The Korean War: The Proxy War That Nearly Sparked World War III

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2023
  • Discover the gripping history of the Korean War's outbreak in 1950. Witness the strategic maneuvers, intervention, and near-nuclear escalation that defined this conflict. Uncover the untold story now!
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Komentáře • 541

  • @seanbinkley7363
    @seanbinkley7363 Před 9 měsíci +935

    In the Korean War Museum in Seoul there is a message on the wall that marks the entrance to the UN intervention force section of the facility. It reads "Our nation honors her sons and daughters who answered the call to defend a country they never knew and a people they never met." That message was incredibly moving to me the first time I saw it and it's still one the most impactful messages I think I've ever seen in a museum like that. What makes it stand out for me is that they used the term "her sons and daughters" as opposed to "the sons and daughters of other nations" or something similar. It shows that any non-Korean that came to defend South Korea from the DPRK is regarded as a son or daughter of that nation.

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 Před 9 měsíci +89

      My grandfather, an American, traded letters with a Korean comrade he fought with in the war for about 20 years.

    • @RAS_Squints
      @RAS_Squints Před 9 měsíci +74

      Same message is at the Korean War Memorial in DC with a second message ways, "Freedom is Not Free". I know that is true because if the US didn't go into Korea in the 50s, I would not be here typing this right now.

    • @baahcusegamer4530
      @baahcusegamer4530 Před 9 měsíci +32

      I have been to that museum. It is a beautiful, solemn memorial to “The Forgotten War”. The heights to which the RoK has climbed makes the painful war one of the most worthwhile conflicts the US and so many other nations engaged in. The freedom of millions was bought by the mingled, shed blood of many many thousands. May South Korea remain forever free.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 Před 9 měsíci +13

      My family is Korean on both sides and lived through the war. They are certainly grateful to those foreign soldiers who aided the country in its time of need.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 Před 9 měsíci +9

      ​@@RAS_Squintssame. Son of two Korean immigrants who both came to America in the 1970s.

  • @jgreg3596
    @jgreg3596 Před 9 měsíci +374

    Probably one of the most significant wars that almost nobody talks about

    • @jessicalacasse6205
      @jessicalacasse6205 Před 9 měsíci +12

      plus china vs usa is kinda in fashion right now , so i always taught it was weird no big movie was ever done on it ...

    • @seanosborn3272
      @seanosborn3272 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@jessicalacasse6205no way there would be a movie about Korea. Most big films either have some Chinese money behind it like midway, or they have to be screened to do welll in China since they’re the second biggest market.

    • @marktg98
      @marktg98 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@seanosborn3272Second? They are THE biggest market by far. China has 5 times the population of the US, and the fastest growing middle class in the world. You'd have to cater to the entire Western world to match the number of potential customers/buyers you can get by simply catering to China.

    • @jessicalacasse6205
      @jessicalacasse6205 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@seanosborn3272 even before it was this conflict always was a bit taboo

    • @PerfectSense77
      @PerfectSense77 Před 9 měsíci

      People definitely talk about it.

  • @rejvaik00
    @rejvaik00 Před 9 měsíci +213

    Having been to S. Korea many times the people there are very much eternally grateful to the UN coalition forces but even also the Americans especially who defended the nation in its hour of need
    There's both a very somber feeling combined with a sense of pride if you ever go to visit the Korean war museum in Seoul which I highly recommend that you do

  • @daehr9399
    @daehr9399 Před 9 měsíci +139

    My grandfather was a combat medic during Korea. Stationed in Chorwon in the North. He was able to return to Seoul in 2003, during 50th Anniversary. I think it gave him closure. The last time he saw Seoul it was mud, blood, and fire. 50 years later, it's a mega city. I think he always felt it was worthless to have fought until he returned and saw the impact his service had on ROK. But the thing that really touched him was seeing school girls on their way to school, happy, pristine uniforms, well fed, content. That is what made him realize his service, the pain, the death, was worth it. It is funny how it impacts generations. His son became a military historian and his daughter ended up living in Seoul for several years. I myself taught ESL in Seoul while in college. I keep his uniform preserved and his cap on display, as well as his Anniversary hat. It has the American and ROK flag on it and reads: "50th Anniversary - We Remember". Haunting. Thank you for this video Simon...it means a lot. It means a lot to people like me. So thank you.

    • @hoetakeawalk
      @hoetakeawalk Před 9 měsíci +5

      God bless America

    • @christophergallagher3845
      @christophergallagher3845 Před 9 měsíci

      Sometimes wars need to be fought , this was one of them . All the modern wars are a scandal

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Why did DPRK let him go? A prisoner exchange?

    • @surfingbrrrd
      @surfingbrrrd Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@gorilladisco9108he wasn't a prisoner, he was an American soldier stationed in an American base in what is now North Korea. I was confused at first too cause the comment at first makes it seem like he was a Korean soldier, but reread it and it makes more sense. Especially the ESL teaching and all that. He probably only returned to Seoul after 50 years because of personal reasons, not like he was restricted (which if he was a NK prisoner he'd obviously be)

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@surfingbrrrd Aha. You are right. 😯Thank you. 🤓

  • @liamreich8486
    @liamreich8486 Před 9 měsíci +81

    My Grandfather went to Korea as a Major in the New Zealand army. He raised me and never talked about it. Not until his deathbed and his mind started to fail that is... I do remember asking him as a silly kid why he went to war? He said 'Because it was the right thing to do'

    • @raptor1672
      @raptor1672 Před 9 měsíci

      @@lik-zf5xx Wait you idolise a child fucker? That's weird.......

    • @hoetakeawalk
      @hoetakeawalk Před 9 měsíci +4

      God bless freedom

  • @gp-1542
    @gp-1542 Před 9 měsíci +65

    It’s wild how despite the two side went back and forth, capturing both capitals and nearly destroyed each other
    Only to be back to square one

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 Před 9 měsíci +1

      They didnt come back to square one. The South Koreans succesfully held of their commie invaders.

  • @sockpuddles
    @sockpuddles Před 9 měsíci +40

    My Grandfather fought in this "conflict". Heard many stories about how the Chinese had more people than guns.😮

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 Před 9 měsíci +49

    When the Korean war broke out. My patriotic grandfather who was a liutenant, was estatic. He originally expected to be leading troops in Korea. However, the military decided to station him to Okinawa instead letting him lead troops in Korea for the whole duration of the war. My grandpa was naturally disappointed until sometime after the war he met veterans who were scarred from the war. He came to the realization that he was lucky from being sparred combat experience but he was always appreciative for his fellow soldiers who fought in his place. He always credited them for saving his life from either possible death or PTSD.

  • @IamKingSleezy
    @IamKingSleezy Před 9 měsíci +42

    My Grandpa was a Naval AA Gunner on the USS Wisconsin when he got word of the war and he immediately sacrificed rank and joined the Marines to go fight in it, a poor boy from West Virginia, he was just looking for money to send home and the Marines got paid more than AA Gunners on a ship. Was there most of the war, stood on the Yalu River, and somehow came out alive. He never talked about it much, though I understand why. I miss that man very much.

    • @daehr9399
      @daehr9399 Před 4 měsíci

      Bless your grandfather. Imagine - one of the few people ever to stand on the banks of the Yalu in wartime

  • @KariHaruka
    @KariHaruka Před 9 měsíci +60

    The Korean War is a war that I've always been fascinated by.
    My Grandfather was a part of the British Royal Marines 41 (Independent) Commando unit that participated in amphibious raids across the North Korean coastline, taking out railroad tracks, damaging vital North Korean supply lines. His unit then participated in the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. For which, we have his US Presidential Citation proudly on display in my Grandmother's home.
    My Grandfather sadly passed away when I was 6 years old. And the memories of the Korean War, he took to his grave. He never once spoke of the war to anyone, not even to my Grandmother.
    But I have done my research on the war and I've read a book that was written by a fellow Royal Marine who served alongside him, and I am immensely proud of him.
    I have also been to Korea, and I've visited the DMZ, the War Memorial Museum in Seoul and also the UN Memorial Cemetery in Busan, and those visits have always made me think of my Grandfather and those who fought alongside him, but weren't able to return home.

    • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
      @dtaylor10chuckufarle Před 9 měsíci +9

      Your Grandfather was a badass, no doubt about it. And the battle of the Chosin Reservoir... well, it's no wonder he never spoke of it.

    • @harambesrevenge3743
      @harambesrevenge3743 Před 5 měsíci

      I bet your grandfather would cry if he saw what happen to your “country”

    • @daehr9399
      @daehr9399 Před 4 měsíci

      A colleague of mine, his grandfather was also at Chosin Reservoir - USMC. Apparently he never spoke of it much either, but was awarded the Navy Cross.

  • @goncalolima2923
    @goncalolima2923 Před 9 měsíci +79

    It’s sad that the Korean War doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves, just getting overshadowed by Vietnam

    • @Theshropshireratter
      @Theshropshireratter Před 9 měsíci +10

      Agreed also the north Korean army doesn't get as much credit as they deserve as the early offensive nearly won the war

    • @falconeshield
      @falconeshield Před 9 měsíci +6

      The whole point of the first Rambo novel (First Blood) was that the sheriff and patrol goons that mock Rambo and make him go into guerrilla mode (like the infamous shower scene) were Korean War veterans whom were pissed Nam soilders eclipsed them in relevancy and public memory. To this day the Korean War is practically forgotten.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Interestingly the S. Koreans were eager to join the Americans for their service in defending their nation in the Vietnam campaign and they were some of the fiercest units the Viet Cong and NVA encountered earning them quite the battle hardened reputation

    • @nigeh5326
      @nigeh5326 Před 9 měsíci

      Because Vietnam was the first tv war and young people were starting to say no to being sent by old men to fight wars, especially wars to defend governments that were corrupt and unpopular in their own countries as in South Vietnam.

    • @DauthEldrvaria
      @DauthEldrvaria Před 9 měsíci

      @@TheshropshireratterNo it’s because they are the bad guys so no one cares.

  • @robeylemere
    @robeylemere Před 9 měsíci +112

    My grandpa and great uncle fought in Korea and the photographs my grandpa took (army engineer) were beautiful and haunting. Korea is a truely beautiful country and it would have been a shame to be irradiated. Americans need to do better about remembering our history and the sacrifices it’s brave sons and daughters made and continue to make.

    • @bmyers7078
      @bmyers7078 Před 9 měsíci

      @lik-zf5xx: Have you thought about reading “The Book of Mormon” by Joseph Smith (1830).
      You might like it.

    • @mvpdjg4965
      @mvpdjg4965 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think you are confusing Japan with korea

    • @bman6065
      @bman6065 Před 9 měsíci +3

      ​@lik-zf5xxwrong page buddy

    • @bman6065
      @bman6065 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The reason Korea isn't well known was because it was fighting for future freedom. If you dig into it it's not a feel good story. We bombed a lot of civilians for a state that was pretty much autocratic at the time. But it is an incredible story. We haven't had a war quite like that since. At least not America.

    • @robeylemere
      @robeylemere Před 9 měsíci +1

      @lik-zf5xx Jesus is the the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him. John 14:6

  • @jacksontaylor290
    @jacksontaylor290 Před 9 měsíci +16

    I was blessed with the opportunity to study Korean at Yonsei University in Seoul for 2 months this past summer! The Korean War Memorial is fascinating, I visited it three times! I highly recommend it to anyone visiting Seoul!

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 Před 9 měsíci +53

    2:20 - Chapter 1 - Forging a new korea
    6:25 - Chapter 2 - Heavy losses
    11:30 - Chapter 3 - China enters the war
    16:10 - Chapter 4 - Negotations & the ongoing conflict
    18:15 - Chapter 5 - What could have been

    • @lutonnationalist
      @lutonnationalist Před 9 měsíci

      Didnt a 51 year old muhammed have sex with a 9year old girl call ayesha. Prophet my ass.

    • @DENVEROUTDOORMAN
      @DENVEROUTDOORMAN Před 8 měsíci

      We don't need STUPID TIMESTAMPS

  • @sirhenrymorgan1187
    @sirhenrymorgan1187 Před 9 měsíci +43

    My grandmother was born March 19, 1945; a few months before Korean independence from Japan. Her family was living in North Korea when the KPA invaded the South on June 25, 1950. They fled during the war and eventually wound up in Seoul. My grandmother has many stories about growing up there and the fear that the war could restart at any time.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 Před 9 měsíci +3

      My dad was born December 19, 1947. He has never talked about what he experienced.

    • @leanhoven
      @leanhoven Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@vic5015he was too young

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Před 9 měsíci +35

    I had three great-uncles that fought in the Korean War.Two in the Army and one in the Marine Corps.

    • @heliosophist334
      @heliosophist334 Před 9 měsíci

      @lik-zf5xx 🤣🤣 Bruh...what are you smoking?

  • @dictatorofthecheese
    @dictatorofthecheese Před 9 měsíci +62

    My dads dad was some of the pilots that regularly dropped napalm on the north Koreans and Chinese. Before he passed in 2019, he said he'll never forget what he did and he has no remorse for it. My dads dad was a pretty ruthless person. Especially once he became an ultra successful buisnessman in his later years. But in his later later years he chilled out. He loved his grand kids, and loved seeing family. Unfortunately in 2019, he took his own life. No one knows why, but I sometimes wonder if behind his persona of steel, I wonder if deep down he hid his PTSD from the war, and his regret for what he did. He never was one to ask for help or show weakness. Only strength at all times. He had a lot of trauma outside of the war. So there's a lot of chances for him to be shattered inside. Remember, folks, if you're struggling, seek help. Don't hold it all in to where it collapses on top of you. It's okay to cry. It's okay to show weakness. I wonder if my grandpa would still be alive if he had sought help.

    • @stevenbaksh5545
      @stevenbaksh5545 Před 9 měsíci

      I heard that killed a lot of innocent people North Koreans had to live in caves to escape the bombing

    • @leanhoven
      @leanhoven Před 9 měsíci

      Are you adopted? "My dad's dad"

    • @DauthEldrvaria
      @DauthEldrvaria Před 9 měsíci

      Don’t speak for dad

    • @christophereichten9005
      @christophereichten9005 Před 9 měsíci

      @@DauthEldrvariabe quiet you ghoul

    • @surfingbrrrd
      @surfingbrrrd Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@leanhovenmaybe a step dad he considers his "real dad" or his real dads step dad or adopted father. Or maybe just a weird way of him trying to say "my grandfather on my dads side" lmao😂

  • @Tirani2
    @Tirani2 Před 9 měsíci +5

    One of my grandfathers fought in Korea. After the war, he worked at Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Maryland, perfecting non nuclear weapons. He hoped that by making those weapons, nuclear ones would never be used. My other grandfather was in the Navy during the end of World War II. He was also at Bikini Atol during nuclear testing there. After he left the Navy, he was a staunch proponent against nuclear war.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Před 8 měsíci +4

    My grandfather isn't from the US but he did serve in the Korean War as an artillery mechanic. Grandma even has pics and documents. He passed away some time ago so sadly I can't get many personal stories of his. The two met shortly after the war

  • @MrClyff_
    @MrClyff_ Před 9 měsíci +10

    I'd love a video breaking down Chinese involvement in the war, Specifically the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir

  • @buckn5
    @buckn5 Před 9 měsíci +7

    There is a book series where the korean war lead to not only a nuclear exchange between the us and soviets, but a full world war 3.
    It is called the hot war by harry turttledove.

  • @tyler1107
    @tyler1107 Před 9 měsíci +5

    It's worth noting that a nuclear war in the 50s wouldn't have been the global catastrophe we imagine with nuclear war. Push into the 70s and beyond and you have that. The 50s mostly saw relatively low yield, aircraft-borne bombs
    Now, very notably, it would have been incredibly destructive, many times more destructive than ww2, but nowhere near the apocalyptic levels of modern nuclear war. It would be like the difference in destruction of ww1 vs ww2.

    • @F1pidis
      @F1pidis Před 8 měsíci +1

      Exactly, excluding the somewhat high levels of radiation, the destruction wouldn't have been that different in scale. North Korea was carpet bombed back to the middle ages and never recovered from that....

  • @andrewpeterson549
    @andrewpeterson549 Před 9 měsíci +9

    The firebombing of Tokyo resulted in far more casualties then either one of the atomic bombings

  • @mattywanders
    @mattywanders Před 9 měsíci +45

    I like puppies and Warographics!

    • @badluck5647
      @badluck5647 Před 9 měsíci +2

      My grandfather's unit in the war adopted a dog named "Spare parts."
      They had to make sure the poor farmers weren't going to eat him.

    • @michaelhowell2326
      @michaelhowell2326 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah, ok. I can get behind this.

    • @ShortWarehouse
      @ShortWarehouse Před měsícem

      @@badluck5647yt comment section always delivers lol

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk Před 9 měsíci +5

    One of my grandfathers fought in Korea...he refused to talk about it. From what little I could gather, he became furious with conditions there (for the US side, for the Koreans, I'm not sure which) and even in the 1980s was still extremely angry about the entire war and anything to do with it.

  • @daehr9399
    @daehr9399 Před 9 měsíci +8

    I feel that this needs to be shared simply because it was a forgotten conflict in the West. By sharing this it makes it immortal as it is forever somewhere online. My grandfather was in Korea and one day driving a Jeep to a field hospital. Doing his rounds. DPRK soldiers were on a mountain nearby where UN forces had simply blocked paths off the mountain, as fighting an uphill battle is bad. The DPRK soldiers fired on him with a mortar but missed, and he swerved left. They fired again and he swerved right, almost got him. He realized they were sighting him in, so he floored it, and the last mortar hit a bit behind the Jeep. Thankfully he was OK. Must have gotten the adrenaline pumping.

  • @KW-qd1bi
    @KW-qd1bi Před 9 měsíci +1

    I've been waiting for this channel to cover this topic

  • @TimSedai
    @TimSedai Před 9 měsíci +6

    My grandfather fought in Korea. Did NOT like talking about it. He died in 2000

  • @jeremymcfarlin1945
    @jeremymcfarlin1945 Před 9 měsíci +18

    My grandfather fought in this conflict. He never talked about it

    • @gugman9684
      @gugman9684 Před 9 měsíci

      @@lik-zf5xx What a load of bullshit.

  • @brettolson2727
    @brettolson2727 Před 9 měsíci +4

    My grandpa was with the 1st Marine Division in Korea. Was a mortar team leader there from 52-53.

  • @moosifer9680
    @moosifer9680 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent work as always.

  • @dcjway
    @dcjway Před 9 měsíci +8

    My father was a Marine with the 3/11 mobile artillery all during 1951. Semper Fi.

  • @ianblake815
    @ianblake815 Před 9 měsíci

    I love learning about this!

  • @michaelkilliany1472
    @michaelkilliany1472 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Just a small nitpick, but any conflict that included nuclear warfare technically counts as a nuclear war and thus WWII was the first nuclear war. In the future WWIII will probably be referred to as the 2nd nuclear war

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Před 9 měsíci

      Nah, since only one side used nukes in WW2 therefore nobody has ever called it a nuclear war. When both sides use them, then it becomes one

  • @MMOchAForPrez
    @MMOchAForPrez Před 9 měsíci +7

    I just rewatched your Biographics video on Truman, now you guys release this!!? Awesome timing

  • @deanbibb3680
    @deanbibb3680 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This was the war my father and uncles served in. It needs more light shine upon it.

  • @koenbax3221
    @koenbax3221 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I LOVED the part about the development of nuclear ideology in the aftermath of ww2 during this conflict. Absolutely amazing and eye opening content.

  • @VVitya
    @VVitya Před 9 měsíci

    He guys..what about a vid about Monte Casino? Thanks for your amazing content! Take care

  • @terryenby2304
    @terryenby2304 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I requested this conflict ages ago, thank you so much for covering it! It was way more complex than I had realised!

  • @michaelmaccini
    @michaelmaccini Před 8 měsíci

    Truly excellent!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Love this channel Simon! Thanks For all your hard work🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

  • @necromora666
    @necromora666 Před 9 měsíci

    A few days ago I was going through your channels using the channel tab. I noticed Warographics wasn't listed as part of it on your other channels but the rest appear under the channel tab on here. Thought you may wanna know if you hadn't noticed

  • @Mike-hu3pp
    @Mike-hu3pp Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks Simon for another bipartisan view on a historical event!!

    • @Mike-hu3pp
      @Mike-hu3pp Před 9 měsíci

      Edit: And your writing staff!!!

  • @jasonleman1396
    @jasonleman1396 Před 9 měsíci +8

    My great Uncle fought in WW@2 and the Korean war (I had no idea until I saw his grave marker that had it on it).

    • @RobertBrown-wm9ob
      @RobertBrown-wm9ob Před 15 dny

      That's very typical of that generation my father was in World War II and Korea Frontline Soldier.
      Several times in my life I heard Vietnam veterans bragging to him about what they did in Vietnam he sat there and never said a word about his experiences.
      Afterwards he told me when you hear someone bragging about what they've done in a war they were not really there a bunch of wannabes.
      Most people never even knew he was in the Army until he died

  • @giovanniderop5309
    @giovanniderop5309 Před 5 měsíci

    Epic ending of this series!! Can’t wait for more…!

  • @Schneids1216
    @Schneids1216 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks for defending my favorite general with the explanation to his strategy

  • @Jigsawn2
    @Jigsawn2 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for this concise summary of a conflict us Brits aren't really taught about much

  • @ryanduffy5301
    @ryanduffy5301 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Imagine in an alternate timeline, 5 years after the end of world War 2, world War 3 begins..

    • @TheMilpitasguy
      @TheMilpitasguy Před 9 měsíci

      It was a war that Russia would have lost. They had at most 2-3 warheads and no missile delivery systems for them. The US had far more nukes and could have leveled Russia and China with ease, in spite of the communist edge in army manpower. Had the US done so, it would be a different world today, that's for sure. No Cold War, no Vietnam War, with the US solidly under control.

    • @TheMilpitasguy
      @TheMilpitasguy Před 9 měsíci

      At the time of the 1956 Suez crisis, Russia's nuclear arsenal was still pretty pathetic.

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Australia was in command of Britain, Canada, New Zealand and India in the Korean War. It’s forces first saw combat on 2nd July 1953, three days before US troops and five days before MacArthur was given command.

    • @Darkstar_Dayne
      @Darkstar_Dayne Před 6 dny

      India did not participate in the far, they only offered medical assistance

  • @dante6276
    @dante6276 Před 9 měsíci

    Love your videos man all your channels

  • @badluck5647
    @badluck5647 Před 9 měsíci +9

    My grandfather's unit in the war adopted a dog named "Spare parts."
    They had to make sure the poor farmers weren't going to eat him.

  • @ScentlessSun
    @ScentlessSun Před 9 měsíci +2

    Although morally dubious, I believe General Douglas MacArthur’s logic was correct. The USSR would not have wanted to go to direct war with United States even if nuclear weapons were used a second time. The Soviets were not suicidal. Stalin knew that both the United States and the USSR would destroy themselves if they fought each other. One massive variable remains, what would China have done? The prospect of nuclear weapons wiping out his military is not something Mao would have wanted. Russia seized upper Manchuria from China in 1900. If Mao’s military were crippled he would not be able adequately maintain territorial sovereignty if Russia were to pursue taking more territory at an opportune time.
    I’m not saying I want or wish history went this way, but this is my opinion on what MacArthur wanted to do.

    • @nolongerblocked6210
      @nolongerblocked6210 Před 9 měsíci

      Another factor is Russia only had 3-4 nukes total until '52-53. So they couldn't have really fought much of a nuclear war

  • @WaywardVet
    @WaywardVet Před 9 měsíci +1

    I probably would had agreed with McArthur at the time. So I'm glad your writer pointed out we have the gift of hindsight.

    • @wolfsmoke6053
      @wolfsmoke6053 Před 9 měsíci

      Yeah because things have turned out so well without using them...

    • @WaywardVet
      @WaywardVet Před 9 měsíci

      @wolfsmoke6053 Pretty sure we came out OK in the 1776 dispute.

  • @Rorgash
    @Rorgash Před 9 měsíci +3

    I have to say, Factboi´s watch collection is crazy :P must be doing amazing with all his channels

  • @user-oz8ye9ip5s
    @user-oz8ye9ip5s Před 9 měsíci

    To Simon,
    Thanks for your VOD.
    But there are a few things that I need to address to this clip on behalf of the 15th Rok president in the Blue house. Some youtubers may dispute " the Blue House " factor when I reply because the acting president of south korea relocated to Yongsan office. However, I believe the Blue House is where the acting one was supposed to stay in because their government organization act has not passed since May 2022.
    When we are talking about south korea in general, we are not talking about the Republic of korea because DMZ actually divides two of its autonomous provinces called "Gyeonggi and Gangwon province" along the 155miles long fence. Which means some small fraction of those provinces are under north korean territory currently. I mean on the northern side of DMZ line. Therefore, south korea could mean north korea practically when we include those two areas in the north side. If we say north korea, for it is relative concept depending on where to count on, DPRK could only mean those two small parts belong to south korea while the rest may fall onto ccp or kremlin. So this is little bit complicate situation. I do not mean to say "refrain from using north korea or south korea." I just want to make sure what the DMZ reality is in the area.
    Secondly, Martial Duglas Macather may had requested to use that bomb on chinese territory which was once belonged to russia. Of course those nameless and rankless ccp gurrilars deserve to face such critical measures during that crises in the north east asia. Whose war.crime conducts will be concluded as DMZ situation either be resolved or escalates a bit. I think we are missing that point on this vod. Sino comedians along with north korean leader committed the worst crime of agression by weapons from russia. May they claim such was an attempt to unify the penisula which was publicized by a north korean spy professor in 2005. They called it was korean internal business for unification in 1950. If that was done by such base maybe the next round be another internal business for reunification too on behalf of the 15th Rok President in the Blue house. I don't know. They were using russian weapons and sino comedians for korean internal matter... How ridiculing situation is indeed.
    Anyway thank you again for your good work.😊

  • @indygeo4267
    @indygeo4267 Před 4 měsíci

    The topic of the Korean war actually fascinates me more than the conflict that proceeded it. That conflict being the Vietnam war of course.

  • @broccanmacronain457
    @broccanmacronain457 Před 9 měsíci +3

    My sub visited South Korea in the 80's. I was by the venom the South Koreans have for the North. We also got to scramble the sub, (we left several people on shore when they did not get back in time) when the North Koreans had several missile boats across the 38th. We came back the next day and picked up our crewmembers and cut our shore stay short as then we headed north. We all had a lovely time in Korea and believed we made some friends there. The South Koreans are a wonderful people.

  • @trli7117
    @trli7117 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Really, /really/ glossed over chinese loses during that first push Simon's writer.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes Před 9 měsíci

      They suffered heavy casualties but they still pushed the UN forces all the way back to South Korea and recaptured Seoul.

    • @trli7117
      @trli7117 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @huntersmith761 Right, after the order was given not to escalate the war and they fell back. That's kinda the whole point of the video isn't it?
      But the losses on both sides should have numbers put to them of you want to convey the full story.

  • @carlschildtknecht762
    @carlschildtknecht762 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for getting rid of that obnoxious pink light.

  • @jacobreed3684
    @jacobreed3684 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fun fact. This was before icbms you still had to use bomber also the us and the upper hand as they had in 1950 450 nukes where the Soviets only had 20.

  • @kbonh22
    @kbonh22 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Overshadowed by WW2 and then Vietnam. This was the most dangerous conflict in history.

  • @eaphantom9214
    @eaphantom9214 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bruce Willis would love playing as Douglas MCcarthur, they are Doppelgangers after all!

    • @bowenc24
      @bowenc24 Před 9 měsíci +1

      That’s actually a great casting choice for MacArthur! It’s a shame with Willis’s medical problems we won’t get to see it.

    • @eaphantom9214
      @eaphantom9214 Před 9 měsíci

      ​​​@@bowenc24
      A nuke explodes in the distance ...
      Douglas Macarthur : Yippe Kay-eh motherfucker! 😂😂
      (Die Hard 2) I think

  • @dartdude4084
    @dartdude4084 Před 9 měsíci +1

    My grandfather fought in Korea with the 1-87IN Rakasan

    • @dartdude4084
      @dartdude4084 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @lik-zf5xx thanks but no thanks

  • @johnjeong828
    @johnjeong828 Před 4 měsíci

    Interesting fact about the 3 Gorges Dam: this structure slowed down the rotation of Earth by itself

  • @wedtrttyt
    @wedtrttyt Před 9 měsíci +1

    Settings -> playback speed -> 0.75X.

  • @AKS-74U
    @AKS-74U Před 9 měsíci +1

    We need a Korean War video game that's along the lines of Battlefield 1 with WW1. That game, even with creative liberties, educated a lot of people about that war.
    Too many people have a weird obsession with Vietnam and the KW is always forgotten.

  • @alex4863
    @alex4863 Před 9 měsíci +4

    The Forgotten War is no longer forgotten.

  • @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith
    @Dark-Lord-Of-The-Sith Před 9 měsíci +1

    I had an Uncle who was a Sergeant in the 1st Marines who fought in that War from the day we landed. He told me that it was Hell.

  • @davids2314
    @davids2314 Před 9 měsíci

    just a request we need more info on the korean war we all know about ww1 and 2 veitnam and other wars but little is known about the korean war

  • @soldierbreed
    @soldierbreed Před 7 měsíci

    Wait like that MacArthur? I never knew that.

  • @agpc0529
    @agpc0529 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Truman is an underrated President

  • @stevenbaksh5545
    @stevenbaksh5545 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I think its important to mention that they were border skirmishes between North Korea and South Korea before the war

    • @raymondhartmeijer9300
      @raymondhartmeijer9300 Před 9 měsíci

      There is evidence that the South actually started the conflict and the North was reacting to that. This is, however, never mentioned by Western commentators, always painting the North as the aggressors

  • @lilytea3
    @lilytea3 Před 9 měsíci

    0:00: 💥 On June 25th, 1950, the Korean People's Army invaded South Korea, leading to a devastating conflict and the involvement of major world powers.
    3:40: ⚔ The Korean War began with the invasion of South Korea by the North Korean army, which quickly overran the South and pushed them towards the ocean.
    7:51: ✊ The U.S and the U.N were shocked by the quick and efficient control of the battlefield by the kPa, but believed their success was due to favorable variables and vulnerability of South Korea.
    10:49: ✨ MacArthur's successful landing in Incheon and subsequent push inland was a major turning point in the war, improving morale and leading to the recapture of Seoul.
    14:40: 🔥 MacArthur's request to use nuclear weapons in the Korean War was denied, preventing a potential catastrophic conflict.
    17:57: ! The Korean war is still technically ongoing as both sides continue to ready themselves for future fighting after signing the Armistice.
    Recap by Tammy AI

  • @daviddevlogger
    @daviddevlogger Před 9 měsíci +2

    That is not my problem.... my problem is my sister left twin girls with me. I was feeding one and i took a break to read the comments a little, now I don't know which one has eaten😅😂

  • @hanglee5586
    @hanglee5586 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The Inchon landing deserves a separate video.

    • @nolongerblocked6210
      @nolongerblocked6210 Před 9 měsíci

      I don't know how MacArthur walked around with balls that big 😅😅

  • @rowe024
    @rowe024 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Pretty new to the channel. I'm (allegedly) surprised how much info you can get out in such a short amount of time.
    Tangents while talking about serial ki11ers keep it in a good mood though 👌
    Man of many talents

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 Před 9 měsíci +1

    My family is Korean. I look at Vietnamese-American refugees and see what could've been.

  • @buffgarfield3231
    @buffgarfield3231 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Unless Germany is the antagonist I am not calling any war ww3

  • @NotSure2020
    @NotSure2020 Před 9 měsíci +1

    19:26 what is the context of this photo?

    • @borisattva
      @borisattva Před 9 měsíci

      Google Reverse Image Search indicates this is "U.S. Marines escorting Yugoslav POWs in Kosovo over to Yugoslav authorities"

  • @b1646717
    @b1646717 Před 9 měsíci +1

    My grandfather always hated being a veteran of a war that nobody remembers.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm sure many older Koreans would've been happy to buy him a drink.

    • @nolongerblocked6210
      @nolongerblocked6210 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The people of South Korea remember to this day & happily thank anyone who fought for their country

  • @Catman2123
    @Catman2123 Před 9 měsíci

    Nothing could have prepared me for seeing a picture of Douglas MacArthur without sunglasses.

  • @rejvaik00
    @rejvaik00 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Another interesting food for thought is that Taiwan exists today seperate from mainland Chinese influence because the military resources that were being massed to begin a campaign against the taiwanese were relocated by Mao to the Korean peninsula to assist the N. Koreans

  • @TerenceClark
    @TerenceClark Před 9 měsíci +2

    It would have been difficult, though not impossible, for there to have been billions of casualties in that era. It seems inconceivable to us in the modern-day, but at the time there were only 2.5 billion people on the planet. To lose 2/5 or more of the world population to a single conflict would certainly be stark and unprecedented.

    • @Shinzon23
      @Shinzon23 Před 8 měsíci

      Also, nuclear bombs in that era were delivered by aircraft And thus, were limited in yield and could potentially be countered with interceptors. Whereas in the 60s and 70s, there was no defending against icbms or sub launched icbm's.

  • @loganwagler7997
    @loganwagler7997 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I dream of a warogrphics and armchair historian crossover event. Keep crushing it sir!

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ayla

  • @bluegold1026
    @bluegold1026 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Now we must ask ourselves what will it take to officially end the Korean War once and for all.

    • @marktg98
      @marktg98 Před 9 měsíci

      As much as I hate to say it: unless someone manages to find a way to eliminate the Kims and all of their goons, probably another war. They'll never voluntarily give up control.

  • @bmyers7078
    @bmyers7078 Před 9 měsíci +2

    15:00 “The worst Radiation dissipates after Two Weeks !” ☢️
    - General Buck Turgidson ‘Dr. Strangelove’ (1964)

    • @julianaylor4351
      @julianaylor4351 Před 9 měsíci

      Gentlemen stop arguing, this is the War Room. The War Room in Dr Strangelove actually resembles the FIFA boardroom. 😁

  • @chrisblake4198
    @chrisblake4198 Před 9 měsíci +7

    MacArthur operated from an old school 'weapons are meant to be used' mindset, but was unable to see the world had changed. Truman got it right even though it meant lives lost in battle in the short term.

  • @thomasdelancey5105
    @thomasdelancey5105 Před 9 měsíci +4

    The bit about Truman’s courage to back McArthur - a bonafide war hero - off nuclear war, to the degree of firing him, is often overlooked.
    Perhaps the most important moment in the second half of the century.

    • @tvgerbil1984
      @tvgerbil1984 Před 7 měsíci

      When the British prime minister Clement Attlee got wind of MacArthur pushing to gain the power to launch nuclear strikes against China, Attlee flew to Washington with his generals to dissuade Truman of the danger of such an act. Attlee believed the Soviets would use nuclear strikes against China as the excuse to launch attacks in Europe. That might include nuclear strikes too as the Soviets were known to have atomic bombs before the Korean War started. Attlee's secretary recalled that Truman promised Attlee the power to launch nuclear strikes remained with Truman alone. Truman would take it as a matter of honor to consult with his ally first.

  • @claywest9528
    @claywest9528 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Truman remains the only US president, and only National executive, to order the use of nuclear weapons in combat. (So far). Glad he didn't make a habit of it.

    • @barkydogable
      @barkydogable Před 9 měsíci

      So glad he didn't. Otherwise, we might not have developed the ones that came after. The ones that could destroy the entire planet. The ones that have been used as a THREAT by such great and loving countries like Russia, Iran, and North Korea recently.

  • @alfrancisbuada2591
    @alfrancisbuada2591 Před 9 měsíci

    Macarthur's finger was dangerously close to the nuke button

  • @armandotalampas4800
    @armandotalampas4800 Před 9 měsíci

    This should be a longer video! Your video on the Spanish -American War runs for over 40 minutes. Fighting in that war only lasted ten weeks!
    The Korean War is one of the most significant wars of the 20th century. The first major war of the Cold War...

  • @markygee194
    @markygee194 Před 4 měsíci

    My great uncle was in the British Army, fought in WW2 but was killed fighting in the Korean War, he is buried there.

  • @acerock013
    @acerock013 Před 9 měsíci +8

    This video is rife with all the well trodden tropes of American and Western misunderstanding of the conflict within Korea. The Korean War was less a war of communist aggression and more a civil war between two nationalist factions seeking to rule Korea under their own auspices.
    1. When Korea was liberated, it was then occupied. The American Military Government oversaw Korean affairs after Dean Acheson arbitrarily chose the 38th parallel and not a single Korean was even consulted about this act. When establishing a governing authority over southern Korea, the AMG employed Japanese collaborators and the ROk Army leaderships was full of former Japanese Imperial Army veterans and former members of the Kwantung Army who fought the Chinese and even Kim Il-Sung in Manchukwo. This decision to reinstate Korean collaborators to run ROK led to a tyrannical and authoritarian governing body that was fervently anti-communist and would label anyone or anything as not wholly loyal to ROK as communist.
    2. ROK Army forces had skirmished with DPRK long before 1950 and in 1948 to 49 ROK Army forces had attacked north of the 38th parallel particularly around the city of Kaesong.
    3. General John Hodge oversaw the occupation of Korea from 1945-1948 and during that time he oversaw the reformation of the ROK Army and something that was a distinct and clear choice by Hodge and AMG was the NOT provide Syngman Rhee with weapons like tanks and artillery because they were pretty certain that if Rhee had an army equipped with American tanks and artillery that he would would have invaded north.
    4. ROK was a military junta and put down multiple popular uprisings in Cholla and Che-ju Island. The KNP response to Che-ju in 1949 led to the deaths of 20,000 Korean civilians officially, but the unofficial count was 60,000 dead and nearly 50,000 fled to Japan.
    5. Nuclear weapons were not only discussed but components of nuclear weapons were shipped to Guam where Air Force B-29s were prepared to employ them if called for. The break between MAcArthur and Truman broke down around the notion that MacArthur believed he had the authority to decide whether or not to use nuclear weapons where Truman did not want this final decision left up to him hence the decision to fire America's Caesar and replace him with MAtt Ridgeway who was in line with Truman's nuclear weapon policy.
    6. The Inchon Landings were not a surprise to DPRK. the In-man-gun, People's Army, was aware that Inchon was going to be invaded and withdrew the majority of their forces from Inchon because they knew they couldn't hold it and left a token force of about 2000 soldiers.
    7. We need to acknowledge that Syngman Rhee was every bit the villain that Kim Il-Sung was. He was not just a fervent anti-communist, he was also fascist in how he ran Korea and leading up to the war most of his government was flagging and he was overthrown by a coup led by General Park Jung-hi who was later assasanated himself in another coup. Rhee was living and lobbying in America long before 1945 but was popular with DC because he was openly anti-communist and seemingly devoted the American interests in the Pacific.
    The Korean War didn't start in 1950 and it can be best viewed as a war of different phases. Prior to 1950 the conflict was between the wealthy landowning aristocracy who aligned with Japanese colonial authorities and the peasant and working class. When the war kicks off in earnest, it can be ebst described as America defeating the DPRK in battle. Then during 1950-1951 the war can be best described as a failed invasion of the DPRK while the war in 1952-53 the war is largely a struggle to restore the 38th parallel as the demarcation between DPRK and ROK. We want to view it as a simple battel of good vs evil and in many ways it was, but who we viewed as good and who we viewed as evil are designed to fit within the Red Scare narrative that was dominating the 50s and 60s. In that sense the Korean War is much more akin to the Vietnam War than it was WW2.

    • @kimandre336
      @kimandre336 Před 9 měsíci

      Westerns always forget that South Korea suffered from "communist style" civilian massacres before the Korean War.

    • @UbermanNullist
      @UbermanNullist Před 9 měsíci +1

      this is a typical CCP narrative.

    • @stevenbaksh5545
      @stevenbaksh5545 Před 9 měsíci

      Well said

  • @ClericOfPholtus
    @ClericOfPholtus Před 9 měsíci +1

    So basically Fallout is the timeline where McArthur got his way

  • @drew2276
    @drew2276 Před 9 měsíci +1

    With a name like Simon Whistler you were born to make these videos

  • @calebbearup4282
    @calebbearup4282 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Ending China and Russia then would have likely made the following several decades much better overall even if it had resulted in nuclear exchange

  • @freedombro6502
    @freedombro6502 Před 9 měsíci +1

    We risk even greater nuclear armageddon now .
    It is better to deal with the enemy while in a fixed position then to deal with the mess we experience now.

  • @Zenith118
    @Zenith118 Před 9 měsíci +1

    "Nuke em"
    "No"
    "Aw cmoooooon"
    "You're FIRED"

  • @null.psyche
    @null.psyche Před 9 měsíci

    The Korean War is still technically ongoing? Considering so is WWII you could probably do a video of "5 Long 'Over' Wars That Are Still Technically Going"