I spectated a CHEATING Echo in a Top 500 Overwatch 2 Lobby
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-Call out a Cheater
-Refuses to draw
-Loses
-Refuses to elaborate
-Leave
It's so copium on their part it's hilarious.
I was half expecting them to be like "Draw! Draw!" When they were losing
Lol
he didn’t lose wasnt he on flats’ team?
Dude who double crossed on the draw was definetly the kid who called time out in freeze tag when he was about to get tagged
I DON'T LIKE THIS GAME
@@linuskobal are u the dude who took back the draw then?
@@linuskobal I WASNT PLAYING
@@Cameron_7127 you missed the joke
“Yeah I want to draw”
*caps point*
“Actually let’s just play”
mercy: "don't turn those cheats off, crank them to 11"
Well... How do you draw if the other team had 3 points? They needed to cap all points. On the third and fourth rounds, both teams should've waited until the time ran out
@@drzalchicha because the game doesn't have a surrender option like CSGO, so most of the time when there is a cheater, both teams play 2 rounds each on attack/defend and cap all the way. It makes the game consider it a draw. It gives you little sr, but it doesn't take away any like a loss does. Good for both teams because they don't get penalized for losing/winning in unfair circumstances.
I wish OW did have a surrender option for when you have 2+ leavers in Comp though :/
@@mcpuggynuggiesIt’s been a long time since I played competitive, doesn’t it give you like a 30-second timer after somebody leaves the game before you can quit without it counting?
@@Dash123456789Brawl it's 2 full minutes now
When they took back that draw, Flat's face said a million words.
He was absolutely incensed.
just 6, "Well, I guess you'll die, now."
He became Ramattra, ready to fist everyone
Wow this echo was cheating I cannot believe this😡🤬. Wait echo is in the damage class right!? So is Genji, we need to nerf Genji
Finally, the only logical person in this comment section
I was worried about how no one was talking abt how op Genji is
Maybe they'll actually get around to buffing Sojourn too
Waiting for them to give Hog his big buff where he kills you by simply existing.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696she doesn't deserve any buffs, her basekit is too powerful with them.
The best part is how the prediction is often worse than normal aim because it looks at some AD strafing and assumes they’re gonna keep running in a straight line so constantly shoots way outside their strafe
Yeah I'm pretty sure good projectile aimbot is impossible. Being a scumbag, however, is not.
@@aguyontheinternet8436 I've seen some TF2 projectile aimbots that were pretty fucked up. Never really seen any insane ones in OW for some reason
@@aBlackMage it’s prolly cause tf2 and ow strafe are very very different. not to mention how much smaller a lot of ow hitboxes are in comparison to tf2 agents
Yup, it just looks at velocity and direction, they're never gonna be smart enough to be like "oh they're just AD strafing so just aim somewhere in the middle"
No aimbot can predict a person’s decision making so it’ll miss if they move erratically. It kind of makes me wonder if that’s the point of aimbotting with a projectile character vs a hit scan, you’ll miss more shots and if they watch death cam they won’t see you locked onto their head the whole time so less people will think you’re suspicious
You never notice how much you miss videos spectating cheaters (or bronze) until they come back.
I hope he makes more 😭
Miss em so much
He actually did one on stream the other day, should be on CZcams soon
The guys who took back the draw are about to be patient zero for the new guilty by association of cheater system. Thanks for donating your account to science.
How, exactly? It was the echo on Flats' team that was cheating, not theirs.
Nah, they'll probably be alright. If you look, the cheater is actually on Seagull and Flats's team. The guys who took back the draw were just making weird choices since they said they were on alt accounts.
they’re facing the cheater? if they don’t care and want to play a real game then let them
@@Axoe no fuck them. Unless the majority of the team is onboard and wanna continue the match, its just poor sportsmanship to not join a draw - or worse, take back their proposal for a draw.
no the cheater was on flats team not their team
The enemy team really said "They're garbage even with the cheats" and decided to keep playing
because he was trying to get a point for free
I’m not gonna lie, that cheater looked so much worse than any top 500 I’ve ever seen lol
probably because the aimbot was throwing off his aim just as much as it was helping
Because cheaters are mostly noobs with very low skill, and I am not saying this to degrade them, it's actually true. They don't have patience or dedication, they just want wins without putting any effort. His positioning, his decisions, game awareness, understanding win and lose conditions are unironically on a bronze-silver level, this is why gms can easily spot hackers, because just by having great aim you wouldn't climb to top 500.
because aiming projectiles is just as much about games sense as it is about mechanics, even with 100% accurate predictions, you also have to take into account peoples behaviour when they are being shot at by a projectile hero, a machine can't do that because it doesn't understand people who are being shot at will actively try to not be hit.
thats cause people who cheat are bad... people who "can compete and win" dont just pussy out and download cheats to "git good"
OP bronzie 5 opinion because boosted youtuber got stomped by him.
took me to the end of the video to realize its the friendly echo who was cheating, not the enemy echo
they said their name in the chat 💀?
@@Jupiter-Jazz maybe he shut his brain off
dude.
I concur:
dude....
Nah cause same
guys he's not hacking. he just has a better echo body pillow than us
Lol
In his defense he had his gaming sock's on
Not to forget his Bluetooth gaming chair.
After seeing that clip at the beginning of him shooting at the Mercy and Tracer I no longer feel bad about my inability to hit those heroes as Echo. If a cheater can't kill them then of course I can't 😂
There is something smart about cheating as a projectile hero - people are a lot less suspicious about a projectile hero cheating compared to hitscans.
People just assume that if you're not pointing and clicking on something you can't possibly cheat.
Are you kidding, no, it makes sense for a hitscan player to hit their shots if they're not an acorn, but for projectile characters to be that accurate is an insanely high skill ceiling, and most people cannot compete with those who are that good through skill. The way it hard locked onto that Mercy was enough.
@@nuclearsimian3281 From a suspicion perspective a lot of people forget projectile aimbots even exist. And as we can see, they're way less effective than a hits an aimbot. Like they said at the end, it's usually very subtle. The cheater missed enough shots that unless I died to one of the especially suspect shots I wouldn't think he's cheating.
because projectile aimbot SUCKS
idk if smart is the right word lol
I love when they take the point and decline the draw, they completely accept the cheater on their team and tell him to go wild, because at least he isn't as much of a douche as the enemy sojourn.
12:00 the spectating starts.
Thanks
godsend
Hero
Yeah but 11 mins of context is kinda important.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 11mins of gameplay can be summarized, or edited and shortened. We came here to spectate the cheater as the title says.
Still can't get over the guy who said "crank it up". That bad that he gets insulted even with hacks on lmfao
I find it hilarious how he can land the Sym projectiles on the Echo and Mercy from serious range but can't hit the Sojourn when they're practically barrel stuffing her
I hope they reported the guy on their team that took back the draw when they all knew the other guy was cheating. Actual braindead decision making skills
I agree calling for a draw and then taking it back after capping or making progress is a dick move, but also it's worth noting the cheater was on Flat's team. So it's entirely up to the enemy team if they want to play it out knowing their playing into a cheater. If the whole team agreed then imo it's not as big a deal as it would be if say, half wanted a draw and the others were playing it out.
uh no lmao the cheater wasnt on that guys team
@@blakeverdon4492 The enemy team really said "They're garbage even with the cheats" and decided to keep playing
@@Jupiter-Jazz there... I edited the comment so it'll be easier to understand
@@blakeverdon4492 the thing is only one guy over there was like "can we just play?" And everyone else had to just go along with it or get farmed because he already said it multiple times. Nobody else over there asked for them to keep playing but the one guy on the opposite team
To be fair if I was gonna allow a draw to be a good sportsman and then the enemy team took advantage of it to try and win, I would definitely tell the cheater to crank that shit up
Concept: Force Draw. Its a setting in the menu and it only happens if like two or three people of each team select it
Or they could just impliment an anti cheat
Well that wouldn’t work. First off you could get friend groups who separate and do similar things as trying to get into a death match together to completely ruin games if they are losing. “So make it so friends can’t do that” what happens if the 3rd vote is someone who happens to be friends with an enemy member which is more common in higher ranks.
Now we know why Flats doesn't want ram ult to be nerfed
What I'm confused about is why were they doing this in a streamer game?
Like you'd think if you're smart enough to cheat you'd be smart enough to not *blatently* use them in a streamer lobby???
Maybe they didnt know? I played overwatch for a WHILE before I started seeing and watching streamers/youtubers play the game
Cheaters arent really smart. If they were theyd know how sad cheats are.
I've seen instances where the cheaters just kind of forget they're playing with streamers.
@@Jello-ri you’d think Players in GM would be aware of streamers
@@mobaisi13 ja it was just a quick Idea I threw out. I dunno why else the cheater would cheat in this Match then :^]
The mercy damage boosting the guy the whole time 💀💀💀
I played with this guy in my diamond games and actually thought he was really good. Fooled me.
6:09 that was almost a whole minute of ramatra ult
He should've just took the draw lmao
At 20:52 he's shooting at Hog when his aim bot suddenly tracks off onto the echo. 100% proof of cheating right there.
It’s like I’m watching gameplay for Metroid Prime with how hard the Echo is locking on to everyone
Flats goes beast mode after they take the draw back!🤯🤯🤯💯
Hes not cheating, he saw Samito's Exho guide
200 hours in aim labs
Funniest shit about the projectile aimbot is that it's hella counterable, if you just LR strafe they're like all gonna miss you, just like when fighting against enemies in videogames with predictive shooting
"lets draw!".... "NVM lets not!" *They proceed to lose* guess they shoulda taken that draw lololol
I like how these projectile aim bots can't beat AD spamming
He's literally a bronze player in top 500.
The cheater?
Say something if you want, just know you got mad over two harmless words
@@_playa_ no flats... of course I mean the cheater
Which should indicate how necessary game sense actually is. You can literally reach the very top of the game exclusively by clicking heads.
@@burkhardt7694 bro you people just need to be so unnecessary huh? Especially with a pfp like that wth
@@_playa_ you have the awareness of a bronze 5 player if you thought he was talking about anything but the cheater.
It was waaay more obvious the cheating on sym. He was definitely toggling. Sometimes he was beaming it would lock onto enemies behind who he was trying to shoot who were out of range and it would pull his crosshairs (20:52). Also the one frames peeks from behind walls
That's about the single inexorable point of evidence he's cheating. Obviously no human in the process of attacking one thing immediately and inexplicably begins tracking another thing that had only become apparent in that instant. There's no mental decision making there, only code.
I spectated myself being happy another one of these appeared.
Nothing beats Winston auto aim
Someone out there probably still has to have aim bot to use him 🤣
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@@briangreenfield311 I always thought that the absolute most hilarious thing someone should do in top 500, is play Soldier, and turn on assisted aimbot whenever they ult.
How long would it take for someone to actually report them because they don't appreciate the joke? xP
@@Falonefal this is actually impactfull now that soldier can hit headshots in his ult. So a real aimbot would still be unfair.
@@stevenwier1783 you can configure an aimbot to hit only body shots and even be accurate only a percentage of the time to make you seem more legit
I went up against a sigma that was cheating dude was hitting every shot and it was zipping straight to people's heads through walls on the killcams until people came out of cover . People he never seen once had 0 clue were there , just locked on before you've even entered his sightline
That loss was entirely brought on by themselves. Imagine taking 2 massive Ls in quick succession, first by double crossed, then by losing
It looked like they only had the projectile aimbot on, so the Sym beam was getting thrown off by not tracking but trying to lead when it was effectively "hitscan".
Les go, new Flats video!
It’s the “I’ve got content” for me
5:16 I had to look up Ramattra's ult because damn that was forever. Apparently it now lasts 3-20 seconds (depending on how many enemies are in radius), instead of pausing entirely like it did here.
Honestly once you’re at top 500 cheaters don’t have as much impact unless it’s certain characters on certain maps like a widow on junkertown defense or something like that. I understand why no one does it anymore
Without second tank cheaters are more impactful than ever
ThEy GoTtA wIn TeH gAmE!!!!!!!111112
@@Sachock I feel like that’s a lot more at lower ranks but in the video it was pretty close and mainly came down to tank role as the deciding factor
@@Sachock in lower ranks sure but in top 500 nah
The range activated cheats probably helps with keeping accuracy lower.
I hope the people that disrespected the draw think it was worth somehow being the butt of a video that features a cheater.
They 100% were already hyped up thinking they had advantage when you see the time. They should have immediately shot down the offer to draw, it was scummy.
4:04 that Kiriko was toxic as hell and I am SO here for it
I've seen a lot of people in QP with somewhat similar aim and I always suspected cheats but wasn't quite sure. I mean first off, none were blatantly locking like this, mostly saw it with Tracer players where even in the most hectic fights it was impossible to get out of their fov - like they just had a tracker that automatically steered their view whenever you got close to the fov edge on their screen in close range fights (sub 3 meter range). Not locking with the crosshairs at all, but just always maintaining their target in focus under the most leg-breaking moves. I think they might have been simply testing out the cheats in quickplay to set up for comp, so without the aim lock part enabled but just the camera control. And yes, it looked incredibly artificial and nonhuman camera tracking.
If you watch enough of these hacker hunts you start to pick up on things. It's more likely that people will have walls on and their aimbot turned down, because the aimbot is more likely to get caught.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 in these hacker hunts they're often super obvious though. It's the ones that are borderline "this could just be an insane T500 player" but then you start questioning that thought process when you encounter just a tad too many players with such abilities. My mmr is high so it's not that I'm not used to gm mechanics, and I keep up just fine myself and have been called a cheater too, so it can be tough to tell. It's only when it seems a little too artificial and odd yet super consistent that lines get blurred. Haven't met anyone in OW2 who cranked up the cheats. A fair share in OW1 tho who I frequently reported and they got banned during a certain Hanzo projectile cheat era.
Camera control is the one inescapable positive of a cheat. The top players can track-track really freaking well-but no one keeps a target at the centre of the screen through all microscopic movements.
i love that perfect sub animation at 15:00
Yayyy new Flats upload!!!
My favoriate flats videos. Exposing cheaters
they really need a "call cheater timeout button" that will pause the game and kick a blizzard mod to come ban them. but limit it to like gm and t500 so its not abused
It's definitely obvious when echgo beams the bridge for 2 seconds after tracer dashes away and there was 0 attempt to move or correct the aim as if they expected their aim to be on target
two mercy pocketed rams + ram copy is an absolute nightmare
it took me till capping 2nd point to realize the cheater was on your guys team
Yo hot take tho ramattras primordial skin is better then his posiden skin
Facts
Watch 19:54 at .07 times speed and you'll see so many fishy things, he locks onto a bunch of characters behind walls and keeps trying to shoot them.
If they pulled that on me I'd just go "Alright Echo, crank it up then we trying"
13:57 "Get down Mr. President!"
Ngl this echo was doing so much air that I didn’t even notice that it was flats’ echo until 16:00
"here comes the balanced character" lmao
Wait, does switching forms get rid of the stick bombs from Echo's right click?
I miss when Rammatra's ult just would not end until everyone is dead or out of your radius like Mauga.
That ultimate is ridiculous lol😂
for those that missed it, he pre fired at 15:29
I think that Rammatra ultimate might be powerful.
“Toggling” is what it is better known as
longest ult ever. good lord that needs a limit.
9:59 so no one is gonna talk about this clean transition
Damn didn’t realize, that’s cool as fook
If you can strafe head shot three in a row in and out of cover with syms secondary, you must be a god. why not only use sym?🤣😂
And you could hear the mercy flying, god tier headphones too.
I can tell it's been a long time since I played, because I was like, "Who the fuck is this character he's playing?" 😂
I missed the spectating videos
Pretty sure his name is dydx because that's a notation for derivatives in calculus and the hacks are following their current velocity
So I figured it out, it only does the lock at echo beam range
"They keep turning it off". I feel bad for this guy cause as some one who plays echo, that's what getting 'lucky headshots' looks like. Especially the tracer kill those are fairly common.
That is an INSANE projectile aimbot. Holy sh** lmao.
Rammatra pov be like double it and give it to the next person
AGONY IS GRAPE FLAVORED
I never knew that Overwatch 2 could be WAY more broken than Overwatch 1, Not just glitches but if they expect us to get the new skins they gotta give us a boost on these things
Why haven't I got this map in so long?
That ram ult on point 3 attack lasted about 43 seconds lmfao ram isn't real
ironic how dydx does not use the derivative of the position that the person is moving for the cheats
That was so incredibly stupid from the enemy team.. I don't care if they don't mind losing but they just gave a win to a cheater, that's not ok.
BTW incredible play with ramattra on the last point cap, it's a shame that we know the echo had any part in this though
She prob didn’t do much, also this mentality of “the entire team is to blame if the cheater wins” is just like kindergarten mentality.
Imagine if Echo couldn't duplicate characters if you don't own them.
Don’t give them ideas!!
The fact that echo already gets to control enemy hero changes is bad enough
Echo is my "free dlc" character, just like ginyu in fighterz
The Mercy pocketing the hacker is a bit scummy
It didn’t help much, but pocketing cheaters is a bad move
I recently picked up Sombra, she's alright but honestly I don't think she feels right for the game. IDK maybe she should chuck virus instead of that SMG IDK don't throw tomatoes at me
Dudes Toggling so much lmfao.
cant wait for the dipshits in the comments to comment about mercy pocketing the echo when they literally said "no, lets just play it out"
They really thought they had a chance to win even after everyone acknowledged there was a cheater in the game. It's like why even point it out in the first place?
I don't know how people ever agree on draws. I had a match with two rage hackers against me, shooting through walls and and causing absolute destruction. I offered their team to back up, allow us to 5v2 against two hacker dps, and we could draw, but nobody agreed, even our tank who just kept blaming the support for bad heals and saying that bad heals were causing the game lose. It's hard to convince the enemy for draws when your own tank is an absolute moron.
People are overly thirsty for wins. They don't care if there's 2-3 leavers, someone hacking, or blatant hard throwers (from the days of priority pass). The leavers I understand to an extent, but if you have a blatant thrower, drawing is the best thing you can do because it just wastes their time. Same with drawing vs hackers, every second you waste they will get more and more pissed. It also doesn't help that everyone is paranoid that somebody will be "that guy" who goes off and breaks the draw pact.
that mercy is 100% a duo
Disagree
Absolutely not, they were saying the echo is cheating too. Mercy's job is to pocket dps that's why they were always with the echo.
@@pink_kitty if you're aware of the person is cheating you're just as culpable if your pocketing them.
Even if you're not a duo, you're still acting like it.
cooper isn't a duo w him tf???
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 bruh..
Reports are completely automated and if a bunch of people report you in one game it counts for less.
You can't report replays anymore from what I can tell which is how they got cheaters more frequently before.
So nah you can could cheat basically with without worry in season 1/2 and I guess we'll see what happens in s3. If the non-cheaters they boost get banned too (like he was probably boosting somebody on your team) that might curb it, as people won't readily support cheaters anymore on their old accounts.
They literally just thought the phone requirement would stop it. 🤣
Holy crap ram ult used to be so op
"Bet we could draw"
"Ok but what if we didnt tho"
I love how u guys explain it wont take away elo in a draw and he goes "this an alt so i dont really care." Like obviously you do you dont just wanna "play it out" for no reason.
He clearly wanted to make it seem like he wasnt scumming a win but it just left him randomly insisting they dont draw with a cheater for literally no reason.
Unexpected bronze spectating from a top 500 game lmao
Really wish the mercy wouldn’t speak
as someone who plays Mercy, when you know there is a cheater on ur team do you continue to heal/dmg them ? n Jay3 cheating videos he says to no do that but it feels so awkward? I don't wanna throw the game but I don't wanna healbot a cheater either lmao
I played against a hanzo with this. It was atrocious.
echo even wit cheats was so bad i forgot he was cheating mid vid