It's a 'bad look' for Magic to take credit for Lakers success- Ric Bucher | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Ric Bucher sits with Jason Whitlock and Marcellus Wiley to discuss Magic Johnson's recent comments implying the Los Angeles Lakers would not be in this position without him. Hear why he thinks Magic should be letting somebody else sing his praises instead of claiming credit himself.
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It's a 'bad look' for Magic to take credit for Lakers success- Ric Bucher | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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Does Magic deserve any credit for the Lakers' success?
No and he need to shut up.
Yes because he quit
deevzrivera 😂
Yes ball players respect ball players.. u think Kerr can bring in LeBron or Magic... We both know that answer... But opposed to Jordan we may never know... Bidding war for Jordan or Magic... That's who LeBron respect... Not Polinka or Buss... Plz they brought Magic in to handle black business... Just like them high school days when a black would get n trouble they try to bring in the black administrator to handle the situation well at least they used to in my school... Got LeBron to sign making Magic expendable!!!
Its not Jeenie fault, it's Kobe's fault
He deserves credit for getting out and letting someone commit properly to the job !
The results are in.
Magic Johnson got rid of Lou Williams, a tremendous player, 6th man of the year, got rid of DeAngelo Russell, Drafted Lonzo Ball an injury-prone lousy shooting point guard (could have drafted Jayson Tatum instead), gave Zubac away to the Clippers (cross-town rivals) & let Thomas Bryant walk away for nothing, just a few of the former manager's mistakes. Then Johnson tried to sabotage the Laker team by quitting, crying to the media saying that Rob Pelinka & others in management criticized him "unfairly", that Pelinka was a "liar" & "hated" around the league, arguing that the Lakers were hopeless & going nowhere, implying that Jeanie Buss should sell the Lakers to him & some financial backers. Jeanie & the organization are being respectful & professional by not commenting on Magic's despicable comments & behavior since he quit the team. I believe that Jeanie realized that Johnson had become more of a problem than an asset to the Lakers & correctly cut ties with the former Laker great. Magic is showing exactly who he is & sadly, it's shameful.
You said everything I been saying for awhile now so his words dont mean much to me any more.
perfect summary.
Major facts spoken
Yea yo lol magic coming off the hook like wtf is he smoking on
I read half the comment and instantly liked
I give Magic credits for Lonzo Bust
JPOnline lol
EXACTLY!!!!
Lonzo really not playing bad with New Orleans
And giving away russel...giving away zubac and Lou to clippers,giving away brook lopez..
shut up i am awesome cap space 😂😂
Marcellus literally made no sense....
lol
For real
lol he likes to excessively argue circles, but sometimes a simple straightforward point is better received. Hence Whitlock's popularity/ratings
I actually agree with Whitlock on this one.
I've been a Lakers fan since '84.
I call b.s. on magic for this one.
Didn't he quit?
I'm confused.
He was forced to quit. Do your research. They didnt want him to get full credit for what his cashee would bring. Lbj came there because of magic. AD came because of magic. Well because lbj she said so. Oh well. Still all because of "the magician" hahahaha
Magic quit on the Lakers drafted lonzo 2nd and said he would get his number retired lol traded a good young center zubac for basically nothing
What zubac gonna do, he ain't a difference maker, stop it
@@AmanSingh-bt1rx he's an extra body that can give AD some rest. Great post player, PnR player, and a solid rim protector.
And he gave away Lou Williams for a box of cookies. Could you imagine him coming off the Lakers bench and his salary is cap friendly
Got rid of Lou Williams, and DeAngelo Russell
And look at them this trade dont look stupid to me, zubac dont even start.
This man left the world against Rob Pelinka when he quit and called him him a snake now he wants to come back and get credit
FG Gf didn’t think about it that way. You have a good point
Wiley made zero sense🤦🏾♂️
He quit and the roster got blown up . Cmon magic we lakernation love u but come on bruh
Magic is an egomaniac...
Matt Bayley 100%
MAGIC SHOULD TAKE CREDIT FOR HIS SON E.J. IMPROVED "TWERKING" ROUTINES AND FREE THROW SHOOTING AVERAGE !
Bucher 100% right!!!!!
LeBron was going to sign with Lakers with or without Magic.
Lebron has recently come out and said that is not true. I believe Lebron over you.
Magic comes off as annoying these past few years during this Lakers phase
Can't take credit for LeBron going to the Lakers when Bron wanted to go there in the first place.
LeBron wanted to live in LA for other reasons. He already had real estate there, he wanted his kids to get the coaching available in LA, there's the movie and endorsement businesses too.
Naw, LeBron wasn't going there to lose with that culture. At the time the Lakers was rivaling the James Dolan Knicks. Nobody wanted to the Lakers. Paul George resigned with OKC because though he wanted to be in LA, he couldn't bring himself to sign with the Lakers as a free agent.
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@@djpmaddog90 Bro, stop. The Lakers were in rebuild mode. They had acquired young players like Kuzma, Ingram, Ball, Hart.
Three of them got traded for AD. Kuzma is gonna be the Laker's #2 guy when LeBron retires.
Comparing them to the Knicks is downright dumb. And since when is Paul George's decision-making a factor in this? He re-signed with the Thunder because he didn't wanna play with LeBron and he actually enjoyed playing with Westbrook.
Seems you forgot all of this.
@@THE_BEAR_JEW Comparing them to the Knicks is not dumb, it's accurate. No big name free agents wanted to sign with the Lakers before Magic. You mention Ingram, Ball, and Hart like they're winning anything. They couldn't win with LeBron and now can't win in New Orleans. Before Magic came, the Lakers was a laughing stock team with rumors of who might come. Nobody ever came.
Max 117 You're absolutely right
Magic is really tarnishing his legacy.
Shawn William for real
Magic wants some love after he left, trashed Rob Palinka live on TV! Rob Palinka remained after he left but now he wants credit?! FOH
Young people, find someone who loves you as much as Marcellus Wiley loves the sound of his own voice.
Magic almost destroyed the franchise. Good riddance. Keep your nose out of the team business they are finally on the right track.
I think it's very strange that everyone cant be truthful... They didnt want him to complete the deal and stripped him of his power and he walks away... How can he be jealous, for what he rebuilt...
Jerome Thornton he was going to trade kuzma so........
Yes everyone can't be honest... Like you.
Lonzo= bust
Lost = Dlo
Lost= Lou Williams
Quit on teams
You're the one not being honest
Okay Lou Correct... Can We Say the Lakers are in a better situation from the time Magic got their until now?
Lol what he rebuilt must be a joke. All magic did was manage the team into a disaster by giving or losing good player's. Only after does the team get built by a miracle does he take credit.
@@Lightwood1977
No. He left before the AD trade. Before the coaches were in place and before the roster came together. Danny Green and Dwight were polenka. This actually is a false narrative.
when Magic quit they were a dumpster fire. And using the tony dungy comparison is really disrespectful because Tony Dungy didn’t quit and it was the same team that he built. The fact is that Magic didn’t build this team.
jeff r yeah but If not for magic LeBron wouldn't have came which also means no AD
Stop it Marcellus LeBron was going to the Lakers no matter what. It was reported summer 2017 he was going to the Lakers just like it was reported summer 2013 he was going back to Cleveland
(Wiley) Columbia? Really?
One of the greatest basketball players of all time! Magic (but when it comes to coaching the Lakers and managing laker's you ain't magic. The kids are balling the king and brow ! #management without magic
He tried to make the exact same deal but the gm was tripping.. That same Gm got fired for not making the deal
Lebron was coming to LA if Magic was there or not. Anthony Davis was coming to LA because Lebron wanted that to happen regardless of what Magic did or didn't do. So no Magic doesn't get any credit at all.
Magic was basically a Walmart greeter.....or the lipstick on the pig.
Sooooooo Magic says he didn't have the power that he thought he was going to get then he resigns. Also Magic says him Kawhi talked about him coming to the Lakers so Kawhi doesn't come cause he didn't like their convo getting out. Magic also talked about the organization so bad that players didn't want to come to L.A. . Let's also remember that Magic wasn't even doing MG work while he was in the organization........ But yeah he deserves credit lol.
Marcellus trying too hard....
Give him credit for quitting
Magic's words dont carry the power to me after drafting Ball over Fox,trading Zu for gabitch,trading Lou am I missing something....
My coach used to say Empty wagon makes the most noise you don’t have to make noise about yourself but people will 🥳Magic Johnson quit on the team so now he want Credit 🤔 Man sit down your making a lot of noise😳
magic lose his magic touch anymore a good legend for the lakers but a BAD example of a president of basketball of operation why? when lakers struggle last year he quit he disappears.
Magic’s just desperate for attention.
Whitlock you're right
Why does Wiley never make sense.He talking to the average sports fans like they went to Harvard and I think he doesn't even know what he flapping his gumbs about 👎👎👎
Marcellus "debate champion" Wiley
I think Magic Johnson did a lot of damage to the Lakers last year. And if hes going to sit herr and try and tale some credit for this teams success hes on drugs.
LMAOOOOO I just commented that magic was smoking something cause it's like wtf is on his mind
Wiley is crazy. He literally made the case against magic with the hot chick story. He's one step shy of iron mike with that vocab over there.
He gets credit for LeBron, but that’s about it. Plus he deserted LeBron
He didn’t get LeBron. LeBron was going the Lakers anyway.
Lebron was always coming to the Lakers. Please tell me what Magic personally did specific to a talent of his that other execs lack that landed Lebron and or Davis. From his businesses to the Lakers, Magic is a front man, a mascot with others behind him. That man has never uttered a. Intelligent sentence that didn't have anything to do with playing basketball
He deserves some credit but you dont see Mark Jackson saying he made the Warriors win the chips
You would’ve thought the lakers already won the chip
Magic gets credit for helping bring LeBron and that’s it. Pelinka built this current roster. Magic gonna also take credit for drafting Lonzo?
Technically without those Pieces Magic Drafted... they wouldn’t have AD right now... 🤔🤔
Magic was undermined......
Magic wants to take credit for Lebron coming to the Lakers ,but didn't talk to Lebron before or after he quit the Lakers....... Nah Magic I cant give you this one . Marcellus ,but Mark Jackson isn't singing praises ...that's the point
Wiley talks in circles he is no better than half the fools at espn
He’s an idiot
I guess he is right,if it wasn't for Magic we might have Kawai too lol.
Really grown men arguing over credit
Magic is perfect in his own mind
Marcellus... you been in LA this whole time. If it wasn’t for LeBron... this team would be dead. Magic isn’t why LeBron showed up
Baati Nagawo Lebron literally said magic is the reason why he came to La
@@allabouttheu2182 with or without magic, Lebron is going to sign with the lakers. He gave credit to magic as a publicity stunt
I honestly think lebron would have came if magic wasn’t there.i can’t picture lebron playing for jim buss.
LeBron was always coming to LA
Magic was my childhood idol and the reason I became a Laker fan. However, his bail out on the organization, the fans and the team in a critical time was the last thing I could imagine from him and i can no longer hold him in the same regard. He should shut his trap, hope we win the and that in time we can tolerate his face at the Staples Center.
WhOO! They said,"Mark Jackson." Now if HE were to take credit for the Warriors, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Magic likes attention and can't keep it QUIET. That's one of the reasons Kawhi didn't go there.
Magic Definitely deserves credit, the plan was always to pair LeBron with another (if not multiple) superstars. He came on first take and said that he knew that the Lakers were gonna still get AD and also said that despite he and Pelinkas differences, the Lakers organization need to get behind him now that he is gone. Magic only spoke facts and people just getting in there feelings.
I'm a diehard LAKERS fan born and raised but Magic didn't bring Green, Bradley, Cooks, and the rest of the roster Palinka did you left bruh when the franchise was at his lowest.
i see Marcellus ''Bull S**t'' wiley, i always skip his part, for my own sanity.
Me too!
I'll start with you Marcellus, is the sky blue? Nawt at allllll big dawg. It's good to pump your chest and yell look at me.
Lebron went to Lakers cause he wanted to be a Laker not cause he wanted to be under Magic’s thumb.
Magic did have the same AD trade on the table. I don't know if Lebron comes to LA without speaking to Magic. He was the only reason to come besides the weather. It sure wasn't the roster or Pelinka.
LG3 his company Springhill Entertainment has 10 projects in the works. Some might consider his off court business a reason to consider proximity to Hollywood as well as Magic.
Wiley gave some of the worst examples with Dungy and Jackson. That Bucs team was Dungys and if Dungy were to admit that, I would 100% agree with him. Mark Jackson wasn’t the GM of the warriors, yes he helped with their development, but in the end it was Kerrs system that got them over the top.
I gotta give it to Wiley. His takes are so ridiculously bad but his Ivy League education makes his bad takes sound so brilliant. The fact is, for one, this is totally beneath Magic to say this. Two, we're only 30 games in. Not even half way through the season. The Lakers could fall off completely during the season. All it takes is one bad injury to AD or LBJ. Will Magic take the credit then?
Lol. Bad takes with an Ivy League edu.?
Somebody on the show gotta say bs or it’s 3 dudes agreeing with each other saying the same thing, DEBATE SHOW
@@jamesonfitsimons5988 But at that point, the show isn't authentic then. It's just another First Take. 2 of these debate shows are enough then
Agree 100% Wiley takes are plain af and never goes against the grain
Magic deserves some credit. He brought LeBron. Cleared cap space. Accumulated enough talent to use as trade bait for AD. But it isn't a good look for him to make that point.
Magic just hit ROCK BOTTOM on my list...
Sorry Wiley, you're wrong on this one
Even IF magic deserves all the credit its STILL a terrible look after how he left
Marcellus Wiley is the worst
U don't understand how basketball works brotha
@@darylpresley3577 obviously u dont understsnd how basketball works ... every big time player ends up on the Lakers numbnuts ... even before Magic
Magic Johnson JUST CANT STOP TALKING....
Jennie Buss& the Los Angeles LAKERS gets ALL THE CREDIT 💯💯💯
Even if he quit he still got them in position this season to win y'all obviously don't know what y'all talking about
When magic stepped down the media killed the Lakers and seen them as a dysfunctional dumpster fire. How did magic help? If any credit is to be given it should be for Rob & Jeannie for keeping their cool and making all the right moves since then.
I’m probably in the minority but I believe magic deserves credit for leaving the lakers and letting the team move on.. when you leave when the team needs you most does not equate to you getting the credit... deserves no credit for this success and will not get any either from real fans...
Magic deserves some credit because he is the one who convince Lebron to come to the Lakers. Everything good that has happened for this franchise in the past two years has resulted from that one accusation.
Jason makes more sense
On point Wiley 👍
Are we supposed to ignore him drafting Lonzo over Jason Tatum? AD came after magic left so what is he smoking?
Magic is a troll.
Magic is literally soiling his legacy as a Lakers legend. First he jumps ship at the first sign of disapproval & now he wants credit for their success? The same success he chose to leave? He single handedly was the sole reason why Kawhi didn’t come to the Lakers. And he wants CREDIT for WHAT?!? All the players he selected are now playing for the Pelicans or the Clippers. He was WRONG about Lonzo Ball. All the credit goes to ROB PELINKA. And at the least, Jeanie Buss. Not Magic “no balls” Johnson smh 🤦🏽♂️
your statement is only true to a mind steeped in insecurity and absent of facts.
Dr. Alexander Hamilton Whatever you say, kid.
Great segment guys....you can easily be swayed either way!
Rick and Jason speak facts. Wiley’s words are politically correct.
I don't really like Ric but his takes here are all on point, let's wait things out no one is crowned champion or dynasty in December
At the end of day he's 💯% right. The bottom line is this...he was the one that got LeBron to come to L.A. If he didn't land LeBron, they would have never had their franchise player... Anthony Davis. The only mistakes he made was getting rid of Lou Williams and Brook Lopez. BTW, does Whitlock have on a toupee?
Forget Jeanie And Rob They Conspried Against Him... They never did not want him there nor did they want him to run the franchise... He is telling the truth they didn't want to get the power then he left...
Rick ya on point. ...
without LJ you would have nothing to talk about he's the engine
Lmao 😂🤣 😭 no credit. How you going to leave to job and say it's my doing they so good. He didn't traded for AD or any other free agency currently in the team. Everyone he drafted is gone except for Kuzma
Magic is a clout chaser.
Lost Lou Williams nuff said
Lbj went there because of him nuff said
Magic deserve credit LeBron will not be there if it wasn’t for Magic point blank
Please. I could have signed Labron to come to the Los Angeles and the Lakers. That's where he WANTED to go. I give Magic credit for picking and signing Lonzo Ball, number 1.
No Magic.. No Bron... No AD.. Duh
You saw what the Lakers were with Bron with that roster around him. Palenka completely reshaped that roster and brought in proven players. Magic deserves credit for bron but then blame for all the poor picks and trades he made. Still a net negative
Why are we gloating about how a superstar player didn’t talk their coach for the first 6 weeks?
Magic brought that negative energy back and got LeBron injured. He gets full blame
Why not just take the Jerry West and avoid credit and move on, geez he is acting like he needs another GM job come on he is Magic Johnson for christ sakes!!
C'mon Uncle Tom defend the indefensible, we're betting on you, Marcellus !
No magic No LeBron
No LeBron No AD SIMPLE
Ronnie Alston Are you dumb? Lebron’s business interests took him to a large market in LA.
No magic
No LEBRON
No LEBRON
No AD
No AD
No 24-4 RECORD
Hammock giving LBJ credit.
Ric needs to be a permanent host on this show.
HIGHly Recommended anyone but Marcellus
The lakers are beating sub 500 teams, pump the brakes guys. Against the better teams, check that record, please.
He got blame when things looked bad so he gets a little credit when they’re going good.
Lebron would've joined the Lakers if OJ was the GM
And All These Fake Laker Fans We know the Lakers Were Done Before Magic Came... Be Honest...