For All Mankind - Pathfinder Space Shuttle Reveal

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  • čas přidán 11. 03. 2021
  • Juxtaposing the reveal of the U.S's next generation shuttle, commanded by this universe's Apollo 15 commander Ed Baldwin, are cuts between that and Danielle Poole, the first African American woman to go to space and the moon. She will put in command of this universe's Apollo-Soyuz joint mission, to propagate peace with the USSR as well as demonstrating the US's progress in regards to race relations.
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Komentáře • 281

  • @ultralaggerREV1
    @ultralaggerREV1 Před 3 lety +361

    U.S Senate, why don’t we just add a few extra zeros in NASA’s budget?

    • @theodoreeliaseronsten5468
      @theodoreeliaseronsten5468 Před 3 lety +27

      Well actually here Nasa was funding most of it's own budget

    • @Anton-ey6sl
      @Anton-ey6sl Před 3 lety +51

      @@theodoreeliaseronsten5468 yup, in this timeline Congress passed an act that allowed NASA to funnel funds back directly into the administration from their patents instead of the funds going to the U.S. Treasury.

    • @JustJohn505
      @JustJohn505 Před 3 lety +2

      Originality -100

    • @ChuckyLarms
      @ChuckyLarms Před 3 lety +8

      Well the way the Fed prints money, why have a budget or taxes at all. I’m told that inflation is a conspiracy. So why not send trillions to NASA

    • @robertwoods6364
      @robertwoods6364 Před 3 lety

      @@ChuckyLarms corruption and they probably do but everything is classified

  • @johnneveu1718
    @johnneveu1718 Před 2 lety +124

    Sally Ride is absolutely marvelous here, she is just such a spark plug! By far one of my favorite things about this show is how respectful they are towards the historical figures. They are never perfect, but they are always complex and firm. I really, really, hope Dr. Ride takes a step up in the next season.

    • @Skiergold
      @Skiergold Před 2 lety +4

      No sign of her yet, but there's still time

    • @Cyke101
      @Cyke101 Před rokem +4

      I love that, in this reality, the Sally Ride we know and love is actually upgraded to be even more of a badass. It's the same as our Sally Rise, just more of what would she do in those events.

  • @Electric_Bagpipes
    @Electric_Bagpipes Před 3 lety +352

    “Nuclear engines”... you have no idea how little that narrows it down.

    • @owouwu9032
      @owouwu9032 Před 3 lety +92

      chill they just bought some nervas from Werner von kerman

    • @leerman22
      @leerman22 Před 3 lety +23

      @@owouwu9032 Get some "open-cycle" nuclear engines from Robert Zubrin.

    • @unexpected2475
      @unexpected2475 Před 3 lety +17

      @@leerman22 don't open-cycle vehicles irradiate the hell out of their surroundings?

    • @leerman22
      @leerman22 Před 3 lety +33

      @@unexpected2475 All nuclear engines irradiate the hell of of their surroundings (if there are any), shadow-shielding is mass efficient. I think you are talking about emitting fission products in the exhaust traveling at sol escape velocity. When in space no one can hear that Karen.

    • @iain3713
      @iain3713 Před 3 lety +2

      Almost certainly a Nerva like ntr system

  • @TheBryanScout
    @TheBryanScout Před 3 lety +174

    So this is basically the cursed lovechild of the Space Shuttle and NERVA

  • @louisvandelaer6718
    @louisvandelaer6718 Před 3 lety +206

    kinda looks like the shuttle and dreamchaser merged together ...

    • @TheEmeraldMenOfficial
      @TheEmeraldMenOfficial Před 3 lety +30

      It’s a Dyna-Soar: an actual concept. They modified it a little to look more like our Space Shuttle...

    • @louisvandelaer6718
      @louisvandelaer6718 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheEmeraldMenOfficial Wow! I didn't know about this concept. Looks pretty cool for the 60's tbh :D

    • @NickyLunaLove
      @NickyLunaLove Před 3 lety +9

      @@TheEmeraldMenOfficial except like 10 times bigger and white and black instead of jet black lol

    • @w9gb
      @w9gb Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheEmeraldMenOfficial … and who worked on the X-20 Dyna-Soar?
      Neil Armstrong.

  • @matthewcwkeech
    @matthewcwkeech Před 3 lety +504

    Give it a week and someone will recreate it in KSP

  • @fredlandry6170
    @fredlandry6170 Před 3 lety +148

    If only 1983 was really like this I was 13.

    • @chrisnewer3845
      @chrisnewer3845 Před 3 lety +13

      Well I hope not because as focused as this AU USSR is on internal and tech development, any Estern Europe independence movements will be stomped on hard.

  • @zaftred8777
    @zaftred8777 Před 3 lety +166

    You can call any vehicle a tin can but all that matters is that it's theirs. "Laddie, every woman has her own charm; ye just have to know where to look for it." -Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott (Star Trek)

    • @John-jc3ty
      @John-jc3ty Před 3 lety +1

      usually the charm is in the vag

    • @theodoreeliaseronsten5468
      @theodoreeliaseronsten5468 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm still surprised that star trek still existed in this timeline

    • @MAnuscript421
      @MAnuscript421 Před 2 lety +1

      Molly quoted Kirk in the season 2 finale.

    • @dragonsword7370
      @dragonsword7370 Před 2 lety +1

      @@theodoreeliaseronsten5468 The show was developed and started airing in 1966. The third and last season was finished and not picked up again as a show just a bit before the moon landing[either timeline in this case].

  • @roberthonan3492
    @roberthonan3492 Před rokem +20

    I love the timing with Ed saying it's going to make history, as Diane lovingly looks at her ship.

  • @matthewcaughey8898
    @matthewcaughey8898 Před 3 lety +42

    I look at pathfinder and I lament about what could have been

  • @manofsan
    @manofsan Před 3 lety +102

    never mind nuclear Shuttle - we got to see Sally Ride! :D

    • @anthonybanchero3072
      @anthonybanchero3072 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jannetling1615 Wasn't sure if she would be included,but she can still be 1st, 1st woman on Mars?

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 Před 3 lety +6

      @@anthonybanchero3072 No, They are 10 years behind that program remember and no doubt the war on the Moon will further delay it. It will be young engineer Aleida Rosales that will be the first women on Mars.

    • @jakistam1000
      @jakistam1000 Před 3 lety

      @@DavidKnowles0 Doubt it. I don't know exactly what age is Aleida at the end of Season 2, but I think at least 25. So far in the show, NASA is only taking experienced pilots as astronauts, and she has never flied and doesn't look like she will. Even if NASA drops the requirements to some degree, it'll definitely still be required for the "firsts". My guess is that Aleida is heading towards either NASA or JPL chief, and the first US woman on Mars might be Kelly Baldwin.

    • @ArcXDZ
      @ArcXDZ Před 2 lety

      @@DavidKnowles0 I think the person on mars in the ending was Ellen

  • @elmobrandao9849
    @elmobrandao9849 Před 3 lety +48

    The Dyna-Soar, at last!

  • @hook2186
    @hook2186 Před 3 lety +22

    She's beautiful... Jesus, how had I not heard about this show till now

    • @roy6907
      @roy6907 Před 3 lety +4

      You talking about the ship right?

    • @EthanPricco
      @EthanPricco Před 3 lety +3

      @@roy6907 probably

    • @msb3235
      @msb3235 Před 3 lety +1

      Because it's exclusively on Apple TV+ instead of Netflix?

    • @dirkdonger2887
      @dirkdonger2887 Před 2 lety +1

      Is a pretty bad show unfortunately. Massively cheesy and no where near as good as it could have been.

    • @ranaghast
      @ranaghast Před 2 lety +2

      @@dirkdonger2887 I love it personally. Each to their own.

  • @starpawsy
    @starpawsy Před rokem +5

    In another universe, reminds me of the take when Clint Eastwood sees the "Firefox" for the first time, in the eponymous movie.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před rokem +2

    I love your channel keep up the great stuff

  • @valentine7593
    @valentine7593 Před 3 lety +24

    Loved this scene, just watched it

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 Před 3 lety +55

    omg a nuclear shuttle?! YESSS

  • @TechWinnerCC
    @TechWinnerCC Před 4 měsíci

    Glorious foreshadowing. Hi Bob.

  • @johnnyfavorite1194
    @johnnyfavorite1194 Před 3 lety +5

    That Wig demonstrates FAM has a hair and makeup crew with a beautiful sense of humor.

  • @cipher0325
    @cipher0325 Před 3 lety +38

    If only this shuttle was actually made in real life

  • @user-lp7tx1fe6t
    @user-lp7tx1fe6t Před 3 lety +13

    A nuclear shuttle, goddammit. Why did I never think of this

    • @wincrasher2007
      @wincrasher2007 Před 3 lety +1

      it's a great idea if you don't mind a wee bit of radiation...

    • @leerman22
      @leerman22 Před 2 lety +2

      The shielding is an issue, a nose-heavy plane flies poorly, a tail-heavy plane flies once!

  • @rockspoon6528
    @rockspoon6528 Před 3 lety +10

    Damn, those wings are THICC.

  • @mackermaldrill2656
    @mackermaldrill2656 Před 3 lety +13

    Pathfinder looks like Baba Booey's enormous choppers.

  • @HighlandAerospace
    @HighlandAerospace Před 3 lety +15

    Like if shuttle and dream chaser had a kid and genetically modified it.

  • @tgmccoy1556
    @tgmccoy1556 Před 3 lety

    Like the scene in: "Strategic Air Command"
    When Jimmy Stewart walks in the Hangar containg the Boeing B-47.
    Except that one is real

  • @nothke
    @nothke Před 3 lety +5

    Looks just like Delta Glider from Orbiter

  • @hadorstapa
    @hadorstapa Před 3 lety +6

    Oh, Hollywood. Couldn’t you have consulted at least one astrophysicist? There is no point taking a space shuttle like that to Mars. The shuttle on barely flew in our atmosphere, it would fall like a rock in the Martian one.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 Před 3 lety +7

      I don't think they are taking it to Mars I think it just to test the engine design and a nuclear power systems and radiation shielding in space.

    • @hadorstapa
      @hadorstapa Před 3 lety +2

      @@DavidKnowles0 that would make sense; I hope you’re right.

    • @wincrasher2007
      @wincrasher2007 Před 3 lety +1

      cause everyone knows we'll all fly there in Tesla Roadsters. Duh.

    • @ranaghast
      @ranaghast Před 2 lety +2

      They use the shuttles in the show as ferries and use landers to go between the shuttle and the moon. Stands to reason they would use the same concept with Mars. Bringing the shuttle into mars atmosphere is stupid.

    • @moproodu
      @moproodu Před 6 měsíci

      they were right@@hadorstapa

  • @user-bj7cp6hm3q
    @user-bj7cp6hm3q Před 3 lety +5

    Насчет этого не знаю, но когда увидел Спейс Шаттл который летел к Луне у меня глаза на лоб вылезли. Он даже в теории не мог это делать.

    • @filippo9617
      @filippo9617 Před 2 lety

      (Use google translate)
      Bhè... come e progettato adesso no, ma modificandolo, che ne so, dedicando mezzo vano di carico (circa 10 tonnellate) potrebbe raggiungerla, non escludiamo poi il che abbiano implementato dei motiri orbitali più efficenti di quelli ad idrazina.
      Lo shuttle ha enormi potenzialità, e se facesse un aereofrenaggio anzichè un rientro completo potrebbe pure tornare dalla luna.

  • @DonJon99
    @DonJon99 Před rokem

    Do anyone know which is the name of the background song? Thank you so much

  • @flashh112362
    @flashh112362 Před 3 lety +13

    imagine having a space craft with UNLIMITED power, I feel a lot safer.

  • @GillesSoulet
    @GillesSoulet Před 3 lety +11

    What's the point of going to Mars with a shuttle designed to land on a runway ?

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před 3 lety +4

      thats actually a good question

    • @Singurarity88
      @Singurarity88 Před 3 lety

      vErTiCaLlY? But seriously. It's possible to do a suicide burn and still land there. The better question is, how to take off from there again ;)

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 Před 3 lety

      @@Singurarity88 That's why a Space Shuttle is not something you'd fly with crews to Mars. Too much useless mass. The things that usually land there are the way. Just simplier, smaller capsules.

    • @filippo9617
      @filippo9617 Před 2 lety

      In futuro può tornare utile, e se la puoi rifornire in orbita non hai nemmeno il proble.a dell'atterraggio.

    • @ronin3381
      @ronin3381 Před 2 lety +2

      Pathfinder was never designed to go to Mars. She was designed to test the nuclear engines that would go to Mars.

  • @stevenclark2188
    @stevenclark2188 Před 3 lety +7

    Why does it feel like the leadup to an even worse Challenger?

    • @Ryan_Christopher
      @Ryan_Christopher Před rokem

      Challenger explosion doesn’t happen in this timeline. Ironically because a certain amount of Russian espionage into NASA was involved, which would lead to the discernment of the problems in the SRB O-Rings - of both countries’ shuttles.

  • @groupb9420
    @groupb9420 Před 3 lety +1

    Anyone notice her name is S. Ride?

  • @Windows035
    @Windows035 Před 3 lety +3

    me 7 episodes in: remember that little thing called mars?

  • @fritzfam5
    @fritzfam5 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bro what happened to these? They were grounded and never mentioned again after season 3

  • @bbeen40
    @bbeen40 Před 3 lety +16

    I want to watch this show so bad!
    Unfortunately, Apple says you can use chromecast but you actually can't....
    I'm not spending thousands of dollars on a new Apple Tv andApple Phone just to watch one damn show.
    Incompetent, greedy bastards!!

    • @javierpowell4705
      @javierpowell4705 Před 3 lety +4

      i mean i just plugged my laptop into the hdmi on my tv XD and i just watch on my laptop when i can't play it on tv

    • @bbeen40
      @bbeen40 Před 3 lety

      @@javierpowell4705
      I don't have a computer, just my phone. Oh well.

    • @WOOTIMSOAWESOME1111
      @WOOTIMSOAWESOME1111 Před 3 lety

      Lol an Apple TV is like a hundred dollars, and it SMASHES chrome cast. As a previous chrome cast user, look into an Apple TV. It is really game changing, the remote and Siri built in, it’s the best media device. It has built in apps, can play your Apple Music, Stream your screen, HiFi music capability. I really wouldn’t sit here and type all this out if I wasn’t a huge fan of mine.

    • @bbeen40
      @bbeen40 Před 3 lety +4

      @@WOOTIMSOAWESOME1111
      I appreciate the advise but I had an Iphone once and it was absolute garbage. I will never buy another Apple product.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Před 3 lety

      That's the general idea - promote devices and walled garden with exclusive content.

  • @jackpaton3317
    @jackpaton3317 Před 3 lety

    Anyone know the name of the music in this scene?

  • @seniorjuapo6448
    @seniorjuapo6448 Před 3 lety +4

    People who hold a door open from the same side as you make me fucking crazy. GET OUT THE WAY SECURITY MAN. Enter the room and then hold it open, don't just awkwardly stand in the doorway and push on it

  • @haidermalik5744
    @haidermalik5744 Před rokem +4

    So I’m guessing they didn’t use this for the maiden voyage to mars because it would be able to hold enough supply’s for the first trip? I’m guessing pathfinder would’ve been used as a transport for more people

    • @MarcusYap
      @MarcusYap Před rokem +3

      Pathfinder was discontinued because it blew up during a mission. Moon marines, including Steve Lopez (one of them during the incident at Jamestown) were killed from that. It was mentioned in one of those news reports extras.

    • @haidermalik5744
      @haidermalik5744 Před rokem

      @@MarcusYap Alr thx

    • @thespiritstingray9359
      @thespiritstingray9359 Před rokem +6

      @@MarcusYap the program wasn't discontinued and pathfinder did not explode. The event you're referencing is the cabin depressurization of pathfinder which killed its crew, causing the existing fleet to be grounded, not discontinued. It is unknown when or if they were ever flown again but the most likely outcome was they were put back in service

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před rokem +4

      @@thespiritstingray9359 Pathfinder fleet was temp grounded as a precaution in case whatever caused the cabin depressurization was on any other Pathfinders

    • @Ryan_Christopher
      @Ryan_Christopher Před rokem

      Mission to Mars was scheduled for 1994. Actually 1996 but things would happen in the next season to cause the earlier attempts. Yes, plural.

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 Před 3 lety +1

    Let's hope they not killed off Sally Ride on Challenger.

    • @astroevada
      @astroevada Před 2 lety +2

      NASA actually gave a shit about the O-ring seal problem so Challenger is all good in this AU

  • @eddycharles4274
    @eddycharles4274 Před 3 lety +8

    When they say nuclear-powered, do they mean nuclear fusion or nuclear fission?

    • @joaquinvillanueva2314
      @joaquinvillanueva2314 Před 3 lety +3

      Nuclear engines

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle Před 3 lety +9

      Considering that we haven't figured out fusion yet in 2021, I'd say fission.
      Probably a nuclear salt rocket engine.

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 Před 3 lety +8

      Nuclear thermal, using fission. The technology has been around for decades, NASA built NERVA to test the concept.

    • @bbeen40
      @bbeen40 Před 3 lety +2

      Fusion is 30 years away, and always will be.

    • @MikMoen
      @MikMoen Před 3 lety +1

      Fission. Even in current real world we're nowhere close to viable Nuclear Fusion reactions. I believe this shuttle is supposed to have Nuclear Pulse engines.

  • @aerospacematt9147
    @aerospacematt9147 Před 3 lety +5

    2:47 Hey! Redheads can be darn good pilots too you know

  • @L33tSkE3t
    @L33tSkE3t Před 2 lety +6

    This year’s U.S. Defense budget is going to be over $778 billion , roughly $60 billion more than last year and nobody bats an eye or asks where is it going to come from… NASA’s is $24 Billion… I think we have our priorities backwards

    • @clostridiumtetani9947
      @clostridiumtetani9947 Před 2 lety +1

      No, they're the right way around. the military budget's going up in case Russia tries anything funny. I think once this war's over and embarasses and causes russia to collapse, the Military should go back to its original budget and NASA should get the diff. It's only fair, if they want a big budget because of Russia, take it away when they're out of the picture

    • @h.cedric8157
      @h.cedric8157 Před rokem

      @@clostridiumtetani9947 more of a China issue that's why defense budget is that high, the fact that Russia has fucked itself up trying to fuck Ukraine up. Plus, you wouldn't have a space program if you do not have a country.

    • @L33tSkE3t
      @L33tSkE3t Před rokem +1

      @@clostridiumtetani9947 Even if Russia were out of the picture, then China’s the boogie man, then North Korea, Pakistan, Most Middle Eastern nations that aren’t Israel, The Emirates or Saudi Arabia…. It doesn’t need to be that high…

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před rokem

      the military budget has never been audited. lots of money is unaccounted for. odds are 300-400 billion is what the US military needs. if every dollar spent on NASA was supposed to generate the next year ten dollars then the NASA budget could come from royalties, tech patents and not a single tax dollar spent

  • @ME262MKI
    @ME262MKI Před 3 lety

    Ok, where are the auto cannons?

  • @chadferckel2595
    @chadferckel2595 Před 3 lety +4

    While they're up there if they run across Captain Kirk, of the U.S.S Enterprise like that one episode where they went back in time. Those people in the Apollo, were like wtf is that, don't try to chase them, always ended up bad in Star Trek lol.

  • @throwback19841
    @throwback19841 Před 3 lety +19

    Yes, lets take nuclear engines, which weigh a ton, add it to a space plane, which also weighs way more than it needs to, and haul that lot all the way to bloody Mars and back again to make the most inefficient launch/transfer vehicle ever, instead of just launching a nuclear propulsion stage, a hab module, and using a conventional shuttle or more mundane crew transfer system to transfer crew until you develop more space-x like reusable capability.

    • @madjedi2235
      @madjedi2235 Před 3 lety +10

      Yeah I’m liking the second season less than I liked the first. It seems like they’re using space exploration to tell other stories instead of the main story being about space. Which is fine, but not exactly what I want. The space shuttle to the moon doesn’t exactly make sense either but it’s probably the kind of thing people watching the show will recognize. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 Před 3 lety +9

      @@madjedi2235 They still haven't explained how the shuttles are lunar capable and there's only a sentence on mentioning that the Sea Dragon is fully reusable.
      They have too much focus on the characters and their mellow drama and not enough on the technology and changes in this alt-timeline. The first half of season 1 had a good balance, I'm hoping the rest of the season actually focuses on the events surrounding the people in the show.

    • @throwback19841
      @throwback19841 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jogeta5 Yeah I can't help thinking "there's plenty of other dramas I could watch for character development, I came here to see steely-eyed missile men and women do heroic and impressive things in space with what-if post-apollo technology"

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 Před 3 lety

      @@throwback19841 Science fiction seems to be more sci-fi drama these days for the show creators. Well someone who works on the show did say more action happens in the rest of the season on a review video in the comments so let's hope that's the case.

    • @ReadmanJ
      @ReadmanJ Před 3 lety +2

      @@throwback19841 I mean did you miss the scene where the political dude just low-key was like hey bro check out my EV like it ain't no thing.
      *IN 1983* :/

  • @TheGodfather-bm3ow
    @TheGodfather-bm3ow Před 3 lety +2

    Wouldn't that shuttle require a large amount of water then ... unless they are saying they perfected cold fusion lol.

    • @w9gb
      @w9gb Před 2 lety +1

      Later in timeline … Nuclear fusion works.

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před rokem +1

      give you a hint nuclear power plants require water since the heat of the reactor turns water into steam to turn a turbine plus cooling towers to cool the water when it condenses back so it can be used again. in nuclear rockets the heat ignites the propellent which also keeps the reactor internal temp regulated.

  • @piotrd.4850
    @piotrd.4850 Před 3 lety +6

    All this effort for caricature of reasonable extrapolation - yeah. Shuttle to Mars. Nuclear or otherwise.... also 4x as powerful in that context .... isn't much.

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, it's like a flying car with propellers that goes around Earth in one go.

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 Před 2 lety +1

      It's not going to mars, it's an engine testbed

    • @moproodu
      @moproodu Před 6 měsíci

      @@LOLHAMMER45678 well they might have needed to pay attention for that.

  • @renan7114
    @renan7114 Před rokem +1

    If the NASA had the US Army budget:

  • @madjedi2235
    @madjedi2235 Před 3 lety +11

    Are those air breathing engines? Those look like inlet cones to me.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin Před 3 lety +4

      I know. I haven't watched the show and am fairly certain that if I did my head would explode. I have a degree in Aerospace Engineering and the majority of Hollywood attempts at depicting the space program make me sick. I made it through episode 2 of AWAY and could stand no more.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin Před 3 lety +1

      @@FlyfarHP The complete nonsense of crew drama made this a joke from the start. Those crews are specifically selected and trained in order to avoid any such nonsensical drama.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin Před 3 lety

      @@FlyfarHP That is a great line!

    • @datvik7187
      @datvik7187 Před 3 lety

      @@kennethfharkin this show would only have a few aerospace engineers watching it, if it didn't have typical drama for the masses to consume.

    • @kennethfharkin
      @kennethfharkin Před 3 lety +3

      @@datvik7187 Reinforcing stupidity is how you get a population to steadily decrease in intelligence.

  • @motokid6008
    @motokid6008 Před 3 lety +3

    Im trying to think how a nuclear powered space shuttle like the one depicted here would be useful. A space shuttle with wings made sense on a low-earth orbit craft. Wings do not make sense on anything beyond LEO. Not to mention any payload bay would be used up for hydrogen fuel storage. That thing is not flying on Mars... So why stick nuclear engines inside such a vehicle? So much wrong with this in a space flight architecture sense. Looks cool though I suppose... I want to watch this show. But space shuttles to the moon is really put-off for me. You use shuttles to bring the crew up to a mothership/transfer stage. Which would be nuclear. Fancy sci-fi shuttles are not how you fly in space.
    Edit: Eh... maybe such a thing would be good to ferry crew to and from Mars in one package that can land back at Earth. But nuclear engines really shouldnt come back. Once they're in orbit a nuclear system should STAY up there. So imo it still makes more sense to have dedicated tugs and have a simplified shuttle for LEO transport.

    • @madjedi2235
      @madjedi2235 Před 3 lety +1

      I agree entirely. I liked the first season more, I understand that they have to take some liberties, but space and accuracy seem to have taken a back seat in the second season.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 Před 3 lety

      Streamlining and integration are likely more of their priority since they never experienced their budgets take a nose-dive and having massive program cancellations.
      It looks like they want to have routine and regular access from Earth surface to Mars. They do have a fleet of lunar capable shuttles (showing how they can do that would be nice) and building off what they know for Mars and beyond seems like a no brainer to them.
      I think they have orbital refuelling as well along with other space projects since the international scene is much bigger too.

    • @ikeraguirre5865
      @ikeraguirre5865 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Jogeta5 If budget wasn't a concern, then why do shuttles in this timeline include all of the compromises forced by the USAF and Congress (delta wings for cross range, SRBs for cost). Why not implement NASA's original fully reusable concepts for the Shuttle. Hell, even a JSC Shuttle II or Lockheed Starclipper would have been cool.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 Před 3 lety

      @@ikeraguirre5865 Unfortunately since the showrunners focus more on the drama of the astronauts instead of the events and development of technology we really don't know why. It's only in episode 7 that the O-Ring problem was even brought up. Maybe in ep 8, the shuttle design choice will get a mention.

    • @ikeraguirre5865
      @ikeraguirre5865 Před 3 lety

      @@Jogeta5 the problem is that this version of the Shuttle doesn't make sense in this timeline.

  • @atomskate4882
    @atomskate4882 Před 3 lety

    Turn it up plz lol

  • @ethanwhitham2022
    @ethanwhitham2022 Před 3 lety +1

    Is it bigger then the space shuttle

  • @christianhardwick6530
    @christianhardwick6530 Před 3 lety +1

    Sally Ride! Shit looks silly.

  • @earth2006
    @earth2006 Před 3 lety +6

    Wouldn't it be great if this was available for "All Mankind" to see rather then those who can afford an Apple ?.

    • @WOOTIMSOAWESOME1111
      @WOOTIMSOAWESOME1111 Před 3 lety +2

      Well it’s funded by Apple, I can see why they make it exclusive. And it’s really not hard to see, every Apple device comes with a massive free trial for this streaming service.

    • @patrickkeyes6682
      @patrickkeyes6682 Před 3 lety +1

      Bro it’s like six bucks, apples paying to have this entire show made how are they gonna make any money back from it if they just give it to their competitors

    • @earth2006
      @earth2006 Před 3 lety

      @@qed100 I really don't mind paying for a program or show, having to buy a new laptop (I checked, more expensive and less capable then what I need) seems a bit much.

    • @earth2006
      @earth2006 Před 3 lety

      @@patrickkeyes6682 if it was only $6, no problem, I don't want to buy new equipment, from what Ive seen the show is pretty good, there's $$$ to be made in general release.

    • @AtomicHorror
      @AtomicHorror Před 3 lety +1

      @@earth2006 It's more awkward that Netflix and the like, but why do you need to buy a laptop? An Apple TV box is about $200, and a lot of TVs made over the last few years have an Apple TV app or else they support casting via Airplay.

  • @lentan5475
    @lentan5475 Před 3 lety +18

    The pathfinder modeling is kind of lazy. They can get rid of the head of original shuttle and use the better and cooler lift-body design totally like the later X-33.

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 Před 3 lety +8

      It makes sense for them to be using common parts between the shuttle and Pathfinder

    • @ThatFoolishBoy
      @ThatFoolishBoy Před 3 lety +7

      The lift body design was sadly very underdeveloped for orbiters. Also NASA design by committee would mean legacy parts would become a bargaining tool for the senate

    • @thomasackerman5399
      @thomasackerman5399 Před 3 lety +5

      Kind of? This is just an awful design that doesn't make a lot of sense. Big heavy wings, bigger than the original real life STS orbiter wings and more. The writers and the people working on the show either don't know or don't care about the reason the Shuttle had the big wings it did.
      Instead of going ahead and realizing one of the design NASA had wanted for Shuttle, like Lockheed's Starclipper lifting body or Rockwell's tandem vehicle with small wings, they instead got real sloppy and made this travesty and the just used the compromised real world design that was only partially reusable and relied on solid rockets for most of its thrust during 1st stage.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 Před 3 lety +2

      The fat wings look... off... Aside of that, as Thomas said, they probably don't know why wings were this big in the first place*. The heavy protection on them would not make a good interplanetary craft, even if you have NERVA style engines.
      Also those air intakes... unless they would allow air breathing NERVA, they seem pretty stupid (and even then, how much speed can you get on them? 2km/s out of 8 required)
      * For those interested, there were plans for single orbit missions, and because Earth rotated underneath, they would need to turn quite a bit during reentry.

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 Před 3 lety

      @@thomasackerman5399 I'm reasonably sure that it was just convenient for them to make Pathfinder a testbed for both future Mars mission technologies (the engines) and "Mk2" shuttle improvements. I don't think it's a series production vehicle. Why exactly they're flying a shuttle to the moon is beyond me if they're not just testing said technologies.

  • @Iartonki
    @Iartonki Před 3 lety +1

    look how they massacred my boy

  • @DavidKnowles0
    @DavidKnowles0 Před 3 lety

    To be honest I was disappointed, it just look like a tiny evolution on the shuttle, not something that could get us to Mars.

    • @danickimholz8321
      @danickimholz8321 Před 3 lety

      it seems like it doesn't have a payload bay, therefor it could carry a lot more fuel then the normal space shuttle, it also has nuclear powered engines that are verry efficient, so with these changes you don't need much more to go to mars, so what did you expect it to look like? a ship form starwars or something?

    • @leerman22
      @leerman22 Před 3 lety

      @@danickimholz8321 Besides that you got plenty of power for ISRU, extracting water or hydrogen from water to use as propellant.

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 Před 3 lety

      @@danickimholz8321 The same thing but without wings. It's too useless to have them on a trip to Mars and back.

    • @danickimholz8321
      @danickimholz8321 Před 3 lety

      @@fatitankeris6327 you are right, the Wings are not realy usefull, but they said that the pathfinder was a type of shuttle, so did you expect it to not have wings? The argument of them being useluss is valid, but that is also true for the normal spaceshuttle, that's why NASA went back to capsules. So my point is, if you would upgrade a shuttle to Go to Mars, this is wat it COULD look like, It maybe is not the best design possible but its good enough, and most importently It makes sense that is looks like that becouse NASA doesn't want to reinvent the wheel every time, so they would upgrade a moon shuttle to get to mars.

  • @liammeech3702
    @liammeech3702 Před 3 lety +7

    Was this a real design?

    • @apolloparks3686
      @apolloparks3686 Před 3 lety +12

      Kind of. Seems to be based on the Shuttle Block II designs, but bigger and weirder. I have no clue who told them a shuttle could ever leave LEO though, that definitely could never have happened

    • @mattstorm360
      @mattstorm360 Před 3 lety +4

      @@apolloparks3686 Just slap some nuclear engines on it and it will work.... Probably...

    • @darkstrife421
      @darkstrife421 Před 3 lety +6

      i think its referencing the NERVA program in the the 70s, the test rockets were almost double the effiency of chemical rockets, and were intended for mars missions. However, the fear of an explosion on the pad or in atmo with a nuclear engine. The sheer weight of the prototypes due to the shielding, along with funding cuts shuttered the program.
      there were few variants but hydrogen fed were the main prototype i think. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NERVA

    • @kw9849
      @kw9849 Před 3 lety +1

      @@apolloparks3686 This is a very different, much better funded NASA. I imagine they could pull it off, though I'm not sure _why_ you'd want a shuttle capable of leaving LEO and performing Lunar injection, much less a nuclear propelled one.
      I'm hoping they elaborate on why and how they're sending shuttles to the moon, instead of more suitable craft.

    • @polygondwanaland8390
      @polygondwanaland8390 Před 3 lety

      @@kw9849 Throwing money at NASA doesn't guarantee results, just look at SLS.

  • @jondrew55
    @jondrew55 Před 3 lety +1

    What is this fuckery? Make Man in the High Castle’s last season look good

  • @Nick-oh6ms
    @Nick-oh6ms Před 3 lety +7

    This season is super slow in terms of action like the trailer hyped up season 2 and its not as good as I thought it was going to

    • @matthewspears6932
      @matthewspears6932 Před 3 lety +1

      Right... The first half of season 2 has been really slow so far.

  • @rkr9861
    @rkr9861 Před 3 lety +19

    So remember how having big wings for crossrange was part of the shuttle mess IRL that resulted in the loss of Columbia? What if we made the wings BIGGER!!!?? 🤣

    • @mattstorm360
      @mattstorm360 Před 3 lety +13

      The wings are fine as long as foam didn't hit it at just the right angle and speed. I'm going to guess for all mankind's nasa had the budget that allowed them to overcome the issue or stop the original shuttle program early so they can bring in the new pathfinder shuttle.

    • @thomasackerman5399
      @thomasackerman5399 Před 3 lety +4

      @@mattstorm360 They didn't in the FAMverse, they went ahead with the compromise partially reuseable design rather than one of the more expensive to develop but much more practical fully reusable and serviceable designs, like Starclipper or the Chrysler SSTO heavy lift vehicle.
      And the wings are terrible. They cost a huge amount of weight and make the orbiter very heavy, which in turn lead to the need to have the expensive and time-consuming ceramic tiles which lead in turn to the orbiters needing more inspections between flights, etc.

    • @akulahawk
      @akulahawk Před 2 lety +1

      Wings are fine. RCC on the leading edges of the wings and nose cone are fine. Even having lots of those fragile ceramic tiles were fine. What *wasn't* fine was that NASA didn't actively keep trying to minimize impacts to those areas. Nearly ALL the shuttle flights had damage to the TPS, some of that damage was very severe. EVERYONE that flew on a shuttle KNEW that if an RCC panel was breached, loss of an orbiter was highly likely. In this scenario, NASA would have been given LOTS of money to figure out how to stop the debris impacts, therefore bigger wings would have not been a problem. As to the types of debris, they were used to seeing bits of foam, SRB TPS material, and the like hitting the shuttle. The piece that knocked off an entire TPS tile from Atlantis on flight 27R could have caused significant damage to the wing RCC had it followed a slightly different path. It might not have punctured the RCC but a significant hit there would have likely spurred actual changes that could have resulted in later not losing Columbia.
      As an aside, there is a Pathfinder shuttle... It never flew as it was a overland transport test article and was never built for flight. Endeavour was put together from spare parts and that was easier than refitting Enterprise for orbital flight.

  • @brownbearboxproductions3458

    I think ww3 will happen in season 3

    • @wincrasher2007
      @wincrasher2007 Před 3 lety +3

      unless everybody dies from radiation poisoning first from all the nuclear engines....

    • @brownbearboxproductions3458
      @brownbearboxproductions3458 Před 3 lety

      Hahahaha I thought that close proximity to a mini reactor engine in space like that while rotating would likley cause them to have very very ilusive disorientation when they get to earth possibly blood vessle swe

  • @stuartyoung4182
    @stuartyoung4182 Před 3 lety

    Disappointing. Nuclear thermal and nuclear electric propulsion offer too little thrust for an atmospheric shutlle - and THAT shuttle is too small to contain a nuclear salt water rocket.
    And I hope that it isn't being suggested that this shuttle would be used for a Mars mission (maybe the reference is to a separate Mars ship which would also use nuclear engines)...

    • @toomanyaccounts
      @toomanyaccounts Před rokem

      learn what NERVA is. the shuttle is a testbed for the engine design that would be scaled up for the Mars mission.

  • @danielwalkus4257
    @danielwalkus4257 Před 3 lety +1

    Never having watched the show and not knowing the context, one could almost get the impression they have segregated Nasa and the white people get a nuclear super shuttle while the black lady gets the tin can😂

    • @filippo9617
      @filippo9617 Před 2 lety

      (Use google translate)
      (Spoiler)
      La nera, Poole, e stata assegnata alla missione Apollo-Soyuz, ma essendo gli USA riluttanti a esporre la tecnologia di uno shuttle allo spionaggio dei russi (un aggancio in orbita sarebbe la condizione ideale per esaminarlo) hanno deciso di usare una vecchia capsula Apollo e un S-IB per la missione.
      Poole ha volato sulle capsule Apollo (arruolata durante il programma di inclusione femminile di Nixon, fatto a seguito dell'allunaggio di una cosmonauta femmina), ha visitato Jamestown (base lunare) quando era ancora un piccolo modulo.
      Per lei le capsule Apollo sono vecchi amici (visto anche che ha avuto una certa pausa dai voli di qualche anno), poyerne rivedere una la fa tornare ai bei tempi on cui volava nello spazio.

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts Před 3 lety +1

    Why are they showing it to the maid? 🤣

  • @spokojnyMamut
    @spokojnyMamut Před 3 lety +7

    "FAM" is strange for me. Idea is brilliant, engineering also. But additional elements make everything boring. Its about space flight. Why the hell they put to many additions? Family story, gay story, lesbian story, furniture story, even garden party story. After third or fourth episodes I started rewind all no-space scenes.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 Před 3 lety

      This is why I never bothered to pick up this series.
      I *love* alternate history stuff, especially if it involves space travel, but then under every cool clip from this series I get comments that make me think there is nothing more to this series for me than those clips.

    • @Jogeta5
      @Jogeta5 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cola98765 The first half of Season 1 has a good balance, a little slow for a couple episodes, but I think it's pretty good. Season 2 so far has focused a bit more on the characters than I like, a bit of mellow drama etc. I hope the second half picks up.

  • @DavidSmith-wp2zb
    @DavidSmith-wp2zb Před 3 lety +6

    They managed to make this amazing concept for a show as boring as possible. Terrible writing and I'm a Ron Moore fan. It's just terrible television, I'm sorry

    • @bhbh820
      @bhbh820 Před 3 lety +6

      Well, it's not an action show.

    •  Před 3 lety +3

      Haven't been bored once so far.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 Před 3 lety

      YES, This is why I never bothered to pick up this series.
      I *love* alternate history stuff, especially if it involves space travel, but then under every cool clip from this series I get comments that make me think there is nothing more to this series for me than those clips.

    •  Před 3 lety

      @@cola98765 It's not like that at all.

    • @DavidSmith-wp2zb
      @DavidSmith-wp2zb Před 2 lety

      @ it's boring, but all streaming shows are, netflix hulu apple, all are terrible