand substance use disorder from a compassionate, medical, and scientific lens. Hope that helps. Best of luck to you. Wish someone had told me a long time ago that nothing was fundamentally wrong with my brain and that I had every reason in the world to feel the way I did, so I want to tell you the same thing. Addiction is not a life-sentence. You are not destined to struggle forever. Your brain can rewire and make new connections. You got this. Rooting for you.
I live in a med state so I lean heavily on cannabis and that's it
Try meth it’s help me in my sex life and has done magical work for my dreams state. Eccentric circumstances contribute zero
So true anything are better than this
Massively War like Epidemic in the USA Everywhere
Canna RSO and so on is A Good gaven Givt to Humans
Pharmacy
Evil Drug's
Evil Terror. Are Not God given
God love's Us All
Iam addicted too... Wish you All Strange All the Best
Tace care
May God Bless us All
Amen 🙏
Former Fentanyl addict. I'm 64 days clean and I'm completely sober. No Suboxone, marijuana, etc. God as i understand him and the 12 steps of A.A. saved my life. I know the struggle. No judgement. Whatever works for you! I love you and you got this!
This program is being misused in india 🇮🇳
God Bless you. Love you. One day at a time says everything
Keep on trying mate I was on the brown for years and it's a nightmare I couldn't imagine if fentanyl made it's way to england.you can do it ❤
Heck yeah brother im around the same days clean and my
Lifes changing and nonmore bad influences
@@fortune.9738 explain pls
Cannabis is an EXIT, not a gateway!!! This is a great example on why cannabis education is SO important!
I love the work they are doing and I hope they’re able to keep it up for years to come. ❤
I was on crack, heroin and methadone for 24 years. I got fed up of programs failing for me. So I decided to do it all myself. I stopped everything but the methadone. I was on 90 ml. Tapered it down to 1 ml over about a year. I took 1 ml for two weeks then stopped. I had zero withdrawal. Been clean about 10 years now.
thank you for this, i 've been weening but wasn't sure if it'll actually work, you've given me some hope and motivation
@@Dominicn123 24 years was a long time. I didn’t like myself any more. That was my motivation. A hobby also helps. Metal Detecting gave me a focus. Over the last ten years I’ve become famous world wide in that hobby. CZcams famous at least lol. Not that I do it for that. I’m just saying it worked for me and there’s life beyond methadone prescriptions. I had bad withdrawals from time to time so I know how bad they can be. Forcing myself to take that 1 tiny ml each day for a couple of weeks I do believe was key. You can do it and I wish You all the luck you need.
I’m with you on the slow taper and the hobby, surfing, climbing, skiing, and running for me. Started slow though with the exercise. AA on top of that. Nowhere else you can get free therapy and clear steps to a shame free life. You have to bounce around to find the right group like you would with a therapist. Coming up on 4 years
@@Dominicn123 me too... almost off but still unsure.
don't wanna have to do coldturey again.. its.... beyond horrible.
I wish you both well
and everyone else suffering
I did too, after being on methadone around 20 years. I recently stopped at 3 mgs. and didn't feel any withdrawal. I've been off it since December.
Years ago, I hurt my back at work and went on worker's comp. I had a doctor who told me, "Do you need anything? I can give you anything you want." I always said no, because I knew too many people who were prescribed opiates and were addicted, besides, I didn't like how they made me feel. I had him prescribe me the biggest Motrins he could. I would go to the office to get my prescription every month and the waiting room was packed, plus a line out the door, with addicts waiting for their scripts. When I went to my comp hearings, the comp insurance stopped paying me because the IME's said I was malingering because I wasn't taking opiates. I must not be in that much pain if I'm only taking Motrins. The judge asked why I wasn't taking them and I told her why. She said, "That's good enough for me," and ordered them to keep paying me.
God bless that judge. And big respect, that is some strong willpower!
My Goodness. An issurance should help you, not sell you to the Devil!
That’s crazy. It’s almost like your insurance wanted you to take opiates. They just wanted to keep making money off you. Craaaazy.
Good judge. 👍
Taking motrin like that leads to stomach ulcers.
Been clean off crack for over 15 years due to cannabis. It took smoking weed to make me realize just how stupid I was being smoking crack. I had forgotten how good it felt to just be stoned. I used to always drink alcohol and that was what lead me to crack as I always made the worst decisions when drunk or under the influence of alcohol.
This one time i didn't have enough money to buy a 40oz of malt liquor before smoking crack, but I had some weed and since I couldn't gather enough change to get any alcohol. I just smoked some weed first and it was while high that I had this moment of realization of just how stupid I was being and how i was really fixing to throw my life away and mess everything up for good. I didn't smoke the crack I had bought that day.
I cut it up in small piece s and sold it to the crack head across the street from where I was living at the time ( Not the most ethical thing to do ) but I had to get rid of the crack so I wouldn't even be tempted to smoke it and from that day on I only smoked weed and been clean off crack since October 18th 2008. Now I don't even smoke weed all the time. I can take it or leave it, but have no desire to ever go back to crack. So happy I'm still clean from that. You can say ( oh, you're just replacing one drug for another ) but there is a BIG difference between weed and crack same with weed and opiates. Weed is a much milder drug and while it can be habit forming. I have never stolen for weed.
pot isthe best
I'm not a pill or dope addict but I was a alcoholic. I'm about 3 years Californian Sober. Marijuana helped so much from anything really. I'm focused on building my car back up, I'm working normally, paying fines and whatnot as I should. As much as people say oh your just a pothead but in reality Idc I'm living better and happier without drinking 🙏🏾
You're an addict. You hate being sober. It's okay. There are lots of us.
@@tylersays- whatever makes you sleep at night
@@CheechElMexicano ots fine that you are ... but let's call it what it is, right?
I guess since I eat pizza every other day, I'm a addict. But knowing how smart you are, you'll call me a fat ass right?
@@tylersays- your uncle touched you didn't he. It's ok it's not gay to like dudes. You were like that to begin with.
5 months on Friday ive been clean from fentanyl/crack cocaine!!! Im on the sublocade 💉 & marijuana throughout the day, and i have never felt better
good job
Before you know it, it will be five years. 6 years for me in November. Oh.. Cheers, and well done.
@@reidellis1988Congratulations! ❤
Your brains been hijacked for ever , your mind isn't free as it used to be. I ain't taking the mick
Congratulations but please know the side effects of long term beupinorphine use. It can damage your heart.
I’m a methadone patient who uses cannabis daily. I recovered and came back from the street shooting speedballs daily. I now have a job, savings, investments, a fiancée and good relationship with my children. I will always be an addict and alcoholic. I went to AA for years too and haven’t drank for 20 years. Opiates were harder to quit than liquor.
Same here bro. Currently on MMT. And cannabis HELPS. It helps with cravings and has helped me taper down to my current dose of 28mg.
@@klsanchezI'm currently on a taper myself. Started at 85 mg now at 5o mg. 🌲 help me every day
@@mazeratifox7208 I’m on the sublocate shot…. It is the magic drug 🙏🏻 without marijuana & my subs, it would have been pretty much next to impossible to get off fentanyl pills
Me2 bro wasn't speedballing on the daily. Just was shooting a gram shot every time. Sometimes I'd put some meth n it tho. Anyway been on methadone Goin on 9 years. This summer I'm going to move to suboxone. Cuz i wanna quit using it all. But weed sure does help
I'm currently tapering as well can't wait to be off that stuff .... and 🌲definitely helped alot
ABSOLUTELY! Been clean 17 years of opiods. Smoke everyday + am so grateful!
32 years sober, and cannabis saved my life after starting it when I had 27 years.
I have worked in addictions and this medicine is a god send.
Nothing that made me better can be found in a hospital, and everything that nearly killed me, including the pharmaceutical business can be.
I love seeing all these comments of people recovering and dealing with this together. We are outcast, discounted because of "our choices" and when we choose the least harmful of our options, we are still put in a class. But we aren't a class, we are people, with stories and life experience different from everyone else. It hurts how some others will cut off communication based on their bias on cannabis users, further alienating people that might take something from or might need a conversation. Much love❤❤❤
that’s my problem with rehab and NA. they look down upon marijuana users, when weed saves lives.
Me too I love all the love and encouragement here!! ❤❤❤. This is great! This is what we as a society need! Now more than ever possibly.
You don't need people like that around you anyway.
Much love to you too bro
Right , and Joe rogan says don’t read the comments lol , love joe btw
2 years sober after a 30 year drinking career. Weed helped immensely. Living in Holland with our coffeeshops is a blessing
That's awesome man good job. Alcohol withdrawal sounds like absolute hell even with the meds they give you to detox.
Ahh jealous! Holland is so beautiful, I really want to visit Amsterdam one day!
Also very very proud of you. Had a family member that was an alcoholic and he’s finally sober.
pot is the best
pot isthe best
Weed is the reason I’m still clean off dope.. been away from H since 2017 I’m grateful to still be here and be breathing today.. weed is what saved my life 🙏🏼
Solid content. This not only hits that algorithm bite, but it’s also incredibly informative.
Honestly, cannabis brought me out of a very very dark place. I remember that one evening. I smoked, I listened to music, and stared at myself for hours in the mirror. And I cried. I laughed. I talked to myself. And ever since then… genuinely. I’m a better human. I’m not perfect, but I’m better. I think there was a lot of unconscious introspection that was unlocked via cannabis. I get sick to my stomach thinking about who I was. I wasn’t violent, but I was vile. I had such… distaste for everyone and everything. I wasn’t well. To this day I will forever remember my cannabis night. That changed me. For the better.
when i was using i couldn't smoke pot. every time i would get high i'd have really bad anxiety because all i could focus on was how terrible i was living, how i needed to inject myself with this plastic tube upwards of 7x a day just to feel "normal" and how i destroyed all my personal relationships over a powder pressed into tablets.
i've been clean and sober since 2013-14, i don't smoke ciggies, i don't drink alcohol but i do smoke the ganja everyday once i'm done my daily workout. *without any of the anxiety and racing thoughts i used to have*
see, *i think the weed was "training" my brain so to speak, it forced it to confront the realities i was trying to escape from whenever i'd get high while still using opiates* because i'm no longer living that way or doing the things i was doing, marijuana and me are good, but if something in my life isn't right or isn't going how its supposed to be *the blessed herb lets me know ASAP!*
*God made weed, man made speed ... Who, do you trust?*
Wow that’s really interesting!, I use marijuana frequently but I had the EXACT same experiences with LSD! It would make me be honest with myself and scared tf outta me cause it makes everything so clear. Crazy how different brain chemistries could have the same effect with different substances
I agree
This happened to me once after getting high for the first time in a long time. Had the worst panic attack bc I couldn’t help but to think about how much i had fucked my life up
Me too, Since about 15 years now (when I was ¬25 years old) my experience of THC started to change from a mellow/enjoyable experience to an instant anxiety attack (high heart rate, unable to sleep). The attacks presented me with feelings of uselessness and made me constantly think about everything I had done wrong in my life and what a sorry state I was in. Definitely not a fun experience, once or twice I actually became suicidal after taken even one small toke from someone's joint at a party and had to leave immediately to home to be alone and try to sleep or think about positive feelings, without much success. I did find that listening to mt favorite music had a positive effect on it as it kept my mind from the negative emotions and as we all know, music sounds awesome on THC.
I have learned that a few tablets of Valium (diazepam) reverses these effects and makes the experience more mellow/enjoyable like smoking weed before I was 25 years old...
@@Offdogshitselfthis is exactly what i would be afraid of. During withdrawals, my heart would race at like 140/bpm. Add weed (which always gave me anxiety) and I would probably have a heart attack or stroke. This video looked terrifying.
Counselor/Methadone and medic nual cannabis user here. Beau did himself a massive disservice by dropping from 50 milligrams to nothing. He can continue to taper one milligram at a time if he wanted to. He had take home bottles therefore he wasn't going daily and he could keep using cannabis while tapering his methadone. Fifty milligrams is a lot to just drop off from and he went through immense withdrawal unnecessarily, potentially increasing his chances for relapse. I was up to 110 at one point and am doing a taper as well. I'm down to 65 and plan another 5mg drop in a couple weeks. I hope everything works out for Beau, as someone who was using heroin for more than half the time they've been alive I fully comprehend the insidious nature of this disease. Massive changes need to be made and maintained on a daily basis. Addicts with sustained recovery are some of the most insightful people due to the fact that they've been forced to delve into the bullshit that contributed to their addiction.
Been tapering subsnfor 2 Yeats would.never just stop where im.at now even though I get why someone would want to. My life is so different than it was in active addiction. I'm 6 years clean and kicking subs feels like the last peice
Been tapering of methadone for 5 years. Was at 120 mg and could only drop 1 mg a week. Then when I got to around 65 mg I had to go to 1 mg every two weeks. I got to 7mg and hit a massive wall and had to go back up a bit. (15mg) The older you get the harder it is coming off methadone. I smoke weed everyday and find it intensifies withdrawal symptoms when going through it. If it works for others great.
I fell down a rabbit hole when I tried to research tapering off drugs lol such a lack of knowledge, data, or research on this topic smh.. seems there has never been an actionable plan to stop any meds! lmao they want us to be lifetime customers.. the pharmaceutical companies have created numerous crises for which they will never be held accountable.. the massive overprescribing of psych meds also gets overlooked! our meds are no good, illicit drugs have all been tainted, and the foods of the earth meant to heal us have been poisoned by forever chemicals, plus whatever tf going on w the dwindling water supply 😱😱
God Bless America 🇺🇸
also: it should be noted,
compassion is key ❤
for successful recovery! 😇🙏
I'm down to 2 mgs from 120mg...been on it since 1999. It took me 2yrs to get down to that by tapering
@@jasonsmither805 that's awesome. Been slow going this time for me. The first time I was on the program in my twenties, I was able to drop 5mg a week no problem but I'm almost 50 now and it's unreal how much slower it is. Congrats on your progress!!✌️
Coming from a current opiod addict, if your withdrawing smoking weed is one of WORST ways to coupe with that withdrawal. Anxiety & for some reason the withdrawals go through the roof. This is MY PERSONAL experience as everyone is different.... to everyone who is hooked on pills, i hope we can get out of this mess one day.... 🙏
Spot on mate. If you're rattling off gear withdrawal weed does yer head in.
It's nice to smoke weed when your clean or after using opiates but not to withdraw.
This video is worth so much more credit than anyones realises. It started in my 20s.. I suffer badly from EDS and muscle degeneration. My joints all dislocate daily. Pain is unbearable. Put me on oxy 10 year ago and just upped and upped dose until i barely recognised myself anymore. I BEGGED my gp to give me morphine instaead as its less than half the strength. Now I've been cutting it down myself and just struggle with the
pain, marijuana helps immensely. Im so fed up of being treat like a junkie when its the proffesionals put you on it for money sakes. I quit the booze 13year in november so i know i have the will power. The pharmaceutical companies have so much blood on their hands .😢 thankyou so much for sharing this video ❤ wegot this guy's.
my mom used to shoot when i was a kid. back then i didn’t know how bad that kind of drug was and i couldn’t fathom how my mom was able to get clean without major withdrawals. the turning point for her was when we lost our house. she had spent most of our money on drugs and because of that she couldn’t afford rehab. she’s a single mom of two kids and is a lot better now. she put me through college, my brothers in a private school, and she’s clean. and it’s all thanks to weed. she quit cold turkey, no doctors, just weed, a lot of weed. but she’s so much better now. and even with weed, sometimes one 10 mg edible she can’t even handle now lol. just thought i’d share my story because my life wouldn’t be what it would be now if it weren’t for marijuana.
It'd not thanks to weed. Your mom hit her rock bottom and finally decided enough was enough. I've quit myself ...9 years ago. If anybody gave my credit for quiting to weed, I'd be offended.
@@tylersays- yes i should’ve worded it differently. i mean it as like the withdrawals weren’t as bad as they would have been if it weren’t for weed. my mom has admitted to me that without it she would have relapsed. but u r right. it was all my mom bc at the end of the day even with the weed she could have easily asked for something else instead
I think she would made it even without weed...Weed doesn't help the body and mainly the mind, to combat the cravings for the drug .In spme cases its worse because weed makes you think a lot..
I was a fent user for years, I tried getting clean 3 times until it finally worked. 6 months later I found a fent pill while cleaning my car and thought to myself, I’ll save this until my Suboxone wears off, and then I smoked some weed a few hours later and thought to myself, wtf am I thinking saving that poison for later? And I tossed it. I have ADHD and believe it or not, weed makes me think clearly and act less impulsively
People say weed makes u paranoid, I think it just makes u more aware
Try sticking with flower or oil or products in general then that are Sativa. Limonene, one of the most abundant terpenes in most flowers, but usually is not so much in Indica if any, but Limonene has the same or similar effects on the brain the same way ADHD medication works to tell people “wtf is my impulsive brain thinking” like you mentioned. And if you say use Limonene heavy Sativa Only Strains with ADHD meds, and actually HAVE ADHD, it works incredibly. My suggestion tho could be considered a new drug haha. Ill use my adderall capsule, take half out usually so I’ll be on 10 mg most days when i do use it, but XR, and then i put RSO Oil (AVEXIA brand G Purps at the moment) as i noticed Indica hybrids though the right ones with RSO SPECIFICALLY can make an entire difference on my entire day due to the strength and length of rso. But i start by squirting two lines from a dablicator which measures the doses, and i think only hits 115 max at the max dose twist, then it stops and you just repeat the process but its a great cut off method for dosing correctly. But anyway, i put the 2 lines and even sometimes three into the XR capsule which by nature is a very slowly releasing capsule anyway, so the stomach issues or GERD or diarrahea and all these things eating RSO RAW LIKE THEY SHOW HERE! It works instantly, but its WAY more effective being swallowed orally, especially in a capsule, youll save yourself multiple doses.
Weed also helps to balance my multiple thoughts and minds. People who think one way or in limited ways will never understand people who have multiple minds and thoughts. Weed was a god send for me in learning how to navigate the various parts of my mind.
wow this is amazing- finally a rehab that might actually work long term. Bravo Dennis, we've been waiting for this...
I’m from Madison ME witch is a small town very close too Harmony.. former addict been clean for 4 year’s. Thank you for shining some light on the problem in Maine
Clean , not clean whatever ... If pot is keeping me away from opiates , allows me to hold a steady job, keeps me from isolation from my friends and family and makes me a better person then what or how I was previously, you can call me anything you want. Not sober, not clean ect. It doesn't matter cause if that's whats helping or helped me crawl back from throwing my life away I'm good with it
I'm happy for you! ❤️
I feel like taking 250 mg of edibles while you're in withdrawal would not be fun.. anxiety would be through the roof
You just go to sleep. It's a relief. And yeah, it's strong. But so was the dope.
the whole point of weed / thc is to be calm and feeling better . if u get anxiety ur smoking the wrong weed
Exactly, hu dreds of people a day go to the ER thanks to the paranoia THC produces
@@dk420xKratom is a better alternative
@@dk420x lol have you ever been in hardcore opiate withdrawals? The anxiety and depression you feel is crippling. I guess though with 250mg you might not get the chance to have anxiety bc a lot of ppl it will just knock you out and help get some sleep
I used to help my friends get through rough Patches by what we call the marijuana maintenance program. Smoke, eat, sleep...😊
“It makes sense to me too.”
Hearing the Harvard educated doctor say that is a powerful statement
pot isthe best
i tried coming off benzos with weed and ended up addicted to pills more cuz i combined the two and it was twice as amazing 😭😭
Benzos are a whole different monster
😭😭😭
pot isthe best
Well that's why they do it in a controlled manner, like they provide the weed at specific times, make sure he doesn't have opiates on him. It's more to counter the withdrawal symptoms I think
You should make the same documentary about Kratom! But also how addictive Kratom can become. Quitting Kratom is no joke, but it can absolutely help people get away from Heroin or other potent opiates
Quitting kratom is not that bad compared to heroin let's be honest. Weed can also help alot with kratom withdrawals, more so tha. It helps with traditional opiates.
@@sigarland2002 Kratom is a joke. Especially how ppl market it. It is just as bad as opiates for some. It definitely shouldn’t be marketed as a solution to come off of opiates.
Kratom is a godsend, but be careful about trading one thing for another, it's VERY easy to do. Use Kratom for 3-7 days to ride out the toughest parts of withdrawal, incorporate exercise into it, you'll make it out.
The BOREDOM is the worst part, and weed certainly helps with that and sleep.
Helped me to get away from opioids but now I'm trying to get rid of this plant material for 3 years. But all in all, I feel better than on the pills
There is one that Vice made. It’s about Kratom helping heroin users.
czcams.com/video/QKCPoSw-BOo/video.htmlsi=IvpaYcENyEiArser
I watched this and I’m so fkn happy to see people are trying to find a alternative to the heavy stuff that has taken so many of my friends since hi school
Really good video I loved it ❤
too bad im on probation 😞 still fighting this addiction it’s the hardest battle ive ever fought in my entire life
I was an Oxycontin addict following bowel surgery which left me hospitalised for 3 weeks. I was addicted before I left the hospital. Before I quit I was on 40mg twice a day and 35ml of oxycodone per day.
I used Cannabis Oil, I knew how to make it from old, back when my Mom was dying with Chemotherapy. I started with half gram oil but it was too much. So I reduced that a little to quart gram. I reduced my dose by 5mg per week and 1ml of liquid until I was completely clean. The oil was a major factor in my recovery.
I did all this on my own with Cannabis Oil. I've never felt better..
Good luck to anyone who's about to embark on their journey to sobriety and keep going all those who stay opioid free..
I was addicted to opioids/benzos for a few years. I went to a traditional rehab, they preached 12 steps and complete abstinence. The idea that addiction to one substance = addiction to all is heavily pushed in places like that. I went to 1 meeting after returning home, and that confirmed they weren’t for me. So I went back to my roots & started using cannabis as a form of harm reduction. I’ve been clean from hard drugs since. I have a steady job & income, I barely have cravings. I don’t think it’s for every recovering addict. But if you work to develop a healthy relationship with weed. It can be a very helpful tool to reach & maintain sobriety :)
ive been trying to find this for the longest time to show my friend. i remember seeing it years ago originally uploaded
This is the best documentary, I love the presenter, well made!
Props on him doing a dab
My best friend beat a 30 year opioid addiction using cannabis. I could not be more proud of him.
You’re a great friend. I beat a ten year heroin addiction using cannabis and my friend told me I was half-assing my recovery. She’s not my friend anymore. Clearly she never really was.
The weed was your friend @@Askalott
Wow crazy to see Dennis Hammac here, I was a caregiver in Maine and we were friends like 10 years ago. He's rough around the edges but tries to help people. Glad to see he's still doing it.
pot isthe best
Beautiful piece. Great journalism
Amazing Episode , Thanks for Sharing this Vice!
I was a heroin/opiate addict for 12 years before I got on methadone (which I didn't want to do but glad I did). I smoked pot all through my taper and after when it gets tricky. My Dr offered comfort medications but I didn't want another addiction to contend with. I just celebrated 2 years clean. I still and will always smoke though.
If you are in addiction, get help. You CAN do this!! I believe in you!!! 💙💙💙
Theres no secret trick!! You have to want it!
Kratom !!!!
Exactly 💯
@@lile4life713 that stuff is just as bad as heroin 😂😂😂😂 the more you know!
@@CuddlesNCassyLmfaooo I have had 8 heart surgeries dead twice .off of ops due to kratom now I’m off everything I don’t wanna hear it lol
@@CuddlesNCassyworse even. Opoids helped me get off of the Marijuana’s thank god!
I couldn't stop crying long enough to watch this right, this is so awesome
The single greatest act of self love I've ever completed, was getting sober. I still smoke weed but nothing else. Almost 12 years of Quality time I've had. To anyone who needs this, you're not alone, you're not broken. You ARE WORTH IT!!!!!!
Been clean from Fentanyl & heroin for about seven months now, thanks to Suboxone. I also smoke buds, been smoking since the 2000s. Yeah it helps, but it's not a miracle thing
How long were you on fentanyl? Was it patches or street? You don't have to answer of course. I have been on patches for 23 years.
I heard suboxone gets addicting after a few weeks
But what doses were you taking? Because 95% of people who take the doses they were giving this person would just knock out and sleep. Sleep in itself in relief. NOTHING will fully take away WDs, but you should always strive to make it as easy as possible. And taking a substance that will put you to sleep, while also easing the sharp pains, is a great alternative if you have tried everything else. Much respect for getting clean though! No matter how you do it, its not an easy journey, so its great to see someone on the otherside of it.
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My friend tried to quit cold turkey and died 3 or 4 days later he was 37. I'm positive it was from the withdrawal cuz he was living in my basement at the time
I was clean for 11 years the normal 12 step way. I've had multiple back surgeries and feared ever getting another one bc of the opioids. Back went out in 2022 and I writhed for 2 weeks until I finally decided to "break my sobriety" and start smoking weed to manage my pain. I stayed off opioids and still smoke marijuana 2 years later. I still consider myself clean. I don' use opioids, drink, etc bc I know I am an addict but this has made it so I can live my life, work, etc. If I never touch another opioid again I will die a happy man. Also, remember when they called it a gateway drug, looks like its a way back out for some too.
A gate is 2 way after all
I never smoked weed until about two years ago.Now I don’t drink and have been clean from coke for two years. Now I work in the cannabis industry and am trying to get back on track.
Great job on this! Very interesting
Bo keep staying strong. I know it's hard man. But I know you live for the struggle because when the reporter said you look excited while you were packing knowing how terrible your withdrawls from the opiods would be he said you look excited and through the excited smile across your face you say yeah knowing the challenge ahead. One love brother.
I truly felt bad for the guy getting off methodone
Seriously, dropping off at 54mg has to be legit hell for months
There was no reason for that. He should have tapered all the way down to 1 mg.
I'm at 135mg now and my clinic will at most drop you 4mg a month at the most.. they would never allow you to just stop at 50mgs unless you just stopped coming. That's inhumane..
@@digler7686 I have heard of people stepping down like a mg a week, or even like 1/2 mg a day, or a mg every couple of days. It is uncomfortable for sure though.
I love this. I’m an extractor myself, I would love to wash hash for these folks. Truly doing gods work
Awesome truly Brother hope all is well and that you help folks as well in any type of way you know ((: hard to find or even get Clean Sauce or Hash oil Etc.. ://
Weed gave me anxiety while detoxing from opiates. I actually quit both at the same time because of it. Almost five years for me!! In general replacing a drug with a drug doesn't end well for most people. But if it works long term for some, I say its great.
Anxiety could have been unrelated, such as a magnesium deficiency, but even then just look at the guy in the video! he most definitely doesn't look too happy--and that's because like you said you were also detoxing. It helped you more than it did hurt though.
@@bmar916 considering it got 100 times worse after smoking weed I’m pretty positive it was from the weed. It increased the pains in my legs as well.
Yea. Dont substitute one addiction with another. It will make things worst.
@@MrRavenArrowz anti-depressants are technically addictive due to their withdrawal effects, are you saying for someone not to take their medicine if it works for them and they rely on it? same thing here...
@@MrRavenArrowz Not how that works
I have tried this more times than I wish an being stoned with withdrawal is horrible
THIS. It makes the anxiety SO much worse if you get a Sativa. For SWIM, it only helped at night when SWIM couldn't sleep and the opiates were gone.
That's my experience as well, made things worse rather than better.
try high doses of cbd. like 150-200. i thought it was a scam. but i tried it and it felt like taking a sedative. i felt heavy, brain just stopped racing . i get anxiety over anything and this took it away. now my wife takes it , my mom takes it, and i take it.
@@thedrewdog The law doesnt care if you admit that you took drugs no need to use that ridiculous acronym lol
That is why they were giving he people MASSIVE doses. Because at those doses you just fall asleep. Being asleep is relief within itself. You are never going to fully eliminate WD's. But you should strive to limit those in the best way possible. Yeah if they smoke a joint in the middle of WD I could see the anxiety making it worse. But they were taking insane amounts of THC, that would simply knock out 95% of people who take it. And it must have been okay for this particular guy, since he has been off opiates for 10 weeks by time this was uploaded.
vice be like "we've lost all our money, bring out the weed docs"
chronic relapser 10 rehabs never more then 6mo
First time getting clean with shrooms and weed only
2.5 years now
It sure can. Works better than NA meetings and is healthier than methadone and Suboxone
Long term use is not recommend
Are you stupid?
What about the smoke in your lungs
5 years clean, NA saved my life.
@@katrinaloheide7116 Glad to hear it. I never got into NA myself. Some of the most judgemental people I've ever met. I haven't touched heroin since 2009 and was looked down upon and had people say my time is coming because of marijuana and an occasional drink. That isn't true for everyone. I saw people get key tags while they're on Suboxone and methadone.
I am currently using medical grade cannabis to try and come off a 11 year tramadol addiction
good luck. you got this buddy! i believe in you.
There is no try. Just put on your big boy pants and get it done ffs.
Youre doing great, keep going!
@dauntae24 lol easier said than done . I'm on my own path and will achieve my goals in my own time. Nothing will change this ✌️ but thank you for your positive words 🙏 😊
@@overwatch8848 Thanks 😊
I got clean 2 years ago tapered to 1/8 of suboxone and cold turkey after that totally worth getting my life back.
love to see people helping people. That is what life is all about. Keep up the good work!!!
I've been off heroin/fentanyl/meth for the past 15 months... I'm in the methadone program I got up to 45mg and IL down to 15 mg, dropping to 10 next week and then I'm gonna ride out on that for a bit I'm not in a rush to get off methadone... it saved my life... I would of been homeless or dead by now without methadone... saved my life 110%
weed does nothing for my opiate withdrawal, I wish it did
Yeah it helps with certain things like sleep and nausea but can make other things worse
it makes it worse actually
Definitely varies drastically from person to person, pharmacology is a complex thing and although I support anything that works, it's frustrating to see the people who think everybody simply responds the same to everything. No one size fits all solution unfortunately, just not how medicine works.
You really have to take high doses for it to help. At least me.
it only helps if ure baseline with methadone, then it will help
the idea of replacing opiates with marijuana shouldnt ever be considered, as much as I love this community they have no clue on what they are suggesting sometimes but I swear they do it out of kindness
Happy for Bo, man. ♥️
way back 2020 I have suffering depression and my friend recommend me weed and now I survived suicidal thoughts
YES I’m a year clean from opiates granted iam taking suboxone but after I’m done weening off weed curves my craving like no other pill or med out there. And if you were wondering I’m coming off 13 years of 40mg oxy hydros you name it. WEED WORKS 🤗
Literally same. Lol
i quit cocaine on my own. never would have succeeded without pot!
Now you're addicted to pot. 👏😂
Don't stay on those suboxones for too long, I did , can't get off them now .
That's good 😊 mashAllah, you doing very well keep it up 👍😊
I am a heroin addict.
Clean & productive for 12 years. It's called "Marijuana maintenance" program and its.helped many addicts stay clean.
Still addicted to weed tho
@@D0GG7ST7LEliterally man it’s gotta be an all or nothing thing
Have you tried mushrooms?
@@D0GG7ST7LE which, like, won't kill you slowly like any opioid will. Also, quitting weed has extremely mild withdrawal symptoms compared to opioids. I call that harm reduction.
So good to see my brother Dennis..
So good do see this on CZcams
So good to see freedom field
15;58 ‘I wish them well ' that was really nice of Him. At this point we should try anything or everything to stop this menace. From a guy in Rural India. 🇮🇳
Weed definitely helps, but you have to keep smoking it to keep feeling it's affects. 3 grams of magic mushrooms is what led me to beat alcohol, opiate addiction, as well as heal from childhood trauma. 7 months ago I was reborn and have been experiencing the world through sober eyes. Never has the world looked so delightful.
I used to grow mushrooms. How can they help with opiate withdrawals ?
@@Chillin-fpv Metaphorically, if your brain is a ski slope, your whole life is a series of taking different paths down the slope. Eventually, those slopes become indented and its more difficult for us to choose another path, for example, addiction. Taking mushrooms is like a fresh snow falling on your brain, it re-awakens your neural pathways. A lot of people myself included have experiences where they wake up the next day and they feel a renewed sense of motivation to do better for yourself. It helps your brain process a lot of years of information/pain/trauma. Not exactly the most scientific explanation, Mushrooms can also cause really adverse reactions from person to person, but its generally mental. I suffered a psychosis once from psilocybin... But its changed my life net positive! You can also do some research on microdosing! Microdosing is just as effective and you can avoid the trip if you dont want to trip.
@Chillin-fpv they don't help with withdrawal though lol
@Animal-Reaction-Clips lol yeah I thought so
3g one dose?
Yes. It can.
Thank you and goodnight.
It has helped me. I’m going on 10yrs now of only using hemp products. I am even trying to start a small hemp business that will only have stuff that I’ve personally tried and has helped. I have over 3/4 of a million dollars of metal in my neck c3-c6 is all metal. I also have a few other body parts that are metal as well. It’s not easy everyday but these hemp products have helped me finally be able to just function.
Struggling off and on...on and off opoiod addict here. Many tears sober at one point. Got addicted thru big pharma. Fetynal destroyed Mt life and almost killed me too many times to count. Cannabis is a life saver. I cried watching this.
Excellent content and prospective. Thank you 😊
i dont agree, i dont get why people are supporting that child being around this. like literally smoking next to the child wtf is wrong with people
Yes. i used rso Rick Simpson Oil to wean off meds. Simple. I have rare movement disorder and so switched to alternative meds to try and get quality of life back.
Tried everything to get cleaned up including an expensive rehab. I wish this was around when i was getting clean i would have loved to go this route. I got clean and smoke lots of weed still. It fills the gap of the wannt and need to get high. But also helps my anxiety, body pain, overall mind enhancement. My only troubles ive had has been when i drink. The legal drug. But as long as i stay away from alcohol i can stay straight.
Absolutely. It’s a great sub.
And tbh…. I’m a vet with chronic ptsd, and often consumed cannabis around opioid and other drugs as well. I would partake in a little soft white, but eventually I realize I should only be using would helps me not what makes me feel good or makes me want to be enjoy a certain feeling…..
I learned cannabis is really the only thing I need, and if anything is the safest thing to indulge in……
I advocate these facts around my friends who use both opioids and snow ❄️ and they’ve come around to feel the same way…
I don’t use anything other than cannabis now.
They practice the same habits thankfully but of course they use the other stuff maybe 2-3 a year.
But legalization in America was definitely the smarter move we’ve made recently…..
Either that or we can go back to arguing about how taxes, insurance, and irs don’t help enough and demand more money than they give out or compensate.
Or the VA still failing vets and how I still don’t have any benefits approved by the VA…. And there’s many like me.
I was addicted for over 10 years..I think weed passes the time by when detoxing but you will still want to feel better and may relapse. So maybe if you don't have a phone or contact with outside world you can beat it
The isolation is a great point. I hope people going through this DIY program are given tools and counseling that assist them in the transition back to normal life. But personally I think their mission to help keep these folks alive and give them an alternative is great. I agree, though, that it's almost certainly not for everyone.
I was a raging heroin addict with almost 9 years clean in June! I don't understand how users will say that they still want to use after years of clean time, like seeing it will make them go crazy and want it so much!! Since getting clean I've had heroin in my face and it turned my stomach just the thought of others doing it in front of me! So I believe with the actual desire to want to stop and enough time, the whole thought process on the matter will be completely different
i disagree. i have ten years clean and i would be tempted to pick up if it were in front of me. the desire never fully goes away (for me)
@@boosqueezy2418 I definitely feel that I've had friends that told me the same. I guess it's a matter of willpower and coping mechanisms.
Oh cool.A high horse
Great documentary. Love these informative video's
bo's enthusiasm to get clean is something i wish more people had. if pot works, why not switch? it can't kill the user like opiods. i'm hopeful he stays clean and is able to be in his childrens lives. it's all about getting back up again when you fall. it's an effort he will have to make for the rest of his life, but one that is worth it
Weed heightens the withdrawls trust me 😅
Exactly. Unless it's a pure indica or a strain with low THC high CBD, it will make certain parts of withdrawing worse
yes it does
Yes, it almost killed me. I believe.
Didn’t help with the hallucinations
You shouldn’t take weed when you have hallucinations.
That will make things worse
Some friends of mine had to see a psychiatrist after long term use
Was that Tony Bennett from the show Down East Dickering at the beginning of this?
I had a friend insinuate I was half-assing my recovery (after a 10-year heroin addiction) because I was using cannabis in moderation. We’re not friends anymore. I have zero tolerance for anyone who questions or delegitimizes my recovery. What matters is that I’m happy and healthy. I don’t care about ridiculous purity tests. Abstinence based programs only delayed my recovery and nearly cost me my life. I’ve developed many other coping mechanisms that don’t involve substances, but cannabis is just another tool in my toolbox to ease my CPTSD, autism, and chronic pain.
The biggest reason marijuana is a gateway drug is : when kids and young adults realized pot wasn’t the crazy dangerous drug they were taught it was, they figured that was true with other drugs as well. I wonder how many people would never have tried harder drugs of weed had never been made illegal
Listen, weed wasn't a gateway drug for me. At five years old I was told I had adhd autism, and they prescribed me drugs like ritalin adderall so many pills. I made the switch to cannabis and it saved my life. I've been using it here in NJ legally for 2 years.
Pills came out after voting
Cannabis came out before voting and it's been used medicinally for thousands of years. I'm 18 and I feel mentally clear and I eat very healthy organic food everyday.
Who voted for big pharma?
omg this is random but i use to have the same ramona profile pic as you: i agree though it can be a gateway for a lot of people
I been saying this for years and happy to see someone else knows it too.
...and the winner is...KRATOM
Kratom wasn’t great. For me anyway.
Kratom withdrawal is terrible. Not hard to research and read the horror stories of kratom addiction.
Yassssss!!! 💯🙌
@@danny208YTpeople say that about everyting, though...incusing weed
Used to watch your videos while watching them sobet is a blessing
Imagine just havin this hyper chill teddy bear feed you dabs while helpin you get off dope. Im sold
I know from personal experience that accountability and willpower work better than weed.
Ever think off both?
Youre gonna relapse
@@Son.of.Saturn I’ve been clean for 17 years. 😂
@@dauntae24 then don't hate on other people who don't want to take the "I'm a man and can raw dog this, look at me!" approach... sorry bro but I'd rather be medicated and happy instead of the detriments of stress, let alone the anti-inflammatory and anti-cancer effects of cannabinoids.
90 days in jail will get anybody clean on anything. Duh
Yeah man, there definitely arent any drugs in prison 😂
@@Abwaham He said jail, not prison. There aren't as many drugs in jail
@bajorekjon Yes, and there definitely arent any drugs in jail either. Plus, if 90 days in jail were enough to get people clean from drug addiction, there wouldnt be a problem. But it doesnt, because it isnt.
For 90 days…. Until their free after dreaming of using every day. And it’s not their fault it’s addiction
@@AbwahamIt's enough to get people clean, not really keeping them clean once they get out. I've been to jail it's basically impossible to get any drug besides medication
I'm glad u ask the questions u do bro🙋🏼♀️🤘💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💙
That's so awesome this big dude is helpin these ppl its amazing we need more detox's
It can but kratom is better working 😂 don’t say I didn’t tell you
Kratom is way better. The only problem is that it can be just as addicting as any other opiate, and it's easy to abuse
@@bajorekjonI've been through cold turkey heroin withdrawal... I've been through kratom cold turkey withdrawal... comparing withdrawals is like comparing a shotgun to a bbgun. Heroin withdrawal is 100x worse in every way.
Kratom is the best stepping stone for quiting smack.
Great idea giving them another drug 🤦🏽♂️. Weed is a drug people dont be fooled
Yea bud, weed is a big bag drug, thanks for the reminder ranger dan.
Krishna your reporting is so awesome!
I tried many times, and all's pot did for me during withdrawals was intensify them. More anxiety and more in my head during intense withdrawals was not good... And to be clear I smoked for 15 years of my life beforehand, and love and endorse cannabis 100%
Using THC is the opposite of being clean. The video title is... strange. I get that marijuana use isn't stigmatized like it used to be but the title of the video is a massive stretch.
People are delusional to what being clean means. People will take suboxone, pills, and smoke weed all day and think they're clean
Nobody died from weed dude its harmless compared to alcohol even
That's what I was thinking. You're not clean by any means when you're smoking every day. Not even when it's cigarettes.
I agree it’s just replacing one drug for another.. now while I believe you’re 100% better off smoking weed than using opiates the goal should be to ultimately be substance free
@@digitalntwk12even if you stay on pot forever is that not 100x better than being on opiates forever and risking your life everyday?????