Elden Ring: Is Swift Slash Still Overpowered After The Recent Nerf?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 7. 07. 2024
- Invasions testing out how powerful swift slash is after it was nerfed in the recent patch
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I live in Texas- walked into a store today and no lie, you were on all 3 TVs in the store invading lol All the guys there were huge fans of you man- never thought Iâd see such a thing.
what kind of store was it? that's awesome
@@gamedjinni9543it was a smoke shop lol
that's sick lol, I think I'd get a bit of whiplash if I saw that
my jaw would hit the floor dude thats awesome
thats honestly the coolest thing ever! thanks for sharing that man! I appreciate all kindness the community has shared with me over the years
There are only two types of Fromsoft nerfs
1. "Range on the third hit reduced by 1.5 pixels, added hyper armor to compensate"
2. "Base damage reduced by 97%, added 500 recovery frames, using this skill will now personally alert Miyazaki to come to your house and torsion your testicles."
How they nerfed bloodhound step was fucking tragic. Fp nerf would've been fine, multiple uses having more delay and more fp costs, fine. But bruh, that range nerf was fucking brutal and basically entirely killed the ash of war.
@@IntimacyMNbro bhs is not dead, literally every knowledgeable invader runs bhs soft swap.
BHS nerfed into ground - not even usable to cross swamp areas (which was really practical and now have to trudge through those awful sections of the game)
The new blinkbolt ash may help though
bhs is balanced now, it was insanely broken on release. The only people who have trouble using it after patch were people who used it as a crutch before the patch.
TL;DR: âYes, itâs still overpoweredâ
Imagine getting invaded by Chase but itâs Swift Slash review day
POV:your boss wants to talk to you
"I need you to do something."
-(talking to client? Bigger project?)
"To leave this company"
I remember a similar comment on the moonveil showcase.đ
No skill is what that ash of war shows
condolences to the poor souls fighting a swift slash chase
Condolences to the poor souls fighting a -swift slash- chase
Fixed that for you
â@@Popmycherryyo Real, they wouldn't even stand a chance against bare-fist chase.
â@@Lost1ntheSauc3i mean... im positive someone with st. Trina's torch might stand a chance
You lived long enough to become the villain
2:36 The phantom casually hiding behind the bridge column trying to avoid being killed. đ
âHe canât see me if I donât move.â
@@williamhenning4700 đ€Ł True.
Elden Ring : Is Nanaya's Torch still overpowered after the recent nerf?
Unironically no, the deathblight bug got fixed
If it hits right it can madness almost immediately, so I'd say it's still pretty good
â@@Wraggle3000 if you lock on it hits right, since it tracks
â@@KogasaTatara514but the madness build up is still a lot
â@@KogasaTatara514fake news. Even with max focus I get madness'd twice in a single health bar during duels. It's absurdly broken.
Ye, it's still OP, I think it needs a fundamental overhaul.
(Latency makes it an even bigger chore to play against more-so than other things)
Agreed. You literally either trade into it with good spacing or you're just not doing anything and taking chip. Very easy to be permanently on the back foot.
Guy who sneaked attacked was crouched in the bush next to you, you could see his bubble buff to your left
I don't actually think that was him because the guy DIDN'T have a buff of any sort on (that's easily visible like bubble) when he attacked chase. what I thought was a bubble was actually one of the ghost graves in that area. I THINK the guy was actually mimic veiled cuz no matter how I look I can't see where he was and I could swear I hear the sound of it dissipating before chase gets attacked.
You didnât use it at its full potential after nerf. You can put it on bleed and soft cap arcane, if you hit them with both parts of the ash of war you will almost always proc bleed, which completely negates the poise damage nerf since no amount of poise prevents the bleed flinch. If you count the damage from the bleed proc, plus you run varres mask and lord of bloods exultation instead of the sword insignia, you can also completely negate the damage nerf. Yep, this ash is still absolutely ridiculous and broken.
Ive noticed chase values just straight up physical AR above all else.
Yeah the new weapons didn't get the powerstance status nerf so they all apply status super fast. They also didn't get the poise dmg buff but that doesn't matter when you bleed/frost in 1-2 hits.
Funny how the highest damage potential on this setup is also the safest. Something is clearly broken if there is not a single downside. Imo it has too much range, damage, status buildup, and too little recovery time.
i summoned some invader named eat my nuts thinking iâm hot shit and bro bleed me in every hit of the ash, it would miss me and still build up bleed too from the after slashes so opđȘ
I think chase's build being unoptimized for damage is the point. Even when you aren't using bleed or frost buildup, swift slash is still op in comparison to other reasonably powerful ashes.
That ash is fundamentally broken, a simple damage nerf was barely a slap on the wrist
â@@Laxcaden it's a crutch my guy 1v3s were possible prepatch and they still are without skill slash
â@@Laxcadenhard disagree with your opinion. Hardcore pvp players will probably get uses to it but your average player will not. It has way to much of an advantage with little to no downside.
Needs poise damage neef(again), reduced poise, more recovery time, less buildup, and more stamina cost.
They should make it parryable lmao
@@Laxcaden if you want to chase down the kill just use the running light attacks on the backhand blades. you literally keep moving after the attack ends. it's the single best chase tool in the game
you are literally relying on this skill as a crutch to solve a problem the weapon class itself has a built-in solution for. there's no excuse
His videos is my daily things before going to sleep lately, wouldn't have it any other way. This guy just enjoys his life way too much
Same!
Formal petition for Chase to become the finger enforcer using the finger weapons.
Try finger but hole
Honestly Blind Spot is more OP now, I-Frame dodge like BHS with an attack afterwards, which is also Pierce Damage to make it do even more damage since it's so fast it will hit the enemy while they're still attacking you
they're both still completely busted.
You also need a modicem of skill to use blind spot, ran into someone spamming it and they landed 3 of the 8 attacks they tried
â@@ferro9926 no you don't literally watched someone use his forehead to press L2 to win a duel using blinspot
I swear someone was literally trying to fight tooth and nail to say blindspot is balanced. I'm thinking to myself have you played the game
@@ALUCARDTWILLIGHT that's more telling of how shit their opponent was lol
The sniper balls in the fissure makes me feel like I have my own little spam wizard in the back
Ansbach's Longbow next, it`s been a while since chasethebow
i love that thing so much i pray they dont nerf the only good bow
@@exq884 It will 100 percent get nerfed it's fundamentally not working as intended. They will probably nerf it to a point where it will be like every other bow in the game tbh which are all pretty damn bad.
I hope it gets nerfed so bad, mfrs will see a fanning projectile that is guaranteed to hit for 8 arrows worth of damage and say it's fine, bro if you wanna play a low skill projectile spammer make an int build
â@@leonardo9259 lol cry harder kid.
Igon Harpoon or bow and shout in fake rage most of the video. "HOOOOOOOST I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN GANK, WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS!"
"That was wholesome,
for us. đ"
-ChasetheBro 2024
Imagine you finally get a chance to fight Chase and it's swift slash day...
You may try the Lizard Greatsword, It's a Claymore with a ranged heavy.
Really wishes that there were more backhand blades man. Thereâs only 3 in total and two of them are fucking discs. Same with light greatswordâŠ
I hope that whatever From makes next in the Souls vein starts with all these new weapon categories. I'd love to play with some new weapons in a first playthrough
Velvet sword of st Trina should've been a light greatsword instead of a near-identical copy of the regular trina sword
Havent watched the video yet and I already know itâs about to be a blood bath
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That guy went and stood in the cornerđ
The short answer is yes, itâs still OP
I was the invader at 18 mins in! Iâve been watching you for years and decided to do my first invasions that day, didnât even realize my swift slash savior was my favorite ER player. Was surreal hearing you say my name haha. Glad I made it to a video! Cheers Chase!
the death knight twin axes are quite fun with their unique ash, they lack hyper armor between the blink and spin but ironjar may solve that? the ash also procs multihit talismans and can do some substantial damage. Would be a neat build to see! maybe some form of "dash" build with revenger's blade, swift strike, and blinkbolt?
Nice idea for the iron jar!
Oof pair that with the non-existent running r1 recovery frame is terrifying
definitely the most OP pvp weapon to be released in Elden Ring (pre-nerf)
Yeah it was ridiculous. It still needs a rework or something.
And post nerf
Even considering that Moonveil used to one-shot?
Meh, we had the Glintstone Pebble Ash of War that true combo'd and did like 2700 damage in PvP on a well optimised build.
@@lharsay yes because you can dodge moonveil
oh how I long for DS3-style multiplayer, wish it was in this game
No covenants and 4 player limit btw
4 player limit will kill the multiplayer in the long run, I think.
I can't wait for you to try the Gazing Finger in one of your videos. Just found it yesterday and it's so much fun!
Chase, love the vids! Iâd love to see how your wizard build has evolved with the new spells added! Next vid on that maybe???
So the answer is yes..
In my opinion the best way to balance an ash of war is by changing the FP consumption, i feel like you only should be able to use it 3 times if your mind level is 15-17 with the pre patch damage or something lower than that a bit. Because if they nerfed it to the ground nobodyâs going to use it but if they increase the consumption itâs not going to be useless but more expensive to use so itâs going to be balanced
Honestly thatâs a pretty solid idea.
With it's spammability, it should take more stamina rather than fp and I think that you recover far too fast from the ash because nobody can even land an attack on you if you use it
@@fadifarris4594 the same thing can be said about the damn glintstone magic shard. Itâs easily spammable, tracks well and does crazy high damage. People pick 1 thing and complain about it meanwhile tons of other things go untouched/unnoticed like the new thorn spell
This kind of nerf only affects âmetaâ level ranges though (125-150) when people are point pinching to reach soft caps. For players higher than 150 that nerf wouldnât actually do anything since people wouldnât have to skimp on mind.
@@fadifarris4594 yh totally agree u cant catch the user
Hoping you look into The Poison Flower Blooms Twice. Poison can get three attack buffs now thanks to the new poison hand weapon. Not sure ifvthey all stack but the aow is really strong. Just gotta hope the latency doesn't let the other players roll through the poison burst proc.
Nothing that does that much damage & range should be that spammable & unreactable at close range. Fundamentally broken & makes revengers blade feel honest
The first couple invasions had Chase just walk up to each opponent and kill them almost instantly. I'd say the skill is still busted.
The third group fought competently, but all Chase had to do was spam Swift Slash and there was no way to counter it.
Best part of my day when chase posts love the videos bro đ
Your vids are like therapy Chase. Every time Iâm bored or just wanna watch something your vids always come in clutch đ thanks bro
Very nice vid chase, this ash is going strong especially on a bleed archane build it procs bleed so fast.
This ash is so fkin foul tarnished...
Look forward to your daily uploads greatly brothechase. Ty for the good content â€ïž
Dmg was actually super low. 600 including slash and vacume is an underperformer. But general evasiveness and online punish window lag still makes it very good for that alone.
Thats 600 after Bro's normal consumable stacks. FYI raw dmg would be even worse.
Still completely broken tho
It can be countered using the death axes ash of war. Just saw Lost do it in his recent video.
Why is the ash of war art dude for this one cheeked?????
Bro look up wing stance the cake was being served in spades this dlc
He works out the glutes for optimal dashing.
dueling shield counters swift slash pretty well
I found the perfect counter to swift slash spammers, Starscourge Greatswords or Gravitas. Either that or the few that invaded me were just too stupid to dodge the aoe instead of just spamming swift slash because it doesn't have any s and the aoe pull/stagger will make them panic.
Chase will you do some invasions with the Star Lined Sword? I love it in PVE Iâd like to see what you can do with it invading.
Hi Chase! Awesome video as always, bringing back all the painful memories of the invaders whoâd spam this ash of war constantly. Can you perchance do a showcase for Prime Radahns Greatswords đ„Žđ
So my friend tried doing some coliseum duels and he just kept running into swift slash users, so in the patch notes when he saw it was getting nerfed he got excited, then I showed him this video lmao
It would be interesting to see you try to use the stone-sheathed sword. I've only ever seen anyone talk about the sword of light or sword of dark, but stone-sheathed seems like a fairly good sword with square off and actually does strike damage. I've seen no one talk about just using the base stone-sheathed sword.
How do you get so much materials for crafting uplifting perfume and exalted flesh
Can't wait for you to try messmers orb I'm having so much fun with it (:
Try the banished knight halbred tooth whip ash true combo. Add all the posion attack scaling stuff and a weapon with scarlet blooms twice to finish them off, or if poison procks, it'll do just as much damage as the combo
this can be crazy,bro,and great video
Chase I have a request/suggestion!! The Milady with cragblade has an insane two handed charged attack I think you would love. It face trades with just about any weapon and haw amazing stamina use for catching spam rolling! One of the most fun combos I've used in pvp
Bro Chase is the most wholesome and chill content creator
Have you found a good counter to this? Timing is really tight on latency. Wondering if I should just get used to that tight roll window or if there is an easier way.
Duels and invasions!!! Please chase đ„đ„đ„
You should definitely try the claws of night on a multi hit build! The ash works with multi hit talismans, and can stagger casters out of their incantation animations as well
Immaculate invasions today bro đ„
I hope the days of getting ganked by three phantoms with Weeb Slash are over đ€Ł
3 phantoms try all the cheaters I didnât even know you could
Cheat on PlayStation
Been there, being on the bad side of the Vergil special is disgusting.
I had a couple of invasions where all three were spamming swift slash, it was absolutely hilarious. I just ran away, ran all over the map, interfering with their fun by not letting them kill me. Anyone who does that is definitely ganking, so you just have to deny them their ganks. There's no way for an invader to actually win if they stay together, so you have to get creative at ruining their fun.
Until said three gankers start all spamming invaders with this as well. Most dumb ass fucking logic in this thread
â@@AlbinoMutant maybe you can use Ironjar with a greatshield and Messmer Soldier's Great Spear? Haven't tried it myself though
id love to see the cursedblade's cirque the ash on it deadly dance looks amazing.
There's a talisman you get for betraying the hornsent that increases dash attacks. I'm curious if that also stacks with the ash of war
Have you looked at the Horned Warrior Greatsword? Its AoW looks like the Serpent Hunter during the Rykard fight.
Chase why :( this ash of war is below you
lol!
Everything must be showcased eventually đ€Ł
Are you in EldenRingPVP on Reddit by chance???
@@slickblueskin5852 no I am not on Reddit, but I do a lot of pvp
Chasethebro definitely has an arteria leaf plug
He uses cloud save states to just reset a file after he's done invading.
@leebard9335 wow now that's meta
ChaseTheBro can you do a video on the sword lance its my favourite weapon for PvP. I love your videos so much btw
Do you think using bleed infusion on the backhand blades is worth the damage drop off?
imagine the difference between noticing chase is invading your world with swift slash compared to st trinas torch
"Hahah, that was wholesome....*an evil smirk appears* for US."
Never change dude, also test out the Yoda weeb sword.
Whenever me and my friends are screwing around together in ER and get invaded, the first thing we check is if the guy is using a backhand blade. If he is, we immediately assume its swift slash, pull out our own, then all spam it back at them.
Otherwise we just use other weaps.
So many things I've not seen yet; I love all these new toys...
I always wondered this but howd you get 99 of all boluses and stuff to craft them? I really need this for my builds lol
Canât wait for that serpent sword video đ„
Does the ash of war proc multi-hit talismans or the multi-hit cracked tear?
Amazing, something think, which erdtreeblossom you consum xD
I found a true death combo and you inspire me to it. Madding ash of war and the sword of night truecombo you show. Greyrolls roar is a hits everytime , even not chard messmer "rasengan". Thank you to inspire :)
Chase anything looks OP in your hands
Yo chase you should do a video with the Euphoria twinblade! It has a pretty interesting design behind it, and as a plus it looks cool
invading by the sniping orbs and proceeding to use backhand blade AOW may just be the most despicable behavior iâve seen on this channel đ
The 1 time I see chasethebro using the same button constantly
15:31 Chase finally understood the fun of L2 gaming.
brain is on flower power for some reason, so now I want to see builds with either festive grease (apparently increases physical AR a small amount?) and, of course, the mighty flower head itself, which might go well with your nemesis elden stars and that new flower incantation
Hello Chase how are you? How do I watch your stream? I've watched you videos since ds3 and haven't been able to find where you stream from
try this: vennomous fang poison flower blooms twice AoW, poisoned hand in the off hand, poison talisman mushroom crown talisman that improves kicks and divine bird greaves
Duels comming back after the dlc weapon invasions done?
does spear talisman affect square off R2? it seems piercingâŠ
I thought chase was gonna die to that ambush but then i realised "CHASE NEER DIES"
I think the only think that can trade with higher damage is piercing fang, as it can get pretty nutty damage, especially with claymaore
Thiollier's needle? bring tarnished across the lands between the slumber they need.
I love using nanayas torchđ„ and madding hand on my mad knight buildâïž
do you do enough poise damage with it to have the crit dagger on ?
How do you get enough larval tears for all the respecs these videos must require?
So what are your thoughts on Bloodhound Step since 1.10? Are people still using it in PvP?
Lamenters Visage > Nanayas Torch
Trust me its an OP build
i think it would be fun to see you use the radahn greatswords (lord) variant. they have hilarious ash of war built to 1v3
is keen better than bleed? i have 90 dex and 80 arc
Idk if anyone will agree with me on this. While I love getting invaded and have time for it all day. I do not have time for an invader who after attacking decides that he wants to run away expecting me to chase them all the way through the level.
yes it's really annoying. usually its cause they expect their gimmick to one shot like usual but when it gets counter played they have nothing left and run for enemies.
i really wish in the open world, caves/dungeon entrances were like fog walls that the host could enter so you aren't held hostage cause the invader is wasting your time.
Is Nanaya's torch still overpowered after not being changed?
Use ansbachs longbow chase actually a viable bow (besides greatbows)
Power-stance Milady has become my weapon of choice lately, tried to power-stance some great katanas too but they're waaay too slow to be effective