The NC wasn't my favourite generation of MX-5...but this Super 225 package is enough to make me want one in a heartbeat. I really hope this is a sales success for BBR because it would be heaven if they would offer an ITB conversion package for the ND2 as well - hopefully the head design of that 181hp engine will have good potential too!
I think BBR GTI should get Keiichi Tsuchiya (aka THE Drift King) over from Japan to drive this car. The ITBs in this NC sounds like his AE86 Sprinter Trueno he canes around the Gunsai Touge for his show 'Hot Version'
Would be awesome to see another Nordschleife track video of yours again! Do you still have the ND? Would be intriguing to hear your thoughts on whether you prefer the ND or NC...
@@joetaka7620 Hi Joe, I have an S550 Ford Mustang V8 manual at the moment, but might get another MX5 in the future. To answer your question, the ND is technically the better car, but the NC with Ohlins was a sweeter drive with more predictable handling, and with the addition of ITBs I think the NC would be my favourite. :-)
@@MikeDasani I found 2 manufacturers that are willing to make itb's for the nd1-2, I tried to post about this but my post was eliminated because the mod said it was against the rules 😒 anyway I know you're in the forum spread the word man there's hope for itb's for the nd1-2.
Vous êtes des génies. Un son bien rageur et cette montée dans les tours volontaire ! Waow, le moteur respire vraiment. J'attaquerai H24 avec un kit comme celui-ci.
when I read 225bhp i thought that was supercharged...N/A?!! with ITB's, presumably a tune and exhaust? Stock it's only 167hp for the 2.0L. A huge increase...
This might just save my NC from getting traded for a Porsche. I grew up with 2-strokes so I just have an insatiable appetite for things that rev high and fast with telepathic throttle response.
I really appreciate BBR for offering the ultimate tuning option for the NC platform, the ITBs. Thank you guys. I reside in S.Korea and am planning to have your 225 kit installed on a NC. Will contact you soon. Is it compatible with a US spec lhd NC? Since my track is a 2hr highway drive away, let me ask you this: In 6th gear doing 60mph, at what rpm would the engine be revving?
This does not affect your gear ratios or final drive ratio, which are what controls your rpm at a given speed. At 60 mph in 6th gear, you should be well under 3k rpm.
@@mitchellsteindler yes, for a Euro spec car, US spec used lower ratio final drives hence you always see quicker 0-100kph/62mph times quoted on US spec cars. They don't tend to use them for longish drives or daily drivers in the US, obviously there will be a few exceptions to that but as a rule of thumb...
@@sonofplato yes...im in the US. 80 mph is about 3700 rpm, so 60 mph is well under 3k. I just got back from a 1000 mi road trip in my NC. Certainly is noisy on the highway, however is still quite efficient (33 mpg on the highway).
@@mitchellsteindler a true 70mph equates to a true 3250rpm ona UK spec 2.0 sport tech, these figures taken via Scangauge rather than the factory dials for accuracy. So not that much difference at all. By simple arithmetic I will be doing 3714rpm @ 80mph, interesting.
Finally, an MX5 that sounds decent, rather than an overly loud and droney mess. Just a shame I bought an NC1, not knowing that it may have a slightly fragile engine compared to the later iterations.
I just picked up my NC1 with Super200 conversion from them today. The car's been with the team for nearly 2 months. Full Engine rebuild, BBR suspension and brakes upgrade. It now produces 212bhp. Neil reckoned that once the braking-in period is done I can have ITB and back box installed to get it to around the 240bhp mark. Having heard what the ITB sounds like, I'm saving up for next spring!
@@HienTQuan Sounds awesome, enjoy it. Good to hear that the NC1 engine can take these upgrades. I'm hoping to install them piece by piece, working through from the 185 kit, to the 200etc. Did they have to do any specific upgrades to the NC1 that they wouldn't have to do for later spec cars? Cheers.
@@GMak81 I originally did the Super200 upgrade last year. Stock engine and it was just their kit. However due too much high revving action and not paying attention to the oil level I had to go with the engine rebuild. Expensive lesson for sure! Just make sure oil is fully topped up regardless of what the useless oil gauge says.
@@HienTQuan Thank you. Sorry to hear you suffered oil starvation. I have just purchased a DaveFab coolant expansion tank to avoid the known plastic tank cracking issue. Next I will get the car undersealed, then I can start on fun mods. Enjoy the car as it progresses with its mods, and thanks for the replies.
There is nothing wrong with the NC1 engine, it has a lighter crank which makes it more revvy, the problem was the oil control rings, if its not drinking oil then don't worry
Your octane ratings are calculated in a different way in the US from UK/Europe. In Europe, the octane rating at the pump is the Research Octane Number (RON) figure. The USA uses an average of the RON and the Motor Octane Number (MON) figures, or the anti-knock index. As a rough guide 97 RON is classed as super unleaded in Britain and roughly equates to a USA equivalent of 91 octane premium. I'd take a stab at your USA 93 octane being equivalent to a 98-99 RON rating so yes, you're fine on the octane.
@@Speedwelltuning BHP is horsepower (HP) measured on an engine dynamometer (aka brake). Worldwide, people who can't afford to use an engine dyno put their cars on a chassis dyno to measure WHP (wheel HP). In the UK we like to pretend you can reliably calculate BHP from WHP. You can't. It's utter nonsense. Engine brakes measure BHP, chassis dynos measure WHP. Chassis dyno operators should give you the measured WHP figure, not the guesstimated BHP.
Yeah but no. Don't get me wrong I love how this car is tuned, sounds, performs. But you're comparing it to a stock s2k. Start tuning that and you'll also have different results.
@@carolusdero6663 You can tune anything to what you desire . An S2000 can be tweaked and an MX-5 could be tweaked on a par..it don't matter . I remember the first Gen Mx-5s with the 1.8L block. That block was shared with the 323GTR Turbo ...the tuning potential it had was phenomenal..Mx-5s in general have massive tuning potential and the amount off aftermarket parts available far exceeds the S2000.
$4300 what the hell? 😂 That's half of what my entire car costs. Just buy a turbo kit at this point jesus! I thought this would be under $3000 without a doubt.
4k for a 40% all motor hp increase is absolutely amazing. A lot of people including myself would never turbo a canyon carver/track car for many reasons.
@@theREELdogman The whole point of going for BBR's ITB package is because it uses the OEM Mazda ECU. Its 100% reversible to stock if you want to sell the car later on. You end spending so much more money and waste so much time fiddling with the car if you go elsewhere for ITB setup
The NC wasn't my favourite generation of MX-5...but this Super 225 package is enough to make me want one in a heartbeat. I really hope this is a sales success for BBR because it would be heaven if they would offer an ITB conversion package for the ND2 as well - hopefully the head design of that 181hp engine will have good potential too!
0:42 the Miata is happy AF with the upgrade
I need some ITB's for my Super 220 ND2 please!!! 😍
The ITB manifold may cost way more than an exhaust system, but damn is it the right way to make the 2.0L MZR sing.
Do the exhaust manifold first its very restrictive
Listen to that, anyone else getting the Escort BDA goosebumps? Dear Santa, I've been a good boy this year and for Christmas I would like a...........
I think BBR GTI should get Keiichi Tsuchiya (aka THE Drift King) over from Japan to drive this car. The ITBs in this NC sounds like his AE86 Sprinter Trueno he canes around the Gunsai Touge for his show 'Hot Version'
Another unique take on delivering pure quality performance from the masters of going faster 😎
This sounds incredible! Hmm, thinking about getting another MK3...
Would be awesome to see another Nordschleife track video of yours again! Do you still have the ND? Would be intriguing to hear your thoughts on whether you prefer the ND or NC...
@@joetaka7620 Hi Joe, I have an S550 Ford Mustang V8 manual at the moment, but might get another MX5 in the future. To answer your question, the ND is technically the better car, but the NC with Ohlins was a sweeter drive with more predictable handling, and with the addition of ITBs I think the NC would be my favourite. :-)
Wow! I love the intake sound.
Goddamn sounds so good! It sounds similar to the 4A-GE and BEAMS 3S-GE.
Not even close imo. The old BPs were much closer
excellent upgrade for my old mx5
I do believe my 2014 Nc Mk3.75 just made a Giftmas wish! Thanks for pointing me in the right
🏎direction💨
I love the sound I have my phone plugged into my truck stereo and that car sounds sweet.
The sound is brilliant 👌
Please please please release for ND - I would have it installed in a heartbeat...
I found 2 manufacturers that are willing to make them!!! If you're interested let me know.
ITB Rulez :)
This is sick, sounds soooo good🤩
Mx5 nd1 225 next please ;)
Head over to the Miata.net forum ND power section, we are trying to get about 10 people for a group buy of a custom itb kit from Hayward Performance.
@@MikeDasani I found 2 manufacturers that are willing to make itb's for the nd1-2, I tried to post about this but my post was eliminated because the mod said it was against the rules 😒 anyway I know you're in the forum spread the word man there's hope for itb's for the nd1-2.
ND ITB package when???
Head over to the Miata.net forum ND power section, we are trying to get about 10 people for a group buy of a custom itb kit from Hayward Performance.
@@MikeDasani hey man I'm down for the group purchase for the itb's kit from hayward performance, where do I sign?
Sounds so good 👍, I might consider this on my track NC
Can you please come to the US? and when is the ND version being released? take my money!
Head over to the Miata.net forum ND power section, we are trying to get about 10 people for a group buy of a custom itb kit from Hayward Performance.
Bbr please do something like this for the gt86. It would be amazing!
🤮
@@jacobwallace7785 ❓❓❓❓❓
Build an itb's kit for the mx5 nd please 🙏
@@twinturboray imma give it a shot.
But first I have to find one in good condition.
Sounds amazing!
Vous êtes des génies.
Un son bien rageur et cette montée dans les tours volontaire ! Waow, le moteur respire vraiment. J'attaquerai H24 avec un kit comme celui-ci.
Spettacolo very good
I need this.
A dream
OOOf, sounds lovely.
Is this package streetable? Where's the air filter?
Few questions, super interested.
-Does it fit LHD cars?
-Does it fit 2.5 swaps?
-Does it fit LHD 2.5 swaps?
Check their website.
Really wishing i got these instead of a 70mm throttle body lol
made my arm hairs stand up
please…..create this package for the ND2 👏
when I read 225bhp i thought that was supercharged...N/A?!! with ITB's, presumably a tune and exhaust? Stock it's only 167hp for the 2.0L. A huge increase...
To answer my own question, kit includes cams
This might just save my NC from getting traded for a Porsche. I grew up with 2-strokes so I just have an insatiable appetite for things that rev high and fast with telepathic throttle response.
Sounds better than a 2.5 swap. Oh wait more power too 🤣🤣🤣
Just noticed...you have to sacrifice your front strut brace...I'll still have it.
I think they did that for the presentation. Says on their site that its compatible with the oem strut brace.
please give us itb for Nd2 soon
NCで4スロがあった！！！！
This is my dream nc build forget forced induction and borderline unusable performance on the road for me this is where its at----that noise wow----😊.
What's the estimated cost of this conversation? Might've found this year's Christmas present to myself 😍
Do it ya big nerd
Please see: bbrgti.com/blogs/news/unlock-the-power-bbr-s-unveils-225bhp-2020-specification-super-225-tuning-package-for-2005-2015-mazda-mx-5-miata-2-0-litre-nc-models
@@BBRGTi_tuning does this kit fit on LHD cars ?
I too am curious about this as the brake booster is on the left side where the ITBs are.
@@BZXT On BBR's website they say it fits !
Is this the 25th Anniversary edition NC?
I didn't hear it bark at what point in the video does it bark! Please provide the time index. Thx.
What should I do to buy in Japan?
Anyone know what wheels they are? Or where I can get some?
eargasm! BRING IT FOR THE ND!! WITH TÜV!! NOW!! xDDD
I really appreciate BBR for offering the ultimate tuning option for the NC platform, the ITBs. Thank you guys.
I reside in S.Korea and am planning to have your 225 kit installed on a NC. Will contact you soon.
Is it compatible with a US spec lhd NC?
Since my track is a 2hr highway drive away, let me ask you this: In 6th gear doing 60mph, at what rpm would the engine be revving?
This does not affect your gear ratios or final drive ratio, which are what controls your rpm at a given speed. At 60 mph in 6th gear, you should be well under 3k rpm.
@@mitchellsteindler yes, for a Euro spec car, US spec used lower ratio final drives hence you always see quicker 0-100kph/62mph times quoted on US spec cars. They don't tend to use them for longish drives or daily drivers in the US, obviously there will be a few exceptions to that but as a rule of thumb...
@@sonofplato yes...im in the US. 80 mph is about 3700 rpm, so 60 mph is well under 3k. I just got back from a 1000 mi road trip in my NC. Certainly is noisy on the highway, however is still quite efficient (33 mpg on the highway).
@@mitchellsteindler a true 70mph equates to a true 3250rpm ona UK spec 2.0 sport tech, these figures taken via Scangauge rather than the factory dials for accuracy. So not that much difference at all. By simple arithmetic I will be doing 3714rpm @ 80mph, interesting.
I need to but these on my MK3 2.5😊😊
Where does the brake booster vacuum line connect to??
Damn. I need this. I worry who would install this in the US. Could my dealership install this?
Flyin Miata have been the USA based distributor for BBR's products. You might want to get in touch with them
Finally, an MX5 that sounds decent, rather than an overly loud and droney mess. Just a shame I bought an NC1, not knowing that it may have a slightly fragile engine compared to the later iterations.
I just picked up my NC1 with Super200 conversion from them today. The car's been with the team for nearly 2 months. Full Engine rebuild, BBR suspension and brakes upgrade. It now produces 212bhp. Neil reckoned that once the braking-in period is done I can have ITB and back box installed to get it to around the 240bhp mark. Having heard what the ITB sounds like, I'm saving up for next spring!
@@HienTQuan Sounds awesome, enjoy it. Good to hear that the NC1 engine can take these upgrades. I'm hoping to install them piece by piece, working through from the 185 kit, to the 200etc.
Did they have to do any specific upgrades to the NC1 that they wouldn't have to do for later spec cars? Cheers.
@@GMak81 I originally did the Super200 upgrade last year. Stock engine and it was just their kit. However due too much high revving action and not paying attention to the oil level I had to go with the engine rebuild. Expensive lesson for sure! Just make sure oil is fully topped up regardless of what the useless oil gauge says.
@@HienTQuan Thank you. Sorry to hear you suffered oil starvation. I have just purchased a DaveFab coolant expansion tank to avoid the known plastic tank cracking issue. Next I will get the car undersealed, then I can start on fun mods. Enjoy the car as it progresses with its mods, and thanks for the replies.
There is nothing wrong with the NC1 engine, it has a lighter crank which makes it more revvy, the problem was the oil control rings, if its not drinking oil then don't worry
Hey, guys do you still sell this kit? is it compatible with the US NC Miata?
🔥🔥🔥
love this, but! Questions: will this run on 93 octane which is best we can get in USA? Will this fit LHD cars?
Your octane ratings are calculated in a different way in the US from UK/Europe. In Europe, the octane rating at the pump is the Research Octane Number (RON) figure. The USA uses an average of the RON and the Motor Octane Number (MON) figures, or the anti-knock index. As a rough guide 97 RON is classed as super unleaded in Britain and roughly equates to a USA equivalent of 91 octane premium. I'd take a stab at your USA 93 octane being equivalent to a 98-99 RON rating so yes, you're fine on the octane.
Hi, with the 1,8 L how much is the gain?
BE TO DRIVE - Auto senza censure c’è il kit super 175 per il 1.8
@@gianlucaordine6158 grazie gianluca
Is there a kit like this for an NA?
Whoa
how do you tune this?
The kit is awesome and the car looks great. What visual mods does it have?
Id love to see this hit 8k rpm reliably. I noted shifting was done at about 7.3k in the video.
Is there a review of this car out?
Specifically with the kit installed?
Don't think I could live with the Itb's as a daily driver, is the fuel economy affected badly by the 225 package?
Solds like an old pinto 😋
If only this wasn’t illegal in Italy 😢
Puoi montare e smontare il kit a tuo piacimento :)
should i get a nc or a na ?
Depends on where you live, how you are going to use it, wether it’s your only car or second and your budget etc
@@burgholte got an nbfl it was amazing a bmw crashed into me its gone now
Shouldn't it be called the BBR Super 224 😉
Is this WHP?
Whp is a stupid term what on Earth do you think bhp refers to??
@@Speedwelltuning BHP is horsepower (HP) measured on an engine dynamometer (aka brake). Worldwide, people who can't afford to use an engine dyno put their cars on a chassis dyno to measure WHP (wheel HP). In the UK we like to pretend you can reliably calculate BHP from WHP. You can't. It's utter nonsense. Engine brakes measure BHP, chassis dynos measure WHP. Chassis dyno operators should give you the measured WHP figure, not the guesstimated BHP.
S2000 beware !!!
Yeah but no. Don't get me wrong I love how this car is tuned, sounds, performs. But you're comparing it to a stock s2k. Start tuning that and you'll also have different results.
@@carolusdero6663 I mean, an FBO S2000 doesn't go above 255ish hp. Although this NC is more than FBO :D
@@carolusdero6663 You can tune anything to what you desire . An S2000 can be tweaked and an MX-5 could be tweaked on a par..it don't matter . I remember the first Gen Mx-5s with the 1.8L block. That block was shared with the 323GTR Turbo ...the tuning potential it had was phenomenal..Mx-5s in general have massive tuning potential and the amount off aftermarket parts available far exceeds the S2000.
Turbo my car for £1000
So? It'll break down more, have poor throttle response, and weigh more. You'll have boost leak problems and heat soak issues. ITBs are just better.
$4300 what the hell? 😂 That's half of what my entire car costs. Just buy a turbo kit at this point jesus! I thought this would be under $3000 without a doubt.
4k for a 40% all motor hp increase is absolutely amazing. A lot of people including myself would never turbo a canyon carver/track car for many reasons.
Turbo... Awful. No comparison
Pft dude just buy the itb and cams then get your own third party exhaust it cuts it almost in half
@@theREELdogman The whole point of going for BBR's ITB package is because it uses the OEM Mazda ECU. Its 100% reversible to stock if you want to sell the car later on. You end spending so much more money and waste so much time fiddling with the car if you go elsewhere for ITB setup