Every Team gets Promoted or Relegated
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2023
- Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video Every team gets promoted or relegated in the English Football League, causing absolute chaos in FM23.
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MK Dons getting relegated from the National League is pretty much how I expect their next few years to be 😂
Let's hope
Up the fucking dons
i hope not mate
Im a dons fan and we had a dreadful season, literally last season we got third then we place 21st? They're not fit to wear the shirt
@@AtomicSpinoas a Newport County fan, it's the same here, we were in the play offs the other year and now we're crap
This was an interesting experiment! I'd love to see one where the English pyramid gets 0 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 3 points for a loss.
The worst teams would rise to the top, get Prem/European money, get better and then start getting less points.
Cups, Europe, and Internationals would stay the same as they are in real life.
What a f*cking stupid idea
Yes that will be fun
Great idea!
@@TomFM Based on that: What would happen if a win and a draw both get you 2 points, and 1 point for a loss?
@@TomFM come on Tom we should do it
As a Leicester fan seeing this after we actually got relegated irl, watching us finishing 6th in this is just so painful 😂😭
Maybe you'll manager 6th in the Championship next season? 😂
@TomFM maybe haha. Got to get the recruitment right on and and off the field before we start thinking about getting back up. Great video btw, keep up the good work 👍
Fulham did very well, 3 Europa League's, 2 Champions league finals and 1 conference league Final. (This was nice to see as a Fulham fan)
Tom what if you made it so top 5 euro league teams had to play with south american nation rules (for example, all english clubs get put into brasil , having to play with brazil's selection rules and calendar, spain into argentina's calendar, italy into chile ect) and the other way around (brazil teams into the prem, argentinian in la liga)
That would be sick.
Super!
Phew Sevilla, Eintracht, etc. Vs Al Ahly, Zamalek
6:39 i cant imagine the amount of cleaning that spurs did to that dusty trophy cabinet to fit in those league cup trophies
I'd love to see the English leagues have the "Belgian playoffs" and see if that affects what happens up and down the leagues
UP THE BROMLEY BOYS 🎉🎉🎉
2nd best club in London (after the mighty hammers ⚒)
No
@@Dutchintheheart yes
Hereford on top
Just got promoted into the Efl through playoffs
The strangest thing about this is how consistently low the goal difference is. Would expect the prem teams that stay top 8 to all have massive GD vs the yoyo teams. Also saw some league winners with only +20 GD which seems really odd
You’ve been killing it with the cool ideas recently! Love it Tom!
Missed Newport County being stuck in the conference and Southend going up.
Idea:in the first szn only 1 team gets relegated but 1 more team gets relegated every season until every team goes down except for 1st place and then they would win
Really loving the videos for a while now Tom, you deserve the 100k🔥
This is a really good idea. I'm impressed by your originality
Hi Tom, I like the idea and I'm curious how the teams in The Netherlands will do. Do you have a shortcut how to easily change the competition rules?
Thanks in advance!
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This needs more attention because I need to know now
Can you change the qualification spots for Europe? What if all second leagues of a nation (so Championship, Ligue 2, Serie B, Bundesliga 2, ...) get all the qualification spots for Europe?
FA Cup "nobody out the ordinary won it" Bruh, a small team like Everton won it twice
Since when are Everton small?
@@senanjackson3364 Always were, Always will be
@DomRawR ah well that definitely isn't true, they're a big team. Big team doesn't just mean the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool, sue even Newcastle are big
Must have started watching in the last decade, or joking. everton are historically massive
🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣
love to see this as just the top and bottom 10 change, leave a few open spots for maintaining league
I love to see you make a video about what if you replaced the bottom eight English championship sides with the top 8 USL championship sides from last season. Could be quite interesting.
Very entertaining, thank you Tom
I think it would be more interesting with an 8 up, 8 stay, 8 down model so that teams could get a foothold and have the chance to spring up without having a massive dwarf in class all in 1 go
Tom thank you very much, your content is really cool, sending you love from Tunisia 🖤
Glad you enjoy it! Love to Tunisia!
0:08 "ELITE" Lincoln 😂
Got to represent
@@TomFM On My Manager Savegame, Lincoln won the FA-Cup...
...while being relegated to National League...
Fairly new subscriber here. Love the content. I’d like to see a completely random football league. All 92 sides get randomised into their league. Probably a lot of work but interesting to see how quick sides drop and the cream rises to the top.
This would actually be really cool, I second this!!
"Wrexham seem to be the biggest Yo-Yo club of all time"
THEY ARE ALL YO-YO CLUBS TOM
You make a good point...
You should do a save with reversed prize money in the top 5 leagues and europe too. (Like 1st in england get the least amount of money)
Get in! Stoke won the conference league 😊 that has made my day! If only if it came true. Brilliant video Tom that was a great one.
CHAOS! I love it Tom 😂😂
hi tom, good vid. can you rank all of the FM games that you have played
thanks for doing my suggestion xD
6:24 I mean, Yeovil have literally done exactly the same as Scunthorpe irl, but in a shorter time period
Do a rebuild of Newport County from their European stints in the 80’s. Every video nowadays they go from L2 to the 7th tier and would be good to see them succeed
59 year old be celebrating a European trophy in Portugal would be nice! (Also just nice to see Charlton doing well in a save, we’re usually rubbish!)
I love how Burnley just did not change the entire video
At the start when he said it’s not looking good for the blues I’m like ugh cuz that’s my team and FRANK LAMPARD OH HELL NAH luckily we got prometed back up
I loved that my club (Bath City) did appear in this video 3 times 😊
You should try a reverse table.
20th win the title
20-17th all get Champions League
16-15th Europa
and 14th Conference.
Those in 1st, 2nd and 3rd all get relegated.
I’ve only recently discovered your CZcams channel and I’m already a big fan of it
I was just wondering how you’re doing videos like this? Is it from the steam workshop? If not where? I currently play FM23 and I’ve got the English league to the combined county leagues I can’t remember what step that is on the football pyramid but I’m going through that
I’d love to play through the game with your mods that you have showcased and would like to know where you get the mods
he is using in-game editor, than he just simulates seasons and makes saves to check them in the video
Interesting one for you. The most successful team in the European competitions each season get relegated to the national league (or equivalent). Should spring some interesting results me thinks
MK Dons in 2062 getting relegated from the National League 👌🏻
I think if you had a prom/rel play-off between the leagues it might have looked very different
Doing this experiment with all ten tiers of English football would be mayhem
That 2026 League One season was MAD!!!
I have a idea give a random no legue team man citys team and see how long it takes them to get promoted or if the players leave before they get to a champions league
Love that experiment!
10:20 what's the background song? Sounds so much like a Danish song. Have tried looking up if it's a sample but can't find anything
Interesting concept would love to play this as mod in fm
Need to redo this but with every single league in England, would be very interestint
2:05 you’re wrong there as Halifax Town, Bromley and Southend United got promoted instead of Stevenage, Harrogate Town and Newport County
Lets expriment this
Win - 3 points
Draw - 1 point AND add 0.1 to k unless k is 2.
k is 0.5 when each season starts.
k has a minimum limit of 0.5 and maximum limit of 2.0
Lose - all your points that you have currently collected gets k times itself. Also, if k isnt 0.5, reduce 0.1 from k.
Additionally, to get more draws, there is no overtime.
someone needs to make a datatbase of this
How do you do this Tom in the editor? Have you got a video you can share or a link?
What a great experiment. Curious to know how many managers got sacked because of the relegation
1:46 LOL
Also Gillingham is one of my favorite teams, it's great to see them in the Championship, then the National League, then the National League again, to League One, to League Two. Never a premier league though ;-;
And as a red, it's funny how Man Utd was relegated in their first season :V
What if you moved the MLS, the entire league, to England and placed it right in between the Championship and League One? MLS teams could be promoted to the Championship or relegated to Leauge One and I’d be very curious to see where they ended up after 50 years!
West Ham after being relegated to championship and promoted to Premier league every year: I`m movin up and down, side to side like rollercoaster
Weymouth (my local club) got to league one lol like that’s ever going to happen ever
6:22 It could be worse, such as getting relegated anyways when there are only 4 relegated teams.
Hi Tom. I have an idea.
You can build a league with the all champions team from UEFA Coefficient ranking 1 to 20. You also can do vice versa by using last place team to see who's team the worst 😂.
I just subbed (at 99k) reloaded and you were then at 100k 👍👍
Also you hit 100k
You should do every team is in the promotion playoffs next
PLEASE HELP ME, where in the pregame editor can you chnage the promotion and relegation spots i have looked in keague standings etc but cannot find it anywhere
Maybe you can create an experiment like the Super League, but with promotion and relegation, like Super League A, Super League B and so on...
Middlesbrough actually came 7th in the 2004/05 season to qualify for Europe the second time around…
Is this available on the steam workshop? The all team’s promoted or relegated thing
The top prem clubs probably poached all the good players that got relegated hence getting stronger and stronger every season. That sweet first division money must be well shared across the country by now.
watford loved coming 9th in the premier league
Ah yes, Tranmere fan here - seems we dropped out of existence entirely!
York promoted to league 1, all we have to do is wait until 2062 and hope someone in the FA has an aneurysm and implements these rules. The dream is alive…
Up the blades
You've successfully simulated a two-party system
You should turn the money around. So national league teams are earning premier league money and vise versa but for all the divisions.
mental that in the first season Man United got relegated and qualified for the UCL at the same time
South Shields is where I am from!!
How you did it? I have the editor and i don't see this type of options
I wonder if any of those Conference League winners were playing in the Championship when they won
Hey Tom, the experiment was really interesting! We would like to try this with a friend, would you have a link to download the database ? Thank you in advance
SUGGESTION #1: Is there a way to change the game where the team get the amount of points per how many goals they get in a match? e.g. Arsenal 5 - 3 Spurs... Arsenal get the 5 points (obviously) but Spurs would still get 3 points although they lost?
SUGGESTION #2: Start all teams in all the divisions in alphabetical order or TOTALLY randomise all teams in all the leagues and see where they end up over 50/100 years?
SUGGESTION #3: Incorporate a Draft system like the USA do in NFL where the best players are picked from a list?
Imagine if it went back to only champions go in champions league like the early 90s.
0:07 Bro actually put Lincoln at elite
Love seeing Gills get some love in a video
They had a superb start! Wouldn't be surprised to see them promoted next season irl!
@@TomFM As a Gills fan I hope so too, hopefully we can face Lincoln again next season!
Relegating Exeter is something i'm taking personally 🤣
Charlton in the prem and winning the conference league 🤩
would be more interesting if you focused on the prem/championship clubs
Yeovil Town did what Luton Town did but backwards💀
newport were actually the first team from league 2 to be stuck in the national league
Swindon promoted to league 1 in every decade 😂
Imagine this happened in real life.
Can you do a vlog at chesterfield vs Matlock
Think this is the first fm video that morecambe have actually been mentioned…ofc not for a good reason
chaos meant to be
9:26 LET'S GO WE IN PREM BOIS
Anyone else notice that at the end of the 2041 season, Newcastle went down but had a UCL spot? Did they win it and finish 10th?👀
Probably won the europa league
@@charlespickering1416 I did also think this after posting 👍😆
@@charlespickering1416 also, why can’t your name be Ronnie?😂🤣
@@Mr1nv1s1ble Ronnie has done so much damage to the Pickering name...
@@charlespickering1416 who?
The first time Chelsea isn’t in mid table😂😂😂😂
Do an experiment before the Bosman Arrest, so every team in Europe can only play 3 foreign players
Can you do a tutorial to simulate 100 years into the future?
Wonder what this did for manager hirings and firings every season
What if 19 teams for the premier league were relegated every season (the other leagues stay the same with the exception of the 19 championship team who are pomtiated
Is this a mod I can download on Steam?
At least Fleetwood made it to the prem