Racist Troll Posts Embarrassing Apology (Snowy Joe)
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- čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
- After my video from yesterday, Snowy Joe released an apology.
snowy joe's new apology: • Video
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Snowy Joe's new video shows him exhibiting racism, transphobia, body-shaming, and harassment. He should be banned from CZcams.
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people who say "i use dark humor" like no you're just a horrible person 😭
"My humor is pretty edgy!" *Says numerous slurs*
Dark humour can be funny, its just that a lot of people misuse the term
@@matd1165 I was about to say that exactly!
@@matd1165 a good gauge of dark humor is whether the entire joke is "I'm being an asshole! Isn't that funny?"
@@mariaquiet6211 Exactly. Shock humor being badly misused is usually what they're going for and it's not funny. Dark humor is hard to do because it's easy to fuck up and end up genuinely hurting people. Shock humor is even harder to properly do because it easily devolves into just being a fucking asshole. Shock humor doesn't have nearly as much of the necessary structure of most humor, and dark humor in particularly needs a lot of the structure to not be offensive or cruel. Shock humor is a subset of dark humor, so by proxy it is extremely difficult to get right. And when you get it wrong, you better fucking own up to it, not just this "sorry you're oFfEnDeD" bullshit.
as a trans poc, he is not forgiven. his apology was so fake, he just doesnt wanna be deplatformed. he deserves to get his account taken away after the hate he caused. hes done this many times, he is awful. he needs to learn his actions have consequences and wont just go away because he made a phony apology.
as a trans & queer individual i second this entire statement. It's rancid.
@@hearts.and.stars17 I... third this? Idk how I'd word it lmao(I'm trans and queer as well).
@@Isaac.cariani I fourth BECAUSE WHAT IS THIS "APOLOGY"
Honestly same. I’m a transdude and I do not forgive him for this. He’s a hateful little man
honestly. the hate he causes doesn’t just go away because he apologised. the acceptance of the apology is dependent on who he’s apologising to and as another trans poc, it’s a really… bad apology.
His problem is he has a complete misunderstanding of what 'dark humour' actually is, and how comedians are able to use it well to challenge an audience. It's not punching down. And a good indicator of whether you're doing it well or not are the audience you're attracting. If they're all in your comments saying this was "jokes", they're all British school boys, and that is not a good sign.
imo it's not necessarily misunderstanding the definition, just using it as a codeword to find other fascists. the "humor" part just gives them an excuse for when someone calls them out on it. they're hella racist/transphobic etc. but. don't have the balls to explain why they have the opinions they do so they just go "haha jesus calm down, it was just a joke" when it was obviously pretty serious.
i matched with a guy on tinder once that had dark humor in his profile. he was like so you like racist jokes? I'm not a racist i just make racist jokes. because it's funny. me and my black family make racist jokes so we get a pass, black people can't be racist! oh you think I'm a thinly veiled racist? wel then you're a karen
Exactly. When I heard him say that, I thought "we must have different definitions of dark humour". It's not just being as offensive as possible, you do, for one, actually have to be funny
@@choclatchipcookie Yup. It's just another dogwhistle.
I'm just wrapping up a quarter in college all about studying humor. Time and time again it was stated to effectively create dark humor, you must punch up. Dark humor is never to harass someone, but to either share your own experiences, or to punch up. They use dark humor as a mask to voice their real thoughts, it's as simple as that. This isn't humor, it's bigotry presented in a laughing form.
Honestly, I don’t see how anything Snowy Joe does is humor. Man can barely speak a sentence without mumbling his words.
I hate when people say stuff like 'offended' or 'hurting someones feelings' instead of acknowledging that what theyre saying is actually hate speech. Hate speech is hate speech regardless of if it affects someone else or hurts their feelings or not
this!!
Those things are not mutually exclusive, people are "offended" or "had their feelings" hurt due to the "hate speech" they are the direct result of it, both statements are true, one is just using the trigger words. If no one was "offended" or "had their feelings hurt" by said "hate speech" then who in fact would be the victim of said "hate speech" and if there is no victim then are you not just thought policing at that point?
@@ZedNull. i half agree with this, but hate speech is hate speech because itt is fueled by hate
@zednull9867 I know this is really old but the example in my head would be if someone said something really transphobic in a room full of cis straight people, that would potentially not offend anyone that heard the transphobic comments but I would still consider it hate speech since it just wasnt heard by the community but is still fueled by hate for them
It's so frustrating that racism is seen as funny, as if I'm not traumatized from that shit since I was a kid
even in the video when he makes the dog joke to the Asian streamer you can see her reaction, shes obviously shocked and upset. she and other poc have had to deal w shit like this forever, and all he can do is mock her.
@@owolivia That's what he doesn't get. He just doesn't understand how racism still impacts people today. It's like he refuses to see it or acknowledge it. He doesn't know how bad Asian hate-crimes were these past two years or has never bothered paying attention. My father is traumatized from racism as well and seeing people like Joe pass off racism and harassment as 'jokes' is disheartening. Especially when his audience sees nothing wrong with it. It's like nothing is changing.
I'm sorry for that, it fcking sucks. Broke my heart the kid part, because it's so true.
Idiots tend to think that just because they said something shocking and appalling that they’re being funny. What they don’t realize is that they aren’t funny, they’re just racist.
I am asian, south west asian (turkish) i live in europe and i experience( and used to)racism. I used to receive racism back then like a lot. People would call me slurs, tell me to "go back to my own country", call me a criminal and they would me to -ênď- myself. I still struggle with my identity but i hate when racism is seen as funny or as a joke. It honestly makes me furious. :(
The Danny Gonzales jump scare really took me out for a minute ngl
Not Nick saying “who is this guy?”😭😤
Ikr
when he said that i was like “dang i like danny :( “
when?
@@stubbs7861 they made a video together actually :')
also saying “sorry to anyone who was offended” is passive language, he’s totally putting the blame for being hurt on the people HE hurt
I don't get it
@@luxcyrus3754 by phrasing it without including himself in the statement, he’s avoiding blame. if he’d said “sorry to the people i offended” that would be including him as the person doing the action, but by saying “sorry to anyone who was offended” he’s removing himself from the equation and making it seem like it wasn’t his fault even though he was the person doing the offensive things.
it’s the same as “sorry, but-“ or “i’m sorry that you…” it’s not a valid apology because they push the blame on something or someone who isn’t themself.
@@bangchanstan fr. This are only applicable when someone is not sorry for the actual actions, which in a case like this says a lot about his character
That's like saying 'I'm sorry you're such a snowflake that you can't understand my superior humour'
What he's doing isn't dark humor. What he's doing is bullying, harassment, and abuse.
I hate it when people call their abusive behavior "dark humor".
The term "dark humor" is so misused now, dark humor is just an excuse to be racist or homophobic now
I never wanna hear the words "dark humor", "irony", and "satire" from these people ever again.
i think the worst part is that when snowy joe made those ‘apologies’ all of his fans were like. cheering him on and saying he did nothing wrong and that the people deserved it. the community he’s made and enabled continuously is just gross lol even if he does genuinely mean an apology it won’t stop his fanbase from being horrible
Fans like that are often kids/teens who are idolizing someone beyond anything reasonable because they're almost looking at someone like that as someone of authority, so they just default to the mentality that they could do no wrong, and it must be everyone elses fault to them.
@@Tree-House69 oh yeah totally. as someone who used to idolise a youtuber in a similar way when i was like 13 it’s just kinda sad to see. but then again i don’t really feel bad for them being so seemingly unhealthily obsessed w him when he’s openly a horrible person lmaoo
@@Tree-House69 I don't even believe these are all kids. There are also tons of adults who will encourage content creators like Snowy
@@Tree-House69 yeah my friend has some really shitty friends and I'm worried about him. I was worried about his safety about me questioning my identity because I didn't want them to associate him as "oh is that you're little **** budy."
In his(Joey's) discord (during the raid) ppl would send pride flags burning to ppl who spoke out so def very bad fans
it sucks because if he wasnt bullying minorities it would be an atrocity that nobody would think to commit, but since hes harrassing groups that are already marginalized and oppressed its just “dark humor.”
just another example of systemic racism
Facts
Yep.
Bullying if they're cis, dark humour if they're trans, for example (when related to stereotypes/traits related to those identities)
exactly the opposite of what dark humor is
As a genderfluid poc, he absolutely sucks. He's just "apologizing" because he doesn't want to get banned. His "edgy dark humour" is not humour, it harms actual people. As Kurtis Conner once said "it's not dark humour, you're just an a-hole" .
Genderfluid poc?
@@UndeadAhead good job bud, you can read. Do you want a cookie?
@@awkwardukulele6077 LMFAO
@@awkwardukulele6077 I was asking what it meant.
@@UndeadAhead genderfluid: do not identify with a fixed gender; poc: person of color
To preface, I’m 14 and I live in Norway.
I’ve started noticing how outwardly fucked the boys of my generation is. Here’s some stuff I’ve seen them do over the past two years (unless stated otherwise):
Asking a teacher if “well if humans used to all be black doesn’t that mean I can say the n-word?” (From the whitest guy in class)
Asked a poc guy in class if he could say the n-word.
Making a fun of a kid who couldn’t speak right in front of him.
Asking that same kid questions about his language (he’s Asian) and doing racist stereotypes in front of him.
Saying the Norwegian F-slur and the English one.
Throwing a snowball right in my friend’s lunch and one right in her face.
Going up to my friend, calling her fat, laughing about it, then walking away.
Saying stuff like “you aren’t gay right” and “dude that’s so SUS/Gay” (sometimes despite the somber faces on the people they’re saying it to)
Cheating on their girlfriend (usually tricking other girls to)
Pressuring relationship boundaries
Non consensual touching (this has lasted since about 6th grade)
Once in 4th or 5th grade a guy ran into the girls locker and pulled my towel off, then ran out. (Shows this behaviour starts young)
Almost all of these things were done with teachers in ear range or eye sight. Usually with a teacher in the room. Despite this none of the guys have ever faced any type of punishment. It does not stop at jokes. It never stops at “just jokes”. Content creators with a younger fan base need to stop ingraining these things and making them sound acceptable. We cannot keep normalising this behaviour.
Because this type of behaviour ages like fine wine. It never stop until it’s called out.
Omg my old school sucked there was this group of boys who made one of those tier lists of girls and the highest ranking was "would r*pe" and lowest was the n slur...
One of those boys also made a tik tok saying the n slur
There was also this one girl who was being really homophobic but its fine cus another girl beat her up and it was the funniest thing she was just on the ground screaming not being able to do a thing
no one asked
@@yfernand here's an idea, maybe shut up if you're not going to contribute anything to a conversation
@@yfernandI asked
@@milacolman who
He obviously can't stop with the "edgy" humor, because bigoted bullying is the entirety of his content. Take away "jokes" at the expense of the marginalized and there's literally nothing left.
exactly. he has no content, and no audience, if he's not attacking or profiling other people. snowy joe is so dreadfully uninteresting that he needs to rely on regurgitating outrageous, cookie cutter opinions to garner views.
I love how this monster is one of his own making. It's easy to belive that he has some idea that the racists, nazis and various -phobes who follow him is all he has. Like he's already a shitty person but now he has to really commit to the worst of that shitty behavior or else he has nothing. How pathetic
he is litterally that guy who peaked in high school and thought he was the shit for bullying kids
Take away jokes from Nick’s videos and there is still plenty of content. Take away this dude’s “jokes” though… I can’t say the same.
He has been making youtube videos like this since he was like 12. I went back to his first videos and he looks like a baby. He needs to grow up and reflect on himself.
I don't care about his apology. He claims to have changed, but he clearly hasn't. This is ridiculous. He should've known what he was doing was wrong from the beginning, not after all the backlash.
Ok mate. Everyones scared now😱
@@Lavishh tf
idk man at this point im pretty sure he KNEW he was doing wrong but thats a problem that i've been seeing for a long time now, it kinda doesnt matter what kind of attention some people get, wether its negative or not its still attention and he is CLEARLY seeking for it, mans just a natural asshole smh
@Lavish ??? Ok, bro. Cool criticism?
He respects you if you threaten his career I guess. Cause he punches down.
its really rare to see cis creators fully stand up against transphobia and creators targeting transphobic attacks against specific creators the way you are, nick. saying you support trans rights is thankfully is not all that uncommon nowadays, but making a stance as aggressively as you have in this video is. i truly appreciate the way you stand up for my trans siblings, you make this world a better one for us to live in. thank you for calling out snowy joe the way you have.
yall mfs strong af for having to put up with dumbasses like snowy joe. Much respect honestly
@@NoNeedForLungs i hope ya get that toyota one day
@@LillianaLobster thanku, much appreciated🙏🏼
@@NoNeedForLungs do you have one yet?
Off topic but when you realize someone is talking about you is very weird. like ya support your trans siblings.. oh wait I m a bad sibling
Whoever cuts his hair clearly hates him. It’s not just us.
best comment. why does this only have 33 likes oml
@@vintagejai1 lol thanks man
Dark humor? He straight up committed a hate crime.
Right
right like his “dark humor” is almost the equivalent of saying an offensive slur he can’t reclaim and then saying it was just a joke
@@deecartier7376 I can't tell if this right is sarcastic or agreeing with the op 😭😭😭
That one guy faking DMs is terrible, both in the act and how badly it's done. I was mad at first but the phrase "put into reality" was so dumb I just laughed for several minutes straight. So thank you both for covering this and exposing me to that.
“People like you need to be put into reality” would make me feel flattered, like I’m their fantasy, or the real world needs more people like me.😊
@Rhys Luff irony considering that’s blatantly what you’re doing in the comments. Maybe if you stopped projecting and looked at yourself you wouldn’t be so miserable to cry in the comments.
@Rhys Luff 2 sentences is an essay now? Tell my college teacher this plsssss
@Rhys Luff I love how well you know me 🥺
@Rhys Luff my god you’re so miserable, is really sad and cringe to see
There's a whole generation of people who have a complete misunderstanding of what dark humour is, anyone that uses it as an excuse for bigotry is properly stupid.
Talking about bigots and bigotry when the left leaning parasites are more bigots than the right leaning parasites.
As a queer poc its honestly really nice to see u defending trans people and people of color. Usually only people who are part of the community care and its really great to see someone with a large platform fight for us.
"I use dark humor." There are actually talented people that know how to make dark humor without resorting to harassment, bullying, or putting someone down. This is just hacky.
also because dark humour means joking about death / your own trauma. joking about other’s trauma and bad experiences is NOT ok, and you can’t pretend it’s just a joke.
Dark humor, if you're not joking about your own experience, almost always needs to be based on something fictional. A fictional car crash, a fictional bombing, a fictional death, etc. As soon as you link it to a real event or phenomenon it's punching down on victims.
yea I hate how dark humor has been butchered so badly lately. People will think dark humor= being racist, transphobic, sexist, and or ableist when that's not it. Or at least it isn't considered good dark humor. It's trash. Saying something offensive is a joke when there is no structure or punchline to it does not make it a joke.
@@starojunes "I'm just so edgy 🤪"
"No, you put others down and you have the maturity levels of a child. That's why your audience is mostly children. And like a lot of channel just like yours, they're going to grow out of it. You can't guarantee the next generation is also going to like your content. Content like yours is expendable, uncreative, and has no value. LOL just my dark humor coming through 😜!!
@@Vincisomething Tiny nitpick, a lot of children do not grow out of it and just grow up racist/homophobic/etc.
Honestly it’s just mind losing how many kids joe and his friends have radicalized with their content. The “it’s just edgy jokes/dark humor” to being a genuinely hate filled bigot pipeline is a very real thing that more people need to be addressing and made aware of. It’s not just a difference of opinions or not liking someone, this isn’t middle school (though it is for many of snowy joes fans I’m sure) it’s the real world where real people are being harmed and affected, and joe thinking he can just get away with LITERALLY the most textbook CZcamsr apology play is disgusting, because it shows how little he thinks of us, the communities he’s mocking and attacking
Exactly. When I was younger, even fucking iDubbbz radicalized me to be a piece of shit, and his videos weren’t even close to as bad as Joe’s (minus the n word since Joe doesn’t say it in his vids). I’m afraid for the next generation since the shit Joe and many others make now are so horrible and these children look up to him. I was able to escape the pipeline, and I can only hope these kids don’t get sucked in too far and can escape.
If you'd like to watch a video about this topic, check out "The Pewdiepie Pipeline". It is really interesting and puts a lot of things in perspective!
“It’s just a joke” type of people piss me off so much. Like #1 it was never “just a joke” in the first place & #2 your intentions don’t matter when your being bigoted, you still need to be held accountable for your shitty behavior.
it's so easy to fall into that edgy humour pipeline and come out of it a right-leaning bigot. anyone who doesn't believe they could fall victim to it and it's dangers are among those most vulnerable to it. i was a nonbinary bisexual person before i was sucked into that pipeline, and when i finally broke out of it i reidentified as such. EVERYONE is vulnerable to it because it is such a pervasive thing. it's pure pipeline propaganda, that whole 'dark humour' bullshit is so prevalent online, especially in gaming communities which is where i mostly grew up online. it's grooming and it's brainwashing and you're ignorant and unknowing of the damage you're doing and it's some of the worst stuff i think i've ever done and breaking out of that conditioning was the most healing and liberating thing i've done. the damage that's been done to people in the pipeline and the victims of the pipeline can't be undone, but educating people about it, how easy it is to get sucked in, how to avoid it and how to spot it is extremely extremely important especially in the political climate of 2022.
People like these make it so hard to see if the jokes or memes i see are either hate speech or just an actual joke
But when you callout how bad the joke is, they radicalise you and call you *Autistic* 😐
I love how this dude called his channel “edgy” in his already terrible apology. It’s not edgy, it’s harassment.
“His content isn’t aimed towards you”, that’s so true, it’s for highly impressionable young people who will learn to repeat his actions or hate their identities because of his actions
dark humor is making fun of your own trauma to cope not being racist
fr this guy has no idea of the concept of punching up
FR
fr
right like his “dark humor” is almost the equivalent of saying an offensive slur he can’t reclaim and then saying it was just a joke
Do people forget that normal folks can lose their careers if they conduct themselves poorly? It's not going to be any different for content creators. If you spit on someone at a retail job, you're going to lose your job. If you harass a coworker and make them feel unsafe at your corporate job, you're going to lose your job. This creator is actively compromising the safety of others who are also trying to maintain an online presence, so why should he not also lose his job?
exactly
I doubt he's gonna face any real consequences unfortunately. Maybe he'll just tone down his content for a bit until people forget and then go back to his ways
exactly! if I report someone to hr for being trans/homophobic or racist thats not bullying/harassing/targeting them in any way, that's just how jobs work. people (should) face consequences in any career.
yeah it's always funny to me when youtubers and influencers complain about this stuff. if you're gonna have being a youtuber/influencer as your main job then act like it. you can't be harrassing people and then crying about losing your job
I can't wait for it to happen to me
Waiting for the inevitable is like waiting for a bomb to go off
Omg YES. I'm tired of the argument that we overreact to creators "making mistakes" by "holding them to a higher moral standard" and "risking their livlihoods over small mistakes" when they do stuff like harrass people, endanger others, and film dead bodies. If they value their internet fame, they should be careful with what they do like any other job. Respecting other people and not harassing or endangering them at their expense is the BARE MINIMUM of keeping a normal job. If being a content creator is a job, people have to treat it like any other job.
the random danny “whats up greg” had me so confused
as a trans art streamer I appreciate you not letting that jerk get away that easily. thanks for taking a stand.
that guy purposefully bullied and harassed people. he knew what he did. nobody takes that apology seriously. and nobody will accept that apology.
When people use "essentially" this often, they're trying to convey that they're boiling down the problem to its roots and addressing it BUT in an apology it's to minimize the damage they've actually done. It's desensitization of their traumatic impact on the people they've hurt. It's to isolate their actions to avoid responsibility.. You cannot isolate this like an independent variable.. it's a pattern. He's past damage control which is what he's desperately trying to do, but it's just gaslighting lol
interesting way to look at the usage of "essentially" in this context
perfectly worded
Also the way he misuses the word "dark humor" there's ways of telling dark humor without harassing a group of people and actually being funny... (I seriously hate people like this I'm heated lol)
@@theevilbean yeah I hear you, it's not dark humor at all, it's just harassment and degradation. It's funny because people who are subjected to this type of behaviour (that he's inflicting) do end up using dark humor a lot- to cope and process abuse...
@@ashna.19 exactly, its only dark humor to him because he doesn't experience any of this and never will (meaning discrimination)
Why even apologize if you never reflect on what you actually did wrong? Don’t be sorry just because what you posted was unpopular… figure out why people were actually upset and then reflect on that! Everything else is just pandering bs
He’s scared he’s gonna lose his source or income. His entire channel is shitty “edgy” humour (bigotry). He apologized because he is self serving.
He’s only apologizing because he saw that people especially nick were trying to take his platform away (for justified reasons). He saw that they sent their fans to report his channel for breaking tos and decided to put out an apology that would hopefully get them off his back. He’s not really pandering he is just trying to keep his platform
Exactly!! I'd rather he not apologize and double down than to make a fake apology. At least it's honest
right ??? like we’re people not taught as kids to apologize by saying “im sorry (whoever you’re apologizing to) for (whatever you did). i won’t do it again” ???? like did others not learn that ???
i'm bi and trans and there is no way i will ever forgive this man for what he did. i won't forgive him for giving transphobic, homophobic, and racist people "entertainment".
there is so justification of harassing someone. it's disgusting.
if he ever actually learns and becomes a better person, good for him. but the way this is looking so far, it doesn't seem that it will ever happen.
Sometimes the fight against homophobia and transphobia feels endless. I get called slurs and attacked every single day at school for being lesbian. Sometimes it feels like I should just give up and shove myself back into the closet and try to be straight. So I don’t have to deal with harassment and fear I feel in public and within my family. It’s honestly so refreshing to see people that are not in the LGBTQ+ community fighting the fight with us. Seeing people like Nick fill me with courage and empowerment and I’m so happy creators are using their platforms for things like Nick. I’m not great with words but in the end I just want to send out appreciation to people like Nick and Nick himself for wanting to eradicate bigotry just like the communities affected by it.
Dark humor, to me anyways, doesn't connect to making hurtful comments and bullying little kids and transgenger people. It is a style of comedy making light of serous subject matters, like death, war, politics, etc...If that is honestly what he is going to claim he's doing, then he needs to learn what that really is. I'd prefer him off youtube completely, but at the very least he should be age restricted.
Exactly! Laughter is the best medicine for coping with grief, depression, etc, joking about those heavy topics in a healing way is what dark humor really is. Not this crap.
fr! I have a dark/morbid sense of humor- I joke about difficult thoughts and situations I am going through or have gone through. I don’t make fun of people using their race, that’s just racism 🤦🏻♀️
@@sourgreendolly7685 I think he takes "dark humor" a little too literally...
I could take humor aimed at my own if it's actually kinda clever but his shit is just playground bullying as an adult. I feel actual second hand embarrassment to see a grown man acting like this.
i always joke about my terrible mental health as a way of coping, not the healthiest way but it's a way of staying on line for me, but that guy just crosses every line possible and doesn't realize that even a small action can have gigantic consequences
I'm from England and he reminds me of the bullies that were in my school. To this day, these kinds of people make my skin crawl.
his content is not entirely based off of harassing people. it’s *essentially* based off of harassing people.
Lmao
Snowyjoes content pains me, as someone from Britain I can tell you that Joe’s audience is filled to the brim with the exact same, homophobic, transphobic and racist people that think “dark humour” and “offensive jokes” are the peak of comedy. Which is why the like to dislike ratios are typically good, because these types of people are everywhere in this country (and by that I mean mainly children). In the past I’ve been friends with people who like this type of content and I’ve seen them post “dark humour tiktoks”, including some that still stick with me to this day. Lots of British people’s humour is genuinely terrible, i wish I could express just how irritating a lot of the people here are, and the fact that these people think they’re in the right when making videos against you is so annoying given that they’re grown men. And it’s shocking knowing that these people actually believe that what they’re saying is okay. keep making fun of the accent, they deserve it
One of the more surprising things I've learned about this is just how transphobic a lot of the people over there are. I thought the US was bad, but transphobia seems much more ingrained and acceptable and "normal" in Britain. It's very strange. I could be wrong, of course
@@Zack-ef6se from what Ive seen its mostly teenagers around Joe’s age give or take a few years, I’ve seen it in younger people and I’ve seen it in older people. It’s very common over here, I see it often in school, in public and online. There’s a certain group of people in england that have a very specific type of humour but think it’s all “dark humour” and “edgy jokes” and will call people “snowflakes” when they are called out for hate speech. It’s infuriating
@CatastropheCrow i couldn't have put it better myself, you've described the exact type of people that do that, and you know how common it is to see. It genuinely is year 7 humour, some people just never grow out of it
As a Brit sometimes i forget how intolerable the majority of our men are, especially white straight men, and how many are influenced by such old fashioned views their fathers and their fathers father have. I can count on one hand men I've met in my life here that haven't either been extremely sexist, racist, homophobic, islamophobic etc. One reason I'll never be able to feel "Proud to be British" is how deeply rooted entitlement and close mindedness is in the men here, and how behind we are on speaking out against it and actually be taken seriously. I know there are people like this everywhere, but there's something about it that's so unapologetic and proud in Britain, there's no real consequences for those types of people. I mean to put it into perspective, all It really takes is a premiere league match to hear every slur under the sun from every man in the average english family.
@@chupawup4517 100% I'm so lucky to work in an almost entirely female workforce. The 'lad' culture of male workplaces is kinda disgusting
using transphobia as "dark humor" is always bad but especially now, with everything going on, it feels even more hostile. if joe really feels bad he should show that by donating to a trans charity...
Or at the very least take down all of his transphobic content
sorry for my lack of knowledge but wdym by "everything that's going on"? /gen
@@ozge8262 Banning trans people from sports, trying to restrict care for trans youth…
@@ozge8262 essentially, texas has put out... i believe a law? stating that children who are openly trans must be taken away from their families, and the parents arrested, because apparently supporting your children for what they identify as is considered "child endangerment". that's a really basic summary, and maybe there's other attacks on trans people happening in other places as well. but that's the big one i can think of. i recommend looking it up to get the full scope because i'm sure i didn't give the full details but it's just... it's batshit down there like wtf- and that's not even getting into florida's "don't say gay" bill but i just decided to focus on the texas crap since that specifically targets trans youth.
@@ozge8262 In Texas, Florida, and soon Idaho, the governors hate trans people so much that they're willing to traumatize children over it, be it separating families by classifying the use of puberty blockers as child abuse or literally inspecting minor's bodies to see if they're trans.
As a trans person who constantly gets harassed online for being trans and having it dismissed by moderators, admins, etc. Who tell me "this is the internet grow a thicker skin" or who side with the people who harass me and try to tear me down or think it's "just a joke" thank you for standing against people like this.
y’know the funny part about it is that; even after two months of this, he’s back to his old shit. harassing anyone he can find that is at risk of being subjected to said harassment. just nine days ago he made a video titled “picking up girls with dark humor” (or something along those lines). yeah, he’ll never fucking take a hint and just leave.
the fact that he is fully aware of the problematic things he does and says is just the biggest red flag. he doesnt want to change in any capacity and instead he does worse and worse things because he knows it will get him views and that his audience dont understand the issues in the same way because they are children who likely arent exposed the other side of it. I hate the idea that children can be exposed to people like this and that they will grow up either better people because they want to grow away from this shit or worse people because they normalise this behaviour. as someone who isnt british but has lived in england for over 10 years now, i feel that the english idea of humor is more deadpan and because of that it allows people to make jabs and blame it on the type of humor theyve grown up on rather than on their own biases. also, it isnt dark humor to be racist, homophobic, or sexist, its just being an arsehole.
@Rhys Luff ight and
Asia I read the whole thing and you’re right💙and you expressed your self really well
@@michellemulenga3053 thank you, i try my best to be understood properly
You’re 💯 right, dude. This Joe guy is such a coward.
@Rhys Luff idk if you’ve read an essay before because this is nowhere near as long as one, it’s not that hard to read a YT comment longer than a few lines and if you don’t want to, nobody needs to know 🤷
And to OP, agreed
the cat's tail getting right in front of nick's face is funnier than anything this joe guy has ever done
reading that creators tweets really broke me. people are genuinely being affected by this and you can tell snowy joe, his fans, and his friend could care less. i hope his account gets taken down.
13:08 not danny just popping up out of nowhere😭
🏳️⚧️TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS🏳️⚧️
THANKS NICK! WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS REALLY SHITTY AND IT AFFECTS PPL A LOT, IT'S NOT EASY TO DEAL WITH TRANSPHOBIA WHEN YOU'RE THE TARGET
So true
Nahh
YES EXACTLY!!!
nice name lol 😉😘 yeye trans rights are human rights
No
The worst part about this whole situation is that his fans legitimately think behaving like this is something to admire and laugh at. If he really does want to change, his best bet is to start over while building a fan base that will support his new content(if it ever actually changes)
I mean hey, he is something to laugh at. He’s got the clown act down.
And the worst part is his fan base are probable younger boys/men. He’s spreading this behavior to 200000 people who’ll think that being racist /transphobic/fatphobic is okay. He’s pure trash.
@@HeyItsmeImAlex well those boys won’t get far with that attitude in life
@@nic_aya Unfortunately, historically, boys with that attitude have gone far, take a look at parliament :'(
Ok, when the fuck did 'dark humour' become a euphemism for bigotry and assholery? Like when did we go ' funny morbid humor that pokes fun at our existential dread'?- No!
Racism and tranphobia?- YES
around 2015-16 it became like that I think
like 2017
As someone who is poc, non-binary, and bisexual, this video means a lot for the LGBTQ+ community and minorites in general. I saw your first video on Snowy Joe and already didn't like the dude the moment you showed his content. This dude masks his homophobic, transphobic, sexist, and racist remarks behind "dark humor" and it's honestly kinda disrespectful. Dark humor is more of a jab at a certain audience while making sure it's not downright offensive, this man just says offensive things and thinks it's funny. And the community he fostered from this is almost radicalization at worst. So the fact that he tried to double down on his statements and then back into a corner with his tail tucked between his knees trying to say he's sorry honestly shows how pathetic this dude is.
Thank you for showing us how horrible this man is and keep making great content.
More people need to do shit like this. I'm tired of people hiding behind edgy online personalities to do things that would just be hate crimes in some countries. Dudes watch shit like that then get into office and try to ban trans kids or some shit.
*cough* Texas *cough*
Fr tho man
Exactly
still not over snowy joe saying 'no snowflakes' when his name is literally snowy joe
Probably cuz he's white as snow
@@ash2833 heheh gender fluid gang💅💅💅
very poor choice of words snowy joe.
@@broadex9080 frfr
snowy joe is what happens when the guy that moans in the back of the class goes youtube famous
You're not "abusing your power" or manipulating anybody, Nick. You're taking a stand against awful bullying and harassment and it's admirable. Hopefully Joe's channel and career can come to a swift end.
Thank you for actually having principles and being a good person, and for using your platform to help smaller, marginalised people. You're a great person and creator.
i pledge allegiance to greenisnotnick
I second thus
I third thus
@@ratstanduser I fourth thus
fifth!
I sixth this!
proud of you for actually taking a stand against this dude nick. as a member of the lgbtq+ community i seriously appreciate you using your platform to spread such important information even though you didn’t have to. i don’t normally comment on yt videos but i really wanted to say this. appreciate you a ton
Exactly what I was thinking!
Yessir
Same💟
Couldn’t have said it better
Same. Stuff like this happens to lgbt creators (and minorities in general) and it’s horrible.
Dark humour is say... a joke about a miscarriage not directed at anyone. Not dark humor. Literally bullying someone while they cant talk back
Exactly. It’s like making fun of a kid w/ cancer and then making fun of somebody’s actual alive child w/ cancer.
Do it metaphorically not literallu
He made a video 2 weeks ago about selling meat outside vegan burger king, so obviously still harrasing people
Ontologically evil
Loved the point about how the content isn’t aimed for trans people, its aimed at them. All of their language just shows how little they care about their actions and the people they hurt.
as a transgender longterm watcher of nick, seeing him handle the situation the way he did makes me feel alot safer. knowing i probably go to school with kids who watch snowy joe and other creators like him who think its normal and ok to go and harass trans and queer people is scary, but nick and others like danny gonzales give me alot of hope :)
as a non-binary person, same. it’s kinda the bare minimum, but it really helps when others don’t even do that. i’m really grateful for people like nick, danny, kurtis, ect. especially when i’m (and most other lgbtq+ people are) surrounded with people who think almost exactly like snowy joe.
by ‘the bare minimum’, i don’t mean nick standing up for us, because that’s amazing obviously, but just the fact that even lgbtq+ being accepted by him is so uncommon with people like snowy joe in the world. hope that clarified it if it didn’t make sense lol/gen
@@altacc1724 there are only 2 genders
As a trans person we really have enough to deal with. If he was really sorry and not just trying to save his ass he wouldve private messaged the people he hurt instead of making a video about it.
there are only 2 genders
“What’s up Greg today w-“ “UGH WHOS THIS GUY”
people get fired or lose their spots at university for posting bigoted things online, how is deplatforming someone like this any different?
you have been very rude to me and i don't think i deserve that
Haha Brit also hey Jordan Adika what's up
Edit: I didn't watch the video when I wrote this and assumed Nick made fun of British people again lmao, sorry
you need to be put into reality 😤😤😤
Indeed
what are you doing lurking in this comment section 🤨🐸
TW: british people
“Dark humour” is just an excuse to be offensive and shit without getting cancelled.
gay bingus!!
It’s genuinely disturbing to me how many CZcams “comedians/trolls” have contributed to the alt-right pipeline and gotten away with it for so long. I was in middle school during the height of this “dark humor” “cringe” phase (around 2016 or so) and I had to watch so many of my peers fall down this pipeline and actively try to endanger my life.
He wasn't sorry when he did all these terrible things.
He was "sorry" when people called him out on it.
I hope Snowy Joe and his friends watch this, LISTEN for once, and really let the words sink in until they understand the real harm they’re causing by literally just being huge assholes. Also isn’t cyber-bullying illegal???
They know what they’re doing, they just don’t care
Shits dystopian that you guys wanna ban cyber bullying lol
@@TheRightTrackPod not really. Even when people first started using the internet and social media there were rules that you shouldn’t bully anyone on there. Ofc ppl did and always will but it has always technically gone against the rules
Yes guys u guys have no life you just type hate comments yess
@@asnowy06 But the OP's comment is AGAINST hate. I think that was very clear.
Of course that guy has a Logan Paul drink in the background because trash will always be attracted to trash.
The thing is that like, if they really did step back and ask “why doesn’t Nick and his fan base like Joe?” They wouldn’t come back and say “because he’s harassing people and claiming it’s just jokes even after it’s pointed out and proven to him that it ruins their lives and makes things difficult for them” (which is the very definition of evil, btw), they’d say “because he doesn’t get the jokes, he doesn’t get that’s it’s all just jokes”. HE and HIS friends have manipulated CHILDREN into excusing horrendous bullying and harassment by insisting it’s just jokes and have no repercussions when they know for a fact they do, and even more so by making up shit about nick to try and push their own agenda.
Im offended that snowy joe and his friends think we are so easily manipulated. How Rude
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@@cricket22player6 you asked someone "your brain stopped working?" for a perfectly understandable comment and now you don't even understand this? Joe, s'that you?
@@bandamani did they delete a comment? the only one I see is a "?" that was unedited
@@DespOIcito nah they were replying to a few other comments and the other I mentioned was just a couple up from this one.
@@bandamani Then why not say that under their initial comment when all they said in this thread was a ?
honestly nick thank you so much for taking as much time as you have, not only here but on twitter, to address the situation and joes channel as a whole. seeing someone actively trying to make the platform a safer place from bigoted assholes makes, at least me as a queer person, feel so incredibly thankful and makes me remember that there are people out there who aren’t just in it for the fame etc but who really want to make a difference and to help. so fr thank you nick for not being afraid to address this shit head on, so many of us appreciate much more than you know
this!! yes!!
Snowy Joe boils down to: “Well *I* don’t find it offensive so you shouldn’t either” like homie thats not how that works. You can’t belittle minorities under the guise of dark humor if you can’t and will never relate to that experience. And even then dark humor isn’t blatantly offensive, it’s supposed to make light of a dark situation. Your own, personal situation.
Danny gonzales really caught me off guard im sorry💀
“What’s up Greg” “who the fuck is this person”
I'am actually laughing at his first tweet vs the second... LOL "I cannot defend myself for the things I've done have been too bad" vs his original "I'm still gonna be transphobic LOLLLL"
He’s not going to stop the “dark” humor, because the community that he’s fostered is way worse than him and his group of friends, and so their only gonna watch him when he’s making offensive content.
@Rhys Luff The problem is that his content isn’t humor. It’s just offensive content. Did you not see when the trans creator that was harassed by him stated how she felt?
I’m sure you don’t care though since you commented more than 15 times on this video trying to defend him. You’re honestly sad.
@@tropicaltoast6609 Glad I'm not the only one who noticed. This sucker is in most of peoples' replies. It's obsession and just being plain pathetic.
@@monstershi1423 Yeah also in another reply he said that Ukraine deserved it, don’t really see the “humor” in that
@Rhys Luff he’s harassing marginalized communities. This isn’t a “we don’t like the content”, he’s literally actively harming people.
@Rhys Luff Your response leads me to believe you’re at most twelve. Either that or you have the emotional maturity of a twelve year old.
“I’m sorry that YOU were offended.”
A classic.
all my mind can think is kurtis Conner intro there is something wrong with me
FRR
Joe seems so weird. How is he trying to be a better person this year and posted that garbage in March. Why do people even apologize anymore.
Your brain stopped working?
They apologize just to SAY they apologized. It's an excuse for him and his defenders to say "hey I/he apologized!!!!" and essentially tell people to get over it while not actually growing as a person
@@meiday154 this brain-dead person is saying what's the point in apologizing anymore.
@@cricket22player6 no.. it hasn't. Your comment does not make any sense.
@@star0nyx yours doesn't either xx
i thought “dark humor” was supposed to be making fun of yourself and not other people?? none of these people know how to do it correctly 🤦🏻♀️
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Wrong comment
Sorry about that
@@everestgreenest it’s all good!
"Continuous and severe lapse in judgment" type beat
Lol his most recent video is literally 'picking up girls using dark humour' he's really just acting like nothing happened. But he's getting a LOT less views which is somewhat satisfying
and for anyone who thinks that attacking his livelihood is wrong, know that he is a cis white man and he would have zero problem finding a job offline. the same is not necessarily true for the queer creators he attacks, who have far less privilege and in many cases are not legally protected. if and hopefully *when* his channel is taken down, he will be fine.
That and if you were acting like this in any other job, you'd lose it for harassment, so it shouldn't be any different now
Agreed but also regardless of privilege, anyone who has a job where they choose to directly harm people (emphasis on the word “choose” because there’s lots of other kinds of content he could make) should not have that job. It’s irresponsible of CZcams to allow his videos and it’s morally fucked on snowyjoe’s part. He doesn’t deserve a platform if this is what he’ll do with it.
i will never have a job
@@CnctCnpire why did you say in another comment thread that you "can't wait" to lose your job
If it weren't for the "I won't stop with the dark humor sh" tweet I'd think his latest tweet apology sounds genuine compared to the norm, shot himself in the foot a bit there, I could only hope some of the sentiments said in the latest one were actually his own. 🤷♂️
Definitely.
Why did the folks clap × fart joke feel more kurtis conner than himself
Dark humor only works if YOU'RE the one that experiences the dark part of it! I hate that people like Joe use a coping strategy marginalized people use to further marginalize those people. I've been quite lucky as a trans person, but that doesn't mean I haven't been discriminated against by doctors, teachers, family, or peers. We *all* have or *will* at some point, entirely because of people like Joe normalizing it. Thank you Nick ♥
I cannot believe that it seems like he’s implying that what he said to his fan was ‘fine’ because the kid claimed he found it to be funny. Of course he wouldn’t say he was hurt, he was probably too embarrassed to say so to someone he looks up to, specially because he probably has a similar mentality to Joe and reasons that because it was supposed to be a joke then he shouldn’t feel bad about it in the first place.
@@maxineervin8943 I'm also
Reall well put.
It's kinda sad how people get bullied for just being in the LGBTQ+ or for their race.
Very sad. It can drive people to commit suicide.
I'm sorry but the "what's up Greg :D" and the follow of who is this guy? was hilarious.
Thank you for using ur platform to speak against transphobia, it’s very heartwarming to see as a trans person
As one of your trans fans, thank you. My son also watches your videos and I'm so happy he does. You made me tear up. Big love for what you're doing with your platform.
His Tik toks still contain racist jokes and content that harass people. Has not changed whatsoever
Snowy Joe has a ridiculously short neck but you don’t see Nick making fun of it
That fake dm is so funny like the replies are nearly identical in nature so it’s obvious one person put it together
"a mistake".one singular mistake, yes joe, totally. ONE TINY LITTLE HARRASMENT NOT LIKE US TRANS PPL ARE OKAY WITH 20 MINS OF ATTACKING US AND LITERAL CHILDREN!
LMAO, that DM conversation is like an alien was asked to write someone threatening to mass report someone else on social media for some like textbook trying to point out and label each individual part of such an act. Not only does it not sound like you, it doesn't sound like ANYONE. The whole thing is just so unnatural.
There's a difference between dark humor and what he does. Dark humor is like "you don't need a parachute to go sky diving. You need a parachute to go sky diving twice." That's dark humor. What he does is just straightforward, unabashed harassment.
I'm a guy who really enjoys and appreiciates dark humour. What this creator is doing is not dark humour. It's tastless and disgusting. It baffles me how someone could lack so much respect for another human being. As a bi Asian, I'm thoroughly for the idea of having his channel taken down if this content does not cease. Also, I really love your content, even though I've only been following for a couple months
Funny he never admits his comments where racist and bigoted. It’s was just “not it” or “crossing the line”. That’s what we call racist, my guy. It was racist. It’ll still continue to be racist. But no he takes full responsibility and acknowledges what he did was wrong. But not racist.
His most recent video before he posted this apology was comments defending the people who he bullied, i replied to some of them in agreement and one even said back "surprised he hasn't deleted these comments yet" and today i checked again and he deleted them, good job snowy joe!
it means it's getting to him though. we should go over and comment more 😈
Just wanted to add one of his fans who invaded the feminist server ended up sending me animal porn if you can avoid them it’s not worth it to interact with them.
He’s now harassing vegans by selling meat in front of vegan places to eat, technically he’s changed, just not in a good way
I don't understand his thought process, why does he think that harrasing people for their life style is any better? He just goes after the low hanging fruit, cause people like to make fun of vegans means he is excused.
@@pertorvund he's just trying to target a group of people who he can't get banned for harassing, since it's not like hate speech and it's technically just him being a bully
That's so lame 😑 he's so desperate
"People like you need to be put into reality"
"Ok if you going to play it that way I will get my subscribers to report this account"
"Yes that's exactly what I'm doing if you don't leave me alone I will report you for harassment"
"You have been very rude to me and I don't think I deserve that"
Ah yes, sounds just like Nick. He's always had such a way with words 🥺
yes, "you need to be put into reality" is my favorite, very real quote of his. i'm wearing a t-shirt with that saying right now.
It sounds like whoever made it is not a native English speaker, no one that is would think that sounds normal