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Changing Presets On A ToneX Pedal Using "MIDI" From A Guitar Effects Processor
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2023
- In this video, I show you how to use MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface) to change presets on a ToneX Pedal, using a Guitar Effects Processor. I do it with a Boss GX-100. But you should be able to learn enough from this video, that the same techniques can be used on any Guitar Effects Processor that has MIDI out on it, such as the HX Stomp, or a Helix. You can even send program change messages from a MIDI Controller Pedal, a Keyboard, or your DAW, and yes your ToneX Pedal will change presets. It doesn't really matter what you use to do it, as long as the unit you choose can send program change numbers to the ToneX Pedal.
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Man, I bought this Tonex totally based on your advise! I’m glad I did. Even though I don’t have a Boss modeler - your knowledge makes sense with me on my Line 6 gear. Thanks for such an in depth tutorial. Answered SO many questions. Thank you, brother!
Thanks man! Can't wait to hear what you do with your TONEX pedal. I honestly believe you're gonna love it.
can I change presets using the tillage switches on the toner ? all I can get is the first three in the 00 bank. thanks for any help you can give me
Great....how do I have connect gr55 to boss gx100 midi
This is a great video. Just what I needed to get both units together. Thanks
You're welcome!
Thank you
you’ve made it palatable for me
Yeah, I've really been diggin' into this thing. It's the only modeler that I've ever come close to using as a live gigging rig. I haven't yet, but I'm as close as I've been with any of the other modelers. Man, when you grow up on tube amps like you and I, it's a very difficult transition. One that I've been working on since 2014 when my main guitar rig got stolen. Let me know if you need any help. I'll be more than happy to at least try. By the way... I use 4 On 6, from Lee Ritenour's Wes Bound CD to tweak my PA in different rooms. Works every time!
Awesome video man, thanks for this! I use ToneX with GT1000 & haven’t midi synced yet as am still experimenting with tones but this video has just become my go to for when I’m ready 🙏
Hi from across the pond, hope you’re - just sub’d so maybe this will encourage you to make more great content!
Man I'm so happy that this video may help you. You are actually the first person, besides my good friend Texas Jackdaw, that has benefited from it. Thank you for your kind words.
Does the GX-100 not have a way to send a defined PC message on a patch change? This may not be relevant, but the Boss MS-3 does. I'd check into it because I think it'd save you a lot of time. Doing PC messages one-for-one, you have to make a patch on the tone-x for every patch on the GX-100, you're losing several patches not being able to use the fourth preset on every GX-100 bank, and if you wanted to change an amp setting, you'd have to change it on every single tone-x patch. I hope the GX-100 is able to let you specify the PC message to save you some time.
That's a very good suggestion. I'll check into it. I actually like only having the 3 buttons for presets though. I'm using the 4th button for turning effects on and off. Like I can have a clean setting and add a boost for crunch with a second tap of that presets button, and then maybe have a distortion pedal setup on the 4th button. That allows me to basically have three presets in one. I also use a FS-6 to turn Reverb and Chorus off and on. Thanks for your input. I'm going to look into that soon.
Very informative, thanks.
You're welcome!
Very helpful, thanks!
Thank you, it is a very helpful video 👍👍👍
Awesome! Glad I could help.
Great video sir!
Thank you. That's encouraging.
Very good, you did a great job, and thank you for the detailed explanation.
QUESTION: I want to do the same thing on my Marshall JVM amp, what do you think?
Glad we finally connected on Facebook and your answer was resolved. Rock on brother! 🤟
Hey Gary, great video. Very helpful :)... Could you please tell me where did you get those foot switch knobs from? That would really help me reach them in my pedalboard. Have a great day!
A friend 'TexasJackdaw' gave them to me. But you can do a quick search for Footswitch Toppers and you'll get a ton of results. Sweetwater, Guitar Center, you name it, they all have them. They come in a variety of shapes and colors, including glow in the dark and clear. For pedals with colored light rings around the switches, I think the clear diamond shaped ones look killer. Here's a page on Amazon that has a bunch. www.amazon.com/s?k=Footswitch+toppers&i=mi&crid=3L456SW22QLFN&sprefix=footswitch+toppers%2Cmi%2C93&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
By the way, mine are clear plastic. You just push them on there. They also make metal ones.
Thabks a lot. I’ve ordered the blue ones. Can’t wait to try them on :)
@@leandrobremer-music How cool is that! Man, look me up on Facebook and shoot me a pic when you get them on. Here's another little tip for ya if you want... Those colored rings around the knobs are those little rubber rings that come with Shure SM58's. They fit perfectly.
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Thanks Gary for these explanations. I was a bit confused with my SY1000 and my research on bank management had led me astray and you've set me straight. it's true that U01-1 and 0A are not intuitive and my settings were sending me back to 43A ??? So thanks again for your video. For the Number 4 random patch, I'll probably assign it to an effect with the controller pedal, maybe the wha wha first.
Once you understand the principle, it's not really a problem that the pactch numbers are different.
Good first video
greetings from france
Man you are certainly welcome! And thank you for the answer to what to do with that extra button. Assigning it to be a function switch instead of a preset button is well... brilliant in my opinion.
It would be great if you could show us how to control settings like reverb on/off, comp on/off, eq, etc.
In which unit? I'd have to dig a little deeper to find out if you can control those parameters in either unit. You would also have to have something that could send out control change messages. Not sure without checking if the GX-100 will do that or not. An example would be, Control #91 is usually reverb. So control #91=25 would tell a a receiving unit to set the reverb to 25. #91=0 of course would be off, and 127 would be all the way up. #93 is Chorus, so it would be set the same way. #10 is panning, #10=64 is dead center. Anything less than that number would be panned to the left, and anything more than that would be panned to the right, and so on and so fourth. You can find complete midi control change number lists by doing a google search. I'm not sure when I would get the time to try some of that in this application, but if I do I will come back here and let you know. Personally in this application I would just do that by editing the preset to my liking and then just saving it that way. Oh, here's a good example of midi control changes. When you use your expression pedal as a volume control, it's actually telling the main volume in your GX-100 to set a value of #7 (volume) = 0 through 127. 🤔
@@GaryAlexanderMusic I was thinking of the Boss. I actually have the MS-3 and I haven't had a chance to go deeper than a patch change, but I think you can change other things as well with more commands.
Nice tutorial. Thanks. Where did you get these knob grip rings?
A friend 'TexasJackdaw' gave them to me. But you can do a quick search for Footswitch Toppers and you'll get a ton of results. Sweetwater, Guitar Center, you name it, they all have them. They come in a variety of shapes and colors, including glow in the dark and clear. For pedals with colored light rings around the switches, I think the clear diamond shaped ones look killer. Here's a page on Amazon that has a bunch. www.amazon.com/s?k=Footswitch+toppers&i=mi&crid=3L456SW22QLFN&sprefix=footswitch+toppers%2Cmi%2C93&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
Oops! I just realized you said grip rings. I had forgotten that I put those on there. Those are actually little rubber rings that are made to put on the bottom end of microphones. I think these came with some Shure SM57's. I've never used them on my mics before, so I had a few laying around. They fit perfectly and also allow the button to still be pushed. 😀
Hello great video,
What about create a patch in the boss that have the effects I want and also tell to Tonex what bank and tone ABC I want?
Good question! To try and keep my answer here simple, I'm going to give you just "one" way to do this. If you have already set-up your GX-100 and your TONEX Pedal by the instructions I gave you in this video, do this... All you have to do is save the sound you want to use on your TONEX Pedal to the matching bank and patch number (ABC).
If you have "NOT" already set-up your GX-100 and your TONEX Pedal by the instructions I gave you in this video, do this... With your MIDI cable unplugged, create your preset in the GX-100, along with the sound you want to use in the TONEX Pedal. Then follow the instructions in this video to set the matching bank and patch number in your GX-100 and your TONEX Pedal. Then save the sound you want to use on your TONEX Pedal to that matching bank and patch number. Plug in your MIDI cable and hit the preset button on the GX-100. If you did it correctly, you should have the sound you want on the TONEX Pedal and the preset on the GX-100 in sync with each other. Hope that helps! Thanks for your comment. You may have just given me an idea for a follow up video to this one.
@@GaryAlexanderMusic Thanks, Im on the way to get a GX100 or GT 1000 Core or HX Stomp, used, just want spend around $500, but I want make sure I can create a patch that using midi comands I can also select the tonex tone I want. At the end you will have something like a Kemper.
Also, because I experiement with an old RP1000, and each Tonex Tone have diferents needs, like overdrive , may be some tonex tones need more gain than others for example.
Hola Gary excelente video! queria consultar si hay una gran diferencia de sonido y calidad agregando tonex a la Gx100 vale la pena realmente ? y para la conexion es necesario otros pedales o funciona perfecto conectando con gx100
Thank you!
@@GaryAlexanderMusic cuando puedas comentarme tu experiencia, de lo que te pregunté , gracias
Awesome video! Where did you get those oversized stomp buttons on the GX?
A friend gave them to me. They're called Footswitch Toppers. These are made by Mooer. You can get them just about anywhere online. Sweetwater, Amazon, Ebay, etc. They just slip right over top of your footswitchs. And they come in every color of the rainbow. Just do a quick google search and you'll come up with a ton of them. Prices vary. You can get generic ones for as low as like 10 bucks. But I can't guarantee they will fit as snug as these Mooer ones do. If you have buttons a pedal that lights up, like the Line 6 stuff, you can even get glass ones. They're called diamonds. Good luck brother!
Oops! I apologize man. Those last ones I mentioned are called Mooer Shrooms. Check out this video... czcams.com/video/TLUYrsMs99E/video.htmlsi=SY3Mb57reSRstEw8
Do you think this works on GT100 ? Because I have Joyo Cab box and the Midi doesn't work on it. I wanna buy the tonex to still using with my old unit.
The short answer would be yes. But the steps to set it up in the menu are going to be different.
I actually like the GT 100 and I think the tonex pedal would be a great compliment to that unit.
Thank you for the answers, when I try to do it I'll let you know. I subscribed here to follow your contents!
Neat!!! I love my GX100, but some of the amp models are.. not the best
Yes that's true with just about any multi-effects pedal. Everyone likes something different.
@GaryAlexanderMusic I got some great tones with the Boutique and the X Crunch. The effects are top notch. I really don't think you can beat this pedal at this price point.
Can you tell me please, when it's set up like that, can you still change preset on Tonex with tonex button or is it locked? I mean if you're on preset 01-1 on gx-100, can you change preset on tonex manually?
Yes you can still operate ToneX as normal. Plugging a midi cable into it will not lock it. But as soon as you change presets on the GX-100 or what ever controller you are using, it will change the ToneX. It will not stay on the preset you changed it too manually. Hope that answers your question.
@@GaryAlexanderMusic Thanks for the answer. That's what i need because in some case i want maybe effects from preset 01-1 (gx-100) but in combination with different profile on tonex
How do I control my boss rv500 with my gx100 ?
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well that depends on what you mean by control. If you want to change presets on your rv500 with the gx100, it's basically the same principal as what you see in this video. I would bet that if you take a MIDI cable and run it from the MIDI Out of your GX100 to the MIDI In of the RV500, it will probably just work fine that way. Otherwise you'll need some more instructions to get them to talk to each other. That you will find in your manuals.
@@GaryAlexanderMusic yes sir
Changing presets as I saw what you did is what I’m aiming for
Something very simple … I have very specific verb patches that I created for bass
I’d also want to relocate my rv500 into my rack drawer
@@officialgmusic I may be wrong, but you can have up to about 25 feet of MIDI cable before it could have potential clitches, if you want to move the pedal to your rack drawer. Maybe longer, but I've never tried it.
@@GaryAlexanderMusic I have considered that possibility of glitch with longer cable … it was more of convenience for me at that point