East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra DEMO - Original Compositions
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This little compilation of different tracks - and the use of different styles, could give you an idea what the Library is capable of.
Not saying it can't be done even better. I know it can ;)
I composed all tracks between 2015 and early 2016. I decided not to Upload them because I wasn't satisfied with the result at that time.
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![EPIC Orchestral Soundtrack in Hans Zimmer Style [Screencast] - Original Composition - East West Gold](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BqhDkYpT6vk/mqdefault.jpg)
1:38 sounds like something from the Star Wars prequels. THAT LAYERING IS AMAZING! Teach me master
just got the library and can't wait to get on this level man, nice work
Rudy Ayoub have fun with it! :)
Do you need an License USB Stick to use it?
Play something else, bro
Never thought i would see you here
@Rudy Ayoub
035 0365 on violin plz
This is always my go-to link when people doubt that Symphonic Orchestra is still a viable sample library.
very nice! :) thx!
Of course it is still viable. Hollywood Orchestra is awesome, but there are some instruments in SO that do not have a HO counterpart. For example, SO Choirs has boy's choir and solos but Hollywood Choirs does not. Word builder is cleaner in HO, but if you're going for background vocals, and depending on how reverb is applied to them and how other instruments are layered, it's very hard to notice.
@Kuzishika Hollywood Orchestra is the newer library set that many consider to exist to REPLACE Symphonic Orchestra. I was using the choir offering for both sets to illustrate how they ay different from each other, and yet really compliment each other, so symphonic orchestra libraries are as viable as Hollywood Orchestra.
Many of you should also realize the sound you hear is richness created by counterpoint and good timing. He is spot on about using pretty much the EW rev and eq. They spent millions on rooms halls and mics. No need for anything else. The laying and doubling is a bit important because sometimes the strings can come across thin so doubling is key, totally correct. Good orchestration. I enjoyed! I may post my compositions as well after I copy write them.
MyPotter12345 yes sir! Thank you!
Pretty sure they're copyrighted the moment you write them, so long as you save proof of creation.
This is incredible! The quality of these pieces are outstanding. I could easily see these compositions being in a film score if they were recorded with a live orchestra. That being said, your use of East West practically sounds like a live orchestra already. You should seriously consider composing as a career.
The crescendo and resolve at 3:28 put me in tears and I haven't been in tears in months. Awesome talent!
chancekafka Aaw! That means a lot to me! Tranfering emotions is the purpose of music imo! Im very Glad you like my piece! Make sure to listen to my latest pieces as well!
There are so many people who don't understand orchestration, but you did a fine job on this piece!!
Finally, some demos with production skills. Great old work!
Just got bought it! Super keen to get to work with it! Very inspiring thank you!!
Well done, man. I like it so much! I just bough the Library recently and now I just realized that it's Very good!!
Amazing. This has convinced me to buy this - I remember using this a my University Studio and i was blown away!
Blankz great!!
Absolutely breathtaking! It's just incredible. This is the sound I am striving for.
Anthony Knight This guy did amazing. I am learning more and more as I research. Big tip is to get a picture of an orchestra layout which tells you where to place your instruments and how to pan them like in a hall and also ambience reverb is your friend. :)
WOW! I want to sound like you when I grow up! Outstanding!
Great work there and excelent compositions! Helped me a lot and I would really like to thank you!
Bravissimo! I also do compose orchestral music and, as i listened to your compositions, i had to log in and congratulate you. I'm sure you got a GREAT gift. Well done dude, keep it up !
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! Keep on composing :)
Very nice, a wide display of the a great library's capabilities
I have good memories with EWQL SO, thanks for sharing this
this was incredible! and it also convinced me on getting the ew composer cloud ahaha. so well made, you have a true craftsmanship on those tools!
this is amazing dude
Just beautiful 💝
Amazing, the best compositions of this library I found on youtube for sure
thank you! Make sure to listen to my other pieces as well :)
@@TobiWobi7 I already did man!
Wow, bravo pour ces compositions très riches et nuancées.
Absolument riche et nuancé, oui! Je viens de me procurer cette librairie VST. Je suis complètement époustouflé, par le son et ses compositions!
Done better? I'll let you know if I hear better. Chances are you won't be hearing from me. Absolutely beautiful!!!! Love your compositions.
John E thank You very much for your Kind words!
Only the greatest geniuses and masters could reach to something like this
Awesome Tobias. Well done
Very impressive! I have EWSO platinum but never managed this good sound... Very inspiring and instant subscribe!
Morten Malvik [] Composer He is impressive!
Don't think you're fooling anyone. I know that you're John Williams in disguise.
Haha :D I wish!
How incredible :D. From action stuff, to romantic Disney scoring, you cover so much breadth and it shows just how flexible this 'legacy' library is :D. I can hear it's not JUST EWQL, but you've still done an amazing job in showcasing so many different styles of music :D
thank you very much! :)
Very nice, Tobias!
that was a real journey right there... Really enjoyed that.
thank you! Make sure to listen to my latest pieces as well! There are more to come! :)
Great job, Tobias!!
I love your compositions, thanks heaps for sharing! I'm looking into the EastWest Composer Suite, and your beautiful compositions are giving me a great idea of what sounds are possible. Thanks!
Very nice! :) Thank you!
Fantastic music! Many Thanks!
than you! :)
very full of life - congratz man, great jobs!
thank you :)
Very nice work!
Amazing.
Simply Amazing!!!!! I just started this year. Hoping to learn from you in the near future!
thank you! :) good luck!
Waaaay more than a demo. You do so much better than pseudo creative people who only make content about gear
haha thank you :) tell the east west poeple :D haha
Wow, this is the first time I read all of the comments! Well really, congratulations on your masterful compositions. I just purchased this library today before listening to this. Actually, I got Symphonic Orchestra Gold AND Symphonic Choirs Gold on sale both for 299$ USD... simply amazing, a crazy steal!! I will listen to your other music as I'm sure it is wonderful! Cheers!
Frankaupolis wow! You got yourself a nice Deal there! Congrats! And thank you, have fun with your new library :)
@@TobiWobi7 Thanks Tobias! 8~D
This is simply amazing... Astounding work! Would love for some tutorials!
Marcus Stålhandske thank you :) what would You like to See in a Tutorial? I thought about it, but im not sure what to show You guys...
Tobias Scheel Personaly I would like to know how you put together parts. Everything flows so good. And I would also like to know how to make things sound realistic.
Tobias Scheel Tutorial please of arrangements and the use of articulations - your work is simply amazing!
Hello ! a tutorial on how to orchestrate every section would be amazing !! as in dynamic range of sections and how to orchestrate correctly !!!!
fantastic
Nice music! Thank you!
no, I thank you!
i like this type music, plz keep going
Woooowww!!!
This is great. My son is disappointed that he cannot get cinematic sound from Quantum Leap SO and thought he should get Hollywood Symphony, but this sounds great.
Hey, congratulations! I would like to compose music like you in the future!!
awesome stuff!
thank you! :)
Sehr sehr schön
Magic
Nicely done. I'm researching various sound libraries/virtual instruments for my own compositions and it's very helpful to hear "real" music (as opposed to demos specifically engineered to play to a product's strengths). Thanks.
your welcome :) and thank YOU!
Awesome
You just persuaded me into buying the EWQLSO Gold. Thanks
Haha, I'm glad you like what you hear! :) It's a pitty I'm not cooperating with EW :D So many tell me they buy it because of my music! I feel very honored :)
Feel free to listen to my other pieces as well!
Sure thing. You obviously have talent
very nice job i like it
Nice tunes and orchestrations.
Thank you!
A lot of money to be made from Sync Licensing for these types of tracks, you should really look into it! Amazing pieces you have here, simply brilliant.
Das ist großartig!
Dank dir :)
Hermoso!!!!
Great
legend !!!!
I rarely make comments on YT but now I had to, that was just astounding. Seriously, you should now focus on marketing yourself and all of those masterpieces.
Thank you very much! :) I appreciate it!
brilliant work ! who made those fantastic graphics ?
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
How did you achieve such a good mix? I am struggling to make this library sound realistic.
I think the mixing is "done by itself" as long as you pay attention to the character of an instrument! Horns are always louder than strings, flutes should never be louder than trumpets etc. pp. also to achieve a richer sound you should double certain instrument families! Flutes and 1st Strings go well together! Cello and Oboe or Oboe and Trumpet match really good as well, Bassoon and Cello is also very common :) In the end its up to you, don't hold on to rules but hear what instruments work together!
@tobias Scheel. What about when it comes to reverb, eq and manipulating midi data and things of that nature?
I don't use EQ very much... i emphasize some frequencies here and there but mostly in terms of mastering. It is usually not necessary to heavily EQ an orchestral library. I also simply use the reverb feature from EastWest! It offers a lot of different reverb settings. I consider the work with the midi data part of the composing process and not really mixing... after you worked some time with your library you will learn what you can do and what sonds good :)
Please do a tutorial!
Think you can't teach someone a 'feeling'. All you have to do is listen to alot of classical music, and from that use that experience to create your own... To make instruments sound real in East West it's vital you also understand the concept of arrangement. In this case, classical arrangement. And there are universities teaching that, also lot's to be found on the internet.
wow man, ur composition is just great. I read on the comments that u mentioned you don't have career in this field, I wonder why. I hope u get a job in what you're doing awesome.
the answer is simple, I'm not good enough! i don't have the equipment and the courage to risk it all and try :/ still, thank you very much! I'll keep making music :)
Mächtig Diggah
Hey! Your very good at composing music for the EWQLSO to play!
Would you mind if I give you a request?
I would please like the East West Symphonic Orchestra Software to play one of my own arrangements of one of Chopin’s Nocturnes?
Hi! First of all thank you! :)
I'm afraid I can't "accept" your request! I dont do covers anymore, I just compose original music. And as you can see in my uploadhistory, I only upload videos from time to time, because I have so little time for my passion :(
It would take hours to adapt your arrangement into cubase and EW and I simply don't have the time to do this just for fun :/
Sorry!
Sounds amazing! Wow! Great sounds, great composition.
Who did the artwork? That is also fantastic
I can’t believe how incredible this sounds. Awesome work.
WOW ! sounds very realistic you are very professional in this kind of thing....bro do you know if EWQL gold edition also sound realistic or not ? and thank you for this beautiful masterpiece :)
In fact, EWQLSO Gold is the only vst besides a free vst for the choir I Used in all the pieces!
Trank you, feel free to listen to my newer pieces as well :)
Tobias Scheel I want to be professional like you but it seems impossible to reach your level :(
This is terrific work. How long have you been composing? How did you get east west to sound so realistic
derek jurovich Thank You! Its not that difficult! You just Need to Know what the Instruments role is in an Orchestra and what goes and blends with another! Flutes and violins e.g. Are a very Nice match which creates a Full und warm Sound! And so on!
I really want to ask if you're going to do tutorials on how to compose with EWQL Symphonic Orchestra
fucking magic !!!!!!!!
Really enjoyed this! Did I hear a direct Star Wars quote at 1:46? Very Clever!
thank you! Im not sure if it is a direct quote but i was certainly influenced by John Williams and his style! glad you like it :) There will be more original music in the future!
incredible!!! And awesome composition!!! Was it made using the gold collection?
Yes, everything you hear is from EW Symphonic Orchestra Gold and some stock plugins from Cubase :)
Sounds amazing. :) What is your usual workflow?
Finding inspiration, Gettin in the right mood for a piece, sitting down on the piano, finding nice chords and melodies, putting everything into cubase and orchestrating (lots of creativity is happening during this phase), polishing and mixing :)
Thank you!
great work add tags like movie score movie theme so search will bring, also pltmake tutorial about using eaql to make these
AWESOME!!! I really like the way you compose music. Is there a reason you use Gold over Hollywood? I'm just curious as I have both and sometimes feel Gold just sounds better. Thanks for sharing the fantastic music with us.
Well, i think the best way would be to mix those librarys and just use both. I only own Gold which I really enjoy working with! But it is, at some points, a little hard to achieve that particular Hollywood sound because Gold is intended to be a classical orchestra library (as its called Symphonic Orchestra GOLD)! Still, if you work long enough with it, you get to know all the tricks and ways to make the instruments and mix sound more realistic (if you dare to say). I still have a lot to learn in terms of mixing and mastering though...
oh and of course thank you very much! :)
Hey there! I'm a high school student looking to get more serious about composing, ran across this vid while researching EastWest and you have convinced me to get that and Cubase and to write more! You're awesome! Would you recommend me getting and particular version of cubase? I was thinking about Cubase 9 Essentials since I'm on a budget but will that have everything I need? I don't plan on doing many live studio recordings
I am using Cubase Studio 5 so i guess 9 will be fine! :) For orchestral music only the Essentials' version will do! Glad i could help you making a decision :)
Tobias Scheel thanks man! I really love your stuff, keep it up!
This is an absolutely astounding use of EWQLSO. Honestly, the standard. Your use of the brass is especially effective, and it's almost surreal how samples recorded and programmed in the early 2000s could sound THIS realistic in 2018. What sort of hardware are you running this composition on?
thank you very much! :) i appreciate it!
I'm using an ordinary pc setup nothing special. And you are right! I really like this library for its sound :)
I'm trying to get back in to orchestration after a two or three year break, and while I've been fortunate enough to work with real musicians on occasion (living near a fine arts university has its perks!) I've never gotten a sample library to sound quite how I want. It's very motivating to hear a comp by someone who's "figured it out," as it were :) Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Momo's Travelling Meowchestra Aaw! You are very Lucky dude! I Wish i could have an Orchestra Play one of my pieces...
anyways, Im Glad You enjoy my pieces :) there will certainly be more Tracks coming!
How do you make the brass sound raspy but quiet at the same time? Do you put the expression all the way up and turn down a general volume parameter? Or is it a particular patch that's made to do this? Anyway, you're a wizzard, I can only dream of being as good as you at orchestration and orchestral programming :)
thank you very much! I really appreciate it!
I think its all about paying attention to the nature of the instruments! Strings should never be louder than the horns for example. If you keep that in mind you have more room for the brass. also I have seemed to cut of a lot of the low end there which I would not do this heavily now a days!
You composed this and was not satisfied with the result? Reeeaalllly? The music kind of sounds like a god send. I especially love the mixing. It sounds so clean. Did you use gold?
YuleGenesis well, this is basically a Compilation of unfinished pieces i abandoned and later put together for the purpose of this Video. But thank you! Yes, i Used Gold! Make sure to listen to my other Tracks as well :) cheers
it sounds sooo real i can not believe people told me i should buy Kontakt instead - need to drop that idea :) do you use the platinum or the platinum plus?
Lovely thank you! :)
I‘m using neither of those! I‘m using the gold Edition :D cheers
Are all of the instruments in this from Symphonic Orchestra? I really want to start into composing music and this seems like a really good vst for a fairly reasonable price.
Nice job by the way, these are very good.
Edit: nope, I seriously doubt that electronic guitar is in the vst pack haha. What other vsts are you using?
David Brussard Hi, thank you for the Kind words :)
You are right, the Guitar, the drumkit, some choir and the ethnic Flute are halion Instruments which are included in my cubase Version!
Tobias Scheel Nice, thanks for replying my friend :)
Amazing work. You could license your music for use in TV/Film (if you don't do it already). It could make nice passive income.
Yes, you are certainly right! I should focus on that soon :)
Hi man this is amazing. I'm starting with orchestration do you teach private lessons? would love to contact you
Just email me (tobiasjscheel@web.de)
Be Aware, im Not a teacher but i will answer all your Questions and help you were ever i can :) pls feel free and consider to Support me on patreon with an amount of your Choice :) sometimes my answers take some Time, sry in Advance!
Do you use a DAW or a notation software? I currently use Sibelius, but was looking to upgrade to a DAW, and was just wondering which one you use. I use a Windows system so if you don't, which do you think would run EWQLSO the smoothest?
Brandon Schwab I'm Using Cubase 5! Its the Same DAW Hans Zimmer Uses! It contains everything You need including a notation feature
Thats perfect. Ive been looking for a decent DAW with a notation software built in. Thanks!
Sounds awesome man. Do you hand write first or otherwise notate your music before using your DAW?
vox1868 thank you! Most of the Time I skech out the piece on Paper and Piano Befor i orchestrate:)
Tobias Scheel nice, that’s the best way in my opinion! Do you ever use the EW Hollywood orchestra series?
@@eb.1 no, I only use EW Symphonic Orchestra Gold and some stock VSTs from Cubase :)
Tobias Scheel Thanks! One more question, do you take your piano sketch directly to your DAW to orchestrate there or do you write out all your orchestration beforehand?
@@eb.1 Most of the time i have the Orchestration already in mind but often enough its a magical process and things happen I never thought of! If that makes sense :D
I had cracked version of Symphonic, then upgrated to Hollywood Gold (licensed) now i regret a bit. ;/ (Need to either buy orchiestra or buy a subscription)
can I have the midi/ stems? i'd like to try it with my kontakt library
i dont have any midis unfortunately. Those pieces are old and i switched the pc several times and they got lost in the process... also, these pieces are just pieces i abandoned and never finished so the midis or project files were not even saved as backup files for my new setups.
Very nice, keep it up.
Is it gold, gold xp, platinum? Thanks for sharing.
I certainly will!
I'm using the Gold Edition :)
Do you have any background in music theory or composing by the way?
I've been making music for over 15 years now. I had classical piano, trumpet and guitar lessons. I later studied music theory at university but I quit because it was way to boring...
Tobias Scheel, I congratulate you on this achievement in music. I myself attempted to take music theory from Berkeley. I agree that it is quite boring. I'd much rather make it than learn a set of rules to make music. I thank you for this demo,I was uncertain as to wether I should get this particular sample set.
Amazing!
May I know what DAW you're using?
Thank you! I am using cubse! :) make sure to Listen to my latest pieces as well!
@@TobiWobi7 oh the star girl one? Nice one! I also came across your 'An epic adventure' video. I LOVED that one, that song has so much personality!
Is it cubase pro or cubase elements 11? I checked online, they have like two versions...
@@Sebastian-42-69 sry for late response 😳 i am still using cubase Studio 5 😂
Mit welchem Programm wurde das gemacht? Das klingt echt gut, was ich da so höre. :)
Alles mit Cubase :)
Wow! Bind ja gerade echt am überlegen, ob ich mit dem LMMS nicht so langsam einsteige. Cubase würde momentan noch meinen Kostenrahgmen übersteigen, denke ich. Aber mal zum Einstieg LMMS denke ich wäre ganz gut. Naja, wie auch immer, das was du da aus Cubase herausbekommen hast ist echt unglaublich gut. welche Plugins hast du dafür genutzt? Würde mich umhauen, so einen Sound nur aus Cubase herauszubekommen. Echt gut. :) Falls du das nur aus Cubase herausbekommen hast, dann müsste ich mir echt überlegen, ob ich mir nicht doch Cubase zulege ^^... Ich sag einfach mal nur nochmal: Wow! Abo ist da. :)
vielen dank :) freut mich dass es dir gefällt!
Also ich benutze für die Orchestersounds EastWest Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Gold das ist eine Soundlibrary bzw VST plugin. Das gibts auch in abgespeckt als Silver edition die ist recht günstig und gut für einsteiger!
Hmmm... Cool, bei der Silver sind ja sogar Chorstimmen dabei. Das liest sich ja mal richtig cool. Ich denk, ich lad mir dann mal so langsam die Trialversion von Cubase herunter.( Wenn ich das dann kapiert habe kommt dann wohl EastWest dran) Welche Versin hast du bei Cubase genutzt? Ich frage mich gerade, ob die Elements - Version da auch ausreichend ist, für Private Zwecke. Upgraden kann man ja später anscheinend immer noch. :)
How did you create that "boom" effect at 6:47? Sounds amazing.
its an E-Bass witch a pitch-automation! I bent the note until it hit the new note. I wouldn't do it like this now a days! I found some better Samples included in cubase that sound better and have a much better effect :)
Thanks for the reply! Also what's that high pitched instrument at 4:50 in the back?
you mean the organ?
Tobias Scheel Yes.. Thank you! 😃
:D you are very welcome!
Did you use only EWQL Symphonic Orchestra in all those compositions? Is this Gold or Platinium version?
I only use the Gold Edition of Symphonic Orchestra! :)
How does one make this?
Hey man, thats some great work there.
I wont lie, i just need someone to be honest with right now, ive been writing compositions for like 2 years now, never actually managed to get that "real" sound, you know like an impression of an orchestra playing, that kind of sound that can qualify to be played in a movie/animation.
And im sitting here right now, listening to your music basically thinking: "HOOOW?" I'm sure im doing something wrong, i mean obviously i am, cause i dont really do too many adjustments to the instruments, i just go with what there is (I use EWQL Silver edition). Plus having no musical education, im kinda a beginner in orchestration. But i manage to create SOMETHING with my ear, but im not satisfied.
Its just that, i love creating music, and i feel really down for not being able to keep improving, you know, i want to achieve that level of sound and quality, but i just dont know where to begin, what to do, what to learn.
I don't know, is there anything i can do? I'm sure there is, i just need to be shown a way and im hoping that maybe you or someone else has achieved it can help...
Hi, sry for late response! The most important thing is that you understand how the orchestra "works"! You have to imagine there are 80 people sitting there, playing your piece! there are some "rules" you could follow that i mentioned beneath in the comments! Some like the flutes should sometimes double the 1st violins to make it more organic and warm, the oboe goes very well together with the trumpets and the bassoon with the cello! You don't have to hear every instrument loud and clear! sometimes its just for color! flutes in real live would never be louder than violins for example, same goes for oboe and trumpets! so let them play harmonies sometimes, so the woods can either add a little color in the melodie or they simply complement each other! I started of covering orchestral pieces to learn how different composers used certain instruments! As a musician myself i'm also lucky I get to play along a lot of real instruments so i know what suits them. if that makes sense :D But I am afraid you will not get around getting musical education! it makes composing music so much easier. I don't heavily master my tracks!
Have you ever bothered to do some actual research on rules of orchestration? There is a good bit of information out there about it. Like which instruments work well together, which instruments can realistically be used with different articulations/ornaments like legato, appregiation, etc.
Superb, Do you have a website?
thank you! No I dont... you can listen to all my tracks and get in touch with me via Soundcloud and CZcams :)
Just out of curiosity, do you work professionally? What type of rates do you charge? (If you are at liberty to disclose) again just pure curiosity.
I have never written a piece for money. in my opinion my music is not good enough yet to charge money for it. Maybe in the future!
I charge money for music, and your music is much better than mine.
So you played these songs on a guitar using a TriplePlay?
David Ysasi no, i used a MIDI Keyboard 👌🏻
Tobias Scheel ahhh okay. Do you have the gold or platinum version? Sorry for all these questions btw
I own the Gold Version! Don't worry I'm Glad i can help!
how much time did you spend on each of these compositions...
some took weeks, some just a few days :) it depends on how much time ou spent per day on each track!
@@TobiWobi7 knowing the "multies" you mean dont you?.There are already ensembles and multies,but you also can make your own ones...!!There are vsts that allows you to make multies through diferent vst orchestras.For example you can take sus violins from VSL and combine them with East Wests ensemble brass and as on.Put another 1 ensemble from Cinesamples and a fourth one from Spitfire.Then you have something crazy
What version of ewql was the first piece?
Every piece in this was done using the Gold version :)
I was once looking for a professional musical career, but it is very hard to get a step into it... so right now, this is just for fun. I wont stop composing and maybe some time I'll get lucky :)