The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew - Frenemies #14
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Ethan: she tried to run me over with her car
Dr drew: You’re allowing yourself to be run over
Omgggg 😂😂😂
Lol - that's funny.
@@emmaispunk what part does this happen at
@@g3n3ssy its just a joke. Ethan said trisha was driving a wedge between hila’s family and dr drew said no, you’re allowing a wedge to be driven.... bruh
Made me laff
ethan: this is how me and my wife feel
literal therapist: don’t care it’s your fault ❤️
The heart got me 🤣
He’s an MD not a therapist
@@crocodileeye1141 whether or not this MD is a therapist, an MD generally can be a therapist, so your logic is off.
@@maxmeier532 MDs and therapists are completely different. In fact not even close to the same profession.
@@maxmeier532 what? Hell no... an MD is most definitely not a therapist....
It's been almost 3 years and dr drew still INFURIATES me
Me too like God damn
to the max.
Literally such a quack
Same I'm rewatching all of frenemies and I almost skipped this episode
@@nick_nic_nico No fr I always skip it tbh
Watching this 10 months later, wow. Dr. Drew completely blows off Ethan from the start, in the beginning he said “well that’s not even important” what? A brother and sister are being wedged apart due to Trishas actions and his PROFESSIONAL advice is to”relax and let it happen” WHAT
he was so condescending from the beginning and biased towards ethan. i remember watching this when it first aired and being pissed at all of "Dr" drews takes. everything he says is ethan has to deal with trisha cause she has special behavior that invalidates anything ethan is going through or dealing with.
literally! It’s so rude the way he just cuts him off and ignores him. I realized he was doing this the first time he was on the podcast.
!!!!!!!!
Dr. Drew is not a therapist.
Imagine going to a therapist and they cut you off and say "that's not important" while you're trying to explain something
Yeah that really annoyed me!!!
He’s not a therapist though. He’s an internal medicine doctor.
Dr Drew is kind of a dick 😳
@@sarahlara8420 What if it is completely unproductive to the overall process....??!?!?!??
Yes I was shocked that was so rude
As a licensed therapist, I am so aggravated. Dr. Drew is a joke just like Dr. Phil. Dr. Drew specializes in substance use, he should not be holding these sessions with them
For dr. Drws defense he did say they arent his patients and not a real session. But I do agree with you, he should stick with what he knows.
Hes such a joke, he oddly has to assert his dominance and bully men who are more in tuned with their emotions like ethan and bobby lee (hes just as unbearable when talking to bobby lee)
He's a huge quack... any licensed therapist would never put all the blame of someone else's outbursts on a secondary person. Also thank you for saying Dr. Phil too, he hasnt had a valid license in a very long while.
I thought he did pretty good with this mess. You must be a trish hater......because someone actually backed her up......he was bad at his job??? Pathetic and predictably lame. Ethan DOES nag and push constantly its annoying.
Yikes where did you get your licensing and where do you practice? Bc I’d like to avoid you at all cost.
A specialization does not mean you cannot provide other types of therapy. I’d think you would’ve learned that in your schooling?
ethan: “trisha tried to run me over”
dr drew: “see that’s just one of her episodes”
@@georgexander7170this is completely unrelated 😭
@@georgexander7170bye what 😭
@@georgexander7170George, no. No, George.
@@georgexander7170 lmao. Trans people are the gender they say they are. And THAT'S basic ass biology. Grow tf up.
@@georgexander7170ik ur a kid it's really obvious but that's such a horrible comparison like where did that even come from dude
I'm glad Ethan stands up for himself against Dr. Drew because he's is subtly attacking Ethan for no reason throughout the whole video
I thought this too, it's like passive aggression
as someone with a BPD diagnosis (because of trisha, lmfao) this was incredibly frustrating to rewatch for this exact reason
@@hogkanI feel like he’s very enabling to Trisha’s issues and it’s not helping anyone in fact it’s hurting.
Moses really needs to be held accountable for his role in this misunderstanding
YES THATS WHAT IM SAYING. the root of the problem IS moses
Yes. He needs to step the heck up and tell them both to cut it out. He needs to tell Trisha to stop saying stuff like that, first off if he is telling her that stuff in private, she needs to keep it in private. And he needs to tell them to stop talking about Trisha on their podcast. Simple as that.
This.👏🏼 Accountability!
AGREED
His personality is so weak
Dr Drew with Trisha: 🌝🌼🌻🌸✨🌟
Dr Drew with Ethan: 👺👹💥☄️🔥🌪
This'll be accurate if you edit the comment and remove the 'Dr' part.
Yesss
@@darkwebgirl why? He doesn’t have his doctorates?
I know it was getting on my nerves last night I had to turn it off. I really hope they don’t have him on again.
On god he must want some Trisha 😂😂
Ethan: I admit what I did wrong and I'm really sorry for actually bringing her up first
"Dr" Drew: No no no, you don't mean it
Ethan: Well.... I do mean it
"Dr" Drew: You have to make it clear cuz it might come back around to bite you
Ethan:
Me: 🤨
Frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Ethan : there’s more that I want to say
Dr Drew: it doesn’t matter
Ethan : *explains
Dr Drew: that was not important .
Dr Drew is so one sided
Ethan: can I say something?
Dr drew: absolutely not
Fr!
😂😂😂
LMAOOOO forreal
looool literally it was driving me mad !! :(
that part really bothered me. and then dr drew dismisses him with "thats not important"
Ethan: I can take Trisha’s jabs, but its affecting my wife and her family
Dr. Drew: Stop. That’s not important
LOL truuuuuuuuu
I mean he’s not wrong. Hila and Moses are grown ass adults and they need to work out what ever weird relationship thing they are going through and stop using Trisha. I mean Moses tells Trisha he hates his family and Hila tells Ethan to tell Trisha not to talk about her or her family. None of these people are actually talking to the person they should be and working it out amongst them. I mean god damn these are actual adults
Exactly. He is pissing me off so much and im only 25 minutes in.
shitting on dr drew gang rise up 😎
Dr Drew is so wrong for that lol. That's the main problem Ethan has with Trisha from my perspective.
I’m rewatching episodes now and why is no one questioning Moses? Because he’s the common denominator in all this. He is telling Trisha one thing and then Hila another. Trisha wasn’t driving a wedge, she is just saying information that is being told to her by Moses. It seemed like Moses was acting differently with Trisha and his family. In summary, Moses was definitely the issue and the person driving the wedge between everyone.
I completely agree with your analysis also given he is like 10 years older than her too. Like it just seems so sus.
i think that’s why they’re still at odd ends now. the main issue deep down was moses but with a big personality like trisha who has her own piece in destroying the relationship/family, he was overlooked. by the viewers anyways.
deffo Ethan said something in a podcast which ppl presumed was him trying to say they would probs make up with Trisha easier than Moses.
sooooooooo true
period
16:52 dr drews aggression towards ethan is so unprofessional. he acts like ethan is supposed to be a professional dealing with bpd and is responsible if she has a meltdown. hes also is a human and is 100% allowed to be upset at someone creating a wedge in his relationships. which ethan was handling so well and gets no credit for it
“That’s not important”
Ethan: 👁👄👁
hated that!!
Yep that might have come across as rude but Dr. Drew understood the situation going on without having to know the extra tiny bit of info ethan felt like he needed to add to defend Hila.
@@StudioSixtyAustralia nah just a good doc
dr drew isn’t even a doctor
IMAGINE if he said that to Trish tho. i couldnt believe how Drew was speaking to Ethan in the beginning. i thought he would be impartial
why is ethan's mental health not considered? its like dr drew is saying he doesnt get to have feelings
Dr. Drew makes it out like it’s “Ethan’s job to contain Trisha” …. No sir. Ethan’s feelings are valid and Trisha is responsible for her own emotions and lashing out.
Thank you!!!!
@@rachael_thrasher this is exactly what I think too! Dr Drew realizes how severely fucked up Trisha is and sees that Ethan is incredibly well-adjusted in comparison. It’s probably not great that he basically dismisses Ethan’s problems just because Trisha’s are worse, but I feel like on a podcast we shouldn’t expect like a real therapy session. I feel like Trisha SHOULD be treated as a case study that Ethan signs up to deal with (or not, which obviously he decided not to deal with it ultimately)
It’s not ethans job to completely put up with anything Trisha does, that’s when his mental health will start to decline
I agree. Just because she has special issues doesn’t just invalidate his feelings and needs . There should be a boundary, she is capable of understanding the illness, all the way to using it as an excuse. She could be dealing with it better some of the stuff is just out of hand and the fact she gets to come back and not take this serious, she’s laughing throughout the whole video in parts , she should realize how she acts is really a problem and needs to take this more seriously.
Man, doing a rewatch of this series and I forgot what an absolute joke of a professional Dr. Drew is. Had to do some homework on him to see how genuinely toxic and unhelpful he is to people in this situations. Much love to Ethan
i saved the dr drew episodes for absolute last on my frenemies rewatch binge. these episodes are infuriating. he’s so uneducated on this topic and is just throwing around diagnoses and bs justifications to people who aren’t his patient, who he talks to only via a podcast.. ridiculous
@@esunshinexoI just skip the episodes w Dr. Drew now bc they put me in a bad mood and don’t rlly contribute much to the show as a whole.
The most problematic part of this whole situation is Dr. Drew
Period
Ethan: *Breathes*
Dr Drew: "You're in the wrong."
trisha : calls ethan’s wife a c*nt
dr drew: ethan you’re wrong
Ethan: Escalates every situation with Trisha and pokes the bear till it attacks
His fans: HE’S A SAINT LEAVE HIM ALOVE
@@earfwerm stop simping for trisha in the comments lmao
Ethan is too controlling on the podcast IMO.
So he needs an authority figure like Dr. Drew who likes the sound of his own voice to counter him.
@@earfwerm you’re on several posts commenting the same thing. If you don’t like Ethan just say so.
Wait so trisha can literally drive a wedge between family members and ethan is in the wrong for not just ignoring it?? this is stupid af
ong bro
for real it’s literally so unfair how dr drew tries to “help” the situation or whatever but immediately sides with trisha and basically says that she gets a pass for doing things that cause problems just because it’s “just what she does” like
the fact that even when ethan is apologizing he's STILL being put down and belittled by dr dickhead. "im sorry" "*scoffs* i DoNt ThInK yOu MeAn ThAt"
Yeah, no. Dr.Drew is literally gaslighting Ethan. He’s telling Ethan Trisha doesn’t even have to try to change and Ethan just has to deal with it. “She’s just doing what she does, you just have to ignore it!” Are you kidding me? I’ve actually heard that line from abusers.
The fact that Ethan is the kind of person who is not a "bye forever" person is so healthy for Trish to learn good relationship management
i want more of these comments and less of the ones saying it’s not ethan’s job to manage her or not push her over the edge. he’s choosing to stick around and be a better friend to her
Yes I think trish needs that. Someone who is calling her out on her shit but does it Bc he cares not Bc he wants to hurt her
Not to mention he'll say anything he needs to say to her face and always listen to what she says in return instead of denying her feelings and shutting her down. I think these are the first people she's had in her life in awhile she can't sway with gifts and spotlight and it's going to be a long road to accept these people like her for herself and aren't using her. These are not going to be her most comfortable friendships, but I think they will be her realest and I hope she keeps them all in her life.
I love this comment 💕☺️
He kinda has to for the sake of the family ..If Moses broke up with her the next taiame Trisha through one of her crazy fits Ethan would be done.
Alt title: "Dr". Drew gaslights ethan for an hour and a half
*Dr Drew enabling Trisha to get that free OnlyFans content
* "Dr." Drew takes Trisha side out of pity and doesn't listen to ethan
@@lannisterfilth 😂
I agree my therapy for bpd was all about learning to hold myself accountable and learning to cope so it doesnt become the other persons responsibility to manage my emotions and it really bothered me how he kept telling ethan it was his fault for reacting to her. I know he isnt actually their dr or therapist but it seems like he just didnt want to upset Trisha by being honest or holding her accountable. And honestly knowing they had a whole video to get through i cant really blame him given the delicate the situation
as someone with bpd, this genuinely made me cry. I cannot believe that this man who claims to be a "doctor" validated her actions and words like this. I would NEVER ask someone I love or care about or even interacts with me to understand the thought process behind the shitty things I can say. It is never on them and they have their own things going on. No matter what mental health condition you have, your actions are always your responsibility. Nothing she said in the last episode was even remotely okay and I can't believe anyone can try to back her up on it and not validate the emotions of someone, like ethan, who "has to accept" the shitty things she does because of her mental health. He is his own person and has his own life and mental health issues and does not deserve this.
this is EXACTLY how i feel and this is coming from someone who also has bpd and bipolar disorder- just because you have mental health disorders does NOT mean you should be entitled to get a free pass card to say whatever and do whatever with no accountability. regardless if you feel like you are in control or not, they are still your actions. you still have to own up to them. and dr. drew is literally saying that ethan should just let trish have these free passes to just be a horrible nasty person and ethan just has to suck it up and take accountability for HER! like what???
👍💛
It’s literally not ethans job to BABY SIT Trisha for her mental health outburst, that is her responsibility. They needed to set boundaries with each other and then the show wouldn’t have ended.
It's not Ethan's job to keep trisha from disassociating. Dr. Drew is honestly putting too much responsibility onto Ethan and is basically telling him to let trisha do and say whatever she wants
Dr Drew sounds like Trisha's high school bestie trying to back her up in an argument.
!!!!!
Ethan: I’d like to admit I should’ve told Trisha beforehand not to talk about Hila
Dr. Drew: I think u don’t mean that
I hate that he doesn’t seem to understand Ethan’s feelings at all, he’s so favoring Trisha and I was hoping Ethan would’ve called him out like i would’ve
the "alright go ahead" from dr drew at 8:45 made me wanna break everything on my table
I have literally never commented on CZcams before, but this pissed me off so much. Dr. Drew is not a licensed counselor or therapist. He is a drug and addiction specialist. He works in medicine for people detoxing, not psychology or therapy. His degrees are in biology and medicine. He has no qualification for acting like he is an authority on mental illness, relationships, or anything having to do with psychology that is not drug or addiction related. To make matters worse, he is a creep. I had to stop reading his book because he kept complaining about how he couldn't stop being sexually attracted to one of his rehab patients. Gross. I hope they see someone qualified next time so they can BOTH feel valid in their emotions. I also hope Dr. Drew stops pretending to be a psychologist.
@Lynn V. bruhh thats weird as F. But i do have to say, last episode and the things he was saying on Trishas behavior were very correct, as I have been going through the same illness (is that what I should call it in english?) and have also been seeking therapy a lot. I have to admit my therapist is a GREAT and VERT experienced licensed therapist and He has helped me in extreme amount. So idk. Drew might not be licensed, but he do know lots of accurate stuff... (?)
I agree. So many of his speaking points in both episodes have been completely wrong. + he kept shutting Ethan down when he had valid complaints abt Trisha's behavior. Maybe he's siding with Trish so much because he's biased & attracted to her like his former patient. he's literally victim blaming Ethan for daring to react to Trisha provoking and insulting him.
God, I love you for commenting on that. Just 9 minutes in he is already cutting Ethan off in his recap of what went down, and saying what he added wasn't important. I'm not a therapist but my dad is a psychiatrist, my mom a psychologyst and I've been to therapy a total of around 8 years with psychoanalysts. As I said before, even 9 minutes in he's already showing a weighted opinion towards Trisha and not giving Ethan the chance to open up about his feelings and perception of the situtation. It makes me so mad that they regard any of his actions as something a mental health professional would do
@@largeautomobile Thats exactly everything I was thinking haha
@@annie.phoenix Agreed! I have been in therapy since I was young, my dad is a psychologist, and I am getting my masters in clinical mental health counseling. So I'm not an expert, but counseling practice is important to me. Forget therapy, even on a human level he is doing a disservice to Ethan because he is showing him no compassion.
Is no one gonna talk about the fact that Ethan said “Trisha, there is nothing you could say or do that would make me abandon you.” 🥺🥺🥺 That is the most precious, selfless thing ever. Trisha has found her forever people, and all they needed was the patience of a saint 😂😂😂
I literally almost got teary eyed! And lmao 😂
Yuck
Kinda sad actually. How can he sit there and listen to her say horrible things about his WIFE and still want Trisha in his life.
You're so right that's beyond sweet 🥺😭
She definitely doesn't deserve that level of kindness and respect.
someone please explain to my why it's ethans responsibility to cater to her mental health opposed to trisha taking responsibility for her actions.
It’s not. It was more of a balancing act that if Ethan wanted to do a podcast with such a volatile person who wouldn’t get put on medicine (and honestly not getting efficient help thru therapy), he would have to use kid gloves and accept working with an untreated, mentally ill person. I have a degree in psychology but I’m not a psychologist or specialist BUT she very clearly has mental illness and some form of personality disorder, most likely borderline.
Trish loves “Dr.Drew” so much because he agrees with her & makes her feel like her actions are okay, when obviously it’s NOT 🙃
I agree with Trisha on this one, I really thinks Dr.Drew wants to fuck Trisha
She clearly learned what to say the last time he was on to get him to do what she wants. Her whole “but we jab at each other, that’s what we do 😢” bs. There’s a difference between Ethan jabbing at her for her strange behaviors and her calling Eilah a bitch……………….
Dr Drew is 100% subscribed to Trisha's onlyfans
That means he must be into the sweet home Alabama kinks 🤢
@@Princessbubblegum567 She’s not...... so no LMAO
He is a simp for her
Tia Patterson dang his standard is so low it’s sad lol
Gabriela Santiago ah you must’ve forgotten about her “playful” adult content she made with her mom and sister 🤡
‘I’m never going to abandon you’ ,
is probably the nicest thing he could have ever said to her. I think this friendship/ family is actually good for them both. They’re learning a lot about themselves through it all and I hope they stay friends 🤗
This is the first positive comment I’ve seen 💗
@@schnooleheletteletto Hey now. Dont speak for all people with bpd or mental problems thats really insensitive and condescending. If someone is willing to put in the effort and prove that they are not their mental illness then they are capable of maintaining any type of relationship. These types of comments can be hurtful to those affected by mental problems.
@@schnooleheletteletto I feel like everyone with a mental illness has the ability to learn ways of coping and maintain relationships. And it’s important to encourage them too and not just assume they’ll mess up. Everyone deserves a chance.
Time stamp?
@@h.8691 I agree , it’s not fair to label everyone the same way or put anyone in a box. If someone had a physical injury they wouldn’t be spoken about that way
1:29:08 made me cry, as someone with suspected Borderline disorder it would mean the entire world to me if someone were to say this to me. living this way is so painful. The way Ethan said this made me feel so loved (almost)… Trisha was so lucky to have came across someone so understanding like this
The thing that people don’t understand is that the person to blame is the “saint” Moses. He’s obviously telling hila & Moses different things from Trisha. Hes the one splitting everything
I think we should blame dr drew for what happened to Frenemies. He’s straight telling Trisha she doesn’t have to control her disorder and that it’s Ethan job to just ignore bad parts
He literally told Trisha she needs to work on this side of her. He never said she doesn't have to control her disorder... He also knows that she's in therapy for this specific reason. They spent time on this the last time Dr. Drew was on.
@Lynn V. Lol I'm not sure why the sarcasm. Everything I said is true so..
@Lynn V. At around 19:00 I believe.
For a full understanding you should also watch the previous episode that Dr. Drew was on. He mainly focused on Trisha and the things she needs to do to avoid this. That's where they also talked about the psychotherapy that she's doing specifically to help her try to control the dissociative states she gets into.
@Lynn V. I used to shit on Trisha too. I never understood why she was being so so nasty and emotionless until that episode. Now everytime she gets into one of those states, it's so obvious. She literally shuts down and becomes a different person and it's hard to watch.
dr drew honestly did not hit, he literally was like trisha has trauma so ethan suck it up… bro what?
“One of your things is unregulated aggression” “and Ethan somehow can’t handle it when it happens” WTF anyone who watched the clip can see that he was handling it better than most of us would have.
right?? first of all, it's not ethan's responsability to walk on eggshells with a grown woman who refuses to seek treatment for something she's fully aware of having. second, ethan couldn't have been more patient, if trisha spoke like that to me I would've throat punch her, fire her and never speak to her again.
AGREED! Im wondering why Dr. Drew hasnt watched the episode
@@luhe8 Trisha is seeking treatment though? Imagine thinking you’re doing something saying you would throat punch a mentally ill person during a dissociative episode. Cringe.
@@luhe8 you must never have been in psychology..Trisha is seeking help. What she did was wrong, obviously. She is responsible for her. He knows her diagnosis and does not have to be friends with her, he knows what he is getting into. He was wrong for not telling her beforehand. He also eggs her on for entertainment, which is fine until she gets to that point, then he needs to call it and he did eventually, but not before escalating it.
@@luhe8 exactly the fact that HE apologized to her and that he still wants her back shows how patient he is. She even mentions how often she’s been cut off Ethan understands her and doesn’t take it to personally and that’s definitely not easy so idk why they’re acting like he’s not doing enough.
Picking a side is the one thing you must never do as a therapist
If we are gonna add trigger warnings I want one for Dr. Drew
I feel like Dr Drew should have watched the episode before coming here
agreed, he should have done his homework first
Yep it was so hard to explain what happened in the parenting part
@@Liz-nb9rq I feel so bad for Ethan because out of everything that’s the one thing that personally hurt him you could see it in his face.
Next time I hope they don’t have a massive fight before he comes.
Later in episode he told Trisha danger of mixing two meds he felt she took too close together. It’s his expertise on addictive medicine.
He not a therapist the episode makes him look bad
I agree!! I think if he had watched it, he wouldn't be so quick to defend Trisha!
ethan is allowed to get annoyed, especially when she’s coming for his family. the expectation that he always has to stay calm and deal with her insanity is impossible to uphold
Who cares. I’m still caught up in her making a million dollars a month?!?!
Yea. Drew isn't listening to him at all.
He stayed WAY more calm than others..including myself. She threw some really low blows..anything bout family and parenting are. Especially calling his spouse every name in the book. I can see how he may have prolonged it but otherwise he took it well.
this dr is a fraud, he has done zero research on trisha and he has not even watched the episode to see how things played out, trisha has used the excuse of mental illness literally every single thing you can think of and always falls back on it every time she crosses a line, why does she keep getting a free pass when she shows the same repeated bad behavior with no growth or change
exactly
I've never wanted to punch a person more than dr drew
Trisha is a completely different person when Dr. Drew is on here.
What kind of licenced Doctor/Therapist says "Just relax" to their patient? Ethan could not be any more calm, patient and reasonable. Dr drew is a joke.
I 100% agree
Ethan is one of the most chill ppl I’ve seen. Can’t believe the “doctor” said that. I wouldn’t have made it past that point if I were Ethan.
according to one comment down here, he's just a "specialist" you know like hyram
@@namehere5231 even then he is incompetent as a specialist xD
@@calivibes_84 He's not chill. He's lethargic.
It so painful to watch this because of how much “Dr” Drew invalidates Ethans feelings. I was 10 minutes in and I wanted to shut it off
I'm there right now - i am taking a break to read the comments for a bit because he is frustrating me so much but I don't want to miss an episode
Me too I really dislike Dr. Drew
Same. I’m about to turn it off about a half hour in. As a neuroscience major, without even having a degree yet, I can see so many things he is doing wrong in this situation. They should’ve had a real psychologist do this instead
@@kierasaurusfrost Dr Drew is good at one thing: addiction problems. Everythning else he pretends as if his opinion is worth any more than the average Joe and yet, as we all saw during Covid beginnings, he knows jackshit about most things.
Yikes he isn’t invalidating his feelings at alll...maybe Ethan isn’t as right as you think he is
OMG I can not believe how disgusted I am with dr drew here.... this is gross, poor ethan. Your feelings matter. You are not responsible for someone else shit behavior.
Amen! I feel like Dr Drew was so rude and dismissive of him 🤦🏾♀️
That "doctor" is absolutely terrible. He would never listen to Ethan's side of things. He's enabling Trisha's behavior and acting as if it's normal or something you should let her do. Mental health issues aren't an excuse to disrespect and bully people. You work on your own issues, causing family issues is never excusable. It's disgusting how they are 100% on Trisha's side and completely dismissing everything anyone else says
Dr Drew saying "that's actually not important" when Ethan was trying to express his point & then Trisha laughing at that comment, made me sus of Drew. Clearly feeding Trish's ego. Probably bc he wants her on his show to exploit her. Putting all the responsibility of balancing emotion on Ethan is outrageous. Trish needs to be responsible for what comes out of her mouth.
when he said that my mouth literally dropped!!! i was so mad at dr. drew
Both times he came on the podcast he sided with Trisha almost exclusively. Kinda hard to listen to drew continuously disrespect Ethan and act like a professional at the same time
RIGHT?!!!! i have to stop watching this bc he’s siding so hard with Trisha and being so rude to ethan
When “dr drew” said “yea yea” in response to Ethan’s “you gotta watch the clip” that’s so unprofessional! Why tf didn’t he do his research? She’s so good at playing the victim to people who don’t know the full situation my god
That last sentence thou. 💯👌 Absolutely.
Ethan didn’t wear Teddyfresh. This man’s heart grows larger every episode. Proud of you Ethan, good job.
this made my heart warm. thanks for pointing it out :)
What’s this in reference to?
@@chowtime91 the time stamp is 1:41:30 but last week i think trisha said its too much that he wears teddy fresh every week so he remembered this week not to
@@chowtime91 the episode before Trisha asks Ethan to not wear Teddy Fresh in the next episode. However, it wasn't a huge part of the episode and he was thoughtful enough to remember and not do it.
such a kind guy
It's so irritating that Dr. Drew tells Ethan, "I don't need anymore" at 8:37 and Ethan tells him "Its important" but Dr. Drew says "thats actually not important. relax, Relax, RELAX" ummm you call yourself a doctor but yet dismiss Ethan when he's trying to tell you something that HE thinks is important? He was so biased and let Trisha get away with treating Ethan however she wanted. Why wouldn't Ethan defend his wife...why would Ethan just condone Trisha's comments towards his family? Makes me sick.
Watching frenemies back just makes me realise that “dr” Drew is shit. I don’t know how Ethan keeps so calm. My anger issues could never.
So........are we just gonna ignore the fact that Ethan also has depression and struggles with his mental health too or?
Its obvious that the "dr" doesn't worry about Ethans mental health, and it's very frustrating
THIS. I was so frustrated at how one-sided this whole thing was.
This is making me want to write to Dr Drew personally,his approach was very disappointing.
Exactly my thoughts
yeah but that's not the issue here? they're trying to mitigate trisha's emotional episodes. ethan has more emotional control which is why dr drew puts more of an onus on him. it's not inherently fair but part of being in a relationship with someone with personality disorder that ethan is a consenting (and benefitting) member of. if ethan needs support from trisha for mental health or to take a break for mental health then that absolutely should be a part of the discussion but he has never expressed that in any conversation or the many videos discussing this fight.
Trisha: *Stabs Ethan in the throat*
Dr. Drew: Well now Ethan, this is why it’s your fault-
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The logic kind of makes sense though, like if a dog bites a person...you don’t blame the dog but instead you blame the owner of the dog.
@@jaleelshivers226 The problem here is, they aren’t dogs who go by instinct.
@@meera2334 they are humans who go by instinct. The way Trisha acts is an instinct.
Meera AlShamsi The goal is to create a healthy podcast environment so that the show can last as long as possible. The realistic solution would be to find a way where Ethan can prevent Trisha’s meltdowns. Trisha isn’t going to change her behavior during one “therapy” session so you can’t expect her to correct her behavior like a “normal” person.
Why is Dr. Drew always on Trish’s side? He immediately tells Ethan his apology doesn’t sound sincere????? Jesus.
EDIT: Ten minutes in and I can’t watch anymore. Dr. Drew is a joke
Rewatching this back and Trisha has a habit of rearranging the line of events so it favours her. She 100% made a dig at Ethan’s parenting and then continued to gas light him. So frustrating when Ethan goes to correct her and is then interrupted by Dr Drew telling him “it’s not important”.
It’s not Ethan’s job to regulate Trisha’s behaviour either. He actually handles Trisha incredibly well; he has a lot more tolerance and patience than the average person. Trisha’s reactions are on her and her only.
*meanwhile, Theodore’s Nanny: 👁👄👁*
Lmao
Hahahahahhaha that's funny
no really as a nanny it kinda breaks my heart hahah, i’m definitely not a random stranger over the years i have gotten so close to the family i nanny for i love them all so much! i think most nanny’s get very close
This podcast has nine lives lmao
They're running out fast though
LMAOOOO
THIS COMMENT
aint mad at it tho
THIS IS ✨EVERYTHING✨
Looking back now, I genuinely think Trisha did pay off Dr.Drew in order to make herself not look as bad, because this is just absolutely insane. There’s no way this is real. I know he’s a “fake doctor” but I feel like even just some regular person wouldn’t be as demeaning as he was towards Ethan. It’s infuriating to watch
I thought the same thing.
he didnt even watch the clip and is literally taking everything trisha says for 100% truth
“I don’t need to hear more from you”
-This is important to me
“Ughh 🙄 alright go ahead”
And the exact moment Ethan was finished speaking, he said “Yeah that’s actually not important” he didn’t even consider what he was saying. He made the decision to respond in that way while Ethan was speaking. I desperately need to see a panel of dr Drew’s colleagues review his methods
THAT PISSSSSEDDD me offf when he did that
YESSSSSS
Yesss
Yesss
YESSSSSSSS
as somebody with BPD, i appreciate the empathy dr drew has towards trisha because that's VERY rare to find and almost everyone looks down on those of us with personality disorders & judges us very very harshly,,, HOWEVER,, i HATE the way he's treating ethan in this video!!! Ethan's issues with trisha are VERY VALID and she should be called out for what she's doing to ethan's family!!! having BPD doesn't give you a free pass to hurt others and take 0 responsibility for it
thank you.
I couldn’t have said it better.
YES!!! I don’t think I can even watch this episode because dr drew is being so rude to Ethan and devaluing his feelings and how Trisha is. Us people with bpd NEED to be called out.
PERIOD
YES I 100% agree! I think he handled the first episode that he came on very well, but I definitely did not like how he treated Ethan in this one.
When Trisha wanted to score 35 and scored 30, missing out on another 5%
I lost it when Trisha said she can't say HER name and Dan just lost it at the background. Something about him laughing in the background makes it so much better. She who must not be named, lol
Ethan: I'm truly sorry
Dr. Drew: no you're not
Ye because it doesnt seems like he is sorry lmao, he has never shown that he is sorry
@@gur9715 and Trisha has? Ethan is so patient with her during her "meltdowns" and never takes any of her awful comments personally and admitted that he should've spoken to her directly. How would Dr. Drew even know what Ethan's sorry looks like?
LMAOOO
@@GirlWithEyeballs bro? He was litteraly arguing back with trisha when he knows she had a meltdown, he def was not patient with her, he was arguing back and took the comments personal, because he hates critism because he thinks evrything he do is perfect
@@xelenereal because trisha has a disorder, ethan doesnt, ethan is just a selfish cock sometimes
Also I feel like Dr drew doesn't look at the full scope of things and expects Ethan to be inhumanly understanding just because he has better mental health i saw this last time it still hurts to be put down when your the healthier person.
I agree. It felt like Dr. Drew sided with Trisha from the get go. He didn't even empathize with Ethan. It's not Ethan's job to manage Trisha's disorder and completely turn himself off as a human. Ethan doesn't have the training in BPD the way Dr. Drew does. Completely unfair and invalidating.
Especially since she doesnt even get treatment. Shes a goddamn grown woman. Get treatment!
D.rDrew is an idiot. He has been for years that's why his show got canceled and he has to come on h3 lol.
@@3minus3_ you’re right Ethan doesn’t have to manage her disorder, but it’s his choice to keep doing this podcast with her, so if he doesn’t wanna learn how to respond to her episodes then he can’t act hurt if something triggers an episode and causes her to lose control.
I have a family member with BPD, and I’m not trained in BPD either, but if I wanted to keep living with them and not walk on eggshells, I had to learn the right way to respond to them when they’re in an episode. If Ethan doesn’t wanna learn, he should stop doing the podcast, or stop acting surprised when she lashes out because she can’t help it (like how a schizophrenic can’t help their hallucinations).
@@salmae.1354 I agree with you!
Dr Drew got his PhD in gaslighting 💅✨
trisha calling hila "she who must not be named" while someone in the background is dying laughing 😭😭😭
Ethan: *in the middle of genuine apology*
Dr drew: "CaN I StOp YoU RiGhT ThErE, It dOeSnT fEeL lIKe YoU MeAn It"
this PISSED me off
FRRR
I was like.... Trisha???????? Lmao what tf kind of doctor
it just sort of seems that Dr. Drew favors Trisha... am i right on that?
@@coolguymatt5792 yeah
Dr Drew is insanely mean and accusatory towards ethan. Of course ethan doesn't know how to deal with trishas issues, hes never experienced them. He's so rude to him for no reason. And trisha isnt a baby, she can hold her own and take responsibility
Not even 10 minutes into the episode Drew’s already cutting Ethan off 💀 so it starts LMAO
Dr. Drew read a couple books in the psychology section of barnes and nobles and started calling himself a therapist lmao
I think he just read the covers
I feel like a divorced child while watching my two parents trying to get along.
Soooo...you feel like yourself
🤣😭🤣
OH MY GOD
Denisia Wardlow my parents are divorced, I did that LOL it was so bad we even asked them to divorce & this is still way worse
@@curmidgeon8 no. I imagine this feeling.
Trisha wearing teddy fresh for Ethan and him not wearing teddy fresh for her is such a sweet move
@cloudzinmyize bruh.
Drew: "Ethan your job is to understand"
Excuse me?💀 Ethan is a human being too and is allowed to react irrationally as much as Trisha does, the difference is Trisha is justified for it. What the actual fuck. And I really hate how "Dr" Drew says "relax Ethan, relaaaaax". So frustrating
the problem was Moses. it wasn’t Ethan’s or Hila’s responsibility to let Trisha know she needed to maybe stop talking about family stuff. Hila talked to her brother, so her brother should’ve relayed that to his girlfriend.
- trisha murders ethan -
Dr. Drew: You have to understand that this is a result of Trisha's trauma, and she did not mean to do it. It is simply the result of years of untreated trauma.
😂😂
Tbh you are coming off as very "mental disorders arent real" and thats gross.
@@arifilipponi4866 that wasn’t my intent though. Just trying to joke around about the lengths dr drew goes to when trying to explain away trisha’s behavior and discredit everything Ethan says. Obviously mental illness and trauma are real
and it causes her to trash talk Hila and ask inappropriate shaming questions like does Hila get rammed like Trisha does. all part of the illness
@@arifilipponi4866 what is gross is trying to invade the entire family like some needy demanding brat using leverage and making threats and revealling private things about Moses and a smelly vagina.
So Moses isn’t on this episode? The one who is creating all the problems should be on to explain himself...
Right?! Something is seriously off about that dude. Shady. I don’t trust him at all.
Yes omg
@@liplock000 He just wants Trisha money....I don't blame him it's easy target. Hes trying to play her and getting caught in his own lies.
Yes! He needs accountability. I definitely think he plays both sides. Trisha wouldn't know personal stuff if he wasn't sharing with her from his perspective
I get the impression he dates people his family disapprove of... Rebellious child.
i love that the most replayed part of this episode is when dr drew leaves
It's very disheartening to see Ethan continuously disregard his own experiences and feelings, and a literal doctor encouraging him too, so Trish feels better. I know there's a lot here but, damn.
The people in the comments are being better therapist than this “dr” drew 😭 super unprofessional. Ethan handles trisha’s outbreaks amazingly. most people wouldn’t be to be as calm as him. applause to you ethan 👏🏽👏🏽
He’s literally the one that triggers them and doesn’t ever take accountability for the things he needs to take accountability for. He will do the same exact thing Trisha does but will blame her.
Ethan maintains a cool attitude but manages to trigger her and egg her on. Calm doesn’t mean he handles her “outbreaks” amazingly.
In the last episode Ethan was literally saying like "we should drop this" and then would turn around and ask things like "what even started this in the first place?"
just because he didnt explode back at her does not mean he handled it "amazingly"
Tbh none of them deserve to deal with Trisha's adult baby bullshit. I get she has issues but the fact that she claims to not know she is being manipulative is a flat out lie lmao. She knows what she's doing she just doesn't care lol.
Also I'd like to make a comment to the others commenting here... Trisha is nuts and it's hard to handle the shit she dishes out in a continual basis. Hila even expressed how exhausted she was dealing with it all. They are human! You guys seem to give so many passes for Trisha's toxic behavior but then when Ethan gets pissed and wants to put her in her place after she verbally abused him and his wife is fucking nuts. Y'all are acting like they're Trisha's caregivers lol. Trisha is a fully grown woman and is acting like an absolute child. It's pathetic. And no it's not the BPD she knows what she's doing she just doesn't care to change. She constantly makes excuses claiming that she doesn't know she's doing it and she blacks out. Absolute bullshit. She knows what she's doing she just loses all empathy in her moments of narc rage.
Ethan: “can I say something”
Dr. Drew: no you’re wrong anyways doesn’t matter
Because Ethan acts like he’s completely innocent
@@Jordankj99 Even so it doesn't make sense to dismiss a valid point. Dr Drew has always been a snake oil salesman
Ethan gives one sided arguments just to fluff his own ego. He refuses to take responsibility for his actions.
@@AndreGriffiths1 he is saying it isnt vaild because trish is doing what trish does.... so it doesnt matter what the logic is behind it because it this point logic doesnt matter
@amanda atha thats common with addicts no matter who the doctor is. I'm not saying he is a good or bad doctor because i dont have a doctorate so i have no idea but I do know the reason you gave for him being a bad doctor isnt exactly proof of him being a bad doctor. The success rate of adicts is very low and the failure and death rates are very high. Thats with treatment. Obviously without treatment those rates are even worse.
ethan: *breathes*
dr drew: YOUR FAULT. TRISHA IS STRUGGLING.
ethan had so much patience for dr drew, it’s insane. like even in the last episode they had him, ethan was so calm even though he clearly was shutting him down on everything, and in this episode dr drew was just straight up rude. i blame dr drew for frenemies ending honest to god
“That is not important” This whole thing is literally about Moses not being real to either Trisha or the family!!
No. He's keeping stuff from Trisha because it's his right to do so but also because he knows she's not the problem so why burden her. His private relationship with Trisha is not part of the working relationship with Ethan.. It's up to Ethan and Trisha to make their working relationship, work. Ethan should've made that working boundary very clear much sooner. He has more information and control over the working situation so he has to take responsibility for that.
Yes, I agree Moses is a big part of the issue and that should also be addressed...
@COVID i agree. People are reading into this so much, which I personally think reflects on the audience more than the performance. Really, we should be concerned about the level of manipulation that advertisers and creators have reached. This all seems like a lucrative exploit of character, and I think we all know they are aware of it. People with cluster B personality traits either get help or they do not.
@COVID So tell me how all of this is Moses' fault then. I'll wait.
@COVID The root of the problem is what's going on between Moses, Hila and their family. It needs to stay separate from the podcast in every way. You assume Trisha is what's causing the problems but that's not the case. There could be lots about Moses and his life that their family don't approve of rather than his latest gf. Ethan has even stated it's not Trisha. If Moses is not taking calls or answering texts from family that's his choice. If they're arguing it's not surprising to me. Moses still considers himself Israeli but not Jewish. That could easily be the reason they're arguing. Or his choice of career. Or him coming to live in the US. So many possibilities. But, Hila saying she thinks it's Trisha somehow preventing him from communicating is an extremely provocative thing to say to anyone, let alone Trisha! Trisha's paranoia is what's escalated things no doubt. BUT. Ethan has assumed Trisha's boundaries would be the same as his, he should've known they wouldn't be. Ethan knew far more about Trisha than Moses did, when they started the dating game way back. Boundaries should've been set from the beginning of the podcast if not earlier given the romantic status going on and, all of this wouldn't have happened. If Moses tells Trisha exactly what's going on between him, Hila and their family it would only be a matter of time before she blurted. Which is exactly what none of them want, Trisha included. Part of being involved with Trisha is managing her well documented mental health problems. She accepts that. She overshares, they knew that about her. If Ethan wants to do business with her he has to accept that about her. It's not about fault, it's about reality and practical solutions. Until and if Trisha works through her problems and can control or manage them better herself, it's likely she will blow up again. She needs time and support and guidance. It's obvious. Which is why Ethan said he would never abandon her. He's realising the power he has to help her or hurt her. Trisha has to learn to trust him with that power. You don't like it but the fact is Trisha is the victim. She needs people she can trust around her in order to learn normalcy. To set her straight when she needs it and be supportive when she needs it. But it has to be done with compassion. No anger or aggression. Trisha doesn't even know what all of her triggers are yet because there's so much of her past she doesn't remember. She doesn't understand why she does the things she does yet. She's in the very early stages of her mental health recovery journey. During the course of this podcast Ethan has been shocked to hear some of her life experiences. How matter of fact she is about them. She is so emotionally dissociated there's no wonder she behaves the way she does. She's hypervigilant. Constantly on guard. Anyway, that's the situation as I see it. I have personal experience of being around someone with BPD/DID. She's not a villain and neither is anyone else. There just HAS to be boundaries for everyone's sake.
Dr. Drew barely interrupts Trish but as soon as Ethan begins speaking he gets cut off immediately and can’t get a word in edgewise. Dr. Drew basically told Ethan to shut up without literally saying it.
Ethan asked him to come on the show and deal with Trish
@@cady__ he should (as a doctor) help Trisha and Ethan both. How was he supposed to help Trish without helping (and listening to) Ethan as well , since they are supposed to coexist for the show. There is always two sides to a story. Trisha and Ethan should both have been listened to as far as what every “therapy” they were doing to help Trish.He shouldn’t have told Ethan that what he was saying was not important or not needed what he should’ve done was told Ethan how he could de-escalate a situation with Trish to keep her calm and how to help himself from saying things that might trigger her.
@@dakotajones2799he said at the beginning he wasn’t acting as their doctor - Ethan didn’t ask him to do that either - he asked him on as to have an informational episode to help him, and dr drew did that. He explained BPD, and said that those things aren’t important to someone with BPD because A, B, C. He didn’t say ethan’s feelings weren’t important, he never once said anything like that - he said in trish’s mind this is how things go and she literally doesn’t care if you make a logical list, she goes into wrath and
Goes off. He also didn’t excuse what Trish said either, what she did was wrong and everyone agreed on that at different point of the show. He just tried to explain her mind. The fact that you’re obsessing over the words “that’s not important” and taking them so literal without listening to the whole conversation is your thing - but that’s not what Dr Drew meant, and they all discussed that in other points of the episode too.
later on when they did the test Dr Drew mentions that he was worried about Ethan specifically with having boundaries because he doesn’t want him to get hurt. He obviously expressed multiple times in the episode he cares that they both are okay.
Ethan said he knows what he meant and he also knows what he pre-planned with everyone, and the arc he wanted for the episode. Stop making one person a scapegoat in a situation when Ethan also literally had her do a personality test to prove all this shit about her and say see she’s a narcissist, and know he’s gonna get a better score. I like Ethan, and he’s funny but let’s not pretend he’s a saint when he’s the one who planned the whole episode to go this way.
@@cady__ I won’t argue with you any more your obviously not willing to notice the fact that Dr Drew isn’t very professional at all (and in fact he did say and I quote “That’s actually not important” you must’ve just missed what he said after that because your too busy brown-nosing him.)He literally said nothing and went on talking to Trisha.
@@cady__ To continue I never once said Ethan was a saint or a scapegoat. I never even insinuated that so before you put words into my mouth maybe you should go back an re-read thx luv.☺️
How is Ethan the aggressive one? And he's not her babysitter or her partner. He's her coworker. He doesn't need to control her behavior. Also, Trisha never apologizes for her actions!
Dr. Drew is a quack fr. I’d like to see HIS narcissism score lmao
I feel bad for Ethan. His feelings are just as important as Trish’s.
Ethan is just more well adjusted. It’s best to focus on the one that’s unstable I think even Ethan would understand, but i get where you’re coming from.
@oneshotrobb You're talking about it's better to focus on the one that's more unstable they're both millionaires the real and stable person is the crazy homeless person in the street but you want to focus on Tricia Wright
The major difference is that Ethan has the capacity to actively interpret that he shouldn't be taking what she is saying when she goes into that mode seriously. Not excusing it or condoning it clearly, but swiftly acknowledging the moment and moving on is a tool Ethan could use very effectively to quell these disputes and focus on the show and the evolution of their relationship and their individual journey. Their feelings both are valid and matter equally, but Ethan's potential ability to control himself in those moments and navigate them for the better of them both is something Trish cannot reciprocate (and thats OK!).
Exactly
@@TheO5Council me personally no I focus on me because I’ve got a lot of room to grow, but he were talking about this show I thought.
Ethan actually didn’t wear Teddy Fresh this ep like Trisha asked him to.
aww, I hadn't noticed.
damn, I don't know how to feel about that.
Ethan should wear whatever he wants to wear. It’s his show! He’s the boss!
@Frost she did
If my wife built a clothing company I'd rock the hell out of it. I didnt understand that comment
She would say he always wearing his own Merch , in a way she making fun of him
It's hilarious that Dr. Drew is a general internal medicine doc and dr. Yung is a doctor of business... And they are parading around Hollywood as mental health experts. 😂
well business actually uses psychology a lot i think and he seemed to actually stay on what he knows unlike the one with a dogs name
To be fair to trisha, I get her spiraling considering in all intensive purposes, her boss embarrassed her on a podcast that MILLIONS of people viewed, over something she didnt realize was a boundary. Communication is key to a healthy relationship of any kind.
Ethan: “Hila is being lied to by her brother”
Dr drew “that doesn’t matter”
Oh ok
Facts 😂😂😂😂
It really doesn’t tho, what does that have to do with Trisha? How would she know? This is a Moses issue not Trisha
Being lied to by her brother then her husband sits joking with the female who totally disrespected her.
@@user-pw5gd6is8t it’s more that he, as a trained medical professional, doesn’t take the time or courtesy to validate that having that happen is a stressful situation and one that may bring about heightened tensions. Not everything is about Trisha which is what dr drew has failed to remember and what I was trying to highlight in my comment.
@@user-pw5gd6is8t moses is lying to trisha too
the common denominator is: *moses*
Yesss literally
That's definitely what it seems like.
Obviously..
🧍🏻
Splitting the Red Sea and relationships
i literally never comment but it makes me soo furious to hear dr drew invalidate ethan and blaming him for letting trisha act the way she does. i feel so bad for ethan i can't imagine having to deal with somebody like that
Dr. Drew is wrong for this. I can't imagine telling people to just "deal" with being attacked personally by someone with mental health issues. Yes, Trish had documented personality disorders, but it's actually her job to control that. It's not the rest of the world's job to placate them and just let their behavior slide. Especially when it's negatively affecting the people around them.