THE HUNT FOR BISMARCK #3 - A Historian Reacts
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The greatest Naval Story of WW2. Not because it was the best military actions, but because it just fits into a narrative so naturally.
Everyone likes a good story of tension, tragedy, and revenge
I would put this as second. I think first place goes to the last ship to ship naval battle in History. The Battle off Samar, October 25, 1944. Where 3 Fletcher class destroyers, 1/2 dozen destroyer escorts, and around 400 planes defeated the Japanese navy. Both are really great stories that should be made into movies.
@@charlessapp1835 I need to do more reading on the Pacific theater. Thank you for the recommendation
@@aj1218 Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors by James Hornfisher. Or any other of his books are good. Can get on Audible.
@@charlessapp1835 Purchased I have about 6 unused credits thank you for the recommendation.
Today marks 80 years since Bismarck’s sinking, what a moment
British Sailor: "We need to sink the Bismarck!"
Other British Sailor: "YEAH. NO SHIP!"
... I'll see myself out.
Took me a second...... I hate it and I love it.
See yourself to port Seaman
..... get out
I will always be impressed by what a Genius Lüthjens was. He knew the ships following were maneuvering in anti-uboat mode and knew when he can outsmart them. Also that he didn't wanna go for the kill but focused on his mission, sounds easier than it is
Oversimplified just released a new series on the Napoleonic wars, 100% would be a perfect source
EXACTLY!
Just what I was gonna say
''Hello, Bismarck? Is my son safe?''
''Not anymore...''
German Naval Officer: Fire on those aircraft trying to torpedo another ship!
The Ghost of Napoleon: No! No! Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
You mention how everything just happened so perfectly to create this great story. Now if the Bismarck had just had a WWII service like her sister the Tirpitz, and then Hollywood made a "What if" movie that played out EXACTLY how it played out in real history, the entire History community, (myself included), would berate this story as completely unbelievable. Sinking the Hood with a 1 in a million shot, the hitting the Bismarck with a torpedo that drove the rudder into one of the propellers. Just unbelievable. And yet it happened. Just goes to show that History is more bizzar than fiction.
I like that they depicted the Rodney correctly. She and her sister ship Nelson were the only two battleships built with three main turrets forward of the superstructure. This was done to reduce the amount of armor needed to protect the magazines.
While it's interesting to think that a single innocuous query doomed the Bismarck, there's one detail you overlooked:
Trying to find Bismarck in the Atlantic was very much "looking for a needle in a haystack" but much of the work at Bletchley Park was searching for a needle somewhere in the Great Plains! Germany had ±800 warships alone (including submarines), as well as ±1200 supply and transport vessels, all operating almost exclusively in the Atlantic Ocean - KMS Bismarck was but *ONE* among the ±2000 German ships in the Atlantic, most transmitting or receiving ±70 messages per day; literally ONE MILLION radio transmissions every week! Factor in land-to-land transmissions (a sizable chunk of which would reach Britain) and Bletchley Park easily overheard more than a million German radio transmissions per day, scattered among more than a dozen different encryption methods - including at least five known ENIGMA variants, each of which used some combination of 3-5 rotors selected from among 5-8 rotors available for any given machine.
Out of MILLIONS of radio transmissions using GOOGOLS of possible encryption keys, they just happened to stumble upon ONE message which HAPPENED to involve Bismarck for which they HAPPENED to have a valid decryption key for. Trying to calculate the precise odds of that happening is well above my ability, but I'd estimate it to be somewhere in the range of winning EVERY drawing of EVERY lottery game in the US for an ENTIRE YEAR!
Since you mention watching a blow by blow of Bismarck I'll reiterate that Montemayor's Battle of Midway is exactly that and a fantastic 2 hours.
I’m amazed by how much you know, just off hand. It’s like you’ve seen these before and are directly quoting the next upcoming scene before it ever plays.
Love the input, love the videos. Thanks.
The study of the "metadata" (the detail of information other than what is in the message itself) being used to track Bismarck is something worked on in Hut 6 of Bletchley park lead by Gordon Welchman. He wrote a book called "The Hut 6 story" in 1972, which ultimately ncost him his job with the NSA (he had gone to the US after the war), as he was deemed a security risk.
Seriously your one of if not the best historical reaction channel on CZcams. You actually add info to what's being discussed and even when you just talk about something you learned you somehow expand on it or at least talk about in a way that isn't just "I didn't know that. Cool." Seriously glad I discovered you back at like 10k subs. Even the videos I've seen I'll watch your reaction to cause I end up learning even more from you and it also helps to reinforce the knowledge obtained by watching it more than once. Don't ever stop doing these videos unless your health needs to come first. Wish you and your family all the best. And thank you for the awesome content!
History Channel's 'Dogfights' of all things do an episode on the Bismarck. It's pretty neat from memory
History Channel? You mean Pawn Stars?
@@NoBody-lj5xh No, there is a show called Dogfights (2006-08) on History Channel. Why would Pawn Stars do an episode on a battleship?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfights_(TV_series)
@@legiontrooper5014 I was trying to joke about how basically the only thing I see nowadays on The History Channel are shows like Pawn Stars or Ancient Aliens, I haven't seen them actually do something historical in years. Then again, I kinda stopped checking in after a while.
@@NoBody-lj5xh Ah I see. I thought it was strange for you to mention Pawn Stars. Haven't watched History Channel for the same reason so I guess we're in the same boat.
Heh. Boat.
These reactions are what got me back into history again, thank you!
Imagine being that father who unintentionally doomed his son by worrying about him
tbh I feel the blame falls on the officer who sent the message, unclosing the location of the ship was not needed, the father did not need to know where the ship was headed
The father isn't at fault at all. It would have been enough if the answer said "yes, everyone at the Bismarck is ok" but as the video showed it didn't stop there. It was completely unnecessary for the answer to tell the father that the Bismarck is going back to Brest. What is the father even supposed to do with that information?
Just prove the old saying "Loose lips sinks ships"
If his channel reaches out and came to be a television channel, I'd watch it 24hrs a day
This series is quickly becoming a highlight of my day. Thanks man
Love the reactions as well as Extra History! Thank you!
From the mist a ship a shape has taken form…
....And the silence of the sea is about to drift into a storm
@@zyronpido519 Sign of power
show of force
Raise the Anchor Battleship plotting its course
@@AjarTadpole7202 Pride of a nation a beast made of steal
Bismarck in motion king of the ocean
He was made to rule the waves across the seven seas
To lead the war machine
To rule the waves and lead the Kriegsmarine
The terror of the seas
The Bismarck and the Kriegsmarine
@@charlessapp1835 Two thousand men, and fifty thousand tons of steel
Set the course for the Atlantic with the Allies on their heel
This is one of my favorite series on youtube rn, thanks for posting!
This is, by far, my favorite Extra Credits series. The amount of things that go right or wrong in this event is insane. And all in the matter of hours
Oversimplified made a new video about Napoleon, two parts please react they are very good
I've already watched it like 3 times 1 of my favourite oversimplified vids
sir we have a napoleonic wars in oversimplified
Great stuff, love the reaction videos. And shout out to Extra History for making these things so good in the first place.
Really enjoying your reaction videos. Fun fact: the highest ranking survivor of the Bismarck (Burkard von Müllenheim-Rechberg) was our neighbor until he died in 2003. I still drive by his house every time I visit my parents...he also published a book about the sinking of the Bismarck, even though I have to confess I have never read it...crazy world
Cool. My uncle knew a WWII vet that shut Patton up! Apparently, Patton was blowing up a soldier and using some choice words. The Soldier replied, "You cuss just like my mother." Patton didn't have an answer! You never know how much fascinating History is surrounding you.
If you are looking for a documentary on the Bismarck, I highly recommend 'Expedition: Bismarck' by James Cameron. Absolutely my favourite documentary.
Yes! The ship is in surprisingly “great” shape (for being blasted to heck) and you can really see how the story unfolds by the shell impacts and what actually happened to the starboard rudder.
The book produced after the expedition is excellent....look up ISBN 10: 0340529768 ISBN 13: 9780340529768
Love it! I especially love the rudder in the propeller part.
Two more great documentaries on youtube shows a team exploring the wreck of the Hood. czcams.com/video/4_jDaUSSPhc/video.html (And I do mean wreck). And they discovered amongst the wreckage the bell of the Hood! They acquired permission from the UK government to raise the bell. The first attempt failed. But the second attempt seceded! And after they preserved the bell, one of the 3 Hood survivors was able to ring the bell! Decades after the Hood was sunk! czcams.com/video/jMohVNaeP6s/video.html
Yeah! People think “oh the torpedo jammed ‘the’ rudder.”
Well Bismarck has two rudders. The torpedo folded the starboard rudder INTO the center (of three) prop. The center shaft was jammed which caused her to drop in speed. The outer shafts could NOT be used to differential steer the ship. So many small design flaws and all it took was one very lucky hit to expose them.
When I studied history back in school, stories of battles fascinated me but barely manage to interest me.
As an adult now though... every historical story appears to only fill me with sadness. It doesn’t matter if they win or lose... everyone is simply dead...
yeah, there are so many small random events in history, that played a big role. just like franz ferdinand encounters gavrilo princip just by bad luck, and it creates both world wars.
well its now midnight in western australia..... i know the history..ive seen the original video yet I felt compelled to watch this video. Bravo sir
2:44 Bismarck actually out here pulling a boogeyman on this cruiser. "BOO".
Ark Royal history was very interesting,
Her bomber tried to contact a merchant ship, but at the last moment, the bomber pilot instinct triggered, and he ended up drop the messenger into the merchant ship funnel
She escaped many near miss hit, got declared as sunk by German many times, but she was the only carrier that torpedo itself
In the Hunt for Bismarck, Ark Royal got escorted by Battlecruiser HMS Renown, The first squadron almost sink HMS Sheffield, they came back and rearmed for the last chance to attack Bismarck... But none in both Ark Royal and Renown known that under the wave, U-556 were lurking them, U-556 saw the swordfishes launched out of the Ark Royal helplessly, without knowing that those swordfishes would end any chance to escape to Brest of the Bismarck. (a piece of information that many Bismarck discussion video missed)
Bismarck captain and U-556 captain were close friends as both ships were built side by side. U-556 had a chance to sink both Renown and Ark Royal that day except ... all the ship torpedo tubes were empty. And Royal Navy Lucky Ship escaped the death on that day without even knowing. U-556 shadowed the whole last battle with attempt to calling the others submarines for help till the captain had to order breaking out and return because of lack of supply to sail back.
Irony: the Royal Navy spotted U-556 and decided it was too risky to save Bismarck crews ...
Yesss!!! I was hoping this would come today
I couldn't wait for part 4 of your reaction, so I had to go to the source, which I guess is 50% of the point of your videos. Will watch your reaction when you put it, though, as you always add great bits of key info. 👍🏾
This has become my favorite CZcams channel
Hey! I know you talked about it in a video some months ago that you voted on what video you should react to. One of the options was the Great Northern War by Extra history, i know outside of nothern Europa its not so talked about but as a Swede myself its such a interesting event and the series is super well made. I hope you get the chance to react to it in the future! Love the content, Love from Sweden
i love yours videos, i´m fron Chile and love this hisotory stuff, but the way of you telling it if very fantastic. thanks for that :D
Wow Chile! The only part of your history I really know about is how Cochrane helped to free you from the Spanish Empire.
My grandfather was a communications (Morse Code) operator for the Army Airdrome on the Burma Road in WW2. I remember him always trying to teach my brother and I when he would come over and watch us before we had to get on the bus to go to school in the morning. I never realized it as a kid, but now as an adult, I am absolutely amazed that he still remembered everything that he did. He always loved talking about his skill, but he would never talk about the war.
Bismarck was sunk exactly 80 years ago today.
This series is brilliant
Happy Aniversery of Bismarck
Have you watched Jeremy Clarkson's The Greatest Raid Of All / The Raid At St. Nazaire documentary? That's one of the craziest stories I ever heard. It's a kinda continuation of this story since St. Nazaire's dock was the only one for a ship of Bismarck's or Tirpitz's size.
Yarn Hub recently did a video on that story. And Baz Battles has also done a great video on that story as well!
A reaction to Baz Battles would be perfect. Great video as always
Just watched the second one and then this came up, nice!
Great video! I also really enjoy your epic rap battles of history videos! I would like to suggest a rap battle called mother teresa vs sigmund freud I think there is a lot you could go into detail about in that one.
The decoding fingerprints goes back to telegraphs. Every telegraph operator had his own style. And an experienced ear could pick up on the signature. They’d often exchange messages in the prototype of textspeak. One theory is this is how “OK” originated. They also liked to mess around and do the “illiterate squirrel” meme. So one changed “all correct” to “oll korrekt”, then shortened it to “OK” and sent that. The abbreviation would be popularized by a politician using it in his campaign slogan
My thoughts are that I would like to see more Sabaton reactions after this series. Good stuff btw.
Intelligence was vital in any war and was shown in WWII. Especially for the hunt for Bismarck/German U-boats, D-Day and the Battle of Midway. By sending a uncoded message that Midway Island was out of "fresh water". They new Japan was going to attack Midway by code AF "is out of fresh water"
Man this serie of reaction is the best you've done (along side sabaton 🤘🏻), if you want to see a more detailed story of the Bismarck you have 2 choices: the first one is drachinifel video: a naval historiograph that has done THE most detailed version of the story, giving you the coordinates of the ships and the precise hour of every event... But in my opinion it isn't the most enjoyable to watch, for this I highly recommend you react to the one made by Animarchy: it gives you the same amount of information about the ships, even their background and specifications, but is also more "light" to watch and is FAR more emotional... Giving you all the historical information, busting some myths and also paying a huge tribute to both the ships and their crew in an emotional way, without compromise the accuracy and reality of the event... I really hope you will read this and consider it because I would really love to see your reaction to that video and hear your thoughts... Anyway sorry for the long comment and keep up the good work, see you in the next episode of hunting the Bismarck
The thing I remember reading about magnetic detonators is that they never seemed to work correctly. Especially the American's version. Oh, they'd work absolutely perfectly when tested in Hawaii. But then they'd get loaded onto an aircraft carrier and carried into the Pacific where, unbeknownst to them, the magnetic fields changed and therefore would mess up the calibration on the torpedoes. Crews would get duds and premature explosions whenever they tried to use them. Then they'd take the torpedoes back to Hawaii, say "These things are junk!", the ordnance department would test the detonators and go "Nuh uh, they work fine! You guys are just idiots." without realizing what the actual problem was. Crews wound up just disabling the things. It seems like the British had the same issue.
Could not find part 4. I had too go to a different video program in order to view the last section. Great video series.
This story can fit in cinema so easily
Oversimplified has done a Napoleonic wars video, id like to see your reaction to that :D
4:50 Good old over-penetration. The best friend of outclassed battle vehicles.
3:16 I noticed that the HMS Victorious had an angled flight deck here. That only was true after her massive refit in the 1950's long after WW2
Amazing that a man worrying about his son and the reply he got sealed the fate of Bismarck. "All aboard Bismarck are safe and headed for Brest, France". If the reply had been "All aboard Bismarck are safe and well" instead and mentioned nothing of where they were going, Bismarck might have escaped.
I do love BazBattles and other channels that offer tactical overview of notable conflicts.
"The Operations Room" series on the battle of Midway is also amazing. I recommend it.
This channel is so underrated..
Oversimplified just uploaded a video
Can you react to the Oversimplified Napoleonic wars? They just uploaded both parts today. Would love to see your take on it compared to the Epic History TV!
The catalinas that spotted the Bismarck were from RAF Castle Archdale, a base on Lough Erne in Northern Ireland, not far from where I live. The base played a crucial role in the war being the westernmost base the RAF had to patrol the North Atlantic with, and the only reason it was a viable base was due to the Irish government allowing British planes to use the Donegal air corridor due to their policy of benevolent neutrality. If the Irish government had decided not to let the British do this the base would not have been used and the Bismarck may well have escaped to France.
quentinjlt i saw that too GREAT EP.
Oversimplified Napoleon if wars reaction??
Should do a reaction on
Battle 360
Japanese Unit 731
Hood VS Bismarck
I would love a Battle 360 review! However, it is rather long.
Yooooo oversimplified made napoleonic wars part 1! Are you going to react to it
At about 15:30: that's the 1969 HMS Sheffield.
Fun fact, if you didn't know already. Wargaming (the sponsor of these videos) assisted in making the music video of Sabaton's song Bismarck :)
Yes ik that already when the song came up
Lol
The technical term is known as an operators "fist." And it was useful all over the place during world war 2.
Different Morse code operators style were known as their “fist.”
It really is insane to think about how human history rests on the smallest of things and the most simple and minute decisions. It's incredible how much could change if even one single person in power made a different decision.
React to Oversimplied newest video on the Napoleonic wars
Depiction of HMS Sheffield shows Type 42 destroyer Sheffield lost in the Falklands
It was also the fact that the British kept the Germans in the unknown about whether or not they had cracked the enigma code. They had to carefully pick and choose which information the allies would act on, so the Germans would not find out their code was cracked.
Heya, I'd like to learn more about 'classic' history (ww1/2, the Civil War, Apartheid, think large scale/significant events). What channels would you recommend?
New oversimplified video
part threeeeee lets goooooo
History was like: turn the table NOW!!!!
Also of highly significant importance: the sinking of the Prince of Wales, which really was the end of the Age of Battleships.
Absolutely true.
@@VloggingThroughHistory Not aware of any good videos on that, but I got confidence in you.
The swordfish attack was simply amazing. Here you have a dozen of these obsolete bi-planes made of fabric against 16 AA guns. The guns being heavy, medium, and light. Such an air defense that 2 of the planes retreated before they got close. Even with all surprise lost, they managed to score a hit on the Bismarck without losing a single plane. Some of the planes were hit over 100 times, and yet they kept flying.
I found a good video on it and why. I wouldn't recommend reacting to it, but it is fun to watch.
czcams.com/video/PTO3JagV8gE/video.html
Here is an interesting fact about the "obsolete" Swordfish. They sank more tonnage than any other British plane, served the entire war, and outlasted the plane to replace it.
@@charlessapp1835 I'm reminded of a simpsons episode where sideshow bob steals the first plane created, and the military tries to send jets after it. The jets didn't know how to handle it because it was too slow to attack. Anyway the claim is a bit debatable when compared to the Grumman avenger. It was still a fantastic plane, able to withstand a lot of punishment.
As far as I knew, the message intercepted was sent by the own Bismarck after Lutjens saw an emission on his own radar, which made him believe the British were still persecuting him.
Do like a reaction to some sort of Pacific battle or something I don't know if there's any but I'd be really neat
Here are 2 good videos by Potential History: czcams.com/video/SuSd5TfFOJk/video.html czcams.com/video/gYO3ZcA699s/video.html
Also, History Buffs has finally released his review on the 2019 Midway movie. Part 1 came out last week and part 2 should come out tomorrow
oversimplified Napoleonic wars is out
Oversimplified came out with Napoleon war!!
new OVERSIMPLIFIED video on the napoleonic wars
You should watch Extra History's South Sea Bubble series.
“This guys dashes are a lot faster than the last message, and he puts his dots in a steady rhythm instead of haphazardly like the first couple messages.”
Totally made up of course, but I mean it sounds like they are down to looking at every piece of info this closely, after every tiny last little bit of information they can get. Crazy.
ah, yes. I'd like to see some reactions to bazzbatlles videos. they're one of my favorite channels on youtube, especially when it comes to medieval history.
People have already commented about oversimplified sooo i hope you have a good day
my grandad was on board the Rodney. he said it was a horrid ship and it was really outdated a fact that couldn't have been helped by the fact that basically every time it went to be refitted it got called away.
Rodney was under way to be refitted when she got called back for Bismarck hunt ... And her class was crippled by the naval treaty
However, Battleship Rodney was the most fearsome weapon the Royal Navy can throw to face the Bismarck. One of her shell gazed the Bismarck turret (turret B if i remember right), The shockwave killed everyone inside the turret
The CZcams Channel Historigraph also makes great videos on some naval battles like Jutland.
raid on st nazaire st nazaire had the only drydock that could repair the ships bismarck and tirpitz
Are you gonna react to Oversimplified's videos about the napoleonic wars?
M8 oversimplified posted a new video
I still wonder what would have happen if those planes sticked to their attack runs. 4:07
Are you going to make a video about the napoleonic wars by oversimplified or was the videos you reacted to a few weeks ago enough napoleon for you
Yep
Will you react to the Napoleonic Wars of Oversimplefied, I'm anxious to see your reaction of this video.
Information (or even data points that can be compiled into information) are so critical that the whole UK was plastered with warnings that "The walls have ears" and "Careless talk costs lives" and others to the same effect.
This despite the fact that the Axis failed to run a single successful spying operation in the UK throughout WW2. We could not be certain of that, and even things that a simple reconnaissance flight would have seen were not spoken about even locally. And in Opsec, it may seem like additional red tape, but most messages were vetted before transmission and redacted or altered if necessary - in this case, the simple substitution of "Port" for Brest" would have left the ambiguity in place and not tipped the hand.
20/20 hindsight is easy, I know, but one major breakthrough on codebreaking at Bletchley Park was German radio operators routinely calling in "Nothing to report". If you know the message ahead of time, and the cyphertext matches it for length, you can find the key with simple (to Cambridge maths fellows) mathematics. Of course, you still need the Bombs (and later, Colossi) to cope with the volume, and a team of German translators and intelligence analysts to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
Above the level of Brigadier, the two most important things for a military officer are logistics and information.
On the one hand, all these little coincidences help the allies win, on the other the Bismarck never stood a chance. History is interesting
New to the channel & absolutely love your content! If I may, from one history grad to another, I highly recommend Mark Felton's CZcams channels. His content is absolutely first class & would make for some fab reactions!