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Unfortunately capitalism isn't great at long term planning. Farms take capital to set up and it's more profitable to exhaust a resource, make a killing as it becomes rare, then move onto the next thing.
With chainsaw so mighty! The tree fell down so brightly! It’s suffering has ended It’s death no longer suspended The trees cried out free! Thank god no more jimmy!
Going back to the original story, I think Seuss was trying to make a separate point about responsibility and the like, through the modus of trees, not one particularly about capitalism, and environmentalism. So an obvious solution like what logging companies do irl would've messed with the intended message. But I agree, if environmentalism was the true aim, it should have brought up points like that. Although they do mention in the cartoon how long it takes to grow truffula trees. 10 months just to germinate, and many many years after that just to grow a bit, so creating massive orchards would've taken a long time especially with how quickly thneed corp. expanded from nothing.
@@robertwagonschutz777 true, though there are many instances of capitalist prefering short term profits to mid and long term profitability. It's more of a metaphor.
The Supreme Court approved of something called citizens united which recognizes corporations as human beings, thus allowing them to donate as much money as they want to politicians. So that line about corporations being people hits really hard 😢
Citizens united determined that political donations were a form of speech. The idea is that since verbal support of something is protected by the First Amendment, monetary support is also protected. So long as the donors do not conspire with the campaign, they can donate as much as they like through PACs and SuperPACs because the court views their money as a form of speech
I think the idea is that companies are allowed to fund adds in support of political campaigns as much as they please as long as they don't cooperate with the campaign itself, or at least as long as cooperation can't be proved.
Kid: Wait, wait, cant you make a national park and have thousands of tourists spent their money- Lorax: Now Now, stop right at money, you just made me thousands of dollars richer.
@@TheReasonableSkepticist no he's not really he's not even a smart business man, if he was he would of saved a good portion of the trees so they could make more trees etc.
FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TREES WORK... Yes, trees can grow back, but it takes decades for them to do so. Not to mention the graphic change in enviorment their absence can leave.
DisneyKidsFOREVER and they do keep a local environment free of massive runoff, and absorb pollution. But a majority of our O2 comes from good ol' algae! And there isn't a regulation on that (I mean, most of it is out of our way so we don't touch it, but still) I find that clip oddly concerning as a conservative
It really depends on the type of tree, some only take a year or two to grow. Lumber and paper industries have actually created more forest then they've destroyed by using trees that grow quickly. The real problem is when big companies clear out already established forest to make room for factories or plantations.
+HunterTheCyborg// HunterHTC I've recently heard of this new house building alternative to wood called stone! I guess it's one of the trends those weird hipster stoneage kids like to follow. But to be honest, it's too futuristic for my taste
Replacing a forest with different species of growth affects the ecology of the local area. Different animals are bound to spring up with a new systemic homeostasis~
@@CyanWatercress4 Maybe on a world wide stage since the government heavily subsidies the production of processes food and bio fuels resulting in the destruction of the rainforest for example but not in the developed world such as the US or Europe. Planting a tree costs a fraction of a fraction of what they make as a profit out of the wood, replanting results in a huge long-term profit and it would be financially brain dead to not do it - which is why, like I said, the wood industry plants the mist trees and that is a fact. The wood industry does basically the same as the average farmer, planting and harvesting. More than half the forest land in the U.S is owned and managed by about 11 million private forest owners. Private forest lands provided 89% of the domestically produced wood and paper products in 2017. The income landowners receive for trees grown on their land encourages them to maintain, sustainably manage and renew this valuable resource. At the same time the net forest area in the U.S. has been stable since the early 1900s and increased by about 2% from 752 million to 765 million acres between 2007 and 2017. Net volume of growing stock increased by more than 5% over the same period.
Honestly I don't understand how people can fall perfectly into the outline of either party. Conservatism makes sense on some issues. Liberalism makes sense on some issues. If we would agree to take the best of each party, we could do truly great things.
Jim Bob Compromise is only attainable when the two parties either want the same thing, or have more in common than they don't. With American Politics, this is NOT the case.
liberalism and conservatism are only two faces of the same system. both act within the framework of capitalism and both are comparatively right wing if you compare it to other political positions (ie reformism/social democracy or various versions of socialism): in the 30s both viewpoints showed themselves as more willing to side with fascism in europe than with the left (notably in spain). so yes there's plenty of room for compromises between the two, but to say that's because they both have good ideas is where I have to depart with you.
+Jim Bob Spot on, couldn't agree more! Too bad there's no third party to highlight this problem. - I visualize someone saying, "hey, do you like blue or red?" They both have their ups and downs. It's hard to make a defining choice over who the lesser of two evils is. Voting in this system is fucked, there seems to be no purpose. - Why not implement a system where you show up, they give you a sheet, it has the top 30 important issues. You then check either "yes", "no", or "abstain" on each topic from top to bottom. Then you slide it into a ballot box. - I just hate this whole "he said this" "Oh yeah? Well HE said this!" The back and forth of politics is just sad, it's hard to get into. I have a feeling most people vote because they feel very strongly on one or two subjects and that makes them "left" or "right". Or there are others who don't want to let their family down so they just go with the flow. And finally, there are those who abstain from voting all together.
I didn't know what politics were when I first watched this as a kid I just thought this was funny "ha ha Lorax is evil now!" Crazy to see how batshit crazy politics have gotten
Oh God ! Was the prophecy true? Has the web revealed the one chosen? Hiding I have to because in time a few Mercy won't shows for the children's man! (Sorry for bad english)
It sorta would, since they could reuse area rather then go on to other areas. It could atleast cover some demand, slowing the damage caused. So while not entirely solved, it bides more time.
Lorax grew up, went to Harvard Business School, graduated with honors, started up Stratton Oakmont with The Wolf of Wall Street, got rich, ran for Senate and now he's here. I don't know if I'm proud.
I'm just a random commenter and i say... Canada makes a nice bit of money, eh? That's beceause they cut trees, but now you must ask: Why are there so many trees there, if they all get the axe? Well my friend, that's to do with legislations. They benefit the forest, and also corporations. For every tree cut, two more are planted. That's to make sure the forests don't get blanted. And then we see something very nice. They managed to keep forests healthy, despite all the ice. Truly, it is possible now. To make money and still say "wow". You see my friends, corporations aren't crazy. It's the government that's sometimes a bit lazy. I salute you now, as i am out of rhymes. And whatever you do, remember to look back at the old times.
deadass not how it happens irl. supplies are contracted out, and the suppliers are the ones who replenish things, we dont exactly clear cut forests and leave nothing behind in forestry. and it's kinda a dumb idea that doesnt apply to life that capitalism, the free market which regulates itself to keep going would cause a supply shortage where it would stop total production of basic supplies.
@@milkchugger17ACTUALLY,you can't tell wich one is right because in large part is determined by your personality wich means that sometimes the liberal is right and sometime the conservatives are correct. That's why we need both of them to have a political discussion so that our soceity is functioning
@@misterling645 Lol. Conservatives already proved themselves as Trump enablers and have officially sold their soul to the devil. Only the Lincoln project has redeemed themselves.
He also ran in 2012, but didn't get far. He started the Birther Movement (the people who claimed Obama wasn't born in America) and then he dropped out before the nominations.
Cardi Jey ??? Your point is... what exactly? Sure they cut down football fields. Then they promptly plant new trees right where they cut. Kind of like a farmer. A farmer harvests his corn, but he knows he'll run out, so once the harvest is over, he plants more corn for next year.
oh nono, here in the us, or in europe, that is the case. Our wood is from preserved areas where they keep a balance, but if it comes to wood from asia, africa and south america, they chop everything down without regrets and vision for the future. That's why i said rainforest. But we are not totally innocent, we buy that stuff.
Cardi Jey Ah. It seems like a pretty bad business plan from those companies then. They'll run out of both product and the ability to plant more. Are you sure that none of them are doing that over there? I really thought I saw something about one of the bigger, US logging companies replanting even in the rain forests.
Logging Regulations: Replant for every chopped,cutted,and bulldozed trees. No burning the trees. Dynamite needs to be handled carefully. Be fair to the competitions. No Pollution. No Littering.
You know the biggest threat to trees aren't loggers right? With loggers, they plant more trees to replace what they took, or use paper farms, or in easier terms have farmers grow trees in order to sell it for paper. Now the real threat would be farming actually, mostly for raising domestic animals.
YESSSS!!!! You are so right!!!! Animal agriculture (meat, dairy, egg, etc. Industries) contribute to 91% of Amazon rainforest destruction. Animal agriculture also contributes to 51% of all greenhouse gas emissions. All transportions (cars, airplanes, trains, etc) only contribute 13%.
are you sure? I dont know if they pushed it or not, or even if a regulation even exists. but I know the trees cut down now are 3rd and even 4th growth. and I cant imagine a regulation being passed for logging 150 years ago
because they took all the trees, and put them in a tree museum. And people had to pay a dollar and a half to see them. they took all the trees and put in a parking lot... lol.
The biggest threat to trees is fire, and big logging companies are among the biggest contributors to fire danger, especially in old-growth forest. This is true in the U.S. anyway.
jwan besande good luck on your journey young comment, one day you will be needed, keep in earshot non-political comment you will be called upon and on that day you will transcend all expectations
If the Lorax were actually a conservative, he would invest his profits in planting more Truffela Trees, and then everyone could be rich AND have nature.
***** First of all, your reply has nothing to do with my comment, but I'll answer anyway. The "no blacks allowed" thing was fifty years ago, and I don't even know what you're saying in the rest of the comment.
***** Yeah, but the beauty of capitalism is that if someone doesn't want to be an employee, they can start their own company. Plus, the alternatives to capitalism suck, so...
***** Immoral actions of a few don't discredit the system, we have laws against monopolies, and it's a doctor's choice what he does and doesn't recommend. Businesses should have the right to deny service based on ANY reason, including race. You don't have the right to anyone's service.
I think its funny How they used the term conservative to describe someone who wanted to change something and not conserve the forest. It seems pretty liberal to me.
I mean, capitalism does profit off the destruction of the environment, whilst socialism will maintain trees for the good of all. Capitalism prefers profit; socialism good for all. Social Democracy may try to combine both, but eco-socialism is the only way to save the environment. There's no surprise to be found here.
Okay, but you do realize "the economy" doesn't just mean the stock market and the rich getting richer and all... It's also everyone's jobs, (including the middle and lower classes) and it's having enough quality goods and services for everyone to live.
Yeah well what's the point of living when Earth looks like planet Mars? Idk what kind of lifestyle you live and what you value. It's foolish to place such values on what you said when there will come a day that there's no resources left for these greedy people to pillage and then there will REALLY be no jobs left.
@@russelstrawmire9817 I know. I didn't say we shouldn't stop destroying planet or anything. I'm just saying if somebody expresses concern about "the economy" they're talking about something important and you shouldn't dismiss them as just a greedy monopolist.
That is pretty much what happen in I think Zimbabwe, there is a massive hole in the landscape because Diamond mining was unregulated and the guy who ran the operation was a British guy who only cared about making money having no care for the environment or the people that lived there.
+Identity is Fuckingunknownbitch trump is the fakest capitalist to walk the earth hes a wolf who say what people want to hear and right now thats bold kickass stuff, but he wont do shit
Republicans are red, Democrats are blue, and neither of them give a shit about you. I'm not picking sides. Fuck narrow minded political parties. I'm staying independent, thank you very much.
Even George Washington said that political parties were a bad idea. He said they would create a divisive environment in which people could just flock to one side or the other instead of formulating their own deductions. And, that's exactly what has happened.
What the fuck is this? In Dr Seuss everything rhymes. Do it again and stop wasting my time. Rhyme your ass off and don't be lazy. Or I will turn you crazy.
This bullshit party system and this "pick a side" bs only causes hostility and leaves little to no room for compromise or understanding. Mark my words, in due time the country will end up with another civil war and end up as a divided shithole, oh wait, that's already happening.
VeRGoGaming 891 Nah, I'm pretty educated, that's why I know that Trump uses illegals to build his towers and plans on using them to build the wall (and making them pay for it).
Blurry Birb well at least he would be employing immigrants, unlike leftists who want them financially dependent on state welfare provided by tax payers money.
As hilarious as this is, and as much as I despise the lobbyists and bureaucrats that run this country, the video has the same flaw that the original story had. A smart business owner would have ensured the survival of the trees so that he would always have the resources to make more thneeds. It would have been in everyone's best interest to preserve them. Of course, that wasn't the main message of the story, so it's alright
Actually, businesses have an incentive to effectively rape the land because the cost of it is split evenly among everyone, so while it's huge in total, it's low for the corporation. Meanwhile the benefit of it is nothing for the people, but big for the corporation. So this destruction is worth it for the corporation but not for everyone in total.
@@mikeydaversa1760 A small family business would. But stock traders don't care about the long term. They want fast profits yesterday and once the resources are gone they have already liquidated and moved on. And big corporations just see value in scarcity, because if you control all that is left then you can put whatever price you want. Which is why you need incentives and regulations for small, sustainable business to thrive.
Kristian Jörgensen but if you just controlled the resource, like the kid controls the forest in the video, then you could ensure those fast profits far into the future and ride the train until JUST before the wheels fall off. That’s by far the most profitable plan
I've always wondered this, couldnt they have shaved the trees in lorax without cutting them down? The fabric or whatever they are supposed to be would have just grown back, cutting them down would have just destroyed profits, also technically some trees do die and should actually be chopped down to prevent forest fires, ironically, this is actually good for the environment
@@baronbrummbar8691 this is not explained,perhaps a fandom wiki suggest the wood is used as firewall.Also the problem is that the onceler cuts to many trees, theres a diference betwen choping down some trees and choping down the entire forest
Not one person thought to replant the trees after chopping them down. Logging companies aren't stupid, if a lack of trees in the future will destroy their business they'll plant more trees now.
+Zack Edwards Yeah, perhaps that is the definition of conservatism, but have you seen the politicians and office seekers nowadays who go under the label conservative?
***** Banana's are a natural mutation, and are wiped out easily. The banana that was commonly eaten from the 1920's to the 1950's was nearly driven to extinction because of lack of genetic variance, and the banana we eat today faces the same threat.
***** Not to be rude but the tragedy of commons is a story promoting private enterprise. Essentially, the tragedy comes from the fact that since no ONE person owned the land, the collective could not bother to maintain it's upkeep. Rather, they kept using it and using it until there was nothing left where as if it had been privately owned, the owner would have stepped in. It's a good lesson but not exactly applicable in this sense as private ownership and big business are now the cause for the tragedy. When everyone owns something, people may be less inclined to clean it up (much like your roommate(s) despite that everyone would benefit from clean dishes, vacuumed rugs, etc.). However, when it is privately owned for the sake of profit and nothing else, the owners may (as shown through experience) will only care about the profit here and now. It's not a collective issue but a greed issue. When is enough enough and what will we sacrifice for it. And that's all of us, even the majority who support these institutions for a few dollars more. But that leads us to low wages and the like which stem for the previous problem of big business who outsources. ...I did not mean for this post to be so long and....rude isn't the right word...preachy maybe? Sorry.
ThatOneAccount931 The tragedy of the commons happens under communism, however, there is a way to get all the benefits of communism and capitalism without the downfall of either. It's called co-operative enterprise. It's a business model where every worker of particular business enterprise shares ownership of said business. All the workers vote on their wages, and on how to run the business. All the money that in a private enterprise would become the private money of the Capitalist, now is the pooled money of that whole business. Instead of blindly obeying orders and competing with employees for promotions, everyone would be able to freely discuss and debate about how things should be run, and there would be a work environment of community and cooperation and autonomy. Co-operative enterprise would be able to be conscientious of externalities such as how the environment is being effected by their business practices because unlike in a competitive economy where you have to compete at all costs just to achieve bottom line profit needed to survive as a business, a co-operative enterprise cooperates with everyone, and therefore has time to step back and discuss and be conscious of externalities. And the tragedy of the commons is avoided with this model since free riders would be getting a share of money that could be spread among the rest of you, you would have an economic incentive to fire free riders, meaning people would have an incentive not to be free riders themselves. And unlike communism, co-operative enterprise still respects personal property, so you could wake up in your private home, put on your private clothes, eat some of your private food for breakfast and drink some of your coffee and if it helps you work smoke a bowl of some good sativa and then drive your private car to a workplace that you co-operatively own and run with all of your co-workers. And there are different models of co-op, different models work better for different businesses. Some are a direct democracy, some elect managers every so often in elections (and usually vote for them to have slightly higher pay as an economic incentive to do well), some elect work councils, whatever works.
***** I do not want to be rude or come across crass but you are wrong. I am a Political Science major and an Economics minor, the Tragedy of Commons stems from an ACTUAL English event in which an edict allowed local farmers to use the "common land". These farmers, acting as rational individuals, chose to have their cows and sheep overgraze, thus having them grow fatter and more profitable. And as everyone acted in their own self interest and rationally, it over extended the commons to a point in where the land was unusable. And as far as I was taught, if someone were to own that land and see it was becoming unusable, they would step in and stop it. When you own something, you take better care of it. It's a fact. How many people go to parties and don't care about the mess they make, how many people litter on the beach, etc. You have no incentive to protect or clean anything if you'll only see a short term gain as the people who visit the area after you wreck it and mess it. It's not about selling a profitable enterprise as you can't sell it since it isn't even yours. However, if you can recognize that fact and realize it's a communally owned property than it's different. If it's recognize by the group as owned by the group than the group will try to preserve it. However, if no one or group will claim ownership who will protect it. There wouldn't even be forests (or as many at least) in America had Roosevelt not created the National Parks Service. He decided that they needed to owned so they could be preserved and saved. Humans are tragically short sited, if we would read the writing on the walls would there really be tragedies like Easter Island, the extinction of the Dodo bird, the latest American recession? I doubt it. Ownership isn't bad per say but it does has it's draws back. People forgo long term benefit for short term game. Like when you decide to get a good paying job after high school versus college and end up making less in the long run.
ThatOneAccount931 Would it not have incentivized the farmers to treat all the cows equally on the common land if they co-operatively owned all the cows and voted on how to distribute all the money made from the cows?
When I ran out of words to describe my despair with plethora of preposterous metaphors here, I turned to this comment and smiled it's true. You truly do get it, o yes you do.
Businesses nowadays don't really care about persistence. With the buying and trading of stock, markets are largely motivated by short term growth. Then people sell their stocks and couldn't care less
Red Pentalpha If that's what you think, then you didn't read the book or see the original 1972 special. And if you did, then you missed the point of them entirely.
Stoneth I did read the book. I did not see the 1972 special though. I think it was a good movie, you are just taking it too seriously. If you didn't like it, then fine. There is nothing wrong with me liking it.
Actually, I saw the movie. It was a well-expanded movie (as you can never expect NO expansion when making a movie out of a children's book) that added to the message that the book has now. Sure, it's a "whole different story", but it's a meta-story. The story surrounding the world of "The Lorax", the book, is filled in magnificently in a dystopian utopia, and the movie kept faithful to the book as possible (You just can't make a movie without showing one of the main characters until the end!).
I feel that if the Lorax would want to continue his profit, he would plant multiple plots of thneeds that would be harvested at different times then replanted to make sure his profits continue to come in instead of blindly harvesting every tree in a forest.
If you were to do that you would risk getting out produced by a competitor who's willing to cut down trees for short term profit therefore the capitalist free market incentive creates long term environmental problems
@sol1d gh0st No, you don't. You have made fabulous profit in the short term, which happens to also be your career. Long term would benefit people who follow you, but not necessarily you.
This is actually what we do. Do you think loggers just take and take with no replanting. One problem is that a lot of forest just becomes a farm and not a habitat. There are plenty of trees in the world, just not the natural kind of variety or lifespan anymore. Like how you can get an apple almost anywhere at anytime these days but only a few varieties (at most stores)
The Lorax: Master of guilt-tripping
Lorax please help me I being killed slowly from people like this
you cant say ones right and ones wrong
So why dont we all just get along
666 likes woah
In rhyme no less. This man-...er, Lorax is a god.
@@a.bagasm.7253 You can
**Dr. Suess has left the server**
Emma Utterback no he was a leftist
20 years ago...
:)
Joie Russell all his story’s have this strong communist music
Joie Russell I’m leftist
“I am the Lorax I speak for he trees now pick up your litter or I’ll break you knees.”
Nah, that's more like ancom Lorax
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@@MattFyrm have you seen Cuba? Commies hate the environment.
Ecofash all day
@@jagerbluetooth43 I wouldn't quite call Cuba ancom :P
On the contrary they are or at the very least were statist communists
Jager Bluetooth Eco fascists leaving their bedroom treehouse when their mom calls them to come back inside for dinner.
I am the Lorax
And I speak for the trees
But I can't understand them
Because they speak Vietnamese
*Cái quái gì vậy ???*
Cheyenne Bates oui
I've deppresion and despair
Gepetto is in the belly of a whale
So why dont you get him out there
In those dark,chaotic,sad jail
@@Sahiyena11 hay lắm bạn
A. Bagas M. Oh well oh my
A true capitalist would farm the trees instead of cutting them all down.
@Nova Ah, the good old conservative bizarro-verse.
@Nova Sure. Tell yourself that. As long as you can lie to yourself, you'll feel fine. You'll be a fool. But you'll feel good about it.
Bravo
Unfortunately capitalism isn't great at long term planning. Farms take capital to set up and it's more profitable to exhaust a resource, make a killing as it becomes rare, then move onto the next thing.
Matt Dombrowski Its more profitable to renew and farm the resource, like what most conservative businesses do.
I am the Lorax
And I speak for the trees.
And this tree says...
Please End Me
"I beg of you please" says the tree so it seems
And this tree wants a table made out of it's knees.
It pleaded and pleaded so a chainsaw the Lorax needed
With chainsaw so mighty!
The tree fell down so brightly!
It’s suffering has ended
It’s death no longer suspended
The trees cried out free!
Thank god no more jimmy!
**End Me Please
I am the lorax,
I speak for the trees,
Touch me or them again,
And ill break your fucking knees.
That Lorax is dumb. He should’ve saved some trees to make more trees.
Todd Kubela true a real capitalist would replant to maintain a profit
Going back to the original story, I think Seuss was trying to make a separate point about responsibility and the like, through the modus of trees, not one particularly about capitalism, and environmentalism. So an obvious solution like what logging companies do irl would've messed with the intended message. But I agree, if environmentalism was the true aim, it should have brought up points like that. Although they do mention in the cartoon how long it takes to grow truffula trees. 10 months just to germinate, and many many years after that just to grow a bit, so creating massive orchards would've taken a long time especially with how quickly thneed corp. expanded from nothing.
*logger factory*
@@robertwagonschutz777 true, though there are many instances of capitalist prefering short term profits to mid and long term profitability. It's more of a metaphor.
True
The Supreme Court approved of something called citizens united which recognizes corporations as human beings, thus allowing them to donate as much money as they want to politicians. So that line about corporations being people hits really hard 😢
They have changed this since then, of course it is knowingly still full of loopholes
Citizens united determined that political donations were a form of speech. The idea is that since verbal support of something is protected by the First Amendment, monetary support is also protected. So long as the donors do not conspire with the campaign, they can donate as much as they like through PACs and SuperPACs because the court views their money as a form of speech
@@heyitsally7995 isn't there laws about giving too much to a candidate?
@@justanotheranimeprofilepic yes. But the lawyers found a very clever loophole. Half as interesting has an excellent video about this.
I think the idea is that companies are allowed to fund adds in support of political campaigns as much as they please as long as they don't cooperate with the campaign itself, or at least as long as cooperation can't be proved.
Dr. Seuss had a weird way of rapping...but he threw down bars pretty memorably.
It's called poetry
@@Neilapolitan08 it's called a joke
@@Neilapolitan08 liar
I misread it💀
Yeah.
Welp, there goes your oxygen
the majority of our oxygen is produced by moss and algae
Soviet Doge Nice, didn't know :D
Vecthur the more you know, the less you value life as we know it :-[
+Soviet Doge Actually, most of the oxygen we breath is from the oxygen stored in the atmosphere.
Freakin Hobbs i said produced by moss and algae not what we consume
Made 8 years ago and it feels like nothing's really changed...
republicans will keep sucking billionaire dicks as long as billionaires exist
@@icyr0bin-794 Well it will take a civil war to weed them out, so lets see in 20 years
Yeah :(
and the democrats don´t ??? ----- they even give them a subsidy or two and some nice tax loops
@@baronbrummbar8691 both parties suck
Kid: Wait, wait, cant you make a national park and have thousands of tourists spent their money-
Lorax: Now Now, stop right at money, you just made me thousands of dollars richer.
National Parks make THE STATE more money, not ideal.
@@TheBayzent It's that or more taxes, buddy. Running a country ain't cheap.
NO TREES = NO OXYGEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@MatteoProductionsStudio we know
@@MatteoProductionsStudiofalse algea exists
Let it die, let it die, let it shrivel up and... c'mon who's with me huh?
Nobody!
Raidenslicer YOU GREEDY DIRTBAG!
Michael Carvajal L E T I T G R O W
PokéOtaku L E T T H E L I G H T I N S I D E Y O U S H O W
Michael Carvajal P L A N T T H E S E E D I N S I D E T H E E A R T H
And then he ran for president, true story.
Lchup1cabara i thought of the same exact thing haha
+miksuaka XD
Heathcliff "global warming is a hoax"
+Staffaynu "perpetrated by the fish to destabilize the truffula market"
ethan howsare ikr, can't believe it oh well
This parody still has better plot than the 2012 movie
Let it grow
@@lifeboy3253 Biggering
@@spochysrandomnetwork2865 how bad can i be
@@Mypfpisbetterthanyours Biggering
@@lifeboy3253 Biggering cope
Remove the irony and you have a PragerU video.
I mean even with the Irony the Lorax is right
Lol ouch
Got em
@@TheReasonableSkepticist no he's not really he's not even a smart business man, if he was he would of saved a good portion of the trees so they could make more trees etc.
You get the point.
Oh it's so sad! Sniff! Those poor managers and tycoons. How are they supposed to buy an eleventh yacht?
13th you mean
@@PMVoid 50th
By making smart moves in the market
Actually the more yachts they buy the better for everyone
@Republican Channel yup that's the point
FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TREES WORK...
Yes, trees can grow back, but it takes decades for them to do so. Not to mention the graphic change in enviorment their absence can leave.
Thx to librals no more paper or houses cuz we cant cut trees
DisneyKidsFOREVER and they do keep a local environment free of massive runoff, and absorb pollution.
But a majority of our O2 comes from good ol' algae! And there isn't a regulation on that (I mean, most of it is out of our way so we don't touch it, but still)
I find that clip oddly concerning as a conservative
It really depends on the type of tree, some only take a year or two to grow. Lumber and paper industries have actually created more forest then they've destroyed by using trees that grow quickly.
The real problem is when big companies clear out already established forest to make room for factories or plantations.
+HunterTheCyborg// HunterHTC I've recently heard of this new house building alternative to wood called stone! I guess it's one of the trends those weird hipster stoneage kids like to follow. But to be honest, it's too futuristic for my taste
Replacing a forest with different species of growth affects the ecology of the local area. Different animals are bound to spring up with a new systemic homeostasis~
O'Hare came back disguised as the Lorax!
True!
O’Hare is back for revenge
@@mauriciolizarbe4835 POV: O'hare went to Hogwarts got sorted in to Slytherin and make polyjuice potion and got hairstyle tip from Snape 🤣
*Me:*The illegal ingurries have TONS of truffalo trees.
*Lorax:* Well invasion by the militag is just what we needs
Who doesn't love casual Trump references
@@WildMagicBoggle is that a trump reference?
@@scythe2534 maybe...
awww yeahh macro economics BABEEEEEEEEEEE
Y O U G R E E D Y D I R T B A G
Let it grow, let it grow
You don't know me, but my name's Sai
But it seems like trees, might be worth a try
My name is Dan, and my name's Rose
Mr. Toaster And that's not good, so we supose...
We should let it grow
Let it grow, let it grow
The funny thing is, this more competent and convincing than 90% of conservative media.
I love how most of these comments are from a 1 year or 2 years yet this video came out 2012 lol
And they’re either “THE TREES SPEAK VIETNAMESE” or completely irrelevant to the video
3 years later and still accurate. Timeless lessons emphasized by Dr. S and CH
10 years
wdym? Paper and Wood instry plant the most trees of all. Way more then they cut ;P
@@YangChuan2001nope! they plant literally a fraction of what they cut down
@@CyanWatercress4 Maybe on a world wide stage since the government heavily subsidies the production of processes food and bio fuels resulting in the destruction of the rainforest for example but not in the developed world such as the US or Europe. Planting a tree costs a fraction of a fraction of what they make as a profit out of the wood, replanting results in a huge long-term profit and it would be financially brain dead to not do it - which is why, like I said, the wood industry plants the mist trees and that is a fact. The wood industry does basically the same as the average farmer, planting and harvesting.
More than half the forest land in the U.S is owned and managed by about 11 million private forest owners. Private forest lands provided 89% of the domestically produced wood and paper products in 2017. The income landowners receive for trees grown on their land encourages them to maintain, sustainably manage and renew this valuable resource.
At the same time the net forest area in the U.S. has been stable since the early 1900s and increased by about 2% from 752 million to 765 million acres between 2007 and 2017. Net volume of growing stock increased by more than 5% over the same period.
It's ok we have Mr Beast
Honestly I don't understand how people can fall perfectly into the outline of either party. Conservatism makes sense on some issues. Liberalism makes sense on some issues. If we would agree to take the best of each party, we could do truly great things.
Thank you. Seriously. The people who 100% agree with either party are idiots.
Jim Bob Compromise is only attainable when the two parties either want the same thing, or have more in common than they don't. With American Politics, this is NOT the case.
+Jim Bob cute
liberalism and conservatism are only two faces of the same system. both act within the framework of capitalism and both are comparatively right wing if you compare it to other political positions (ie reformism/social democracy or various versions of socialism): in the 30s both viewpoints showed themselves as more willing to side with fascism in europe than with the left (notably in spain). so yes there's plenty of room for compromises between the two, but to say that's because they both have good ideas is where I have to depart with you.
+Jim Bob
Spot on, couldn't agree more! Too bad there's no third party to highlight this problem.
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I visualize someone saying, "hey, do you like blue or red?"
They both have their ups and downs. It's hard to make a defining choice over who the lesser of two evils is. Voting in this system is fucked, there seems to be no purpose.
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Why not implement a system where you show up, they give you a sheet, it has the top 30 important issues.
You then check either "yes", "no", or "abstain" on each topic from top to bottom.
Then you slide it into a ballot box.
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I just hate this whole "he said this" "Oh yeah? Well HE said this!" The back and forth of politics is just sad, it's hard to get into.
I have a feeling most people vote because they feel very strongly on one or two subjects and that makes them "left" or "right". Or there are others who don't want to let their family down so they just go with the flow. And finally, there are those who abstain from voting all together.
Lorax no longer speaks for the tree. He now speaks for the money and capitalism.
And Onceler be like: Bro wtf
I didn't know what politics were when I first watched this as a kid I just thought this was funny "ha ha Lorax is evil now!" Crazy to see how batshit crazy politics have gotten
Which is why I stay out of them.
Hey internet! I just made a nonpolitical comment. FEAR ME!!!!
Don't kill me! I have a wife and children.
Oh God ! Was the prophecy true?
Has the web revealed the one chosen?
Hiding I have to because in time a few
Mercy won't shows for the children's man!
(Sorry for bad english)
unkykun No problem, google translate has issues. Keep learning! ;)
Ivore Surkuri Not sure what you are talking about, But I like the enthusiasm! :)
Thanks for explaining it. Sorry that I didn't get the reference, I'm not much of a gamer I'm afraid.
That lorax reminds me of Trump :P
But he is republican
+Bindy Catt Don't compare Trump to ANY political party, even the ones he says he's in. Lol
Except his hair went down to his mustache
+Amber cat Gamer24 ... Trump should win (Nice B8 M8, 88/8, time tuh go masterb8. don't w8)
+Horizen Walker no he should not. He is a fucking idiot with a mind full of air
Farming trees would not solve the problem. The book was about how the animals and other plants were affected.
We already know the tragic story of the Lorax
FARM BOTH THE THE PLANTS AND ANIMALS TOO!
It sorta would, since they could reuse area rather then go on to other areas.
It could atleast cover some demand, slowing the damage caused.
So while not entirely solved, it bides more time.
The book was meant to push compromise, so the workers and animals can both live. Too far to one extreme is what led to disaster.
Then plant your own trees without the animals
They forgot the part where Monsanto sues the kid for theft lol
Lorax grew up, went to Harvard Business School, graduated with honors, started up Stratton Oakmont with The Wolf of Wall Street, got rich, ran for Senate and now he's here. I don't know if I'm proud.
Don't, wolf of wall street wasn't supposed to make you cheer for the dude
@@techissus7449 Same with Fight Club, but the message was lost
Take a shot everytime they rhyme something with 'tree' or 'trees'
playing it RIGHT NOW
Don't. You will get alcohol poisoning.
Lol
+im helpful is a lie you called me?
don't, though l. you will die from alcohol poisoning.
I thought that the word ”Conservative” meant someone who was traditional and likes something of the old days.
No it's just Republican stuck better than conservative in America.
@@python1972 Actually being a conservative means to uphold traditional values, we like to conserve that is why it is called conservatism.
@@imanoldsoul59 I believe the word you're looking for is : Preserve
@@SirPhrosty Conserve: to protect or uphold, and preserve
Liberals are creative and
Cosnservatives are dutiful
So why dont we all get a long
To make this world beutiful
I am the Lorax
I speak for the trees
Litter again
Say goodbye to your knees
I'm just a random commenter and i say...
Canada makes a nice bit of money, eh?
That's beceause they cut trees, but now you must ask:
Why are there so many trees there, if they all get the axe?
Well my friend, that's to do with legislations.
They benefit the forest, and also corporations.
For every tree cut, two more are planted.
That's to make sure the forests don't get blanted.
And then we see something very nice.
They managed to keep forests healthy, despite all the ice.
Truly, it is possible now.
To make money and still say "wow".
You see my friends, corporations aren't crazy.
It's the government that's sometimes a bit lazy.
I salute you now, as i am out of rhymes.
And whatever you do, remember to look back at the old times.
THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES
INTernal Jordan I know right!?
Yay canada i hate my country usa sucks
The same thing happens in America. We also plant 2 trees for every 1 cut down.
Jona Willekens ..."blanted"?
LET IT DIE LET IT DIE LET IT SHRIVEL UP AND DIE 🅱️😤😤
LET IT 🅱️IE
You 🅱️reedy 🅱️irt 🅱️ag
YOU GREEDY DIRBAAAAAAG
Lauren Jewel z yOU gREeDy DiRT bAG!
Cheryl Lynsky PPP
This video was ahead of its time.
corporations: "chop down all the trees"
also corporations: why is everyone as well as us dying?
deadass not how it happens irl. supplies are contracted out, and the suppliers are the ones who replenish things, we dont exactly clear cut forests and leave nothing behind in forestry. and it's kinda a dumb idea that doesnt apply to life that capitalism, the free market which regulates itself to keep going would cause a supply shortage where it would stop total production of basic supplies.
@@3kojimbles895 if your going to provide your input on my opinion please leave hostilities out of it...............deadass
@@mirroredchaos well guess I'll say "not how it happens irl no cap" same shit either way man
The onceler said: Who cares if a few things are dying?...
@@3kojimbles895 Don't explain life to people who never paid taxes. It's pointless.
Technically by definition the lorax is a conservative
How?
+Fear The Mutt Conservationism. ;)
Yeah, I looked that word up, and it's exactly what I thought. The Lorax from the original story was not a conservative.
+Fear The Mutt
The lorax is trying to conserve the forest so there for he is technically a conservative ;)
+rajat mehndiratta
Corection: thats not the POLITICAL definition of conservative
You can't spell "economy" without "eco"
白ない where were the tree ents when you needed them
白ない ekonomy
あかり赤座 haha
*ego
Carlminion to
“And all of a sudden, I heard a guzzumer. And a strange little man, popped out of a Hummer”
Basically Trump starting his campaign in 2016
Liberals are creative and conservatves are dutiful
And that's why we must talk
To make the world beutiful
@@a.bagasm.7253 f u c k l i b e r a l s
@@milkchugger17ACTUALLY,you can't tell wich one is right because in large part is determined by your personality wich means that sometimes the liberal is right and sometime the conservatives are correct. That's why we need both of them to have a political discussion so that our soceity is functioning
Wasim Tuber Liberals should join forces with conservatives to take down the true problem, the fascist democrats.
@@misterling645 Lol. Conservatives already proved themselves as Trump enablers and have officially sold their soul to the devil. Only the Lincoln project has redeemed themselves.
"I am the Lorax I speak for my fees, and if you keep protecting the trees, I will feast on your knees."
I think i finally understand how liberal college humor is
Wrong. They make fun of liberals too
*****
Nope, they do. You just haven't looked
Jonny, can you explain to me how racial profiling can be construed as not racist
***** I would say "Where are your sources to prove that statement?"
source: the ministry of defence crime statistics
*Trump*
This was made in 2012
Carmela M they predicted the future
He also ran in 2012, but didn't get far. He started the Birther Movement (the people who claimed Obama wasn't born in America) and then he dropped out before the nominations.
Storm Shred nah it’s just that trump and Romney have a lot of similarities.
The future was predicted by the simsons too... scarry
This obviously was about more than Trump, it was the whole conservative party
Legends say that those poor tycoons’ butler’s butlers had to fire their butler’s butler!
2:00 "A company's an animal that's trying to survive, it's struggling and fighting to keep itself alive!"
biggering
Trying to keep itself ALERT..
So I'm not the only fan of this song here...
"corporations are people too"
for 2012 even CollegeHumor knew alot
They're made up of people, sure. Yet they lack that human touch.
Depends which type
true
why do things like these never mention that most logging companies plant trees as they cut?
To maintain their narrative.
That's why everyday footballfields of rainforest are choped down.
Cardi Jey ??? Your point is... what exactly? Sure they cut down football fields. Then they promptly plant new trees right where they cut. Kind of like a farmer. A farmer harvests his corn, but he knows he'll run out, so once the harvest is over, he plants more corn for next year.
oh nono, here in the us, or in europe, that is the case. Our wood is from preserved areas where they keep a balance, but if it comes to wood from asia, africa and south america, they chop everything down without regrets and vision for the future. That's why i said rainforest. But we are not totally innocent, we buy that stuff.
Cardi Jey Ah. It seems like a pretty bad business plan from those companies then. They'll run out of both product and the ability to plant more. Are you sure that none of them are doing that over there? I really thought I saw something about one of the bigger, US logging companies replanting even in the rain forests.
What's even funnier about this political cartoon is Doctor Seuss actually started out as a political cartoonist
Logging Regulations:
Replant for every chopped,cutted,and bulldozed trees.
No burning the trees.
Dynamite needs to be handled carefully.
Be fair to the competitions.
No Pollution.
No Littering.
just change the mustache to its hair and we have Sir Donald
TheWooperAbove *Triggered*
100th like.
Sir??? i thought he was born in the usa ( not a monarchy )
Marte van Vechel Well...he is trying to blur the lines
Just put the stache on his head
You know the biggest threat to trees aren't loggers right? With loggers, they plant more trees to replace what they took, or use paper farms, or in easier terms have farmers grow trees in order to sell it for paper. Now the real threat would be farming actually, mostly for raising domestic animals.
true, and almost all the trees cut down now are only 60 years old roughly. their 3rd growth and years of cutting down and replanting
YESSSS!!!! You are so right!!!! Animal agriculture (meat, dairy, egg, etc. Industries) contribute to 91% of Amazon rainforest destruction. Animal agriculture also contributes to 51% of all greenhouse gas emissions. All transportions (cars, airplanes, trains, etc) only contribute 13%.
are you sure? I dont know if they pushed it or not, or even if a regulation even exists. but I know the trees cut down now are 3rd and even 4th growth. and I cant imagine a regulation being passed for logging 150 years ago
because they took all the trees, and put them in a tree museum. And people had to pay a dollar and a half to see them. they took all the trees and put in a parking lot... lol.
The biggest threat to trees is fire, and big logging companies are among the biggest contributors to fire danger, especially in old-growth forest. This is true in the U.S. anyway.
*If Lorax decided to join once-ler*
*T R U E*
It’s ironic how he’s called “Conservative” Lorax, he’s not Conserving anything.
I know
The Lorax is representing their warped view of what a conservative is, which in this case he isn't a true conservative.
@@pwnomega4562 you remind me of the "not real socialism" people
the conservative only conserving the free market and Israel
He's conserving the institution of capitalism
@@loona_mew face the wall, nazbol
Yes my children will know this story well. A real tear jerker of an ending. So beautiful.
Don't mind me, just a non-political comment.
HUH finally
jwan besande good luck on your journey young comment, one day you will be needed, keep in earshot non-political comment you will be called upon and on that day you will transcend all expectations
Demilitarized zone coming through!
Austin Parnell wtf is wrong with you. You must have a rock for brains
I don't understand it, but it's obviously a joke
a time traveler: *move a chair*
the lorax:
Found this years ago, loved it, still do
If the Lorax were actually a conservative, he would invest his profits in planting more Truffela Trees, and then everyone could be rich AND have nature.
*****
First of all, your reply has nothing to do with my comment, but I'll answer anyway.
The "no blacks allowed" thing was fifty years ago, and I don't even know what you're saying in the rest of the comment.
*****
Yeah, but the beauty of capitalism is that if someone doesn't want to be an employee, they can start their own company.
Plus, the alternatives to capitalism suck, so...
*****
Immoral actions of a few don't discredit the system, we have laws against monopolies, and it's a doctor's choice what he does and doesn't recommend.
Businesses should have the right to deny service based on ANY reason, including race. You don't have the right to anyone's service.
*****
So what you're saying is that there are no laws against marketing unsafe products without warning?
*****
So, then, the answer isn't less capitalism, but more enforcement of laws.
I think its funny How they used the term conservative to describe someone who wanted to change something and not conserve the forest. It seems pretty liberal to me.
kkknotcool He's conserving free market.
Mono Nonny That's not free market. People don't strip their own land of all vegetation. I think the truffala forest was a national park.
kkknotcool I'm just going by what the anthropomorphic lobster walrus in a beard and business suit said.
Mono Nonny Lobster?
kkknotcool maybe
I... I’m dying of laughter
The lorax looks like trump
Somehow this is a better story than the 2012 movie. Thank god there’s no how bad can I be
Sam! Thanks for coming in
@@priestofronaldalt Well, I am quite good you know
69 Likes.
The amount of angry conservatives who can't take a joke
Jason Shults A shining example
+yWreck Are just a bunch of big awful blokes!
(Continue!)
+yWreck angry liberals are worse... (college protests lmao)
+Bob it actually was pretty funny lol
+yWreck i can when you do the same to the other side... This channel cannot it simply goes after the right. Done with this channel.
I'm getting more of an anti-capitalist vibe rather than an anti-conservative vibe.
what did you expect from communisthumor?
Wow funny joke casperd. You are just hilarious.
I don't see a problem here comrade ☭
Good
I mean, capitalism does profit off the destruction of the environment, whilst socialism will maintain trees for the good of all. Capitalism prefers profit; socialism good for all. Social Democracy may try to combine both, but eco-socialism is the only way to save the environment. There's no surprise to be found here.
Okay, but you do realize "the economy" doesn't just mean the stock market and the rich getting richer and all...
It's also everyone's jobs, (including the middle and lower classes) and it's having enough quality goods and services for everyone to live.
Yeah well what's the point of living when Earth looks like planet Mars? Idk what kind of lifestyle you live and what you value. It's foolish to place such values on what you said when there will come a day that there's no resources left for these greedy people to pillage and then there will REALLY be no jobs left.
@@russelstrawmire9817 I know. I didn't say we shouldn't stop destroying planet or anything. I'm just saying if somebody expresses concern about "the economy" they're talking about something important and you shouldn't dismiss them as just a greedy monopolist.
@@ethanpetersen810 Fair enough, fair enough.
“Every single thing this “conservative” lorax says is the reason why the human race will cease to an end.” - The ghost of Dr. Seuss, 2021
Remove the word lorax and he would still say that
That is pretty much what happen in I think Zimbabwe, there is a massive hole in the landscape because Diamond mining was unregulated and the guy who ran the operation was a British guy who only cared about making money having no care for the environment or the people that lived there.
@@kappadarwin9476 africa summed up in one sentence
"how bad could I possibly be?"
Not bad at all
*man fucks bird*
A company's an animal
That's trying to survive
It's struggling and fighting
Just to keep itself alive
@@shurale123 Biggering is triggering more biggering!
Man, this Lorax was very convincing.
+Identity is Fuckingunknownbitch trump is the fakest capitalist to walk the earth hes a wolf who say what people want to hear and right now thats bold kickass stuff, but he wont do shit
+Jack Wilby Fake Capitalist??
His entire fortune is made off of free enterprise.
However he likes tariffs...What's up with that?
just years ago he favored very liberal ideas and ways of doing things, and just now he did a complete 180 pretty suspicious if you ask me
+Jack Wilby Ronald Reagan was a democrate.
+Nathan Brinkerhoff Um no, he was a Republican
Time traveler: *kicks a rock*
The timeline:
the lorax but its opposite day's POV💀💀💀💀
If you put the mustache on top of the Lorax's head, and you'll find Donald Trump.
CrAzyW3irdo Still better than fucking Hillary.
Nosebleed Macgee Oh, but see, that's incorrect.
minioop2 *Raises Eyebrow* Really now.
At least she isn't breaking the FIRST AMENDMENT
Tankerchief She wants to get rid of the Second Amendment.
Republicans are red, Democrats are blue, and neither of them give a shit about you.
I'm not picking sides. Fuck narrow minded political parties. I'm staying independent, thank you very much.
dude, I just watched a Dr. Seuss parody AND the first sentence of your comment. I was reading the rest expecting it to rhyme XD
Even George Washington said that political parties were a bad idea. He said they would create a divisive environment in which people could just flock to one side or the other instead of formulating their own deductions.
And, that's exactly what has happened.
only your first sentence rhymed...
What the fuck is this? In Dr Seuss everything rhymes.
Do it again and stop wasting my time.
Rhyme your ass off and don't be lazy.
Or I will turn you crazy.
This bullshit party system and this "pick a side" bs only causes hostility and leaves little to no room for compromise or understanding. Mark my words, in due time the country will end up with another civil war and end up as a divided shithole, oh wait, that's already happening.
I’m the Lorax and I speak for the trees. But some fucking reason they speak Vietnamese.
I was always confused why they didnt just use a ladder to get the leaves from the truffula tree instead of cutting them down
That’s what they did the 2012 the Lorax movie but it took too long so they had to cut em down.
@@RyanZacharko but they did the exact same thing when the tree fell
They should include that the illegal imgury's worked for the lorax at a below minimum salary.
Exclaims the tiny uneducated liberal
VeRGoGaming 891 Nah, I'm pretty educated, that's why I know that Trump uses illegals to build his towers and plans on using them to build the wall (and making them pay for it).
the tiny uneducated liberal retorts.
Blurry Birb well at least he would be employing immigrants, unlike leftists who want them financially dependent on state welfare provided by tax payers money.
is joke....
As hilarious as this is, and as much as I despise the lobbyists and bureaucrats that run this country, the video has the same flaw that the original story had. A smart business owner would have ensured the survival of the trees so that he would always have the resources to make more thneeds. It would have been in everyone's best interest to preserve them. Of course, that wasn't the main message of the story, so it's alright
Have you ever heard if the tragedy of the commons?
Actually, businesses have an incentive to effectively rape the land because the cost of it is split evenly among everyone, so while it's huge in total, it's low for the corporation. Meanwhile the benefit of it is nothing for the people, but big for the corporation. So this destruction is worth it for the corporation but not for everyone in total.
W Abc yeah but once you run out of resources, thats it. So you can rape the land all you want, but you’re screwing yourself over in the long run
@@mikeydaversa1760 A small family business would.
But stock traders don't care about the long term. They want fast profits yesterday and once the resources are gone they have already liquidated and moved on. And big corporations just see value in scarcity, because if you control all that is left then you can put whatever price you want.
Which is why you need incentives and regulations for small, sustainable business to thrive.
Kristian Jörgensen but if you just controlled the resource, like the kid controls the forest in the video, then you could ensure those fast profits far into the future and ride the train until JUST before the wheels fall off. That’s by far the most profitable plan
im gonna tell my kids that this is the lorax
“And Everyone Died! The End.”Patrick Star
This is actually the most persuasive arguement for the Conservative viewpoint I've ever seen.Take from that what you will.
The 20-minute TV special (the one that follows the origional to a t) is on Hulu, and it is much better than this.
Ok, I hate comments that say " This is propaganda!" Well duh! You can't persuade people to take your political view without it. Everyone does it!
"How good can I possibly be?"
As a conservative, even I have to admit.
*This is 🅱️ U C K I N G HILARIOUS* 😂🤣👌😆🤔
For sure
Indeed
Stop being a conservative
Well as a conservative, you should reconsider your stance
@@wiggy009 "oRaNge mAn bAd"
I've always wondered this, couldnt they have shaved the trees in lorax without cutting them down? The fabric or whatever they are supposed to be would have just grown back, cutting them down would have just destroyed profits, also technically some trees do die and should actually be chopped down to prevent forest fires, ironically, this is actually good for the environment
becouse the new lorax movie was an anti capitalist propaganda movie ---- if you watch the original it makes way more sence
@@baronbrummbar8691 this is not explained,perhaps a fandom wiki suggest the wood is used as firewall.Also the problem is that the onceler cuts to many trees, theres a diference betwen choping down some trees and choping down the entire forest
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 do you know the Lorax demo songs ???
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they show what the movie was suposed to be
@@baronbrummbar8691 i only know biggering
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168 "Thneedville" (intro song) has a demo version ...... it is pretty messed up aswell
Illumination Lorax sequel leaked
Not one person thought to replant the trees after chopping them down. Logging companies aren't stupid, if a lack of trees in the future will destroy their business they'll plant more trees now.
I'm conservative, and am against mass deforestation. Only log when you replant the trees, twofold or more. (I'm constitutional BTW)
+HyerJohn Standing for the constitution is the definition of conservatism, but college humor doesn't get that.
+HyerJohn Constitutionalists are against privatizing the US post, right?
+HyerJohn you cant be constitutional and conservative, because they largely ignore the whole freedom from religion thing
+Zack Edwards Yeah, perhaps that is the definition of conservatism, but have you seen the politicians and office seekers nowadays who go under the label conservative?
FattyRollsAgainOSU You mean frauds like John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, and even Newt Gingrich?
Yes, because nothing's more profitable than depleting your whole source of supply.
***** Banana's are a natural mutation, and are wiped out easily. The banana that was commonly eaten from the 1920's to the 1950's was nearly driven to extinction because of lack of genetic variance, and the banana we eat today faces the same threat.
***** Not to be rude but the tragedy of commons is a story promoting private enterprise. Essentially, the tragedy comes from the fact that since no ONE person owned the land, the collective could not bother to maintain it's upkeep. Rather, they kept using it and using it until there was nothing left where as if it had been privately owned, the owner would have stepped in. It's a good lesson but not exactly applicable in this sense as private ownership and big business are now the cause for the tragedy. When everyone owns something, people may be less inclined to clean it up (much like your roommate(s) despite that everyone would benefit from clean dishes, vacuumed rugs, etc.). However, when it is privately owned for the sake of profit and nothing else, the owners may (as shown through experience) will only care about the profit here and now. It's not a collective issue but a greed issue. When is enough enough and what will we sacrifice for it. And that's all of us, even the majority who support these institutions for a few dollars more. But that leads us to low wages and the like which stem for the previous problem of big business who outsources. ...I did not mean for this post to be so long and....rude isn't the right word...preachy maybe? Sorry.
ThatOneAccount931 The tragedy of the commons happens under communism, however, there is a way to get all the benefits of communism and capitalism without the downfall of either. It's called co-operative enterprise.
It's a business model where every worker of particular business enterprise shares ownership of said business. All the workers vote on their wages, and on how to run the business. All the money that in a private enterprise would become the private money of the Capitalist, now is the pooled money of that whole business. Instead of blindly obeying orders and competing with employees for promotions, everyone would be able to freely discuss and debate about how things should be run, and there would be a work environment of community and cooperation and autonomy. Co-operative enterprise would be able to be conscientious of externalities such as how the environment is being effected by their business practices because unlike in a competitive economy where you have to compete at all costs just to achieve bottom line profit needed to survive as a business, a co-operative enterprise cooperates with everyone, and therefore has time to step back and discuss and be conscious of externalities.
And the tragedy of the commons is avoided with this model since free riders would be getting a share of money that could be spread among the rest of you, you would have an economic incentive to fire free riders, meaning people would have an incentive not to be free riders themselves.
And unlike communism, co-operative enterprise still respects personal property, so you could wake up in your private home, put on your private clothes, eat some of your private food for breakfast and drink some of your coffee and if it helps you work smoke a bowl of some good sativa and then drive your private car to a workplace that you co-operatively own and run with all of your co-workers.
And there are different models of co-op, different models work better for different businesses. Some are a direct democracy, some elect managers every so often in elections (and usually vote for them to have slightly higher pay as an economic incentive to do well), some elect work councils, whatever works.
***** I do not want to be rude or come across crass but you are wrong. I am a Political Science major and an Economics minor, the Tragedy of Commons stems from an ACTUAL English event in which an edict allowed local farmers to use the "common land". These farmers, acting as rational individuals, chose to have their cows and sheep overgraze, thus having them grow fatter and more profitable. And as everyone acted in their own self interest and rationally, it over extended the commons to a point in where the land was unusable. And as far as I was taught, if someone were to own that land and see it was becoming unusable, they would step in and stop it. When you own something, you take better care of it. It's a fact. How many people go to parties and don't care about the mess they make, how many people litter on the beach, etc. You have no incentive to protect or clean anything if you'll only see a short term gain as the people who visit the area after you wreck it and mess it. It's not about selling a profitable enterprise as you can't sell it since it isn't even yours. However, if you can recognize that fact and realize it's a communally owned property than it's different. If it's recognize by the group as owned by the group than the group will try to preserve it. However, if no one or group will claim ownership who will protect it. There wouldn't even be forests (or as many at least) in America had Roosevelt not created the National Parks Service. He decided that they needed to owned so they could be preserved and saved. Humans are tragically short sited, if we would read the writing on the walls would there really be tragedies like Easter Island, the extinction of the Dodo bird, the latest American recession? I doubt it. Ownership isn't bad per say but it does has it's draws back. People forgo long term benefit for short term game. Like when you decide to get a good paying job after high school versus college and end up making less in the long run.
ThatOneAccount931 Would it not have incentivized the farmers to treat all the cows equally on the common land if they co-operatively owned all the cows and voted on how to distribute all the money made from the cows?
Prager U kids be like
“This cartoony zing zanger replaces logic with Woke. If trees go extinct all tree business goes broke!!!”
When I ran out of words to describe my despair with plethora of preposterous metaphors here, I turned to this comment and smiled it's true. You truly do get it, o yes you do.
Businesses nowadays don't really care about persistence. With the buying and trading of stock, markets are largely motivated by short term growth. Then people sell their stocks and couldn't care less
@@vikmanphotography7984 but their suppliers do lmao. we dont do vertical monopolies anymore, except maybe Google and amazon but still
Still better than The Lorax movie from 2012.
Oh cmon, that movie was good.
Red Pentalpha If that's what you think, then you didn't read the book or see the original 1972 special. And if you did, then you missed the point of them entirely.
Stoneth I did read the book. I did not see the 1972 special though.
I think it was a good movie, you are just taking it too seriously. If you didn't like it, then fine. There is nothing wrong with me liking it.
Actually, I saw the movie. It was a well-expanded movie (as you can never expect NO expansion when making a movie out of a children's book) that added to the message that the book has now. Sure, it's a "whole different story", but it's a meta-story. The story surrounding the world of "The Lorax", the book, is filled in magnificently in a dystopian utopia, and the movie kept faithful to the book as possible (You just can't make a movie without showing one of the main characters until the end!).
I feel that if the Lorax would want to continue his profit, he would plant multiple plots of thneeds that would be harvested at different times then replanted to make sure his profits continue to come in instead of blindly harvesting every tree in a forest.
In this case, yes. But if he was cutting the trees down to make room for farmland, then he would have no reason to plant trees.
If you were to do that you would risk getting out produced by a competitor who's willing to cut down trees for short term profit therefore the capitalist free market incentive creates long term environmental problems
@sol1d gh0st
No, you don't. You have made fabulous profit in the short term, which happens to also be your career.
Long term would benefit people who follow you, but not necessarily you.
This is actually what we do. Do you think loggers just take and take with no replanting. One problem is that a lot of forest just becomes a farm and not a habitat. There are plenty of trees in the world, just not the natural kind of variety or lifespan anymore. Like how you can get an apple almost anywhere at anytime these days but only a few varieties (at most stores)
@@yawningsoldier7675 which is why you want your kids to earn
The failures of capitalism, a satire
By Dr. Seuss
But Capitalism hasn’t failed- actually it’s been doing quite well!
@@V1nce_man *Jefferson Davis pfp* yeah, I can see why you'd say that
Capitalism has been failing for years
I’d like to disagree- Capitalism is working!
@@V1nce_man any proof?
Is it me or does the Lorax remind me of a certain president of the United States
Ah, Ronald Reagan
@@timetraveler7 Even Worse
"We need regulation to get out of their way" hey we tried that at 2008, I don't remember how it went...
+Phoenix Productions doing that with cars nowadays
Don't forget the prime rate loans of used cars, thats going bang some time... mhmm wonder why can't we learn our mistakes
James Patrick the outcome was recession
*Leans into mic* Wrong. Bush added thousands of new regulations in 2008.
omegaXXIV yeah, after the recession started
You can't spell economy without no
you also cant spell it without eco. :/
Dang. Preach.
You can't spell communism without famine, disease, and oppressive authoritarianism.
smug anime face Yeah you can.
You can't spell "environmentalist" without mental
The trees can’t be harmed if the Lorax is armed
I am the Lorax, now armed with a gun.
If you harm the trees, I'll shoot you undone.
I like how the boys saying don't hurt trees when he's using a wooden sign
this was amazingly good