David Koechner on Catholicism

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  • David Koechner talks about Catholicism. From The Blocks #podcast with Neal Brennan
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    Theme music by Electric Guest (unreleased).
    #podcast #standup #comedy #catholic #mentalhealth

Komentáře • 183

  • @GhostOfEnola
    @GhostOfEnola Před 6 měsíci +14

    I could listen to David for days. Its amazing that he can openly talk avout his struggles. From one sober person to another ....all the respect! What an amazing character and just amazing actor.❤

  • @Essobee
    @Essobee Před 7 měsíci +18

    There is a Peanuts comic I saw as a young kid which really stuck because of how well it matched my own experiences. Charlie thought two girls were talking about him, and he was getting more and more upset, and when he finally confronted them in the last panel, they told him that they had better things to talk about than Charlie. For some reason not being important enough to talk about helped that paranoid defensiveness I held onto

  • @Candide1776
    @Candide1776 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Definitely weird aspects to the Catholic faith, but I wouldn't put it in "cult" territory simply because there's no real penalty for leaving. A nun can walk out of the convent, a priest away from the church, or a regular parishioner can just leave the faith completely. There's no harassment or following you around or kidnapping like you might see with other "religions."

    • @Dd214medaddy
      @Dd214medaddy Před 5 měsíci

      It's still a cult. And when every family member and family friend is trying to coordinate secretly baptising your child, it's a fucking cult

    • @webkid4567
      @webkid4567 Před 5 měsíci

      All religions start to get cult-y when you start looking at how kids brought up in them are being indoctrinated basically across the board and then you start wondering how many of them would choose to believe it if they weren't manipulated to from birth.
      That's not to say all religious people do it maliciously or even knowingly. For many, religion is so wrapped up in their culture that the two are basically the same and a secular existence is sort of foreign to them, if not seen as straight-up evil.
      But the older I get the more it freaks me out to think of forcing any structured morality system on a child that goes beyond just not causing suffering in others, and respecting other people as long as they aren't causing suffering.
      Most religions CLAIM to be all about that at their core, but spending more than ten minutes around them or listening to them proselytize makes it clear they care about controlling/influencing a ton of other bs in yours and others' lives that should not matter to them or their "God" in any way.

  • @Thee_Finger
    @Thee_Finger Před 5 měsíci +4

    This conversation is very interesting, and very sad. They each seem eager to place the blame on "Catholicism" for David's problems, when really it sounds like David's parents were screwed up jerks who seem to have driven him to rebel against everything related to their oppressive parenting. And since they wielded their faith as a weapon against him, he's rebelled against the church as well. I haven't heard any substantive criticism of the Catholic faith in this interview, as to why the faith isn't true. I just hear criticisms of total A-holes who were Catholic. It's undoubtedly true that many Catholics are jerks, but is it wise to abandon your faith in God because some of the people around you are acting improperly? Let no man stand between you and Jesus. The Catholic faith expressed properly is all about freedom, love and joy.

  • @kevingibson2519
    @kevingibson2519 Před 7 měsíci +21

    This podcast has really become incredible. Neal is getting these folks to really open up and it's awesome to witness.

  • @petecolombo
    @petecolombo Před 7 měsíci +8

    Great to see Champ Kind being so vulnerable here.

  • @farmingwithautism9159
    @farmingwithautism9159 Před 7 měsíci +34

    This hits on something rarely discussed. There are Catholic churchgoers that are minimally invested in participating in their "faith". The kind of person that goes to church on most Sundays and then lights up the tires to get out of the parking lot as fast as possible. Normal people. Then there are those HARDCORE families in those same parishes that are atypical. The life inside those families can absolutely be cult-like or be a sort of mini-cult and growing up and living in such a family can be extremely damaging psychologically and have lifelong effects. To say even tragic effects isn't hyperbole

    • @amirite
      @amirite Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'm sorry but to act like this is never talked about is insane. I agree with it but it's also an insanely popular topic that I every single podcast episode feels like they're just cracking the lid open on it. I can't think of a more obvious statement than "Catholic parents and culture is repressive" and I feel like enabling the circle jerk around bitching about it is counter productive at this point.

    • @farmingwithautism9159
      @farmingwithautism9159 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@amirite Interesting take. Maybe it depends on the region, diocese or parish, but it seems in present day that a large majority of Catholics are about as liberal as ELCA Lutherans. Most church going Catholics today don't pray at home regularly, etc. Nearly secularized. Hardly repressive like Koechner describes of his family experience, etc. Most Catholic families today aren't members of Ecclesial Communities like Opus Dei, the Neocatechumenal Way, Brothers and Sisters of Charity or 3rd Order groups. Very few are. But...those that are? They're on another level of living separated from society. Cult-like in family structure. I stand by rarely hearing that level of extreme being talked about. In fact, the experience of "run of the mill" Catholics vs. the extreme Catholics is so different that one needs to have lived the latter to understand the impact of it.

    • @Metonymy1979
      @Metonymy1979 Před 7 měsíci +1

      What are you talking about "not talked about"? They literally have a name for them. Cafeteria Catholics

    • @farmingwithautism9159
      @farmingwithautism9159 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Metonymy1979 Koechner is talking about the opposite of a Cafeteria Catholic as am I.

    • @EddieAntMusic
      @EddieAntMusic Před 6 měsíci

      @@farmingwithautism9159
      I think we should start normalizing pointing out how awful of a religion that Christianity actually is.
      Its an awful apocalyptic religion which literally worships human sacrifice.

  • @matth7448
    @matth7448 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Sometimes i get resentful about my parents and my childhood and then I hear something like this and It makes me feel better.

  • @RyanKatsuRivera
    @RyanKatsuRivera Před 6 měsíci +25

    Take advice from:
    The one true Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, the Bride of Christ who for over 2,000 years have survived attacks, scandal, turmoil, schism and have had brave men die in the name of their unrelenting Faith to our Lord Jesus Christ-- or 2 depressed addicts in show business who aren't fit to give advice, talking about their feelings and should probably reintroduce the idea of shame and self examination?
    I'm praying for you both, and you can't stop me 🙏😌

    • @tyrendis
      @tyrendis Před 6 měsíci +8

      BASED

    • @zergbong
      @zergbong Před 6 měsíci +1

      live your life free, buddy. don't believe mythology of some weird cult. and don't donate to the catholic church because this enables pedos

    • @revwillyg6450
      @revwillyg6450 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Please pray for me too! And I will also do absolutely nothing for you 😉

  • @thesimulation9651
    @thesimulation9651 Před 7 měsíci +7

    The put your nose in a circle thing is putting a child in 'stress positions', at our house it was called cockroaching where you had to lay on your back with arms and legs extended straight up. Anyone else have similar childhood experiences, is it from having a parent who served in the military?

    • @HappyPandaP
      @HappyPandaP Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yikes! I call it child abuse.

    • @thesimulation9651
      @thesimulation9651 Před 7 měsíci

      @@HappyPandaP yup, that's an accurate description, but back in the 70s and 80s it was considered teaching self discipline through 'tough love'

    • @thatgreenslime9517
      @thatgreenslime9517 Před 6 měsíci

      Widely considered to be actual torture. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4890253/

    • @r.lum.r
      @r.lum.r Před 5 měsíci +1

      Damn, I do have a similar thing, and yes it was from my military father. I was about 8 or 9, and he’d make me stand in a corner, arms extended with palms upward, holding two heavy cans of vegetables as punishment. I think I had to do it until he told me I could stop, but he would also forget about me.

    • @thesimulation9651
      @thesimulation9651 Před 5 měsíci

      @@r.lum.r glad to hear I'm not the only one✌️

  • @JonathanHassingerChannel
    @JonathanHassingerChannel Před 6 měsíci +3

    “I was one of the great criers.” 😂😂

  • @user-kp1ml5wq4d
    @user-kp1ml5wq4d Před 5 měsíci +3

    This is describing most Catholics of another generation FYI. I live in Colorado and recently came back to the faith and the Denver Diocese are amazing, I am sure there are crazy religious people out there, but on large these types have died away.

  • @dasninjastix
    @dasninjastix Před 7 měsíci +26

    Absolutely, it's a cult that survives on passing guilt, shame, and fear as love. If you make people feel guilty and shameful you can have power over them. They employ fear when someone challenges the assumed authority. Just know if your someone who identifies as Catholic, and you haven't been made to feel shameful, guilty, and fear hasn't been used as a tool of indoctrination in your worship.. then you're not actually Catholic. These things are core to the Catholic faith, and if you're Roman Catholic you can add statues and all types of iconographic paraphernalia to the whole shame, guilt, fear soup.

    • @stu1037
      @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci

      Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey, "He said for you to give me your share."

    • @kskzjbmamanan4138
      @kskzjbmamanan4138 Před 7 měsíci

      It's not just Catholicism. It's any and pretty much every religion that uses these same tactics to help ensure its survival. Imagine a super strict and harsh Evangelical. Or a Muslim (actual penalty of death to leave religion). Or an Amish. Or a Hindu. The one thing all religions have in common is the blinders they demand from their adherents (willing or not), and the level of mass manipulation they engage in to propagate their agenda.

    • @TRON0314
      @TRON0314 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I went to Catholic School for 13 years, family was very Catholic and never experienced that or that "Catholic Guilt" I don't practice now, but I always find it weird when people say that. I mean "Survives on passing guilt, shame, and fear as love." Shit, that's just human society. Work, family, friends, politics, etc.

    • @dasninjastix
      @dasninjastix Před 6 měsíci

      @@TRON0314 I've now spoken to many people who are practicing Catholics who describe a faith that is just not Catholism. I don't have any issues with that, that's not my point, my point is it seems people have interpreted Catholism in different ways just like any branch of any other major religion. However core to the tenets of Catholism is what I call spiritual debt. In Catholism everything stems from Original Sin, that's the debt, that unless you ask (or beg) for forgiveness through Jesus Christ who martyr himself for the sins of mankind, you cannot be accepted into the kingdom of heaven and are lost. So the first tenet is to assign guilt through birth. Simply by being born, even if baptized, a person is no absolved of original sin. They are made to endure the shame of sin to motivate themselves to subservience to God. That is fundamental to the Catholic faith. If you or anyone else was taught otherwise I completely understand. But that necessitates a reinterpretation of Catholic dogma. In Catholism you are guilty of both original sin and the condemnation and execution of the Messiah. That brokers the exchange of your penance by way of the Catholic Church and it's discretions. It's a system of guilt, shame, repression, manipulation, and exploitative. The Catholic Church has had a long standing interest in political power, wealth, and resources. I'm not going to equivocate the whole of human existence or the degrees to which any society has social exertions to the specific history of the Catholic Church or Catholism. People invent and continuously reinvent religious belief, it's the institutions that seek to maintain a certain status quo and I would not agree that every institution operates on the basis of fear, guilt, shame, control, and manipulation like the Catholic Church.

  • @danielvalleduarte
    @danielvalleduarte Před 6 měsíci +1

    My neck hurts from watching people strain to talk to eachother while facing the camera

  • @maryjaneferg5736
    @maryjaneferg5736 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I thought I was the only kid who wasn’t allowed to laugh at the dinner table !

  • @mozart9991
    @mozart9991 Před 5 měsíci +4

    A cult is a religion that you don't like, and a religion is a cult that you do like. In other words, he's right.

  • @mikeferguson4816
    @mikeferguson4816 Před 6 měsíci +1

    always interesting watching successful people bare their soul

  • @jfer982
    @jfer982 Před 6 měsíci +5

    This is not the Catholicism I know.

    • @hachmejo
      @hachmejo Před 5 měsíci

      My grandfather exposed the Catholic priest that was raping the boys in my home town. Our family was harassed for telling the truth about that incredibly terrible act. All of my friends growing up who now have substance abuse issues, are transsexual/ gay or have tried to kill themselves came from Catholic families.

    • @RjTheTrigun
      @RjTheTrigun Před 4 měsíci

      Sadly that's the version of Christianity we are introduced to. Not what is supposedly preached but intolerance,shame, homophobia,racism.

    • @gloriamariadc7757
      @gloriamariadc7757 Před 16 hodinami

      Same.

  • @user-hs7ps3egdkdkd
    @user-hs7ps3egdkdkd Před 6 měsíci +3

    Isn’t AA a cult also. Is not everything?

  • @KelticTim
    @KelticTim Před 6 měsíci +4

    No, not every Saints day, just the Holy Days of Obligation. 10 seconds in and the BS starts. Let’s go

  • @xomegbulex
    @xomegbulex Před 5 měsíci +3

    i don't agree with much said on this conversation

  • @mocatfish
    @mocatfish Před 6 měsíci

    I would have liked to hear his opinion about the numerous Mennonite/Amish churches (cults) around his home town. There’s a great Amish bakery in Tipton, Mo.

  • @bananascoaster1243
    @bananascoaster1243 Před měsícem

    You don't miss a Sunday or a 'holy day of obligation' it's in the name! 😂

  • @wrinkleneckbass
    @wrinkleneckbass Před 6 měsíci +3

    Around 1978, when I was a young good looking teenage male, my devout Catholic mother took me to her church so I could attend catechism classes. While interviewing with the priest, it was obvious he was VERY interested in spending time with me. Luckily, my mother sensed what was happening and we promptly left. I read that a few years later he was arrested for molesting young boys and spent the remaining years of his life in prison.

    • @gloriamariadc7757
      @gloriamariadc7757 Před 16 hodinami

      Smart mom. Yep.. amazing how not all parents are as common sensical.

  • @shawnosborne9427
    @shawnosborne9427 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man that holding your arms out shit was rougher than it sounds. My step mom used to make me do that shit and every time i put them down it was 15 more minutes. My dad went upstairs to take a nap one time and when he came back down i was still there crying and trying to hold my arms up by biting my sleeves.

  • @mattsmiley8156
    @mattsmiley8156 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Thank you for this. That's all i can say. That and just how much this resonates.

  • @evdokiademetriades4975
    @evdokiademetriades4975 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Please 🙏 David Sedaris 🙏🙏⭐️⭐️❤️❤️

  • @jordanweimer788
    @jordanweimer788 Před 7 měsíci +12

    I choose not to believe in an unjust God who makes people guess correctly information that they cannot know. I choose to believe that God would understand my skepticism.
    Anyone who is foisting the “death lottery” question - “what would you do if you die and stand before x God and he’s right there” - is in a cult, on a mission from God that God could easily do without them.
    If God is in control of every mechanism in the universe, do you really think God cares about our opinions of God? Is God an insane metaphysical narcissist or a being capable of having compassion on people who can’t know what they can’t know?
    I don’t know and I don’t care for the most part. But if I’m going to spend any time considering the death lottery question, I’m gonna guess that God would be most understanding of reasonable positions that didn’t cause harm to others.

    • @megyskermike
      @megyskermike Před 7 měsíci +2

      If such a being exists, the idea that we have a great deal of comprehension or a proper translation of his exact "words" is egotistical and absurd.
      Mankind should understand the limitations of our own capacity to interpret his will, even if he/she were speaking to such an entity directly, but no such concession(s) are spoken about. The Bible should be taken as "his word" and that's end.. what a silly and limited idea.

    • @KingYahtzee
      @KingYahtzee Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@megyskermikenot to mention, even *if* the Bible was the inerrant and perfect word of God, it is still interpreted by people who are not perfect and have different perspectives/perceptions. So there can't possibly be an absolute truth to the Bible, even if we were to accept that it's the "Word of God".
      I say this as someone who gets a lot from the Bible and I still consider myself a follower of Christ.

  • @CatholicSamurai
    @CatholicSamurai Před 6 měsíci +7

    It’s almost comical listening to David trot out every stereotypical trope from an ex-Catholic GenXer. I could play bingo with all the stuff he’s talking about. It’s honestly pathetic.
    When he leads with “can you believe our family went to church each sunday?!” like he was being put to work in the frickin coal mines, just shows how totally selfish and unserious guys from his generation are. These guys are just talking out their ass. Not to mention the terrible slander and falsehoods against the Church that he perpetuates here. And we younger people look back on the era of David’s youth as one of lax standards and doing whatever you want. David has convinced himself of a fantasy version of “growing up Catholic in the 70s/80s”
    I’m a late-millenial who came into the Catholic Church in my 20s after growing up in the kind of life that David thinks is so much better.
    It’s just cringey to listen to, it’s 15 minutes of dumb whining.

  • @VoxLesPaul
    @VoxLesPaul Před 6 měsíci +3

    7:36 As a 66 year old former Catholic and now non-denominational Christian / student of the bible, I am qualified to say that the Catholic church is a mixture of legitimate Christian faith with illegitimate man-made doctrine. Crack your bible. Start with Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, Acts - the essence of Christian faith.

    • @tevildo45
      @tevildo45 Před 6 měsíci

      If you’re not a catholic you’re not a Christian

    • @MJ23915
      @MJ23915 Před 2 měsíci

      @@VoxLesPaul We read the Gospels at every Mass. What are the illegitimate doctrines you are referencing?

    • @VoxLesPaul
      @VoxLesPaul Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@MJ23915
      1. Existence of Purgatory. Jesus' sacrifice on the cross is complete; there is no "temporary holding area" where additional prayers are required to remove one from Purgatory. Purgatory is not found in OT or NT. It's man-made doctrine.
      2. Mary as an intercessor. The "Hail Mary" was a specific message to Mary at a specific time, period.
      "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;" (1 Timothy 2:5)
      3. Patron saints as intermediaries - St. Christopher, etc.
      And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything in My name, I will do it... (John 14:13-17)
      4. Pope is infallable. Nope, not even close. Most recently gave a soft endorsement to lifestyles specifically called out in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11,
      "9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God."

    • @VoxLesPaul
      @VoxLesPaul Před 2 měsíci

      @@MJ23915 Most Catholics are biblically illiterate. The can cite a very low percentage of the Gospels, scriptures that are cherry-picked by the Vatican or regional authority. Here are examples of illegitimate doctrines:
      1. Purgatory, a holding cell that a believer supposedly has to get prayed out of. Isn't mention anywhere in the old or new testaments. Jesus never mentioned it, yet the Vatican has the audacity to keep it as doctrine creating worry for the souls of loved ones. Actual words of Jesus: "And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.” " - Luke 23:43
      2. Mary as a diety and intermediary for prayer. "“Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many rooms; if that were not so, I would have told you, because I am going there to prepare a place for you...6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me...12 Truly, truly I say to you, the one who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I am going to the Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, this I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it." - John 14
      3. Misuse of the word "saint", patron saints, like praying to St. Christopher for safe travel. There is no need for the church to canonize anyone. Every Christian believer is a saint. Paul addressed believers alive and dead as "saints". "Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." - Philippians 1:1-2
      Crack that bible, my friend.

  • @ltdattnspn
    @ltdattnspn Před 7 měsíci

    great series!

  • @Conorguill
    @Conorguill Před 5 měsíci +1

    My family were Catholic and STRICT. I'm not religious at all but I don't recognise this Catholicism they discuss at all.

  • @ML-yr9nr
    @ML-yr9nr Před 7 měsíci

    14:15 mizzou sounds about right

  • @itcouldbelupus2842
    @itcouldbelupus2842 Před 7 měsíci

    Love this.

  • @deedeemegadoodoo70
    @deedeemegadoodoo70 Před 7 měsíci

    Spot on

  • @mattgkunz
    @mattgkunz Před 6 měsíci +4

    You’re a very successful entertainer. Religion hurt you? Or has your success made you arrogant?

  • @williamhornabrook8081
    @williamhornabrook8081 Před 7 měsíci +3

    "We weren't allowed to laugh at the dinner table" is a very psychotic rule.

  • @niteshades_promise
    @niteshades_promise Před 6 měsíci +1

    Nose in the corner on tippy toes for hours. No crying or youll get another hour! Or get beat. Glad i had a dad keep me from prison.🍻

  • @michaelmccarty7993
    @michaelmccarty7993 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fuck. This is the therapy I didn't know was available. You mean it's not just me?!

  • @brittanycarriger
    @brittanycarriger Před 7 měsíci +1

    I won't watch this clip because Neal Brennan is much handsomer that the thumbnail. Get it together Will!

    • @MoteKinTrol
      @MoteKinTrol Před 7 měsíci +2

      Youve missed the point entirely.

  • @joecrowaz
    @joecrowaz Před 7 měsíci +10

    Anger is Sadness... The Motto of modern Republicans.

    • @Milton..
      @Milton.. Před 7 měsíci +1

      🍪

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Před 7 měsíci +2

      They do seem like very angry and sad people.
      They make me sad, always voting against their own interests for the party of corporate tax cuts.

    • @megyskermike
      @megyskermike Před 7 měsíci

      ​​​​​​@@itcouldbelupus2842Everybody is voting on continuing corporate interests if you do enough research (look into Biden's cabinet if you don't believe me). You think Monsanto isn't getting taken care of? One of the worst corporations to ever exist has a place in office.
      We can pretend otherwise and let our emotions be twisted to believe we're actually doing good, but when you break it down the people paying the most are the poor and those who make a decent living, but not enough to where they can pay lawyers to help them sidestep/find every loophole in the law.
      Why still isn't there an incremental increase in taxes that goes up past 200k? It's absurd, the guy making like 130k a year pays at the same percentage in income tax as the guy making 200 million. No liberal or republican has changed this shit in years because everyone protects their own. All of our representation are basically rich white (predominately) lawyers.
      The richest people/corporate interests are always the one's winning and the middle and lower class lose.. regardless of which of the two people you put in office.
      Maybe some votes are of a lesser evil or some people are helped, but just saying blanket statements like republicans are the only one's protecting corporate interests is silly, it's a corrupt af system.

    • @niteshades_promise
      @niteshades_promise Před 6 měsíci +3

      My red friends are happy, funny, not a care, work, rent n bills paid, spread love n peace. My blue friends are miserable, talk about hate n oppression, worry about food n how they're gonna pay bills every month as they don't work. Full or angar n sadness...oh n lots of violence. Domestic violence.🤐🍻

    • @joecrowaz
      @joecrowaz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@niteshades_promise Who are you kidding... You have no friends.

  • @kevinp.4891
    @kevinp.4891 Před 6 měsíci

    I can't take him seriously, because, and this is true, because he keeps his thermostat at "a cool 77 degrees"

  • @hankgoresich6836
    @hankgoresich6836 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Typical hackneyed critique of religion.

  • @jerryp6001
    @jerryp6001 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ha. 7:30
    I'll have to stop asking what religion or denomination do you belong to.
    What cult...I mean religion are you?

  • @rosalindaresendez2252
    @rosalindaresendez2252 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow my parents made us kneel on the floor, not touching the wall as punishment

  • @stu1037
    @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Whew! YT censorship in overdrive on this comment section.

  • @resistdespair1977
    @resistdespair1977 Před 6 měsíci

    Those who preach heaven leave hell in their wake.

  • @johnnyparsons4702
    @johnnyparsons4702 Před 6 měsíci

    Gary MacDonald

  • @jklol1680
    @jklol1680 Před 6 měsíci

  • @farmingwithautism9159
    @farmingwithautism9159 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Is there anything in life that should be above scrutiny? Religion is something that's been protected from even basic scrutiny for millennia. Historically speaking it wasn't that long ago when "heretics" were actually tortured and killed for questioning "The Church". An encouraging thing is that now religion is able to be questioned and scrutinized.

    • @gloriamariadc7757
      @gloriamariadc7757 Před 16 hodinami

      Lol.. & now it’s religion that is scrutinized by people as if they’r vultures over a carcus.

  • @TheNewGoodAtheist
    @TheNewGoodAtheist Před 6 měsíci

    I know there's a near zero chance of you reading this comment, let alone agreeing to this, but I would love to have you on my podcast to talk about your experiences with growing up in Catholicism. Your comment about how the Church covers up in order to maintain their employee base was spot on, but there's a part you might have forgotten: that it incentivizes people who are already troubled to join the organization. I just covered a recent news story out of Cincinnati of a guy studying to become a priest getting caught with a ton of child porn.
    On the one in a million chance you do read it, decide that it's not for you, could you ask David if he'd like to talk about it? I'll fully admit that very few people listen to my show, so if you're hoping for exposure, I can offer little. Admittedly it would greatly help my show to have such an honored guest, but you'll have to believe me when I say that it's not the main reason I'd like you on. I'm really fascinated by your experiences and I have a ton of questions.
    Thanks if you read this, and keep on truckin' Neal!

  • @hiphophistorycanada
    @hiphophistorycanada Před 7 měsíci +14

    His parents were sick and using Catholicism as they know it against him. You can't blame Catholicism.

    • @stu1037
      @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Oh yes you can. They were using it specifically as it was designed, to exhibit control over people through lies. Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey, "He said for you to give me your share."

    • @xavmiz3070
      @xavmiz3070 Před 7 měsíci +16

      Of course you can. And should. Perhaps do some research outside the church.

    • @hiphophistorycanada
      @hiphophistorycanada Před 7 měsíci

      @@xavmiz3070 You have been Heard.

    • @hiphophistorycanada
      @hiphophistorycanada Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@xavmiz3070 Perhaps do some research inside the church.

    • @necroriffmonger
      @necroriffmonger Před 7 měsíci +1

      but we can blame the catholic church for protecting all the kid fuckers aye. cos that's what they did & are still doing.

  • @jo-annfat-bricks2471
    @jo-annfat-bricks2471 Před 6 měsíci

    Nuns have Dark Habits.

  • @tanjabuchholz5314
    @tanjabuchholz5314 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Straight up child abuse. So sorry you both experienced this bullsh*t

  • @Nikkyeshiva83
    @Nikkyeshiva83 Před 6 měsíci

    Either every actor in Hollywood has the shame shrink or the guy that books this show is also a shrink. They all sing from the same quick hymn book 😂

  • @Metonymy1979
    @Metonymy1979 Před 7 měsíci

    Wait. Didn't he go to jail for beating his wife while intoxicated? Sounds like a Catholic to me

  • @slapadabass13
    @slapadabass13 Před 7 měsíci +29

    They hit the bullseye on Catholicism

    • @MJ23915
      @MJ23915 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Sounded like a bunch of complaining to me

    • @imwiththeunderhills2128
      @imwiththeunderhills2128 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MJ23915probably because youre in the cult and dont want to hear it

    • @imwiththeunderhills2128
      @imwiththeunderhills2128 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MJ23915They mentioned the word indoctrinated which, if you dont know the definition, youre probably on the page in the dictionary

    • @MJ23915
      @MJ23915 Před 2 měsíci

      @@imwiththeunderhills2128 It is simply ridiculous to call a religion that has been around for two thousand years a cult. There are over a billion people in the Church. You can choose to do whatever you want, but you do yourself and others a disservice when you blindly follow myths. I would encourage you to learn for yourself and make your own decision.

    • @imwiththeunderhills2128
      @imwiththeunderhills2128 Před 2 měsíci

      @@MJ23915 Im good. I’ll just live my life and die like anybody else. No need to live in fear or hope that I go to the right place. I’ll also just be a good person to people and respect others when warranted. A fictional book made by humans to control other humans doesnt need to tell me that. I’ll do me, and you do you. God bless!

  • @stu1037
    @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci

    Real estate for Jesus!

  • @stu1037
    @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci +5

    "Happy Birthday! Welcome to the world. What you are experiencing is called consciousness; it is essential to being a human being. By the way, you are a SINNER. That means you are evil, horrible, and when you die, you will burn in fire forever. It will be a pain that will never cease as you are tortured for eternity. You've never known existence until now, will only live maaayyybe 100 years on earth at most, and then you will burn in hellfire in exquisitely excruciating torture forever - billions upon trillions of years forever and ever and ever. BUT, I know a guy. He's the son of god. Well, he IS god, but he's also the son of god... don't ask. Anyway, he died for about 36-ish hours for your sins. All you have to do is accept him as your Savior and you can come to Heaven instead of Hell. In Heaven, all your family members that have died will be there, and it's blissful, and it's like rejoicing in church forever and ever. Like the Hell place, but no fire and torture. For infinity. Yes, based on your very short life on Earth. Just accept Jesus as your Savior from your life of sin (even if you never sin)."
    -"But I just got here. How can I be a sinner already?"
    "Because of Original Sin."
    -"Original Sin... how did I catch that?"
    "Oh, it wasn't you. It was this horrible woman (most women are). She was in a place that was practically Heaven. But she didn't like that her husband was happy, so she broke the only rule that god had set forth and got them kicked out of Heaven."
    -"Jesus kicked them out of Heaven?"
    "No, he wasn't Jesus yet, just his father god, The Lord. So that's Original Sin. Everyone has to pay for that apple that they ate."
    -"The only rule was not to eat an apple? Is that why everyone in movies that eats an apple is an a--hole?"
    "Not quite, it was from the Tree of Knowledge, and knowledge wasn't allowed. The point is that the woman sinned and everything is her fault. Now everyone is guilty of that sin until they accept Jesus as their savior."
    -"But you said he wasn't Jesus yet."
    "You're not listening. You're a sinner and the only way to avoid pain and torture for eternity is to accept that Jesus is your Savior."
    -"But I didn't eat an apple.... what is an apple anyway?"
    "It's a status symbol for people that like to think that they think differently. But that's not important right now. You're a sinner! Do you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior?!"
    -"I don't know man, this is all a lot to take in. I don't think I've done anything bad yet. I mean, I haven't even seen what an apple looks like. That.... what did you call it - Consciousness - seems pretty cool. I think I'm just going to go with that for a while."
    "But you're a sinner! You need to be saved! We need your tithing!"
    -"Tithing? What's that?"
    "That's where you give us money."
    -"What's money?"
    "Money is the root of all evil! But we need it for... uh.... real estate. Real Estate for Jesus!"
    -"How do I know all this is real?"
    "There's a great book. Well, it's kindof a collection of a lot of different books written in 3 different languages over hundreds and thousands of years. It's been translated many times and there are thousands of versions, and.... anyway, it's the Official Word of God. I'll get you a copy."
    -"And this is all so I can go to Heaven where I just sit in church forever?"
    "Yes!"
    -"I don't know. How about if I just don't eat any apples?"
    "That woman already ate the apple, so you have to pay for it."
    -"Unless I accept Jesus as my Savior?"
    "YES!"
    -"Can I have an apple first?"
    "There's a reallllly long line."

    • @buffyshillings3138
      @buffyshillings3138 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Sounds like a cultist. He’s right

    • @Nathan-gd7xq
      @Nathan-gd7xq Před 7 měsíci +4

      I ain't reading all that

    • @voodoochile4147
      @voodoochile4147 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Nathan-gd7xqyou should. It would be HILARIOUS if it wasn’t so accurate 😂/😢

    • @joecooper2200
      @joecooper2200 Před 6 měsíci +1

      This is gross. I can’t believe anyone would buy into this. Pathetic.

    • @voodoochile4147
      @voodoochile4147 Před 6 měsíci

      @@joecooper2200 ok, so imagine that you are sold this bill of goods before you have the capacity for critical thinking. Like say you were baptized in infancy. You might very readily accept that conditioning and have a hell of a time restructuring your way of thinking when you do find yourself. If you can see how someone can believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, it’s not a stretch to see how someone could buy into religious indoctrination. Especially since the threat of hellfire is used to actively discourage inquiry and criticism.

  • @Leafer55
    @Leafer55 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Wow, lot of butt hurt catholics in this comment section.

    • @gloriamariadc7757
      @gloriamariadc7757 Před 16 hodinami

      Lol.. more like butt-hurt cuz we weren’t damaged Catholics as kids u mean?..

  • @MrBobbyFreakout
    @MrBobbyFreakout Před 7 měsíci +2

    Whats the difference between a cult and a religion? In a religion the cult creator has died. An old sorta joke thats not mine that sums it up pretty well.

  • @curtbrooks7495
    @curtbrooks7495 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Whammy

  • @irsever
    @irsever Před 7 měsíci

    1:49 Neal's wallet seems to be exclusively $100 bills

  • @julimontfort5693
    @julimontfort5693 Před 6 měsíci +3

    It sucks he had this experience growing up, it sounds like his parents had some real problems. I’m Catholic and that wasn’t my experience. I’ve got 6 kids now though so maybe I’m indoctrinated lol. I will say, the abuse in the church is horrible and inexcusable. People who are predators are drawn to any position of authority, whether it’s as a cop, teacher, soccer coach or pastor. Doesn’t excuse the way it was handled but I don’t think it’s a straight line from being a priest to a pedophile. God bless all of the victims.

  • @thedudeabides3930
    @thedudeabides3930 Před 6 měsíci

    test

  • @tiediegymnasts920
    @tiediegymnasts920 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Im so glad my parents were not religious

  • @SCUBONZIES
    @SCUBONZIES Před 2 měsíci

    Scam ,🤰🤮

  • @DavidSmith-ss1cg
    @DavidSmith-ss1cg Před 6 měsíci

    After the Roman Empire had been going for a while, they needed something to keep the plebians in line, and Catholicism, with all it's head-fucks and weirdness, and the virgin birth and "Original Sin," came to be. The Roman Catholic faith was DESIGNED to be the Imperial religion for the Romans.
    To demonstrate how it works would take a REALLY long explanation, but you can follow the course of history and unhappiness pretty easily; just remember that it mixes very well with corruption, and that Islam is a reaction to it, and that covers the sordid, slimy path of history. It's too bad that those 2 religions had become global before there was a Reformation or a Renaissance. But most of the Bad news you see is signs that the neanderthals who are comfortable with religion are beating back the social progress that MILLIONS died for, and it's OK as long as we have Beer and Super Bowls.

    • @00TheD
      @00TheD Před 6 měsíci

      Hmm ...your not wrong about Roman catholicism, but you are wrong about neanderthals. And you should continue to examine history and keep digging for the truth.

  • @ShareeRedd
    @ShareeRedd Před 7 měsíci +8

    Why is he sooooo mad about religion 🤔

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The Catholic church is sitting on billions worth of stolen artifacts and Nazi gold, they systemically protect child abusers and fund dictatorships.
      There is a lot to get mad about.

    • @stuartross4540
      @stuartross4540 Před 7 měsíci +19

      Listen to the whole podcast

    • @cyborgzulu2011
      @cyborgzulu2011 Před 7 měsíci +18

      It is frustrating and messed up

    • @stu1037
      @stu1037 Před 7 měsíci

      Because they're all built on lies to exhibit control over people. Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey, "He said for you to give me your share."

    • @megyskermike
      @megyskermike Před 7 měsíci +23

      How about being abused or treated poorly his whole life by people in the church. You don't think that trauma affects you long term?

  • @KIDDINGKINDA
    @KIDDINGKINDA Před 6 měsíci

  • @jimmyjackfunk2003
    @jimmyjackfunk2003 Před 6 měsíci

    Now do the NYC tunnels w baby carriages and blood stained mattresses....just kidding. Of course you won't

  • @723taylorjharris
    @723taylorjharris Před 6 měsíci

    Hollywood really destroys the souls of people. These two dudes talk like they’ve had to be in therapy for 20 years and they can’t stop using therapy-speak to explain everything in their lives.