Obi-Wan Kenobi Full Series Review
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- Obi-Wan Kenobi has completed its run on Disney Plus! What did I like about it? What are my criticisms? Find out in my full series review!
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I feel like Vader telling Obi-Wan he killed Anakin helped the whole 'certain point of view' thing stand up a bit better. Obi-wan didn't just make up that Vader killed Anakin, Vader literally told him that.
So true
And why he called him Darth on the Death Star
" you are a master of evil Darth"
" you were thinking of Baron zemo, Obi-Wan"
Very true.
The one criticism I agree with the most is how the other inquisitors were just dropped from the storyline for the last two episodes. It did feel weird that they just disappeared from the story
They're minor characters, though. it wasn't about them. They served their purpose.
@@marshamoseley5878 Oh I don't think they need to play a major role in the last two episodes. But still seemed weird with a big confrontation with a powerful Jedi & with the discovery of The Path they were no where to been seen. Seems like it would of been a case of all hands on deck to go after the Path and Kenobi. I still loved the series but that one part just seemed a little weird that the characters vanished from the storyline without explanation
@@yhctower I suspect it served mostly to introduce non-animated viewers to the concept of the inquisitors, so that they can have them appear at other points without having to explain that yes there are other inquisitors, and no Reva wasnt the only one etc.
Yes, but I guess it is more between Vader and Obi-wan. The Inquisitors have their spotlight in Rebels. Just like Luke has his in the original trilogy. Still it would have been awesome to see them kicking some ass in live action.
The last two episodes was more about Darth Vader and Obi Wan Kenobi, hence the Inquisitor being rejected by Vader, cause G.I. wanted to keep following the Path members instead of Obi wan Kenobi
Still can’t believe we got Liam Neeson as Qui Gon again. If nothing else, this series gave me that incredibly joyful moment. I literally cheered. I really liked the series overall but that ending was fantastic
thats called the power of fanservice in my opinion and it makes me kinda sad that you can write and produce such a bad story with zero heart put into and people just "like" it because "Oh my God they put 5 secs of Qui Gon into the Series" :/ .Not to mention that most of the series makes 0 Sense and the Series feels like a massive cashcrap imo
its the same thing with episode 9 but dont let me get started on this one xD
He could've used more makeup and hair dye, though. It was obvious that he was much older, despite how Force Ghosts aren't supposed to age (or can even become younger) from when the Jedi died.
Q and A Do you think that In Andor we could see Roken again being a rebel commander and somehow leading force sensitive into battle? Also do you think we could see Bail show up again in the show? Also good to see that Andor is doing more on set and does feel more movie like
I would love to see roken again in andor
I would love to see him again
I hope so, O’Shea and Kunail are too good to only have the limited roles that had time for in this series so I’d love to see them both back in some form.
I think Roken is a better fit for the sort of show Andor will likely be than Bail. As much as I love Bail I think Andor will be more about the boots on the ground rebels as opposed to more the quiet bankrollers like Bail is.
I think the next time we see Roken and The Path is Fallen Order 2 or at least I hope so. I really want Andor to be more like Rogue 1 and focus less on The Force. I feel we really need much more of that in SW right now.
Leia naming her son Ben makes more sense now because of this series
Yet, she forgets that she ever met him only 9 years later in Episode IV....
@@4ndroidG Right? So lame.
This show had it's flaws, but I connected on it very personally. I interviewed for a job recently and was very nervous beforehand. Seeing Obi-Wan return to being a Jedi to face his fears gave me a feeling of calm and confidence going in. Loved the show!
cute
When all's said and done, I really enjoyed this one and that's not just because Obi-Wan Kenobi is my favorite Star Wars character of all time. I felt the themes, story ideas and character moments were great, and for the most it is a great bridge between the PT and OT. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen reprised their roles effortlessly, and Viven Lyra Blair was absolutely wonderful as young Leia and I hope she has a prosperous career ahead of her. Throughout the whole show I completely bought that she would grow up into young Carrie Fisher and makes me so bummed that Carrie is gone; she woulda loved Blair and coulda been a cool granny mentor to her.
I suppose my only nitpick is how the presentation seems just a bit...off. Not that it's bad, but moreso than Mando and Book you can really feel that this was made for a small screen. It's rather ironic that Mando and Book, small-scale stories, appear to be shot and presented on a grander scale while the show about one of the most famous OG Star Wars characters feels the most reserved and tight. Again, not bad, just really noticeable. Reva's story kinda lost me by the end and I'm a bit wary of her surviving, but we'll see if they do anything with her down the line.
I'd say that this is the 2nd strongest D+ live action show debut season, under Mando but above Book. My ranking of the episodes would be 3>6>5>1>2>4. Not sure if I'd want a season 2 given how this one ended, but we'll see. Overall this was a great show and I feel is the easiest to get into for casual viewers who've only seen the movies. The best way I feel for a rewatch is to split the 6 episodes into 3 blocks of 2 each to view them like movies.
For the flaws it has and knowing where things end up. I was surprisingly engaged. The dynamic between Obi-wan and Vader carried this show and sheds new light in their interactions in ANH.
Well said Alex. I had my quibbles with how some of the story went on -- the coincidence that the random farmer Reva threatens in Episode I is in fact the uncle looking after Anakin's son, and that she is able to put this all together via broken message from Bail Organa that should never have been sent to begin with, is a bit much for me -- but all in all I am pretty satisfied with this series. I really thought every cast member brought it.
She probably never did figure out just who the boy was, just that he was important to Obi-Wan. She also had to ask the local populace to find out just who "Owen" was and where he lived. The only stretch is that she just happened to start looking in the right area of Tatooine despite having no previous knowledge of where on the entire planet Obi-Wan and Owen lived.
Great review. Very even-handed and fair. I don't include SW Explained in this category, but after Part 3, I had to stop watching all of the CZcams film pundits that became a part of my daily viewing habits since the shutdown. I watched people whose opinions I respect a great deal start off with the basic premise of liking an episode, just to end up talking themselves into NOT liking that same episode after a two hour recap show. It's like paralysis by analysis. In fairness to them, I've watched them do the same thing with the Marvel D+ shows, and I was fine with it. But, my emotional connection with this project was so deep, I just had to tune out the noise and judge it based on my own reactions. All of that said, I watched and enjoyed your coverage of the show, and I can't wait for 'Andor' Hope that AC gets fixed!
Great comment. I had the same problem. I am normally fine with a diversity of opinions and very laid back. But I had to disengage with fandom during this show, the negativity seemed out of proportion, especially the rotten tomatoes reviews before the story finished. Great series with a few clunky writing issues at times and some transcedentally beautiful writing too.
But they did use prequel music: major mode rendition of “Battle of the Heroes” was used as the motif for the flashback duel. Beautiful moment no one seems to have noticed.
Question is, how does Reva keep surviving Lightsaber stabs?
Just enjoy the ride lmao
Revenge
Revenge does wonders to the soul
Pure spite
@@miguelcmr54 Exactly
Haha 7:39 you forgot to put two bright red lazers on Kathleen Kennedy's eyes lol before posting that Acolyte image! 🤣
I mean, isn't that the trendy thing to do, nowadays?! (especially on CZcams)
_(but seriously, THANK YOU for always staying so positive and maintaining such a great, inclusive channel here @StarWarsExplained Alex!)_
🤜💥🤛
(and Mollie too, of course) ✌
This absolutely should've been a film, having every project be a streaming series makes Star Wars feel small (especially thanks to The Volume)
the volume allows for more star wars so just enjoy it and relax
Too bad the first major pandemic in a hundred years had its own opinion on that.
I agree Nick. It's time to bring Star Wars back on the big screen. The tv shows is decent/good but there is nothing like a big budget Star Wars adventure on the big screen.
Now I know how Princess Leia knew of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
It was already known. She mentions it in the message to Obi-Wan in Episode IV. Obi-Wan served her father in the clone wars according to her....
@@4ndroidG With no mention of how they spent all that time together? And saving her? Lame
Can we move on from this expectation that every fantasy TV show has to have gigantic set pieces for it to qualify as great? Not every show should or can be Game of Thrones 100% of the time, not even Game of Thrones for that matter.
There's definitely a growing expectation that every show be just visually amazing or folks will treat it like it was done in someone's garage for $15.
If they end up doing a season 2 (which I am highly opposed to) I think it has to be completely on Tatooine. Maybe we follow him in his training with Qui Gon.
If there's a season 2, I'd want exactly that, Obi-wan training with Qui-gon
...and maybe some relevant flashbacks to pre Attack of the Clones with a new kid cast as 12-13 year old Anakin 😎
They will push more Reva on us...
And if they want an antagonist for him to fight on Tatooinee, they could always just recanonize that Tusken Raider Jedi and the entirety of his legends story, (A'Sharad Hett was his name,) he survived Order 66 and went back to the tribe that raised him on Tatooinee. He eventually started causing trouble by helping his tribe take back lands by force, and endangering Tatooinee's inhabitants, so that was when Obi-Wan came out and confronted him.
The two would duel, and Obi-Wan would end up defeating him, and slicing off his arm; and then the Tuskens would then proceed to ban him for failing to defeat Kenobi. This is the same Jedi that goes on to become the Sith Lord known as Darth Krayt some decades after the original trilogy.
So they could easily do this, and while at the same time, setting up A'Sharad Hett as Darth Krayt in a post sequel trilogy era.
Riveting
yeah let's leave it to the professional's please. 6 episodes of yoga poses would be annoying
I never noticed how in real life Carrie Fishers mother died of a broken heart and father died from surgical complications. And in Star Wars Leia's mother died of a broken heart and father should've been dead on that operating table when becoming Vader.
You can’t die from a broken heart.
That’s not how the force works in our universe
@@guciowitomski3825 Heart failure. Many people do get so sad that they die. It’s actually a thing. Scientifically it’s always related to heart failure of some kind and in her case likely medication but sadness can bring all sorts of medical complications on oneself including prescribed drug use.
Thanks for pointing his out. I remember Tolkien got so deep into his writing he lost reality. They say some actors often meet the same or similar fate of their biggest most well played characters. And writers sometimes fall to getting lost in their longest series of books. Perhaps there is truth to it.
@@guciowitomski3825 you can die from a broken heart. It's very unlikely but it's called broken heart syndromes. Happens from extreme emotional stress or trauma.
@@guciowitomski3825 there’s no force dude lol
I like this series for what it is despite its flaws. I actually do not want a second season as I don't know what else they can do with Kenobi during this time period without bumping up against established canon. I mean they were pushing the limits by using legacy characters like Leia and Luke.
For a second season what could they possibly really do? Obi-wan Kenobi chilling with Qui-gon would be interesting for an episode but that's it. Another confrontation between Maul and Kenobi in live action would be awesome but that would conflict with what we see in Rebels. Personally I agree that we need to see more stories centered away from the Skywalker saga and delving into new characters.
The only thing I'd cut is the stuff with Reva in episode 6. I would've liked her story better if it ended in tragedy.
Not to mention, we've seen too many redemptions in Star Wars, imo. It's just not interesting anymore, especially for someone like Reva who's done so much bad stuff and did so little to make up for it in this series.
Redemption is the absolute heart of Star Wars
Agreed a well constructed statement.
Since we had flashbacks, I wish they had shown Reva becoming an Inquisitor, shown her tragic nature, shown her regret. It would have given a bit more depth to her.
A fitting tragic AND redeeming(or complete fall) end would have been her emotionally engaging and distracting Vader long enough to let the Path ship escape.
She was a young Jedi, when order 66 happened, she wants to do good, meanwhile struggling with the dark side of the force, the ending was good, we are talking about Luke Skywalker not getting crushed
Factssss she should of died when Vader stabbed her that’s scene was so good how her vision went blurry and I honestly had so many emotions about believing she died right then and there
I still think the writing was very poor. The character of Reva was irrelevant. The actor playing her was fine, but the if she/the character wasn't in the show, would it have taken away? The answer is no.
All I cared about was Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor's performances.
Should 100% have been a movie as originally planned, rather than a six episode series, 40 minutes each. Also, love the writing, but why is the production value so low?
Agreed, shame Solo flopped and killed the "a Star Wars Story" branding because of women in the sequels...I mean terrible time management on Disney's part!
This and the Book of Boba could have been easily movies (even Disney + exclusives) with a higher budget and tighter storytelling. Funnily enough, those two were supposed to be "A Star Wars Story" movies...
@@bongokongo8463 going to ignore what you said about women in the sequels, also i serioulsy think that the whole Mandalorian-verde (mando, bobf, ahsoka, rangers) should be one anthology show, like clone wars was.
@@DorsenFilm I agree. I think the MCU has been disastrous to film as an artform and Star Wars bending the knee to the shared universe idea with different shows all connected might really compromise its quality.
@@bongokongo8463 the MCU actually knows what it is doing tho, the problem is that other studios try to create their own cinematic universes without understanding why the MCU works. It is the reason that the MCU is still the only widely liked Cinematic universe, and why i honestly dont think any other IP should attempt it.
@@bongokongo8463 you had some sexism in that comment. I'm going to ignore that part as well.
I just rewatched the entire thing yesterday, and tbh it’s 100 fold better if you binge watch it, rather than wait a week for every episode.
There aren’t really cliffhangers, etc, thus watching this as a whole is a much better experience imo
Exactly, like watching a 3½ hour movie
I think Reva becomes the Tusken Raider wearing black robes in Book of Boba Fett
THANK YOU for mentioning the volume and its limitations! I asked about it in another video but really hadn't heard anyone talk about it. I noticed it a bit in Boba Fett as well.
I watch movies more for story element than visuals. So I actually really liked this one, as well as Boba Fett and Mando. I get wrapped up in the story and I don't really notice how pretty the setting is, if that makes any sense at all. I think they did a good job. My wish list: A clone wars story (with the clones). That was my favorite era, and I feel like there is soooo much that they could do with it.
have you watched the clone wars?
You know there's a litteral series called The Clone Wars? A show. With the clones. How can you have missed this????
@@stofosaurus Yes, I've watched the Clone Wars. I meant live action.
I agree with many points you made, especially the lack of 'surprise element' and the lack of music themes (considering how flogged it was in the trailer). However, a positive note about using the Volume in production is the realistic lighting. In particular the lightsaber glow on the faces of Kenobi and Vader in the finale. Which I believe added to the emotional impact of their performances and the sound design of Anakin/Darth's voice. We have never got that before with a green screen as good as that.
Great review. I would like to see a season 2 of Obi-Wan and his experiences up to a New Hope. Its obvious that Luke knows him more by a New Hope and that he has been to his house before. Also a young Leia series would be great. There is so much material between the end of Obi-Wan to Rogue One to explore. Of course a Vader series would break records for Disney. I would rather see that than the High Republic stuff.
Ewan is up for it, so let's do it. Obi-Wan series 2 all about him being a secret jedi and a thankless protector of the people on Tatoonine.
Good takes here, Alex. I mean, I had some complaints about certain moments of execution and writing here and there, especially with some visuals, but none of that took away from the power of the narrative for me. The story and the thematic concepts just worked for me on pretty much every level. I really and truly don’t think this “broke canon” as much as I’m seeing people say it did. For every question the show put out, I feel like they either provided a direct answer (i.e. everything with the Grand Inquisitor), or a moment in which we could do some guessing and arrive at a logical conclusion. Guesswork and speculation aren’t always bad things, imo.
Also, everything with Vader and Obi-Wan just really worked for me, especially their moment in the finale. Strong 8 out of 10 overall.
This show didn’t break canon. It gave us a glimpse of more of the iceberg… or the Fortress Inquisitorious, or whatever imagery you want to use to describe Star Wars storytelling. It literally filled in and gave us more canon.
@@amaranthpaean 100% agree there!
As great an opportunity and cost saving measure as the Volume and StageCraft is, I really do have issues with the creative limitations of the process.
As you mention, it’s looking like the number of characters that can safely fit in the Volume is limited, so crowd scenes or full military scenes feel small and at times underwhelming. But, there are also visual things, lighting - and specifically shadows and contrast - really removes dimension and makes scenes sometimes look a little flat. Even action scenes feel paired back. We’ll see what we get with Andor, but I’m hoping that the Volume eventually becomes a tool rather than seemingly the whole stage. But, budget I guess will dictate that.
it was a nice journey indeed. the overall plot was a fan speculation i read before they even started filming. nicely developed tho. interesting they chose leia being the friend to rescue. that was nice. and they filled it with characters from the movies, other series' and games. call it fan service or it all being tied together. all good. production was solid. in some shots you can see the budget, some weird cameras, some oddities here and there, discontinuity, lost story tracks, but it's minor things in the moment. not that big of an issue. vfx were great ofc. the story came across. and it was good. that's all that matters. :)
Such a fresh and beautiful take on the show as a whole keep up the great work!
If I had I major gripe, it was the action scene camera work being super jerky and hard to see through. I feel like I could definitely appreciated Vaders fight with Reeva or Obi-Wan more if we could see them properly.
I really enjoyed the show. It’s probably my favourite of the three live actions we’ve gotten thus far. Additionally, I enjoyed that the show was a bit more even handed with the cameos and Easter eggs. At times with Mando and especially with Boba it felt like they were making a concerted effort to have everything on screen be some sort of call back to something else, and it just got to be a lot. Obi Wan however was a lot more conservative, and at no point was I left scratching my head and thinking “was this character showing up really necessary?”
Agreed on all points. I definitely think this was the best of the live action D+ series.
I think I mostly agree with your criticisms of The Volume and the music. But on my second watches, those concerns evaporated and I was just enjoying the ride. If it was poorly written or Ewan, the other actors, or Deborah Chow phoned it in to pick up a paycheck, then yes; this would have been a let down. But it was so well done despite its budgetary limitations that I am A-OK with what was presented.
I am now even more interested in reading Master and Commander after the final scene of the show and I immediately hopped on Amazon and pre-ordered the Ben on Eopie Funko Pop which releases just after my birthday.
So yes, I’d say this show was awesome and worth the wait. I laughed, I wondered, I got suspicious, and even got emotional, so this holds a special place in my youthful heart as Obi-Wan was my favorite character in the prequel trilogy. I suppose it was the Boy Scout in me or that I have red hair, but I was so looking forward to this show and it paid off!
The Fifth Brother had a massive amount of screen time compared to the Fourth Sister, who barely scratched the surface.
I enjoyed the show and have no real major complaints. It probably should have remained a movie, and I'm sure that there's a 2.5 hour fan edit in the works by someone out there with the technical knowhow to do it, but for what it is, I'm content with what we were given. I'd love to see what someone comes up with in a movie length edit though because this could be something that when trimmed down could be really really good, and then that makes the show an optional Extended Edition for anyone with more time on their hands.
A flawed but charming diamond. It made me feel like a kid in the 80s again when the original trilogy would be on the TV every christmas
Same, but you can binge watch this one in 3½ hours
Of course y'all would have the best review of the overall. I agree with each criticism. Sure, I had more, but this was easily an 8/10 for me. Honestly, I think the music bit needed to be better. I'm fine with the lackluster feel of big since I was focused on the characters. I feel this is more a character story vs a world story, so I was fine with that choice. Thanks for the video.
Q&A: What was your favorite high republic moment so far and would you want more shows set in that part of the time line like the acolyte will be?
Better than I had hoped actually. Between Obi-Wan and Andor, I was more enthusiastic for Andor because Obi-Wan I thought would be filler in a section of the timeline for people we already basically knew what happened. But they had some great moments. I loved it, but I do expect to enjoy Andor even more, because of what you mention about not knowing anything.
You should check "the book of Boba Fett" and " the Mandalorian" . Those will blow your mind
@@DonGivani Oh yeah, I loved both of them. Mandalorian is my fav so far.
I really liked the soundtrack playing during the "Anakin is gone" scene
This series I thought was very well done and the thing that we need to be mindful of when it comes to the execution of the show this was shot during pandemic times so how are you supposed to crowd a whole bunch of storm troopers in the one room when the pandemic was at its height when this was being shot. I really had a fun time with the story. And I really don’t want there to be a season two. However I would like to know what happens to Reva after all this? Does she get rec-captured by the empire and then arrested? Does she go into hiding? Or does she get brave and join the beginning of the rebellion? I kinda wanna know that. My only criticism for the series was that the grand inquisitor should’ve stayed dead because I feel like Star Wars has been leaning too much on oh they are not dead lately. I feel like you can only use that idea so many times before it gets stale which it already has for me.
Grand Inquisitor couldn't stay dead as he dies in Rebels, which is another 4-5 years later. I would like to have seen a scene where GI is found/taken by the other Inquisitors (painfully) given cybernetics as they did with Fennec Shand in Book of Boba. That said, yeah, SW leans far too heavily on their established tropes. LIke yeah, we get the cyclical storytelling stuff, but sometimes I think writers tend to forget every other writer is also using those same tropes and cyclical writings, so we just spin in so many circles.
It was clear that it wasn't going to be the story I wanted after episode one. Setting those expectations aside, and taking the series as the thing that it is, I liked it over all. I think each episode was better than the one before it. The writing on a macro scale was good, but I think the more I pick it apart the less praise I have. Especially when it comes to Lisa's dialogue, I just have a hard time believing that a child would act or speak that way, regardless of their history. But if the biggest issue I have with a series I've wanted this much for this long is some choppy dialogue in a Star Wars show (gasp) I think that's pretty good.
I think that's the star wars fandoms undoing. By picking it apart, we ruin it for ourselves, to the point where even the smallest breach of Canon or odd choice somehow become a huge deal. I try to avoid that these days, and I try to avoid the content creators that tell me I should be annoyed that a weapon disappeared in the throne room fight when I didn't even notice, and unfortunately a lot of creators are going down that road these days. Except SWE. He's still the man.
Agreed I had to get over the fact of what the story was going to be about around the same time you did. I was hoping for pre anakin adventures myself. I didn’t really want to see more of the Obiwan anakin ark. Maybe because I saw clone wars and rebels not sure but That said it was a pretty cool series’s never the less.
Lol it’s not about what you want tho
That is the allure of The Mandalorian. New Character, new story. That said, I thought Obi-wan Kenobi was amazing! So well done.
QnA: Do you think a season 2 is a good idea and what story you would love to see ?
Aw kinda missed the logo intro at the beginning of the video.
I loved this series though I do think this would've been great as a movie, I love that we got to spend just a bit more time on this story. I wasn't expecting Leia to be in it at all and I love that she was. It adds so much to the Skywalker movies for me, and that definitely includes the sequels. And I can really relate to the journey that Obi-wan went through.
Is it just me or are his videos just really boring? I think he has good opinions but I really wish he had background music it would be more engaging.
@@danielanderson6933 Personally, I don't see how background music would add to his videos.
@@RbkARI Every other Star Wars CZcamsr has background music and it really helps when you're cooking or trying to fall asleep or simply as background noise, it's an amazing combination. Unfortunately Star Wars Explained just used his voice so his videos sound like a boring lecture or vocal instruction manual, if that makes any sense.
I just got recommended an article that claimed Obi-Wan Kenobi has killed the star wars franchise and it just made me so frustrated. Thank you for making these videos you never fail to restore my faith in star wars fans.
Personally I wasn't excited for Obi-Wan Kenobi. Partially because of it being a bridging story. Partially because of the comics with his journals and my fears the show would retcon things (but it makes perfect sense he wouldn't write about Leia or Reva in his journal because of the danger they were both in). Partially because I didn't grow up on the prequels so I didn't have the same nostalgia or expectations as a lot of people did (ahsoka is where all my hopes like that lie since I grew up with clone wars and rebels and the canon thrawn trilogy). And I think the fact that I wasn't excited made me love this show.
I feel like a lot of people were blinded by their expectations and became so fixed on what they wanted that they couldn't just sit back and enjoy the ride. The show surprised me in ways I didn't expect it to, and did an amazing job with character development. My favourite part was definitely Reva's journey and my favourite moment was her bringing Luke back and crying. (Maybe partially because the thing I was most excited about in this series was the inquisitorius).
I feel like it's so easy to let the haters sour our enjoyment of things. Watching these videos reminds me of what I loved in it. I think Obi-wan Kenobi was pretty much the best show it could've been. And I still think we need to be leaving the Skywalker saga behind for the moment (possibly forever), but I'm glad Obi-Wan Kenobi happened, and I hope they utilise Reva well in future (maybe in jedi Survivor as an ally to cal I would be so happy).
Honestly, I never noticed any budget issues here, especially compared to Bobas series.
I think they were mich better here about using their camera in the volume.
Yeah I agree that some of the series issues could of been fixed if it had been a movie. I still really liked the series tho! I hope we get to see young Leia again at some point. Maybe a cameo in Andor or something idk. Acolyte is something I’m interested in because it’ll be all new. I tried reading the first book of the High Republic era but had trouble finishing it.
For the life of me, I CANNOT understand why a series would have a shorter budget than a feature film, why not have a set budget per intended hour of content??
This show REALLY lacked iconic star wars music. That's my biggest problem with the show.
Just... Good review 👍 thanks!
It's my favorite series so far from Disney Star Wars. Epic and truly emotional !
I viewed this series as if it were a long movie with different parts (like Zack Snyder's Justice League) and tbh I was all the better for it! I encourage everyone to do the same even if you've watched the series part by part. Anyways, it was supposed to be a film to begin with.
Did I have issues with it? Absolutely, though they were mostly very minor. But they would never take away from the absolute blast I had with this "movie". Kenobi's story in this series, his r/s with Leia, the use of Vader/Anakin, Reva's arc, side characters like Haja, Tala and her droid were all done very well.
I thought seeing Hayden and Ewan alone would bring me so much joy, but all these elements worked very well together and delivered a 4+ hour movie I wouldn't hesitate to watch again!
QnA: Do you think Reva letting go of her hate means she will succumb to her wounds shortly after?
Possibly
Who else thinks that Lola is a hidden Mickey in Star Wars?
Question - Do you think Reva is being built as a Canon version of Starkiller? Do you think she might eventually make an appearance in Andor?
Clearly they are setting up this character to continue. She could figure heavily into a season 2 of Obi Wan, perhaps teaming up with him, or get a series of her own. I expect Disney is looking into the fan reaction to see how much to focus on her going forward, but I’m sure we haven’t seen the last of her.
I think Reva is less a Canon Galen and more a live action Ventress. I think Ventress has a lot of backstory baggage and is dead by the point that most of the shows are coming out, but the concept of a dark sider who is cut loose by their master and sort of drifts towards the light while never fully making it is a really good one, so I think they're setting her up to fill that narrative role.
Best review of the serie!! All the point you made were my exact feeling!! Not the perfect show but well enough that I will remember for a long time!! Obi Wan is truly the Goat 🐐!!!
I am glad you gave a positive review. I loved the show.
When it comes to the soundtrack I loved the anakins theme from part 6 but I was hoping for battle for hero's it was a bit lack.
I agree that some of the execution was a bit off, but those character moments coupled with the character’s journey was the best part of the series. I’m very much looking forward to Hayden reprising his role as Anakin, hopefully in the Ahsoka series!
Yess, can't wait for the Ahsoka series
I wonder if Covid is still an issue when it comes to getting a whole lot of people cooped up in a small space, the waves of variants keep coming, because it's getting relatively less aggressive some people only find out they have it if tested, which might mean surprises with the extras on the day of filming, and any delays if any of the main cast gets sick might throw the schedule out of whack.
Moses Ingram told in an interview they did COVID tests
I can’t believe I actually agreed with your review…..that said on surprised vs being surprised. I felt surprised in a lot of moments even though when they happened I knew right away what they were referring to. Still knowing ObiWan’s story left a lot of surprise to happen throughout the series. I rather be surprised than know everything and not being able to react to what’s happening.
For the most part, I like your analysis on this series. However I think your criticism of such a small Attack Force, take a look at it again look at the landscape they didn't really have a lot of real estate to stuff Scott Walkers or AT-AT's ... being 5 years old at the time of release of episode 4, the Star Wars saga has always been in my life. I've paid attention quite closely, catching some of the Side Stories not really interested in the animates,, for those of us who didn't see Rebels, found it to be very cool and surprising that Vader and Kenobi face off again you could say Vader Kenobi Park Ii,, considering their first encounter in the series was interrupted I love both of their battles as one,, I loved how they were using the Rocks against each other especially when Kenobi used him against Vader I thought was absolutely outstanding it made me actually laugh out loud because of how cool it was and how well done that whole scene was. Taking half of his mask off was pretty awesome. I believe it to be nitpicking a bit and if we're going to nitpick we could also talk about the recorded message and episode 4 from R2D2 to Ben Kenobi when Princess Leia States General Kenobi you served with my father in The Clone Wars like she had no memory of this situation and obviously as Star Wars fans we can let that little detail slide,,, I think Owen McGregor delivered a five-star performance and I honestly give this series of five star rating as 100% outstanding yeah one might talk about little idiosyncrasies but even in the major Motion Pictures in the early days there were a few that we overlooked,, I must say this rates number one in the series from Kenobi#2 Boba Fett#3 the Mandalorian, even though the Mandalorian got the ball rolling and was very good I honestly must say this miniseries was just Superior to both of them extremely well done.. from when this all started being a 5-year-old now being a 50-year-old we should all be thankful and very happy that this story lives on and is even gotten to be bigger and better as the years have gone by,, one thing I may disagree upon is I don't think it is possible for an overuse of Darth Vader I think if you took a poll and asked our fellow fans I think a lot of us wouldn't mind seeing even more and more of him.. maybe I feel this way because I am a first generation fan,, yeah the other Sith characters were just okay however there is no character like Darth Vader,, I would perhaps like to see a series centered around him so those of us that would like to see more of him get a very strong dosage LOL,, but yes all of the memory tie-ins and everything that you did mention this is why it adds up to still being a five-star series and again Ewan McGregor was simply fantastic he is done such a awesome job as replacing and owning the early years of our interpretation of what Obi-Wan Kenobi is so this is why I say a five-star performance on his part and again a five-star reading for the series. May the force be with you all,,, always
The amount of stormtroopers in episode 5 of the series worked for me.. the Empire's thought was "it's only a small group of Rebels trying to escape this will be easy.."
The arrogance and complacency of the Empire Strikes again. As Andor said.. "you just walk in like you belong.. they're so fat and arrogant they don't believe you can walk their floors, spit in their food..."
There's no excuse for the lack of established musical themes. For a simple reason, we had them all in the Prequels. The Force theme, Imperial march, Leia's theme and many others. If they were present in the Prequels, there's no reason for them not to be present in this series. Seems to me that the composer for this had ego issues and thought that her music will be original enough to replace Williams. She was wrong. For f***c sake, we have Leia's theme from the moment she was born and delivered to Alderaan. Why not have it since the first episode of this series...
I think my main problem was that Reva's character was randomly linked so closely to all of these legacy characters, it was little too close for my liking; (Vader, Obi-Wan, Luke, Leia, Owen, Beru, and so on,) that connection just felt very out of place and forced.
I mean, she now conveniently knows about all these secrets surrounding the legacy characters (Vader's true identity, and Obi-Wan's & Luke's presence on Tatooinee,) and then they proceeded to keep her alive... that's very risky to the lore, and Reva's probably gonna have some serious plot armor so as to not divulge such sensitive information, which means there won't hardly be any stakes with the character.
With that said, they should've just killed her off at the end, there's no point in keeping side characters alive just to make more pointless spin-off shows.
I totally agree. It was unnecessary risking of the lore. That she then survives with no consequence makes it even worse. They must have been forced to shoehorn her into the plot. To set her up for her own spin-off show.
Makes one wonder where the budget went as the Mandalorian according to rumous had a lot less to work with and still managed to deliver unshaky camera shots and well lit vistas. But, i am still wanting season 2, hopefully with dialogue and backstory. Thinking smaller and more driven by the characters being key. As there are stories to tell here if you know where to look for ;)
Considering Hayden and Ewan, especially Hayden were pretty lukewarm on returning to SW, and they also had to hire James Earl Jones, and they got John Williams out of retirement, I think a lot of the money went into the casting for this one.
Thanks, Alex! 🤩
I'm guessing we're gonna get a Reva series?
obi wan soundtrack streaming june 27th! and i agree i wouldve liked more prequel era music. overall i loved the score
Definitely have mixed feelings on this show. The last couple of episodes were good and that final confrontation with Obi-Wan and Vader was great. I just feel like too much of the show before then was just mediocre at best. The whole character of Reva didn't add much to the story and didn't make sense half the time. The inquisitors in general were really poorly portrayed imo. I loved that little actress that played Leia. That was excellent casting. Ewan and Hayden were great. Just feel the writing and overall scope of the show was very questionable...
Overall I'd probably give the show a 6/10.
Deborah Chow and the cast did a great job. was very happy with the story we got. Enjoyed the character of Reva a lot... not sure that her walking away knowing the location of Luke was the right choice. Sure, some of the effects could have been better but we love the originals and the prequels, right? :)
🤩 30-year old Vader was a great bridge between trilogies! Angry, brash, vengeful. Until the “I’m sorry Anakin” moment gets too personal and Vader buries Anakin a little deeper…
Beautiful critique! I agree.
This was my favorite show so far. Flawed? Of course. Unnecessary? I could extend that sentiment towards everything post the Disney purchase. But, the show had heart, and explored the theme of hope and healing from our mistakes. My biggest complaint is probably episode 4 feeling a bit repetitive with Leia being kidnapped again, but otherwise the show was never boring or downright terrible. It had some of the goofiness that Star Wars is known for. Otherwise, I agree with your other criticisms of the show, and I think it is healthy to look at things from a good faith angle. Overall 8.5/10
John Williams only composed Obi-Wan's theme. Natalie Holt was the main composer of the series.
Here's an interesting reading that I'm curious as to your thoughts on:
In the final fight after Vader gets his faceplate cut off, when he says "I am not your failure Obi Wan..." this is actually what's left of Anakin talking, basically telling Kenobi that what's happening isn't his fault but Anakin's. This is why his face is in blue-purple lighting. When the light shifts to pure red that's when he becomes Vader again.
I was expecting Din and Grogu arriving in their Naboo Starfighter time machine, tho...
This is what I’ve always wanted and I loved it!
Amazing how i agree with you 100%.
About the music I got distracted that Kenobi's theme sounds like the intro to the Spider-Man PS4 theme.
i think this would have been better served being a video game. the adventure would be great, but the episodes each felt like a new level. would have eben really cool to be able to BE kenobi, and the struggle for him to reconnect with the force would have been the perfect vehicle to allow the players to slowly gain more and more force abilities as the game progressed, like in fallen order. i liked the series, and i hope we get to see where reva goes next, but as a show it kind of fell flat for me. a more immersive experience like a game would have enhanced the experience, at least for me.
then by all means, please enlighten me; why was the force theme & imperial march saved for the end?
To pack a little more of a punch? In TROS the Force Theme is used like six times. Going to that well so often diminishes the impact.
Vader, Leia, and Obi-Wan were all growing into who they are in A New Hope. We finally hear Leia's theme as she starts to *become* the leader we meet in ANH. We hear the Force theme after Obi-Wan fully reconnects with the Force again. We hear the Imperial March after Darth Vader recommits himself to the Emperor over his quest to find Kenobi. And remember, we don't hear the Imperial March until TESB. Even Rogue One barely used it. And The Clone Wars used it as Anakin steps closer to who he will become.
I still wish they used more prequel era music and themes that were set up in the "past."
@@kennethchia4194 well, that...actually kind of makes sense
@@joshfactor1 LOL, I try!
The Grand Inquisitor was a high point for me. A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one. :)
For me it was the emotional journey - the climax added depth and texture to the broken relationship of anakin and Kenobi as well as demonstrated how destructive Anakin turning evil destroyed so much. Exceeded my expectations with those last two episodes
The show was rough, execution not on the same level as Mandalorian. Some scenes were just shameful (helmet slap, or kill of the imperial guard in the same room as other imperials). I sometimes feel they just say "good enough".
I hope the Ahsoka show will be better on the production and execution side. And I say it again, watching the Boys and stranger things during the runtime of Kenobi, really shows the lack of overall quality.
To conclude with a positive note, Ewan did an outstanding job and it was a joy watching him act the hell out of that character. Also little Leia kind of worked pretty good, the actress did very well and I hope we see more of her and the character.
Mandalorian was a backdoor pilot for it's entire second season. I would much rather watch something this flawed, than something with the veneer of looking good and end up just being a trailer for sequels and spinoffs
Personnally i think this show didnt delivered what it promised me. It would be better if it was a film there was definitly some things that could be easliy cut to show us only vader and obi stuff couse it was about them
I’ve seen the term “The Volume” a few times now, but it’s never been explained, and the people using it assume the viewer/reader knows what it means. But I don’t. So… what does it mean? XD
If I have one complaint it is the early dialogue the writers gave Reva. It was too cliché, which added to her one dimensionality. It didn't help me to take her seriously until later. There is cliché dialogue in SW, but if you give too much to one character it weakens them. I adjusted my initially low opinion of Moses' performance once I acknowledged she wasn't given great dialogue in the first half.
Honestly, my biggest Issue with this show was that it felt like a movie stretched out into a show. I do wonder if that’s what happened, like they had the script for the cancelled film lying around and made some edits.
technically 2 movies recorded as a tv show. plus everything at the cinema is just old Thinking. kill your past and move on
I wouldn’t get to hung up on the storm troopers. 3-1 with fire support is the appropriate number for an assault in the military. This was approx. 2 platoons against a 2 squad force.
Hard agree on what you said about the excitement going into Andor. I would love more stories about people in the Star Wars universe but outside of that immediate family line(s)
Do we know what happened to the 4th sister??
I think I’ll like the show more as time passes
Was happily surprised how much I enjoyed the show...all the characters and actors were great..would love to see the Anakin actor come back again at sometime
WADE?! Still no mention of Wade... What are you doing?! The man's sacrifice should not be understated.
just my honest, emotional opinion - Riva's story arc was either ill-conceived or badly acted. so much so i can't tell which. her motivations just collided awkwardly with each other and she never came over as convincing. but, what was most disappointing for me was the entire series absolutely shredded Star Wars cannon of both Vader/Kenobi, and Kenobi/Leia. Vader and Kenobi's exchange at the end of the fight scene in episode 6 was the best thing in the entire series. i wished they leaned more into Kenobi's internal conflict and they introduced more characters like Tala to amplify his conflict (Tala's character was well acted by the way). for me, little Leia was the only uplifting thing of the entire series. her presence enhanced her legend.
Moses Ingram did a great job. In the beginning episodes , she was the most villain if them all