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History Summarized: Pope Fights 2 - The Reformation
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Since you mentioned Dante, Red did analysis videos on the Divine Comedy. Also, Red and Blue once did a hilarious one related to those called "College and Hell, What's the Difference" or something like that, where they consigned various types of college students to various rings of Hell complete with ironic punishments. That one still gets a laugh out of me all these years later.
DEFINITELY need to check that out after finishing up the pope fights. 😁
@@Airier They're good videos. The College Hell one is just hilarious, and the Divine Comedy analysis is actually three videos (one each for Inferno, Purgatorio, and Paradisio). And, if you're into what Red refers to as Biblical Fan Fiction, she's also got a very good analysis of Paradise Lost.
But all their stuff is good, so whatever you watch next, enjoy! 😀
Blue's also done a History Makers video on the man Dante himself. His Machiavelli one is also a must see and what first drew me into OSP.
@@jeremygilbert7989 Oh, yeah, Blue's videos are always fun and informative, but I think my favorite of his about a single individual has got to be his video on Alcibiades. It just feels like a History Hijinx vid, except the whole thing is about one guy 😂
@@Katherine_The_Okay Of course you got seduced by Alcibiades, we've all been seduced by Alcibiades and I mean, who can blame you? He's friggin' Alcibiades!
3:28 Fun Fact: Blue first got into history after playing Assassin's Creed and then reading about the real lives of the people in the game. He has talked about it multiple times if you want to look it up.
Oh yeah, I remember he specifically mentioned being super confused by Machiavelli's non-Prince writing lmao
Just goes to show that the AC games did some things ABSOLUTELY right in the way they included actual history into their fictional universe, because really: It makes you really curious and hungry for more knowledge.
Fun fact: Blue got his love for history through Assassin's Creed. At one point he was in Florence and he used the AC2 map to roughly navigate from where he and a friend had walked away from the group to where they were supposed to be.
Early AC games were really solid.
@@CommissarMitchyes. Yes they were....
Prussia technically existed as a state of the German Empire until the end of ww1, but as an actual independent nation, it stopped existing in the North German Federation (Later Germany) was founded in the mid 1800s
That is true for the Kingdom of Prussia but the Free State of Prussia continued as a subdivision of the Weimar Republic as well as technically the 3rd Reich. And was only completely dissolved/abolished after WW2.
Saying it stopped existing as an independent nation is kinda like saying England stopped existing as an independent state bc it conquered its way into becoming the British Empire...
Kaiser Wilhelm was the King of Prussia for 6 years before North German Confederation was a thing, and a decade before Prussia unified Germany into one state.
@@edim108 England did stop existing as an *independent* state after the Act of Union.
After that it continued being a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain (and (Northern) Ireland) of course but it was certainly no longer an independent nation. Same is true for Prussia as well. Or for Texas/Vermont which are no longer independent republics but continue as states of the USA.
@@gokbay3057 With Texas it's a bit different than England or Prussia.
Texas was inducted (absorbed) into an already existing state entity. Acts of union united kingdoms of England and Scotland into a single state that was established with it, not annexed Scotland into England (at least de jure)
@@edim108 Well, while Prussia annexed many smaller German states in the wars with Austria in 1860s and while it was certainly by far the largest and strongest of German states within the North German Confederation/German Empire/Weimar Republic the aforementioned states were also formed new rather than simply annexing the lesser member states into Prussia. There were many other states within Germany. No matter how dominant Prussia was via the Imperial status of its King or via composing the majority of the German land and population by itself it didn't change the fact that both the North German Confederation and the German Empire that followed it were newly established states of which Prussia might have been the leading member but it was not an annexation by Prussia. The other German states continued existing, albeit no longer independent (Indeed Bavaria had much autonomy, with its army organised separately from the rest of the German Army even as the militaries of the other states were effectively absorbed by the Prussian military).
It is true that Bavaria, for example, would be a much closer example to Texas compared to Prussia. But the point is that no matter how dominant Prussia and England were in their new unions they had stopped existing as independent states just as much as Texas and Bavaria had.
Not Blue, but with the amount you talk about tropes in some of your reactions and love of analysis I think you’d really enjoy Red’s trope talk series! She picks a specific writing trope and dissects it’s history, meaning, uses in storytelling, and the like!!
Trope talks are excellent, thought I do sometimes have disagreements with some of them.
3:32 Blue loves how historically accurate a lot of creed maps are, he's done virtual tours using them.
Thanks for this reaction.
While I also love the way in which light and movement can be conveyed with abstract brush strokes in Impressionist art, I’ve discovered that there’s more irreverent meme-type art in the realistic style than you’d expect. People are the same even when they’re very different.
Graffiti in Pompeii also shows this
So Prussia emerged, after the Teutonic Order was subjugated by the PLC during Zygmunt the Old's reign. They became the Prussian State, which was a vassal of The Commonwealth. Then during the Swedish deluge, Prussia offered help in exchange for independence and PLC had to accept. So later they got a personal union with Brandenburg and the rest is history.
15:14 You will enjoy their Detail Diatribes. They are long videos but they are their joint videos discussing a topic in... detail.
17:39 Sabaton actually has a song about this, called "The Last Stand".
Red has a series of videos where she summarizes the various classics. They're all funny, when she gets to Paradise Lost, it was really funny.
Artists weren't punished for doing non-religious work. They just didn't do art for art's sake. They painted whatever the person PAYING for art wanted. And the Church was often the one paying for it so lots of religious art. Nobles and royalty paid for plenty of non-religious art. Painted wall screens were a common cheaper alternative to tapestry and those again had anything that the family wanted painted on them.
The opening of this video is a classic example of the phrase.
"All that I know is that I know nothing"
Ironically, Blue just did a video about Socrates and Plato.
If you want a funny video with both Red and Blue I highly recommend their vid on categorizing college things into the circles of hell as written by Dante
Your geek out is entirely justified and matches mine when I first discovered the channel. Red's Shakespeare Summarized is good and is the earliest series to go up on the channel. If you want a glimpse into early OSP then that's your best window. From there she moves into summarizing Classical Literature and starts bringing Blue in to do history stuff. All of his early history vids have since been moved into the Bad History playlist by Blue because he is no longer satisfied with the level of research that went into them. Sadly, this includes his trilogy on the Abrahamic Religions. ...If you can't tell I am suggesting a chronological approach to their content so you can appreciate the evolution of their respective styles. ...Also they have a podcast that you can binge...and Let's Plays that consist of at least 15% tech issues and arguing with OBS and the remaining percentage being gameplay plus Red and Blue going on weird tangents that have nothing to do with the actual game. Shadow of the Colossus is probably my favorite one of this followed by Journey....because Red starts singing Journey at the end of the game and sounds like a robot because Discord wouldn't work so she had to participate over an I-phone call. We call it Robo-Red. It is glorious.
and of course there's Red's charity run of Breath of the Wild; beautiful.
Blue covers Ireland vs England in his video on either Ireland or England, I can't remember exactly which one. Each of the British countries got their own video, and then there was one on the UK. Red even touches on (in a blink-and-you-miss-it kind of way) Ireland's troubles with England when she covered the Book of Invasions.
About your rant about "modern sculptures", i feel like i have to add, a very big reason why we don't get these insanely beautiful statues nowadays, and instead get a lot of very odd and provocative scultures instead, is not because people are lazy or necessarily pretentious, but because it is unbelievably expensive to make marble statues nowadays and artists were fed up having to spend insane amounts of money to have their art acknowledged, so conceptual art, dadaism and other such styles become more popular over time as a result. I will also add, that historically, most of these gorgeous marble statues were only ever made because of insanely rich people comissioning artists to make them... and nowadays rich people just buy yacht's instead, so there is a lot less money in the sculpture-making industry for these sorts of things, so we instead get sculptures made from garbbage (which can still be very cool sometimes, but you gotta look hard for it, since a lot of the more surreal art industry is definitely over-saturated).
(Sorry, i felt like i had to say this, since i have heard so many people bemoaning modern art for "not being like the classics", and it is kind of a pet peeve of mine... art changes over time, both the resources available and the people willing to pay for art influence the art industry... that is just how it goes and how it has always been. Its not that artists are bad, lazy or anything like that, the industry just rewards low effort art for low prices nowadays).
Also also it should be noted that the marble statues were painted like hell
I’d add that the industry also rewards reproducibility, something that older artists also didn’t have to worry about
26:26 I think that's an example of syncretism, where the religious beliefs of one culture is rewritten and absorbed into another. In Christianity's case, Pagan Gods that stuck around either got recast as saints or rewritten to be just another name for a religious figure like the Virgin Mary.
Red talks about syncretism in her videos on Aphrodite and Hermes. And about how Christianisation rewrites Pagan religion in her "Book of Invasions" video and her video on Loki.
One doing analysis and the other essentially providing memes, that would be the Detail Diatribes. Trust me.
If you want longer discussions with a lot of memes, the detailed diatrades are for you.
oh yeah; do the one on multiverses, it's terrific.
The one on Superman is also very interesting.
Martin Luthor Was a mad man and i love him
Pretty sure Blue got into history because of Assassin's creed so your in good company.
I really recommend Red’s “Trope Talks”! I genuinely think you’d enjoy them a lot.
There is a third pope fight, and much much more, please keep watching.
When you said ‘how the hell did humanity survive’ you might have realised this but just in case, that 75% was the population of Rome not of the human species. The human population in the 1500s is estimated at aprox half a billion, with the european population being about 90 million by 1500.
I would recommend the Blues History Makers videos. It give great context to why people wrote history the way they did.
14:15 slight mix up on the timeline there, the divorce happened *before* the beheading.
As the song goes: divorce, beheaded and died, divorce, beheaded, survived!.
15:01 That's just Red's entire existance
13:45 pre-Protestantism (East) Prussia was ruled by the Teutonic Order (the badass, German version of the Templars and Hospitalliers/Knights of Malta). The Highmaster of the order became Protestant and declared himself the Duke of Prussia.
He was of the House of Hohenzollern, which ruled several states in Germany, most importantly the Electorate of Brandenburg.
Later Brandenburg and Prussia had a personal union, which evolved into the Kingdom of Prussia, which unified Germany and formed the German Empire in 1871.
1:59 The channel useful charts has a great series explaining the branching out of Christianity with a much nore comprehensive chart
In Sweden, the main reason for the reformation was the war between Sweden and Denmark, which was the end of the Kalmar Union. Because, since Gustav I Vasa's Sweden was close to bankruptcy due the war against Christian II, the king decided to use Protestantism to take the church under the control of the crown and loot the property of the church in order to finance the reconstruction of Sweden. In Finland, it only meant the spread of Finnish-language literature, because Vasa sent Finnish priests to Wittenberg University as Luther's students and when they returned home they wanted to bring literature in the language of the peasants and the folk and teach them to read.
14:28 He wasn't a terrible monarch, just an absolute garbage can of a person. As a ruler, a statesman, a person in charge of the politics of the country, he was really quite good.
Red & Blue have also done a Detail Diatribe (longer form videos that generally go hella into the weeds) on Assassin's Creed
Blue's actually done a few videos on the accuracy of a couple Assassin's Creed games.
blue also did a whole video on Henry the 8th going into more detail
21:35 bear in mind that one big reason wealthy patrons have invested so much into art is as a form of tax evasion. That’s harder to get away with now and that was the impetus for crypto becoming common knowledge
a lot of of "modern art" is not graft... its tax evasion
You're quite mistaken about Henry VIII. He had 6 wives, of which the 1st, 3rd, and 4th he divorced without incident, and apparently he didn't even try to sleep with his 4th wife before he decided he wanted to get remarried again. As for the 2nd and 5th? They were accused of treason, infidelity, and adultery, mostly by those among Henry's court who took exception to his taste in women, and the 5th confessed that she had been pressed into an affair with one man before being formally married, and he promptly turned around and said that she had been having an affair during the marriage with another man and he'd been covering for them. And accounts taken at the time are rather insistent that Henry was a loving and doting husband that generally spoiled his wives and liked intellectual women with opinions, even if they conflicted with his own, as was the case with his 2nd and 6th wives.
The 3rd wife died soon after giving birth to his only son who was not born out of wedlock. So did not divorce her, she (Jane Seymour) just died.
@@jkosch My memory must be going...
21:30 It's actually to launder money. Gold can lose value when finding more. But a piece of art? It never loses its value and you don't have to pay taxes.
That's why there's so much money there. And also because so many mafia and drug bosses have so much art in their homes.
Red's tripple Video on Dantes Inferno would be a good Continuation (and "College, Hell, what's the Diffirenz?")
18:00 ...We're very stubborn.
So many options, though Red's Trope Talks are a freaking amazing look at the various building blocks of storytelling.
I'd recommend also checking out Extra History's Early Christian Schisms.
Osp has a Henry the VIII video.
You can go watch some miscellaneous myths from Red. Especially greek ones like Hades and Persephone or Dionysius ones. I think you'll like them
17:56 They screwed like rabbits.
A surprised to be sure but not an unwelcomed one.
The Zwingli version that later became the amish died out in Switzerland because Calvins ideas got more traction but at least around Zürich (were Zwingli was from) his translation of the bible is still fairly popular. At least we call it a Zwingli-bible not sure if the translation has been changed much or not.
My knowledge on this is fairly basic since I'm an Atheist and my parents never were very religious themselves.
13:40 I know I'm late, but whatever. Prussia technically started in 1225 when Konrad Mazowiecki brought Teutonic Order to deal with pagan Prussians (no relation to prussia other than region and name). Teutonic Order created a State there that was in 1525 renamed to duchy of Prussia
I cannot look at the Vatican symbol without thinking of Kingdom Hearts. Not just because of the two crossing keys resembling a legendary weapon, but the fact it’s a holy order fighting itself. 😂
The Netherlands were controlled by Spain. Emperor Charles V of Spain inhereted them from his father's side of the family. His grandmother, Mary of Burgundy, was the only heir to what is now Belgium and the Netherlands. She married Maximilian, the Holy Roman Emperor, who was a Habsburg. So everything went to Philip the Handsome and after that to Charles V.
Baby booms we survived through baby booms and not contraceptives
I thought that you were watching star wars vs warhammer 40K today. Though this is also great.
Nah, put that out a bit early yesterday. I rearranged my schedule a bit for the new murder drones episode later today.
People could read, they just couldn't read latin. That is why Martin Luther translated the bible into German, so that the German population could red it. Shadiversity also have a rather long video on peasonts ability to read
Can you do Trope Talks? The pure evil villains one is especially good.
You might like the Channel Useful charts. He has just finished a big series on the history of the Christian faith and its denominations.
Trope talk is fun
yeah spain owned the netherlands for about 150 years under the hapsburgs (cause yeah those hapsburgs get around)
Prussia is quite literally what became current day Germany it didn't vanished it just consolidated all of the german city states into what became known as Germany today :D
Henry 8th wife count: divorced beheaded and died. divorced beheaded, survived
If you want both of them with facts and memes, look no further than the "Detail diatribe". It's usually one of them schooling the other about a topic they know little about and going full nerd. Usually in the time frame of 30min+.
on note : READ PEOPLE REEAD
Indulgences were more like a Fortnite battle pass for catholics than a lootbox
More myscellenious myths?
We need more pope fight reactions. Do the next!!!
It is your own fault. I know people have been telling you to watch them for nearly two years now.
By the way this is the video that I point to whenever someone suggests that the United states should become a relative religion country! It's either that or else my standard meme of here are two churches they practice the exact same religion and both of them have a sign that points directly to the other one saying go to that one and you goes to hell. Strangely I should have had a camera that day and just taken that picture and used that sign for all eternity yes that was real if I had 1/4 for every time that I saw two things that were real literal happening in my world that should not happen by just sure logic I would own Disney now. What you thought I was gonna say twice listen to the whole Phineas and Ferb joke that would actually imply it only happened twice! So many times has this happened to me of me encountering a real life meme and not taking a picture for it.
hey airer new murder drones dropped.
History Hijinks and the History Maker Series are probably good Content to share from Blues side, while History Summsrized is something I recommend you checking out on your own cause that stuff is dense.
Regarding Red's content.... Honestly pick whatevs. Her work is brilliant and usually doesn't rely on consistent theming. So you can basically start AND finish wherever.
Though there are a couple multi-parter. You might wanna watch those in order.
That Map of the HRE isnt even detailed enough. No imagine that each of these states has their own Border Control.
fighting popes lets gooo
12:40 Not to be the "well ackshully" guy, but this is wrong. Secular art was actually pretty common in the medieval period, it just never had the budget that religious art did. Like, we're talking about gigantic complex masses versus bards and troubadours who sang songs they wrote with a couple musicians backing them up.
If you want to be even more confused, UsefulCharts has a series on Christian denominations. The last episode will come out on 23 June.
Sounds like you’re a little mixed on what happened to which of Henry VIII’s wives, remember, it’s
Divorced Beheaded died, divorced Beheaded survived
watch oversimplified your in for a treat!
Look at it this way: without shit, we wouldn’t have wine. I see it as the price to pay for broadening the horizons for new kinds of beauty as we also discover new kinds of ugliness. Ignoring the gross is only a wilful blindness.
New episode of murder drones
Your talk about modern sculptures reminded me of "The worst artist in history" video lol.
by Solar Sands?
@kacperkonieczny7333 no, it was by Polyblank
My favorite "modern art" story was when a meusum paid a guy like, a million bucks for a recreation of one of his older pieces, and they got a blank canvas entitled "I took the money and ran"
@@RipOffProductionsLLC lmao
hey Airier if you want more history stuff and enlightenment topic stuff, i got a video for you, that's also about a video game as well.
Red Dead Redemption 2: Was Dutch right? (sorta) by DJPeachCobbler ,consider reacting to that, or don't, i ain't yer God, but if you do, just consider it, i'd appreciate that.
heck, you can see radical interpretations of info when playing D&D. Interpretation bias is strong.
You badmouthing Artemisia Gentileschi?
he's just not into that style