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  • čas přidán 17. 02. 2022
  • Imagine the worst team in the NFL, and a team that everyone knew was going to be bad, playing back-to-back nationally televised games over the final three weeks of the season that are completely meaningless and have no implication on the playoff picture. Well, for some inexplicable reason that left ESPN and CBS executives frustrated, and left the NFL throwing its hands in the air, that's exactly what happened during the 1991 NFL season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, as the 2-11 Bucs became media darlings for some reason. This is the story behind that idiotic decision
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    Members of the 1991 Buccaneers:
    Steve Christie
    Mark Royals
    Jeff Carlson
    Vinny Testaverde
    Chris Chandler
    Robert Wilson
    Glenn Rogers
    Alonzo Hampton
    Marty Carter
    Roger Jones
    Tony Covington
    Darrell Fullington
    Ricky Reynolds
    Alonzo Highsmith
    William Frizzell
    Reggie Cobb
    Robert Hardy
    Chuck Weatherspoon
    Harry Hamilton
    Gary Anderson
    Carl Carter
    Wayne Haddix
    Broderick Thomas
    Keith McCants
    Jesse Solomon
    Maurice Oliver
    Sam Anno
    Al Chamblee
    Calvin Tiggle
    Kevin Murphy
    Tom Mayberry
    Ian Beckles
    Tim Ryan
    Rhett Hall
    John Bruhin
    Charles McRae
    Rob Taylor
    Tom McHale
    Paul Gruber
    Scott Dill
    Gerald Nichols
    Reuben Davis
    Lawrence Dawsey
    Ron Hall
    Bruce Hill
    Terry Anthony
    Ed Thomas
    Willie Dewerey
    Mark Carrier
    Jesse Anderson
    Dexter Manley
    Tim Newton
    Darryl Grant
    Ray Seals
    Eugene Marve
    Richard Williamson (head coach)
    Hugh Culverhouse (owner)

Komentáře • 232

  • @shackdaddy7106
    @shackdaddy7106 Před 2 lety +33

    I am 67 years old. I’ve been watching the NFL for almost 60 years. Your videos are excellent. They bring back a lot of good memories and also being a trivia fan a lot of little facts that I was totally unaware of at the time. And being a trivia fan I am a stickler for the facts. You have it all down my friend. Keep up the great work.

    • @thefourmoodgroups2589
      @thefourmoodgroups2589 Před 2 lety +1

      I have a similar appreciation of his work! So good...especially good for during the long, sad days of the off-season! Lol.

    • @shackdaddy7106
      @shackdaddy7106 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thefourmoodgroups2589 The off season won’t be so long this year. The new USFL is starting up in April.

    • @thefourmoodgroups2589
      @thefourmoodgroups2589 Před 2 lety

      @@shackdaddy7106 I hear ya. I'll have a look. I went to a Birmingham Iron game here in town back in the brief AAF days. Hope it lasts longer than that!

    • @shackdaddy7106
      @shackdaddy7106 Před 2 lety

      @@thefourmoodgroups2589 I think it definitely will. Fox owns the league no matter what you think of Fox they do have deep pockets.
      Also in this first season all 43 games which includes playoffs will be played in Birmingham. So they are being smart by not trying to do too much at once.
      I discussed this with somebody on Facebook. What I am hoping will happen is that the new USFL will merge with the new XFL that is starting up next season. There would be a total of 16 teams. And each of the 16 teams would have two NFL teams to support them one AFC and one NFC.
      The new XFL already has an agreement with the NFL to be kind of an experimentation league for new rules. Which I think is extremely cool.

  • @mdf3530
    @mdf3530 Před 2 lety +33

    Us: Say the line, JG9!
    JG9: Which is worse than if he'd spiked the ball into the ground on every single play.
    Us : YAAAAY!

    • @RCVictoryLane
      @RCVictoryLane Před 2 lety +2

      12:34

    • @msarzo
      @msarzo Před 2 lety +10

      Whenever I hear JG9 give a passer rating of less than 39, I put my hand up with my index finger up ready to point at the screen when he says the line. 😂

    • @mdf3530
      @mdf3530 Před 2 lety

      @@msarzo OK there, Leonardo DiCaprio

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 Před 2 lety

      It was fitting because Jeff Carlson was that bad. I wish I forgot that I watched that Bucs/Bears game.

    • @clydemiller4776
      @clydemiller4776 Před 2 lety +4

      If there’s ever such a thing as a JG9 Live Show, I hope he allows all of us in the audience to do the honors right after he announces any QB rating below 39.6.

  • @msarzo
    @msarzo Před 2 lety +48

    The [2017] Packers were ... immunized from winning games.
    EXPERT LEVEL TROLLING!
    Loved this video as usual! Great reporting on a crazy broadcasting decision to include the 1991 Suckaneers in prime time!

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      The Cowboys, were, on Thanksgiving, because, they, were, dominant, (if, also, obscenely unlucky, as well), the Lions, were, on Thanksgiving, because, for, several years, that, was, their only, nationally-televised, Game.

    • @banjoplayingbison2275
      @banjoplayingbison2275 Před 2 lety +2

      I wonder if AntiVaxxers will now unsub from JG9 over one joke

    • @banjoplayingbison2275
      @banjoplayingbison2275 Před 2 lety

      @David Lim i mean with Aaron Rodgers and others they might

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Před 2 lety

      @David Lim yes. yes we do

  • @goonerbear8659
    @goonerbear8659 Před 2 lety +16

    "If you were to bet $100 on Tampa Bay winning the Super Bowl in 1991, you would have lost $100."
    This needs to be the basic explanation for more longshot bets. Everyone gets hyped over one dude winning $579K playing with house money. No one talks about why sports betting is still even marginally profitable for the house.

  • @SamFergusonNE
    @SamFergusonNE Před 2 lety +20

    The 49ers could have thrown six consecutive seasons straight into the ground and still had a better history than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    • @lmswentzeljr
      @lmswentzeljr Před 2 lety +1

      The 49ers played the Bucs in 1992 it was a much closer game than was expected, it was a Saturday afternoon game like the Bears game. I think the 49ers had a 10 game winning streak against the Bucs which lasted 1980-94.

    • @rustyshackleford1114
      @rustyshackleford1114 Před 2 lety +1

      And yet, over the past 30 years, the Bucs have more Super Bowl wins than the 49ers. Womp womp.

    • @mkendra29
      @mkendra29 Před 2 lety

      @@lmswentzeljr I attended that game as a 16-year old and wondered why my Niners weren't throttling Tampa Bay. My dad who took me was saying, if they play like this in the playoffs then there's no way they'll win the SB. Sure enough, they didn't (Dallas beat them in the NFC title game.) Thanks for bringing that up, I'd forgotten about that!

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog887 Před 2 lety +22

    Calling early Saturday primetime is a major stretch. As I remember, this was typical of how the NFL scheduled late season Saturday games back then. One decent team against an opponent you normally wouldn't see nationally. Also, this was the early days of Sunday Night Football, on ESPN, in an era where there were still a large number of households that didn't get cable. The NFL basically used this slot to spread "primetime" games out among a larger number of teams, including some that weren't considered Monday Night-worthy. So, even though this was kind of stupid, it's not at all surprising.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds similar to what they did with NFL Network’s Thursday night games from 2006-2013 (this may happen again next season with Amazon taking over the rights… I hope Al Michaels and Troy Aikman are looking forward to calling a Texans-Jaguars game)

    • @WaltGekko
      @WaltGekko Před 2 lety +5

      Exactly. The Sunday Night games ESPN got from 1987-2005 (and TNT from 1991-'97 before ESPN got the full SNF package) were often mismatches. When ESPN got Monday Night Football in 2006, it was a beefed-up version of their Sunday night package (NBC had a solid Monday night lineup at the time which is why what was MNF became SNF).

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety +2

      @@WaltGekko Also, ABC had a very strong Sunday night lineup at the time (which was headlined by Desperate Housewives and Grey’s Anatomy) and were not willing to move those shows to make way for SNF

    • @gregster61
      @gregster61 Před 2 lety

      Yeah. I remember Tom Dempsey's multiple missed extra points were all that held the Rams under 60 on a late-season Saturday afternoon in the 70's. Rams 59, Falcons 0.

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před 2 lety +2

      Maybe not prime time but it's a nationally televised game.

  • @otrwp79
    @otrwp79 Před 2 lety +12

    The Bucs did beat the Lions that season. The Lions went 12-4 and won the NFC Central and also beat the Cowboys 38 to 6 in the playoffs (their only playoff win so far in the Super Bowl era).

    • @kyle1910
      @kyle1910 Před 2 lety +3

      Sports has plenty of "broken clock spotting" instances like that

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 Před 2 lety +2

      That was after my Bucs went to Pontiac, Mich. and got dragged earlier that season.

    • @johnwiesner9590
      @johnwiesner9590 Před 2 lety +2

      Despite the Lions making that surprise run to the conference championship game in 1991, they only got three national telecasts the next season, the traditional Thanksgiving game, a Thursday night game, and a Monday night game. That's probably because they have one of the smallest fan bases in the NFL.

  • @dentonyoung4314
    @dentonyoung4314 Před 2 lety +3

    Not enough faces and palms on the planet for the amount of facepalming required.

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 Před 2 lety +8

    Actually, they scored more than 14 points 4 times that season(and 3 times after the bye): Week 2 they scored 20 vs the Bears, week 11 they scored 30 against the Lions, week 15 they scored 24 against the Vikings and week 17 they scored 17 against the aforementioned Colts.

  • @pullt
    @pullt Před 2 lety +18

    Oh wow! They were led by THE Richard Williamson?

    • @JWex-jy7sk
      @JWex-jy7sk Před 2 lety +8

      Great wide receivers coach, but just wasn’t fit to lead the entire system of a team as a head coach.
      Guy helped develop receivers like Carl Pickens, Muhsin Muhammad, and Steve Smith.
      In fact Richard Williamson was a huge influence to Steve Smith all those years in Carolina helping him turn into the star receiver he became throughout his entire career

    • @toddbiesel4288
      @toddbiesel4288 Před 2 lety +1

      Venus and Serena's dad? Wait, wrong guy.

    • @eugenedenbrook322
      @eugenedenbrook322 Před 2 lety

      😆

  • @osu4mul8r
    @osu4mul8r Před 2 lety +8

    12:36 … say it, say it!!!

  • @ThatDonChannel
    @ThatDonChannel Před 2 lety +2

    "The worst?" You would think the worst decision was to have the 49ers and the Raiders (when they were in Oakland) have games on at the same time, and both on CBS - and San Francisco's CBS station actually tried switching back and forth between the two games while they were in progress.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety

      That would be a good idea for a future video

  • @cliffdover1883
    @cliffdover1883 Před 2 lety +4

    Love the Milli Vanilli reference

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      Really too bad that we can't make fun of the fools, both, of those, "singers," would, seriously, make of themselves, because, well, you know.

    • @cliffdover1883
      @cliffdover1883 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 yep. Lived through it. Arguably themost comical group exposures in ALL time

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cliffdover1883 Yeah, not, so, much, today, what would happen to them, was, truly tragic, period.

  • @luisreyes1963
    @luisreyes1963 Před 2 lety +5

    And you thought the "Heidi Game" was network TV's most boneheaded move. 😆

    • @mikethomas5276
      @mikethomas5276 Před 2 lety

      That is what I thought this video was gonna be.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety

      I could tell from the thumbnail that it wasn’t

  • @johnstebbins24
    @johnstebbins24 Před 2 lety +3

    I suspect a "blind study" effect was going on, where the NFL was experimenting with how many people would actually watch the worst game. Matchups like this aren't in the "so bad it's good" category, it's just one terrible team vs. one second or third tier team. The only reason to watch was "Well, it's football." So now we know how many will watch ANY game, and in a period of contract negotiations, that's an important factor to be aware of.

    • @bigfenix8272
      @bigfenix8272 Před 2 lety +1

      This is the most logical explanation I've read. This was the NFL setting their ratings bottom line.

    • @johnstebbins24
      @johnstebbins24 Před 2 lety

      @@bigfenix8272 thanks for translating what I said into English. I wasn't good with der werds when I thought of it.

  • @johnreese3797
    @johnreese3797 Před 2 lety +3

    They wouldn't finish with single digit losses until 1995. 1983-94, 12 consecutive season's with double digit losses. Even the Detroit Lions have never been that bad for so long.

  • @Visionary_Watcher
    @Visionary_Watcher Před 2 lety +7

    The 49ers not playing for several years in an 8 year stretch and still having as many regular season wins as the buccaneers in an 8 year stretch is one of the greatest stats I've ever heard

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      The, Packers, and, Colts, having, two great, QBs, in a row, for, decades, and, going to exactly, five, SBs, winning, three, and, never, repeating, is one of the most depressing stats I've, ever, heard.

    • @anonymoususer450
      @anonymoususer450 Před 2 lety

      That's including postseason. The 49ers won 14 games in 89 and 90 and 4 playoff games combined those seasons

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      @@anonymoususer450 Yet, they'd, lose, a Game to the Giants in which they didn't score a, TD, brutal.

  • @rwt8410
    @rwt8410 Před 2 lety +1

    "Barring a meteor strike taking out the northern half of the AFC South..." Classic. LOL

  • @fallandbounce
    @fallandbounce Před 2 lety +3

    Even though they were terrible, it was a bright spot for a long-distance Buc fan. Getting to see them at all during the first couple of decades was tough.

  • @walterlv01
    @walterlv01 Před 2 lety +1

    Back in those days the NFL did not schedule night games in cold-weather climates after early November. Night games after that were always either indoors or in California/Florida. Because of the limited options, ESPN often got saddled with a Sunday night game in Tampa in December even though the Bucs were always awful. Strangely enough they were usually competitive in those games and won a few.

  • @PAGoTribe1963
    @PAGoTribe1963 Před 2 lety +2

    "Immunized from winning games" - I see what you did there.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety

      Anyone who thinks all Floridians are dumb has never met JG9

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm a longtime Bucs fan, so this was hard for me to watch. I had flashbacks! Part of the reason for the SNF rating being down was the game being blacked out here in the Tampa Bay DMA due to slow ticket sales, which cut out a growing market. With that said, everyone had to know that the Bucs would suck that season, so even as a Bucs fan, I'm not sure how, let alone why, the Bucs got 2 national appearances late that season.

  • @Mclarenboy100
    @Mclarenboy100 Před 2 lety +3

    6:35 that quote came out of nowhere and KILLED ME holy shit i'm still laughing what the hecc

  • @Spongedart12
    @Spongedart12 Před 2 lety +12

    I could see maybe having them scheduled against a popular opponent in primetime, or perhaps giving them one primetime game during a holiday where viewership might be down. Hell, I could even see them giving one game in the oft chance they were good, but two games in back to back weeks just looks so dumb. Clearly someone missed this until it was too late

    • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
      @manuginobilisbaldspot424 Před 2 lety +1

      The reality was, Monday Night Football was still THE MARQUEE primetime game for the NFL back then. Hands down. ESPN after that first contract was a bit of an afterthought. You often saw the Bucs and Colts among other mediocre or bad teams on that...especially in the first four years ESPN had that contract, because they were just so damned happy to have live NFL football. I only recall the Bucs on MNF the first 13 years I watched the NFL once...in 1998 after their rise to the playoffs the year before. And the Colts, I only remember their beatdown of Denver on Halloween night 1988. Other than that, I don't remember seeing them until 2000.

  • @MrJWTH
    @MrJWTH Před 2 lety +2

    Are we sure this didn’t violate the Geneva convention?

  • @MrCHITOWN247
    @MrCHITOWN247 Před 2 lety +1

    In fairness back then...prime time games in the middle of November and beyond were slim pickens... night games were only scheduled at warm weather cities and domes unlike today where they will schedule a night game in Green Bay in decmeber

  • @marklamphear7531
    @marklamphear7531 Před 2 lety +2

    I really love this channel.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan Před 2 lety +6

    I saw a behind the scenes look at how the NFL puts together it’s schedule. The feature said it went from Commissioner Bert Bell putting together the schedule by hand to having a computer put it together and spitting out a score of the overall schedule. I don’t know what logic led to this decision.
    I would guess that for Thanksgiving and Christmas the networks make arrangements with advertisers knowing they’re going to get lower ratings and adjust advertising rates accordingly. I don’t know if that happened for Saturday games, but this would have been a time for CBS to do some “holiday” negotiating.
    This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another scheduling decision the NFL made a decade before this that robbed San Fran fans from seeing their eventual World Champions even though Candlestick Park was sold out for their game against the Browns.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety +1

      Val Pinchbeck, the NFL’s then head of broadcasting who JG9 refers to, was also involved in creating that year’s schedule (something he did in some form or other from 1971 until his death in 2004) so his logic, in part, led to the decision.

    • @rongamble8930
      @rongamble8930 Před 2 lety +1

      When Bert Bell was commissioner, there were only 12 teams in the league, with no bye weeks. It was a little easier to make the schedule in 1959 than it is now.

    • @glennhubbard5008
      @glennhubbard5008 Před 2 lety

      I used to make my own schedules by hand and play out seasons on my Football 1 handheld game.

  • @breezecardenas3941
    @breezecardenas3941 Před 2 lety +1

    I never understood why Tampa Bay was in the NFC central division?! All the other clubs were located in the northern mid west?! Thank goodness for expansion! 32 teams, 8 divisions with 4 teams per division is perfect.

    • @jackprather3471
      @jackprather3471 Před 2 lety +1

      The geography of the league was a mess, but if you go back and try to fix it using just the teams they had you'll see that it just wasn't possible.
      There were definite advantages to three mostly five-team divisions, though:
      1) half of every team's games were inside their division, giving the divisions more identity and importance
      2) with only 3 divisions per conference, at least one wild card team got to host a first round game. and
      3) It was more likely each division would have an excellent team in it.
      This meant that we didn't often see teams with mediocre records hosting better teams in the playoffs

    • @jwalach1650
      @jwalach1650 Před 2 lety

      This too deals with expansion teams coming into play as Bucs did in 76 and then having to add them somewhere without messing up division rivalries that may be built that draws tickets. When the Bucs were added they actually were in the AFC West. The Seahawks were NFC West. Then the following year the two switched conferences and Bucs ended up in NFC Central. West would not have made sense and your East already had five teams in it. Not a fan of how the NFL kind of secretly expanded with the whole Browns and Oilers move and have those two teams lose cities but only to add teams back to those cities within a few years after the moves.

    • @urbanleftbehind
      @urbanleftbehind Před 2 lety

      The BUCS may have been placed by the League in the NFC Central because it was the only division without a warm weather location (though it had the Silverdome and later the Metrodome).

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 Před 2 lety +1

    It's not the ESPN game that was baffling...Sunday night was what Monday night football is in the current day and time and ESPN (and TNT) used to get pretty mediocre matchups. I'm just shocked that the Saturday game had the Bucs scheduled. Granted, it was against the Bears, who were still a big draw in 1991, but you would've figured the Vikings or Lions (because of Barry Sanders) would've been a more likely opponent.

  • @danshobbies13
    @danshobbies13 Před 2 lety +2

    Sweet a collage channel. That’s fantastic

  • @cdprince768
    @cdprince768 Před 2 lety +1

    This is almost as dumb as the NCAA refusing to expand beyond a 4-team playoff and losing out on $450 million.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      The, SEC, Invitational, would have had the identical result, it's going to take something truly bizarre, for, another, Conference, to, ever, win, going forward.

    • @cdprince768
      @cdprince768 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 The SEC has been quite good, but I don't think it would be bizarre for Ohio State or Clemson to win the title.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      @@cdprince768 I think Clemson made the most of its window, but, that appears closed, OSU, lost, to Michigan, which, was, the one thing that makes me believe they may be through, as well, stay tuned.

  • @chrisuncleahmad
    @chrisuncleahmad Před 2 lety +2

    Somehow 2 of their 3 wins came against the 12-4 Lions and 10-6 Eagles

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 Před 2 lety

      I attended that Eagles game. The man I went there with and I left just before the Bucs made their comeback.

  • @johnmanier7968
    @johnmanier7968 Před 2 lety +1

    This scheduling was bad, but not entirely inexplicable. I believe every NFL team got at least one national TV game per season by this point. (I know they do now.) in 1991, Sunday Night Football was pretty low on the TV pecking order. That changed when NBC took over SNF in 2006. Also in 1991-and really from 1970-2000-the NFL scheduled late-season night games in warmer climates or indoors, which would explain why TB hosted in December. Given that TB was on national TV the following Saturday afternoon at Chicago, it does seem strange that they were on Sunday night as well. By this time, CBS rarely had big matchups on December Saturdays, preferring to save those games for Sundays, where ratings have a higher ceiling. CBS’s frequent Saturday formula was to match a high-rated and/or big-market team (e.g., Bears, Giants, Cowboys) against a less attractive opponent. The Bears were the attraction and TB was filler on this one.

  • @BrickologyProductions
    @BrickologyProductions Před 2 lety +5

    Maybe this means the poverty Jaguars will get some primetime games next year

    • @Rockhound6165
      @Rockhound6165 Před 2 lety +5

      They'll get at least 1. All teams get at least 1 and usually it's a Thursday night game.

    • @hrtvfan2870
      @hrtvfan2870 Před 2 lety

      @@Rockhound6165 My thoughts on this are now that we have flex-scheduling, I would probably have the teams with poor records the previous year scheduled for primetime as early in the season as possible

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety

      They’ll be Amazon’s favourite team next season

    • @sparkythesecretsquirrel4013
  • @lmswentzeljr
    @lmswentzeljr Před 2 lety +2

    That was a different era, they would never do that today, with flex scheduling, Monday Night was the more desirable slot than Sunday Night. 30 yrs ago hard to believe it was that long ago

    • @CTubeMan
      @CTubeMan Před 2 lety +1

      The Minnesota-Tampa Bay game would be scheduled for Monday Night before it would be scheduled for Sunday Night.

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 Před 2 lety +1

    1991 just reminds me of Tecmo Super Bowl. Where is the interception GOD, Wayne Haddix?

  • @racer72
    @racer72 Před 2 lety

    That's 14 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

  • @TophOpossum
    @TophOpossum Před 2 lety +1

    I Discorded you a high res version of your JG8 logo. :)

  • @aaronholcomb237
    @aaronholcomb237 Před rokem

    Notwithstanding the Jets and the 4-12 Packers, the Buccaneers lost their other 6 road games by a combined score of 44-185.

  • @whataboutrob442
    @whataboutrob442 Před 2 lety

    Gotta remember that these games were scheduled months before the season started and they never changed them. Coming off a NFC central second place finish in 1990, they probably thought that they were going to be a playoff hopeful in 1991. They never talked about these things back then. There were MANY primetime games that made zero sense once the season started to unfold, but it was already scheduled.

  • @scottfarmer8758
    @scottfarmer8758 Před 2 lety

    At least their week 17 matchup against the Indianapolis Colts wasn't nationally televised. Going into the game the Buccaneers were 2-13 while the Colts were 1-14. I remember Chris Berman calling this game Stuper Bowl II.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      ESPN needs to get rid of him, and, the HOF, needs to, as well, his act, was, worn out years, ago, and, apparently, everybody knows it, but, him, just sad.

  • @MNsportsnut
    @MNsportsnut Před 2 lety

    What's crazy is the Buccaneers would get 2 National games in a 3 week span the following year. Sunday Night home game against a Rams team that was also 3-13 in 1991 & a Saturday game in San Francisco 2 weeks later.

  • @marlonnicholson8410
    @marlonnicholson8410 Před 2 lety +1

    They did not have flex scheduling back in the day 😤

  • @thebuckeyedolphin
    @thebuckeyedolphin Před 2 lety +2

    No one noticed who he said the two teams with a worst points against were lmao

    • @jasonfire3434
      @jasonfire3434 Před 2 lety

      I noticed, but to be fair a lot changes in 30 years

    • @thebuckeyedolphin
      @thebuckeyedolphin Před 2 lety

      @@jasonfire3434 still a weird coincidence nonetheless

  • @mustang5784
    @mustang5784 Před 2 lety

    Mickey and Minnie had a role in the decision making process.

  • @spencesportsnetwork147

    In Hockey, ABC which has 10 games is airing a game between 2 teams already Eliminated This is the Equivalent of if Sunday Night Football did a game between 2 3-8 teams

  • @americasevilgenius
    @americasevilgenius Před 2 lety

    Remember that the Sunday Night package wasn't perceived as being nearly as valuable in those days as it is today (in fact, it was split...half of the season on TNT, and the other half on ESPN). In the early 90's, we were *just* getting to the point where most of the nation was wired for cable or satellite TV...in other words, NFL Games on cable would have a "ceiling" of total possible viewership when compared to the potential viewership of the over-the-air networks. That is no longer a factor today, of course...but back then, the cable packages for the NFL were seen as barely more than an experiment...so sticking the Bucs there made some degree of sense.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor Před 2 lety

    The NFL schedule maker spiked a Nielsen ratings book every time.

  • @michaellee4276
    @michaellee4276 Před 2 lety

    Before Sunday Night Football moved to NBC they were always bad games between unpopular or bad teams. The ESPN guy's statement about not wanting the Bucs-Vikings on Sunday night football could be said about almost every Sunday Night Football game on ESPN. The Sunday night game was designed to be in the worst half of games of the week. The Bucs were the worst possible choice, and synonymous with bad football that no one wanted to see on TV, but that Sunday night game was never going to be a good one.

  • @KT72273
    @KT72273 Před 2 lety +1

    I enjoy these videos but I will also quote the narrator in saying there needs to be some context here!
    1)If memory serves right, this channel also had a video about how the NFL tried to do Sunday night games in the late 70s and even featured the Steelers and Rams! However, the consensus was that 3 games on a Sunday was too much for most fans! The ratings were mediocre for those nighttime games! ESPN didn't start with Sunday Night Football in 1987 and that was a gamble!
    2)The Saturday/playoff weekend schedule up until the 2000s typically started at 12:30pm ET followed up with a 4:00pm ET game!
    This scheduling wasn't the most Darwinian thing for the league to do but half the country isn't likely to tune in to the Bears/Bucs when kickoff was before lunch!

  • @averycampos6484
    @averycampos6484 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your channel

  • @reedermh
    @reedermh Před 2 lety

    The ONLY team you could schedule that way if they were really bad, would be the Dallas Cowboys. Because the whole world would tune in to see the disaster.

  • @mike04574
    @mike04574 Před 2 lety

    People forget they were the worst franchise in all sports up until the 2000s

  • @mdf3530
    @mdf3530 Před 2 lety +3

    You gotta admit that Buccaneers' old uniforms were pretty sweet.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +2

      They made about as much sense as being in the same, Division, as the, Bears, Lions, Packers, and, Vikings, rivalries would make, for, a lot of geographical nonsense, in, MLB, as well.

    • @mdf3530
      @mdf3530 Před 2 lety +2

      @@matthewdaley746 to me it still makes no sense that Dallas is in the NFC East

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mdf3530 Rivalries, again, it makes more sense, than, the Cardinals, it, also, makes more sense, than, the, Falcons, Saints, and, Panthers, being in the, West.

  • @charleswilliamsjr
    @charleswilliamsjr Před 2 lety

    Why would the buccaneers want to be on ESPN this late in 1991!

  • @samuelmccorkle7013
    @samuelmccorkle7013 Před 2 lety

    Richard Williamson has got to wear a gold
    Jacket
    From the Men’s Warehouse

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog887 Před 2 lety

    Something else to consider: The 1991 schedule is based on the 1990 standings. Looking at the 1990 NFC standings, there were only 5 teams with winning records, and three of those were in the NFC East. You can't have an NFC East matchup every week, you're taking away too many prime games from CBS, nor can you have an AFC matchup every week, or you're screwing over NBC. And, even though the Bucs finished 6-10, they were in a four way tie, and won the tie-breaker, so the Bears-Bucs matchup was between a first and a second place team.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle Před 2 lety

      Only 5 teams? That busts the whole “the NFC was the stronger conference in the late 80s/early 90s” myth

    • @big8dog887
      @big8dog887 Před 2 lety

      @@TimmyTickle Sort of. The NFC's best teams were definitely better than the AFC's best, which is why they always won the Super Bowl, usually by blowout. But, if you judge the quality of the conference from top to bottom, the AFC was definitely better at the mid and bottom levels.

  • @chrisuncleahmad
    @chrisuncleahmad Před 2 lety +2

    Oh those Buccaneers

  • @fromthehaven94
    @fromthehaven94 Před 2 lety

    Thank goodness that ABC/ESPN gets in on the flex scheduling in future seasons. As much as I liked the Bengals defeating the Steelers in Week 15 last season (2020), that game didn't deserve to be on Monday night.

  • @blakerascon7745
    @blakerascon7745 Před 2 lety

    Imagine if this upcoming season, the Cowboys-Jags game was scheduled to be a Sunday night game.

  • @chadadams6052
    @chadadams6052 Před 2 lety

    I remember the next season they actually had the Rams and Bucs play each other on national TV

  • @alkandrosrichards4987
    @alkandrosrichards4987 Před 2 lety

    For the Packers 2017 season, I believe you completely disregarded the fact the Aaron Rodgers got hurt against the Vikings. They sucked because they didn’t have their guy under center and they had to have Brett hundley play. Rodgers had a broken collarbone

    • @OfficialJaguarGator9
      @OfficialJaguarGator9  Před 2 lety

      True, but that wasn’t the main point. The point was that the networks thought that the Packers would be good and competitive at the end of the season, and rightfully so. However, they were not, making those primetime games meaningless

  • @mikethomas5276
    @mikethomas5276 Před 2 lety

    The only thing I can think of is that the people who made the schedule thought that the good teams would have the playoffs secured and be sitting their starters. Maybe they figured the opponents would be competing for a place in the playoffs making the game somewhat important.
    I don't know just my guess

  • @jmed412
    @jmed412 Před 2 lety

    When it came to Saturday games it seemed like they always scheduled a game with a team expected to be bad, usually against a team that was expected and usually was having a good season. Maybe the league did this because it was giving a break to the better team

  • @robbiegarnz7732
    @robbiegarnz7732 Před 2 lety

    lol! I remember this believe it or not! I was like why the hell are these knuckleheads on tv?!?

  • @vickrunalza8057
    @vickrunalza8057 Před 2 lety

    I became a Buccaneers Fan during that 3-13 Season!

  • @josephkaisler9703
    @josephkaisler9703 Před 2 lety

    Are you going to any USFL video ?

  • @bigwillietheb
    @bigwillietheb Před 2 lety

    the reason the Bucs 1991 season got 2 back to back national televsion games ,one they played the New York giants the current superbowl champs at the time & the game sold out with the majority of Giants fans & the other who knows the Bucs really sucked back then

  • @masonc402
    @masonc402 Před 2 lety +1

    Me: Is he gonna say the thing?
    Video: "Which is worse than if he did nothing but spiking the ball into the ground on every play"
    Me: Hell yes, he said the thing!

  • @darreljones8645
    @darreljones8645 Před 2 lety

    JaguarGator9 might be doing this episode in part because he was a Buccaneers fan back then. The Jags weren't created until 1995, after all.

  • @saintarkweather
    @saintarkweather Před 2 lety

    When do we get JaguarGator7 (high school football), JaguarGator6 (middle school football), and JaguarGator5 (pee wee football)

  • @kylecole9433
    @kylecole9433 Před 2 lety

    Tbf, in 91 MNF was way bigger than SNF.

  • @michaellyons9820
    @michaellyons9820 Před 2 lety +2

    I can understand a gamble in the opposite direction, meaning that a team that has been consistently losing for years being left out of national games late in the season, even though they turned it around and made the playoffs. But the premise of this video is right: there was no reason to book the Bucs for national appearances late in the 1991 season.

  • @rogueviking9268
    @rogueviking9268 Před 2 lety

    Oh the Creamsicle unis. . . Talk about nostalgia

  • @robertbuell3590
    @robertbuell3590 Před 2 lety

    Great videos.. but why does your voice over have so much echo?

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor Před 2 lety

    I watched that game back in 1991, I loved it, but I was a big Bears fan back then, so yeah.

  • @jackprather3471
    @jackprather3471 Před 2 lety

    I took a look at the schedule that season.
    If you remove TB from both of these games that makes them the only team in the league without a nighttime or "special" game on the schedule. Keeping the Sunday night game v Minnesota wouldn't be the worst result.
    There are really only a few choices for other matchups that make sense.
    If you want to replace the week 15 TB/Min game, the Det/NYJ game looks like a natural. Both teams were making late pushes for playoff spots and neither had more than 2 primetime games that year.
    For week 16, the best replacement game looks to be Dallas at Philadelphia. The game was shown by CBS who carried the NFC and this would certainly have been an appealing game between teams from pretty good TV markets. Of course they could have also put the Was/NYG game there, but they had already played on Sunday night earlier in the year.

  • @michaeloptv
    @michaeloptv Před 2 lety

    Well the Bears were good so the Saturday game made a little more sense.
    But when the executive producer of a network tells you it’s a stupid idea…It’s PROBABLY a stupid idea!! What was ESPN thinking?!?
    * ESPN doesn’t usually think ironically so I can only laugh at this failure for the viewers hoping to get a better quality matchup 🤣*

  • @mrdgenerate
    @mrdgenerate Před 2 lety

    Yeah but a football anything can happen you never know. The Bengals just went to the freaking super bowl so.....

  • @TheStevehuff
    @TheStevehuff Před 2 lety

    I don't remember a bye week back in 1991. I thought that the bye week started in the mid 1990's like around 1995.

  • @Davepool-hs7vr
    @Davepool-hs7vr Před 10 měsíci

    Do a video on Jeff Carlson’s only start

  • @JeffCirillo
    @JeffCirillo Před 2 lety

    The first six minutes could have been summed up in one sentence. The 1991 Buccaneers were awful and there was no reason to have expected otherwise.

  • @higgy04
    @higgy04 Před 2 lety

    I remember the Bucs prime time game in 1995. They beat the Packers 13-10 IN OVERTIME!! This was a win over a Packers team that was one win from a Super Bowl XXX appearance had it not been for their awful play at Texas Stadium over the years.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      The Cowboys had better send the Packers Christmas Cards, forever, they, weren't, beating the 49ers, who had destroyed them, earlier, in the season, in Dallas, with, Elvis Grbac at, QB.

  • @StarionX
    @StarionX Před 2 lety

    Back before Sunday Night Football was transformed into a great show by NBC and took over for Monday Night Football, which was the elite show back in the day, there used to be an unofficial formula for the TV schedule. Regardless of how good or bad a team is, they get one primetime game. Usually Sunday night, because it was much lesser of a program than MNF at that time.Teams that had a great season the season before made multiple primetime games the following season. Some even wind up with 3 Monday games. Elite teams would always get a Monday game.
    The Bucs in that season probably hadn't played their primetime game yet, and it was due to happen. If anything, I think more of the fault is on CBS putting on a Bucs game that makes no sense on a national "Game of the Week" broadcast. The Bucs had no significance in the season.

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Před 2 lety

      The Bengals of the 90's got gifted some ESPN Sunday night games. Including two Dolphins games, pitting son David against father Don. And one against the Falcons, I think.

  • @Rantman9
    @Rantman9 Před 2 lety

    It actually makes PERFECT sense. While many fake fans jump on the bandwagon of any winning team, even the lesser teams play an intrumental part, either as spoilers or draft position. I'd much rather follow a game between two 1-15 teams than any stupid bowl (never watched one & NEVER will, not even when my team has been in them!).

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, because, of the absurd number of Bowl Games, FSU, came one rivalry, loss, away from, another, invitation, despite, a pathetic season.

  • @pepperjackttv
    @pepperjackttv Před 2 lety

    Immunized from winning games. I see what you did there 😆

  • @JFeldman22
    @JFeldman22 Před 2 lety

    Hell of a video!! Best NFL channel on CZcams! But please switch to podcast mic. This is constructive criticism coming entirely out of love, and bc I want you to be successful. The echo of the voiceover is jarring and distracting. I like your channel so much I will send you one!!!

  • @eagebeazthawk290
    @eagebeazthawk290 Před 2 lety +3

    Well it’s worth it now bucs let’s go

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      They have the worst winning percentage in American professional sports, but, they've, won, two, SBs, it's back to the days of mediocrity, (at best), for, them, now, everything ends, eventually.

    • @whysosyria1
      @whysosyria1 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 actually the Timberwolves have the worst winning record in North American pro sports history

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      @@whysosyria1 Outlets claimed otherwise, whoops.

  • @antlove2k3
    @antlove2k3 Před 2 lety

    He says this in almost every video, but what is the QB rating if all he did was spike the ball on every snap?

  • @annaleighstewart2315
    @annaleighstewart2315 Před 2 lety

    What was the Vikings doing up to that point against Tampa Bay?

    • @aaronholcomb237
      @aaronholcomb237 Před rokem

      They were 6-7 going into the game with the Buccaneers.

  • @stevengrvp
    @stevengrvp Před 2 lety

    Girl you know it's true

  • @scottgreenberg1596
    @scottgreenberg1596 Před 2 lety

    The Vikings had December Primetime games this season.

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 Před 2 lety

      The Bengals could have had *three* second half games flexed into Sunday night. But at best, their game against the 49ers was moved from 1pm to 425pm- alongside the Bucs/Bills. Their games against the Chargers and Chiefs stated at 1pm.

  • @MatthewEaton
    @MatthewEaton Před 2 lety

    Well, that is kind of nitpicking. Saturday games are not a traditional primetime game. That is usually college football time and really, any football in that slot would do. I have seen worse match ups on a Saturday game in my 30+ years of watching. If it were a Sunday Night and a Monday Night game, then sure. But really, it was a throwaway time slot that the NFL thought they could get away with (remember, the NFL was struggling even at this point and there were debates in the early 90s if it would survive), and they got caught. I'll give them a pass.

  • @briangraysonesq.4955
    @briangraysonesq.4955 Před 2 lety

    I’m sure I bet on those games.

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 Před 2 lety +1

    Idea for a video: the three-year stretch (1999-2001) when the NFL had 31 teams, forcing at least one team to have a 'bye' week every week of the season, including the first and last weeks.
    Seems crazy to me that, for a time, a fanbase would have to wait until Week 2 to actually see their team play regular-season football ... or conversely, have no one to root for during the final week of the regular season.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      How, about the time when a team, I believe the Browns, had their bye week, after, playing sixteen straight Games, I don't remember the season, but, the fact that a rule didn't, already, exist to prevent this, is, totally, moronic.

    • @nelroy78
      @nelroy78 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 Blame Art Modell. If he had not moved the Browns franchise, the Ravens and Texans could’ve come into the league at the same time and prevented that.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nelroy78 I almost certainly must.

    • @nelroy78
      @nelroy78 Před 2 lety +1

      The Patriots would’ve had a bye in the final week of the regular season in 2001 if not for the 9/11 attacks that moved Week 2 to Week 17, which was a road game at my Carolina Panthers. Noteworthy because they ended up winning the AFC East and hosting the Raiders in the divisional playoffs and you know what happened. Having a bye in the new Week 16 was probably still a big advantage. The Panthers ended up playing the final three weeks of the regular season at home but it didn’t mean squat as we lost 15 straight after winning at Minnesota to begin the season.
      The Chargers ended up with the new Week 17 bye. The Cardinals didn’t start their season until September 23 in 2001 because they had the Week 1 bye that season.

    • @nelroy78
      @nelroy78 Před 2 lety

      So my point was, if the 9/11 attacks had never happened, the Patriots would have had two straight weeks off before that fateful Raiders Tuck Rule game.

  • @BigDave50
    @BigDave50 Před 2 lety

    How about stop giving Detroit the Thanksgiving game

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      They can't, the Cowboys got it because they, were, "America's Team," the Lions got it, for, the exact opposite reason, for, several years, it's their only, nationally-televised, Game, a truly sad commentary.

  • @eagebeazthawk290
    @eagebeazthawk290 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice vid

  • @rustyshackleford1114
    @rustyshackleford1114 Před 2 lety

    JG9 has a whiny voice and is a Jaguars fan. I rest my case.

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer4799 Před 2 lety

    The loveable succs days with the creamsicke unis and swashbuckler on the helmet. And games being blacked out and having to settle for falcon games instead. At least they had chris chandler as a qb who led-the falcons-to a s b. A return to the succs days are coming.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      No, they've, already, arrived, this team, probably, isn't getting any great free agents, the only question is, will Bruce Arians, possibly, match, Tony Dungy, and, Jon Gruden, with, six years, I truly doubt it.

    • @stevenbauer4799
      @stevenbauer4799 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 Not unless they get a qb.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      @@stevenbauer4799 They won't, they swung, for, the fences, and, good on them, for, hitting a, HR, now, comes the great fall.

    • @stevenbauer4799
      @stevenbauer4799 Před 2 lety

      @@matthewdaley746 Yep. it could get ugly. At least succs are in a lousy division. Perhaps the worst one now. Arians only lasted one more year with cards post carson as they shuffled in multiple qbs that season.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 Před 2 lety

      @@stevenbauer4799 Uglier, the Rams couldn't hand them a trip back, to, the, SB, best blow it up, before, the costs become even higher.