A10 Warthog vs SU25 Frogfoot - Flying Tank Comparison

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  • A10 Warthog vs SU25 Frogfoot - Flying Tank Comparison
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    A10 Warthog vs SU25 Frogfoot - Flying Tank Comparison
    At the height of the Cold War, the world's two superpowers created a new pair of battlefield aircraft, similar in both power and purpose. One is the America’s A10 Thunderbolt, known as warthog, and other SU25 also known as Frog-foot. Both aircraft were designed for the sole purpose of dedicated close air support. These tank busters remined highly effective in various battlefields since their inception. Today we’ll be pitting America’s A10 warthog against SU25 frog-foot in this video and try to determine which aircraft is better.
    1. Overview
    SU25 is quite a bit smaller than the A10, but has a top speed of 606mph - that is over 167mph faster than the A10. Both aircraft can carry wide array of bombs, rockets, missiles, pods and fuel tanks under their wings, but A10 can take-off with almost 7,451Ib more weapons load than its equivalent. The 30mm cannon on SU25 is significantly less impressive due to limited rounds than A10, but it still packs a killer punch. SU25 is smaller and faster, making it more difficult target. Both aircraft are heavily armored and considered safest and most feared close air support jets in the world.
    2. Performance
    A10 is powered by 2 turbofan engines generating 18,130 pounds of thrust combined. The engines allow the aircraft to reach at maximum speed of 439mph. With ferry range of 2,580mi, the aircraft has combat radius of 290mi. A10 weighs around 24,959Ib and can take-off with maximum weight of 50,000Ib. With climb rate of 6,000ft/min, the aircraft can reach at maximum altitude of 45,000ft.
    On the other hand, major driver of SU25 performance is its two engines. The engines are capable of generating around 19,860 pounds of thrust. These are meant to drive the jet to maximum speed of 606mph. With the maximum range of 620mi, the aircraft can combat within the radius of 470mi. The frog-foot weighs around 21,605Ib and can take-off with maximum weight of 42,549Ib. With climb rate of 11,400 ft/min, the jet can reach at maximum altitude of 23,000ft.
    3. Armor & Survivability
    Survivability is an essential attribute of any successful ground attack aircraft. A10 excels in this category due to its heavy armor. For example, the engines are located a bit higher on the rear fuselage…
    In contrast SU25 is comparatively smaller and faster jet, which makes it a difficult target from ground fire, however it is less of a problem for guided missiles. Frog-foot is able to reach supersonic speeds when flown clean, the airframe can withstand 6.5 Gs…
    4. Radar & Avionics
    A10 is equipped with improved communications, inertial navigation systems, night vision, fire control, weapons delivery systems and target penetration aids. The head-up display indicates air speed, altitude and dive angle on the windscreen. Pave Penny laser-tracking pods…
    Similarly, SU25 has an integral laser system for ranging, tracking and targeting with HUD designation. In terms of pods the aircraft has infrared and optical systems for both day & night time operations…
    5. Firepower
    The A10 has 11 hardpoints including 8 pylon stations under both wings, while remining 3 are fitted under the fuselage with a total payload capacity of 16,000 lb. A10 can carry up to 10 Maverick air-to-surface missiles…
    In contrast, the frog-foot is fitted with 11 hard points capable of carrying various rocket PODs, bombs and missiles. Bomb load outs include a variety of general purpose munitions, cluster bombs and other special purpose weaponry…
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  • @sue08401
    @sue08401 Před 4 lety +2480

    Answer is - Not a single grunt would want either of them firing on them

    • @armadillo3454
      @armadillo3454 Před 4 lety +37

      facts

    • @pieterniemandt1733
      @pieterniemandt1733 Před 4 lety +51

      Or an APC group. I mean would also not want to see either of them. These planes can cause maximum air to ground attacks. They are like downsized Fortress bomers. But can do more harm. Flying tanks. But l wonder what are their air to air abilities. Do they need a few F16s around when the Mig 21 or older come accross it. I'm going to look for answer right now.

    • @artmathias9725
      @artmathias9725 Před 4 lety +4

      Dammit, you beat me to it. It also happened to be the first comment under Grid 88's.

    • @pieterniemandt1733
      @pieterniemandt1733 Před 4 lety +44

      Got it. A10 is an excellent dogfighter at close range and because it turn 5 times sharper than a fighter, the fighter jet will always be staring down the barrel of a 30mm. But fighters use long range radar guided missiles that can take the A10 down.

    • @codexjerry1156
      @codexjerry1156 Před 4 lety +9

      Its hard to argue with this assessment.

  • @westsidetrucker7943
    @westsidetrucker7943 Před 4 lety +2813

    reasons to like the Frogfoot: Lots of fascinating facts
    Reasons to like the A10: BRRRRRRT WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIR

    • @glennhuinda9783
      @glennhuinda9783 Před 4 lety +12

      Frogfoot boasts on 4x4 rocket packs if the mission wants to use that kind of mod. 20 pcs 80mm rockets each packs.

    • @jetskusintrosfin8037
      @jetskusintrosfin8037 Před 4 lety +39

      @@glennhuinda9783 lol su25 no brrt
      Lol laser, tv guided weapons dependant on weather, su25 no MWS and no LWS

    • @s4dg
      @s4dg Před 4 lety +76

      Frogfoot: BUT I'M FASTER AND MORE MANEUVERABLE!
      A-10: HAHA GUN GO BRRRR--------------------------------------------------WHIIIIR

    • @jetskusintrosfin8037
      @jetskusintrosfin8037 Před 4 lety +8

      Technologial gap = su25 bad

    • @iplaygames8090
      @iplaygames8090 Před 4 lety +12

      @@jetskusintrosfin8037 i think su 25 is more advanced tbh. A 10 is like the B bombers can carry lot of munition and hard to shoot down.

  • @ChukN0rris
    @ChukN0rris Před 3 lety +477

    I think that it's safe to say that both of these are capable of absoloutely ruining anyone's day.
    The Frogfoot will do it faster, but the A-10 will do it in style.

    • @JK-uy8yi
      @JK-uy8yi Před 2 lety +15

      Going to be making a whole lot more pitstops to refuel though.

    • @benwatso
      @benwatso Před 2 lety +4

      Pretty sure that one gun run with the a10 will either kill enemy or just make them surrender in 4 seconds

    • @dysfunctionalorange
      @dysfunctionalorange Před 2 lety +18

      This is a bit late..but faster is worse when doing gun runs or using un guided munitions, you want a slow stable even approach with low stall speed, it’s almost impossible to stall out the a-10 on an attack run, however I highly doubt you could go under 200 mph in the frog foot without stalling, and most likely in the low 200s you’d lose tons of stability and maneuverability, where as the a-10 is right at home. Slower is better in cas, it’s not a fighter jet

    • @lennywallace9201
      @lennywallace9201 Před 2 lety +6

      Russia with 40 colum long line of tanks can be shredded with a10s

    • @huckleberryred472
      @huckleberryred472 Před 2 lety +10

      All that you need to know is the A10 can BRRRRRTTTTT and fly 2600 miles
      The Su can go Woosh and only fly 620 miles

  • @billthecat7536
    @billthecat7536 Před 3 lety +130

    Let's put it this way: if you've pissed off either of these pilots, you're about to have a bad day!

  • @ErnestJay88
    @ErnestJay88 Před 3 lety +2233

    in simple sentence :
    A-10 is a flying minigun, SU-25 is a flying rocket launcher.

    • @user-mc3if9xs7w
      @user-mc3if9xs7w Před 3 lety +19

      eh

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 Před 3 lety +63

      "mini"

    • @DannY-xj8ci
      @DannY-xj8ci Před 3 lety +109

      @@vanderwallstronghold8905yep there's nothing mini about the GAU 8 Avenger

    • @Pygmyz06
      @Pygmyz06 Před 3 lety +46

      @@vanderwallstronghold8905 yah technically..
      in the military (at least the US military), calling your personal firearm a “gun” is discouraged to the point that it’s practically considered blasphemy. You’re either referring to your rifle (the big firearm) or your sidearm (your small pistol) - and you’d damn well better refer to them that way, or you’ll get chewed out by practically everyone. Side note, both may also be referred to as your weapon. But never your “gun.”
      If you use the word “gun” to refer to something you’re carrying on your person, you’d better be referring to your penis.
      As far as the military is concerned, guns are mounted weapons. Aircraft and Navy ships carry guns. They’re generally very big and very heavy.
      The “mini” in “minigun” refers to the fact that it’s on the smaller end of the spectrum in comparison to other vehicle-mounted weapons - rather than being small in comparison to what civilians tend to call “guns” (small arms like rifles and pistols).

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 Před 3 lety +48

      @@Pygmyz06 Yes I know all of this but the point is that the GAU-8 Avenger is not a minigun. It's a gatling cannon.

  • @SeanCampbell_iRacing
    @SeanCampbell_iRacing Před 4 lety +2016

    Honestly, if these two planes combined
    F R O G H O G

    • @guyvalentine7258
      @guyvalentine7258 Před 4 lety +37

      That is absolutely hilarious. THANKS for the laugh.😂🤣😜👍👋🖖🇺🇸

    • @manuvirajkhare
      @manuvirajkhare Před 4 lety +73

      Yes. That's called the Unholy Spawn.

    • @soldatradev7285
      @soldatradev7285 Před 4 lety +26

      I'll die the day that comes out. There is nowhere safe then😂😂

    • @jamesvangorder9599
      @jamesvangorder9599 Před 4 lety +133

      or...WARTFOOT

    • @SeanCampbell_iRacing
      @SeanCampbell_iRacing Před 4 lety +48

      @@jamesvangorder9599i think WartFrog would work better but yeah

  • @actualyoungfarmer1078
    @actualyoungfarmer1078 Před 2 lety +217

    A10 engineers logic: “we need a gun that shoots armour penetrating rounds at a high fire rate.”
    Su25 engineers logic: “Hey comrades, have you ever thought what it would look like if the fireworks came from the sky to the ground?”

    • @TrenchReisen
      @TrenchReisen Před 2 lety +20

      Su-25 ? more like, flying Katyusha BM-8

    • @99Yeti
      @99Yeti Před 2 lety +3

      As I say again a 10 carries more rockets and has apkws

    • @John-mf6ky
      @John-mf6ky Před rokem +3

      Katyusha punching the air rn

  • @dusttruction6691
    @dusttruction6691 Před 3 lety +61

    "Here's a bulletproof bathtub and a 20 foot gun. Make it able to fly manually and make sure the gun can shoot no matter the damage" btw I want them built with either the scariest gun sound or the most relieving one

    • @SldOnEmWithDa45
      @SldOnEmWithDa45 Před 2 lety +3

      My base has a static A-10 displayed and it’s surprisingly not that big. It’s actually smaller (in length) than the F-100 displayed next to it. The wings are just long and the engines are massive, but it’s a relatively compact plane believe it or not.

  • @elo_9420
    @elo_9420 Před 4 lety +564

    Au-25: a plane with guns
    A-10: a gun with wings

    • @signa-tune2823
      @signa-tune2823 Před 3 lety +7

      Makes sense

    • @yourbigfan1777
      @yourbigfan1777 Před 3 lety +3

      Su*

    • @tboda2621
      @tboda2621 Před 3 lety +4

      @@signa-tune2823 But, can the su25 do the cobra? A Ha!!!
      There is its weakness! No airshow chick magnetism.

    • @tboda2621
      @tboda2621 Před 3 lety

      Btw, FROGFOOT?
      DAMN!

    • @BurntBalls
      @BurntBalls Před 3 lety +9

      Su 25: pew pew
      A 10: brrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

  • @moonshredder5181
    @moonshredder5181 Před 3 lety +140

    P-47D Thunderbolt: a plane for its engine
    A-10 Thunderbolt: a plane for its gun

  • @anuclearpan4554
    @anuclearpan4554 Před 2 lety +7

    "23 millimeter cannon pods" proceeds to show the su-25 deploying every weapon except for a 23mm cannon pod

  • @ofekk213
    @ofekk213 Před 2 lety +27

    the Gsh-30-2K (SU-25's gun) uses a lot of tracers and is very loud too.
    sure, A-10's brrrrt sound is a big moral boost, but SU-25's laser gun is a much bigger moral boost.
    also, the SU-25t can carry vikhr ATGMs which nullify the A-10's survivability, as if the A-10's survivability didn't mean jack shit already against SHORAD's SAMs...

    • @Deltatwo3
      @Deltatwo3 Před rokem

      A10 better

    • @yzakhd5586
      @yzakhd5586 Před rokem

      Broh a10 can carry atgms to

    • @ofekk213
      @ofekk213 Před rokem +3

      @@yzakhd5586 I meant that the Vikhrs can act both as anti-air and anti-tank. On anti-air mode they have a 10km range and a 20m trigger radius, and they are guided by laser so the A-10 can't do jack shit to fool them off as flares, chaff and ECCM do not work on laser.
      The A-10's only air-to-air weapon is the AIM-9L or whatever other variant of the sidewinder it uses. While capable, the Vikhrs outrange even the AIM-9X.

    • @yzakhd5586
      @yzakhd5586 Před rokem

      @@ofekk213 nop vikhr is only agm and can't exced mach2 and i don't think it have a longe burn so its a very bad aa missole

    • @ofekk213
      @ofekk213 Před rokem +1

      @@yzakhd5586 It has an air-to-air mode.

  • @loafofcheese3335
    @loafofcheese3335 Před 3 lety +1022

    Frog foot pilots: Yeah my plane is fast and has a lot of ways to kill my targets
    A-10 pilots: hehe plane *BRRRRRRRRT*

  • @Blido
    @Blido Před 4 lety +1584

    Hearing the BRRRRRRRT is a huge morale booster. So I would rather be supported by A-10 :)

    • @varunkoganti9067
      @varunkoganti9067 Před 4 lety +58

      You don't know about the gun pods on the su 25 do you? They're auto tracking.

    • @bradleytruax4255
      @bradleytruax4255 Před 4 lety +88

      The A-10 all day everyday

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 Před 4 lety +52

      You prefer an A-10. Then buy one.The frog is faster, can get to you when that A-10 can't reach you, and let's bet it is a lot cheaper. Talking about cheaper, are you into shooting? Have you ever received the bill for 10,000 30mm rounds? Do you like paying? Is your daddy called Trump, and always paying for your mistakes? Are you a spoilt brat? Perhaps a flying .50 can save you as well, those rounds you can pay yourself. You have an expensive taste for brrrrrt. Don't get yourself into trouble! When you need an A-10, you have screwed up, yourself, you are in the wrong place. Yankee go home! Afghanistan is just one example.
      When you want brrrrrrrt, buy a drum kit and move those hands. Bet you only move a joystick? Got it? Do not worship guns, you'll get shot, one day. Worship God, the worst that can happen is you getting crucified. Just kidding. Got the message? Stay safe. And yeah, that Gattling is impressive, but so is that Russian plane. Russian airplane machine guns are famous. Ask pilots who know about them. Reliable is a key word. And all airplanes have a slightly different role, there will always be differences. When pilots really need heavier guns, there will be heavier guns, don't worry.

    • @spectre_actual6630
      @spectre_actual6630 Před 4 lety +58

      Voor Naam I don’t think he was doubting Russian planes, he was just saying he’s fond of the A-10 cuz of its main cannon (of course it’s expensive for the rounds but it’s quite reliable much like its Russian counterpart). Trust me when I say Russian planes are beautiful as I am quite the fan of the MiG series (MiG-25, 31 specifically❤️) love from Canada

    • @Blido
      @Blido Před 4 lety +79

      @@voornaam3191 Y SO SERIOUS? I'm not even from US as you assumed, I live in Poland. And altough i'm bit into shooting and I have nice arsenal of firearms (not only Americans keeps guns at home, imagine that) I don't know much about military aircraft, I just expressed that the iconic sound of the A-10 gatling gives me chills and if it would give me air support it would definitely raise my morale. That's all

  • @johnabney3530
    @johnabney3530 Před 3 lety +76

    My dad flew the A-10 when he returned from Vietnam flying the F-100 and said it was one of his favorites. When he was a squadron commander, he flew his A-10 cross country for my wedding carrying my wedding gift of heirloom silverware. I think my choice is obvious. The hard part was getting over the looks but after time it grows on you lol

    • @rodshoaf
      @rodshoaf Před 3 lety +7

      I loved the looks from the get go.. reminds of other planes like the B-15 and B-17

    • @johnabney3530
      @johnabney3530 Před 3 lety +1

      Rod, after all the sleek cool jets he flew and then he tells me the next one is called the warthog… and then I see AND it’s slow. Yeah, it took me a bit to get a custom but that gun is an absolute beast. He gave me a dummy 30 mm and it’s so much bigger than the 20mm from the F-100 which I thought was huge at the time.. That sold me lol

    • @KFLY007
      @KFLY007 Před 3 lety +1

      Damn your dad is lucky to fly A10 It would be an honor to fly one

    • @barkmark4479
      @barkmark4479 Před 2 lety +1

      A-10 was first built a full decade after the Vietnam war.

    • @iamlegion5826
      @iamlegion5826 Před 2 lety +6

      @@barkmark4479 must be why he flew it after he came home from Vietnam 🙄

  • @grantt1589
    @grantt1589 Před 3 lety +7

    The A-10s Brrt cannon sound affect alone makes it better

  • @allanbernabe5189
    @allanbernabe5189 Před 4 lety +654

    A-10 has a Transformer toy. I don't know about SU-25.

    • @coolkid7029
      @coolkid7029 Před 4 lety +12

      Aww it has 69 likes so I can't like it

    • @ajman2210
      @ajman2210 Před 4 lety +11

      Allan Bernabe If anything has a Transformer toy it’s automatically better

    • @Echo_4609
      @Echo_4609 Před 4 lety +6

      A-10 automatically better now

    • @sovetskyskaiyastrigon1750
      @sovetskyskaiyastrigon1750 Před 4 lety

      It’s and Viper,Viper is the Decepticon-Cobra aligned Decepticon and there’s the red autobot one I forgot his name

    • @whydoineedaname11
      @whydoineedaname11 Před 4 lety +3

      that's the best reason for one of them to be better than the other, but I now wish there was a Frogfoot Transformer so they would be equal-but-different again.

  • @unfunnyironypage9664
    @unfunnyironypage9664 Před 4 lety +618

    If I was in combat and needed close air support I honestly wouldn't care which one I got it from

  • @Metaretru
    @Metaretru Před 3 lety +16

    I love how cute SU25 is, like stubby fighter but pack a lot of punch lol

  • @TheMoukis
    @TheMoukis Před 3 lety +32

    The frogfoot’s gun is actually two 30mm barrels fused to one frame. Great omission.

    • @Gutenburg100
      @Gutenburg100 Před 3 lety +6

      Yea this video isn't very good. He mentions the fact the A-10 can take rounds but doesn't mention it has jamming devices and flares to fight off shoulder mounted launchers and SAMs until he gets to the armaments lol. Then goes to the SU-25 and doesn't mention shit about its survivability but mentions hkw it can defeat missiles launched at it. Then the gun omissions and such.
      Started off good with the 1 to 1 then just got worse lmao.

    • @spackle9999
      @spackle9999 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Gutenburg100 And he also says the Frogfoot is more maneuverable?! The Frogfoot handles like a pig.

    • @mnztr1
      @mnztr1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@spackle9999 How do you know that?

    • @Marktheburrito
      @Marktheburrito Před 2 lety

      @@spackle9999 With its huge armament load? Hell no, but when its load is all gone it's pretty maneuverable.

  • @frankkpowersjr8357
    @frankkpowersjr8357 Před 3 lety +367

    All I can say is that the A 10 brought my SON HOME. HE DROVE TRACKER TRAILERS CARRYING ABRAM TANKS

    • @imthatguypal_
      @imthatguypal_ Před 3 lety +43

      I would feel so safe if an A-10 was escorting me, I thank your son for his service 💪🏽

    • @brianjones8106
      @brianjones8106 Před 3 lety +17

      That same plane probably sent a lot of enemies home in pine boxes too!! Thank you for your son's service!!

    • @albertjoseph754
      @albertjoseph754 Před 3 lety +17

      I agree. As someone on the ground who was in need of close air support, the A-10 did not let us down. The same could not be said when they sent us F-16s or F-18s. Those planes fly to fast to be able to put ordnance on target at danger close.

    • @winstonbarker4009
      @winstonbarker4009 Před 3 lety +6

      I thank your son for his services and may God bless you all. Ps I truly love the A-10 warhog it's truly 2nd to none. It's like an avenging angel in the sky like no other

    • @winstonbarker4009
      @winstonbarker4009 Před 3 lety +1

      @@albertjoseph754 indeed!!

  • @mojavewanderer7719
    @mojavewanderer7719 Před 4 lety +51

    In October of 2001, I was driving on US Highway 95 in Nevada, which is just outside the boundaries of Nellis Air Force Base , and area 51. I happened to look in my rearview mirror, and there was an A10 coming up behind me. He flew about 50 feet over my truck, and the jet wash nearly shook me off the road. The whole thing took maybe 20 seconds. It scared me half to death, but it was awesome!

    • @cabourn81
      @cabourn81 Před 2 lety +4

      A money can’t buy experience! Lucky guy.

    • @Canopus68
      @Canopus68 Před 2 lety +3

      I had the same thing happen to me. I was driving a 5ton from Kuwait to Bahrain. Two A-10s came up behind us about 25 ft off the deck. It was a hair raising moment. I'm sure they were laughing all the way back to base.

  • @CaptCap25
    @CaptCap25 Před 3 lety +29

    The best thing about the A-10 is that it’s slow enough to give its targets time to piss their pants

  • @aussiegta8267
    @aussiegta8267 Před 3 lety +9

    Needs updating. A10 no longer has eth Penny, it uses a TPG, date link systems and has integrated helmet targeting.

  • @tylerjohn3414
    @tylerjohn3414 Před 4 lety +494

    Tough call. Also, there is a difference in the doctrine as well. The A-10 is designed for loitering. The Su-25 is designed to offload most of it's ordnance at once target.
    The A-10 is better at counterinsurgency. The Su-25 is better in a contested environment

    • @simonworthington-eyre3525
      @simonworthington-eyre3525 Před 4 lety +11

      Good comment!!

    • @HoLeeChit11
      @HoLeeChit11 Před 3 lety +27

      Tyler John The A10 is a gun with a plane wrapped around it, also able to carry missiles and rockets. Probably the closest thing to a flying tank.
      The SU25 is a plane with various weapons for ground support.

    • @Archangel1862
      @Archangel1862 Před 3 lety +4

      Tyler John That doesn’t make sense when the A-10 was designed to destroy Russian tank

    • @drksideofthewal
      @drksideofthewal Před 3 lety +28

      Isn't loitering the more important trait to have for an infantry support plane? Being designed to "offload most of its ordinance on one target" is more of a bomber's purview.

    • @wheeleekwazee1641
      @wheeleekwazee1641 Před 3 lety +2

      A-10 go brrrrrrrrrrt thats my argument

  • @OcotilloTom
    @OcotilloTom Před 4 lety +231

    Man how things have changed. As a machine gunner and later a platoon commander in Vietnam during my two tours in Vietnam I could expect a F-4 Phantom, A-4 Skyhawk or an occasional A-1 Sky Raider flown by the South Vietnamese as air support.
    Tom Boyte.
    Gy.Sgt. USMC, retired
    Vietnam 65-66/70-71

    • @guyvalentine7258
      @guyvalentine7258 Před 4 lety +6

      What no A-6s or A-7s. I worked on F-4s and C-130s. USAF OCT. 72-76. Udorn AB, Thailand, 6/74-6/75. F-4d's, F-4e's, RF-4c's

    • @Kainery
      @Kainery Před 4 lety +3

      How do you rate the South Vietnamese troops fighting capability, and compare it to the North and VC? I'm curious.

    • @specforged5651
      @specforged5651 Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you for your service!

    • @thevoyager87
      @thevoyager87 Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you for your service my good man!

    • @duartesimoes508
      @duartesimoes508 Před 4 lety

      Tom Boyte and so far as I read, their pilots were awesome!

  • @volhv1973
    @volhv1973 Před 3 lety +12

    SU 25 called "rook" as a bird in russian. The last model is a super rook

    • @christopherings7996
      @christopherings7996 Před 3 lety +1

      Yeah, people keep on forgetting that the Russians have their own names for their equipment. It's a trick of branding that everyone in the west uses the NATO codenames. (Which for ex eastern bloc countries, always start with F)

    • @pavelperina7629
      @pavelperina7629 Před 4 měsíci

      @@christopherings7996 In Czech Republic we called it hrábě (rake) because it's how this plane look from the front with 10 hardpoints.

  • @worldwarstopmotionstudio
    @worldwarstopmotionstudio Před 2 lety +4

    A10: I go brrrr. What do you have?
    Su25: oh, well...i go BLYATATATATATATATATATATA

    • @pjotr9507
      @pjotr9507 Před rokem +1

      it uses more missiles than its gun so it goes like KURVVVVWWWWWHHHHHA and BLYAT at an explosion lol

  • @lazersharp0262
    @lazersharp0262 Před 4 lety +237

    Didnt mention either of the aircrafts turn rates, the A10 has an insane turn rate

    • @marcschepers8144
      @marcschepers8144 Před 4 lety +10

      it did say frogfoot more agile but ive seen the a10 do insane manouvres so i really doubt that. the fast turn was incredible

    • @fpena6038
      @fpena6038 Před 4 lety +41

      It's true, the A10 is famous for it's extremely high maneuverability, which is actually factored by its low speed and large wing area (just like the highly maneuverable stunt propeller planes). The Frogfoot's increased speed, wing area, and engine type/position make it impossible for it to match the A10's maneuverability.

    • @tylermoore3903
      @tylermoore3903 Před 4 lety +12

      F Pena if you’ve played dcs, a pretty accurate depiction of both as the su-25 is faster but it’s a pig in the turns it feels really heavy. The a-10 feels light although it is pretty slow it’s easier to control and more direct.

    • @specialagentoso2227
      @specialagentoso2227 Před 4 lety +9

      U don’t need to turn when ur going brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttt

    • @1FastC5ZO6
      @1FastC5ZO6 Před 4 lety +7

      @@specialagentoso2227 It's all about the brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrtttttttttttttttt. lol

  • @freyawion5337
    @freyawion5337 Před 3 lety +200

    'If you hear the BRRRT, it wasn't trying to hit you.'

    • @carlson2469
      @carlson2469 Před 3 lety +5

      If you are the target you hear the BBRRRRRT your a ghost

    • @Aegirak
      @Aegirak Před 3 lety +17

      If you’re the enemy, you won’t hear it. If you hear it you are glad you heard it.

    • @thatonebruneiankid8824
      @thatonebruneiankid8824 Před 2 lety

      If you hear the BRRRRTTT,you get blessed in two ways,
      First,you get to hear the holy BRRRRTTTT
      Second,you ain't dyin today

    • @sergeantblue6115
      @sergeantblue6115 Před 2 lety +1

      moral boost

  • @dkerr4077
    @dkerr4077 Před 2 lety +3

    Fortunately the narrator elaborated on the fact that the SU 25 is smaller, and faster. I got it finally after the first 10-12 times. So...does that mean the A10 is larger, and slower? I'm so confused.

    • @wyvrusgriffion3948
      @wyvrusgriffion3948 Před rokem

      I think everyone knew it's is slower but it compensate with defense, maneuverability, and endurance. The Frogfoot is a sprint runner light and fast while the Warthog is a marathon runner.

  • @samcdonald888
    @samcdonald888 Před 3 lety +6

    I would say development of each plane clearly had different design approaches. BUT…both achieved the same goal and I’d wager they are equally effective in their mission. The difference would come down to pilot skill and training methodology. Even in that regard I would wager they are equals.

  • @alniedrich1245
    @alniedrich1245 Před 3 lety +177

    Interesting video. That titanium "bathtub" that protects the pilot can actually withstand a 57mm round. The canopy can take a 23mm.
    Having worked on the A-10 for 8+ years in Alaska and England, I would point out the Warthog is far more maneuverable than most people give it credit for. When I loaded the A-10 it could only carry the AGM-65 on stations 3&9. We used the LAU-117 single rail launcher. The triple LAU-88 was loaded in a slant 2 configuration as the rail nearest the wheel well if loaded could do damage when fired (per the USAF). When I first loaded the A-10 we did load all three rails on the -88. In England the LAU-117 was the go to configuration. Note, I worked on the "A" model only.

    • @catosicarius9047
      @catosicarius9047 Před 3 lety +1

      Awesome stuff I hope it's true

    • @alniedrich1245
      @alniedrich1245 Před 3 lety +9

      @@catosicarius9047
      Very true indeed. Weapons wise I am very well versed on the Warthog. I hold two modest distinctions of loading the first live AGM-65 on an Alaskan Air Command A-10 and being the first USAFE weapons crew chief to be qualified on the AIM-9 on this jet.

    • @randybaumery8399
      @randybaumery8399 Před 3 lety +2

      Al Niedrich --- We had them at Davis Monthan AFB Tucson Arizona. They are EXCELLENT ground attack and close air support aircraft. I would imagine its safe to say that both the Warthhog and the SU-25 excel at ground attack roles and in different ways.

    • @clanwaddell5628
      @clanwaddell5628 Před 2 lety +2

      As a civilian, I have always marveled at the A - 10

    • @brianjohnson9456
      @brianjohnson9456 Před 2 lety +1

      @@clanwaddell5628 me too! Love the WartHog!!🎯

  • @hourdebass7916
    @hourdebass7916 Před 3 lety +441

    Pentagon: "NO! YOU CAN'T JUST KEEP FLYING AN OLD ATTACK PLANE! YOU HAVE TO HAVE STEALTH! YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DOGFIGHT!"
    Air Force: "Lol, A-10 Warthog go Brrrt."

    • @sea.biscuit
      @sea.biscuit Před 3 lety +19

      Lmao when obama tried to stop a10s

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 Před 3 lety +8

      A10: *hysterical BRRRT'ing*

    • @thomasbessis2809
      @thomasbessis2809 Před 3 lety +39

      It's the opposite, the air force will try anything to get rid of the A-10, the government wants to keep them in service.

    • @sea.biscuit
      @sea.biscuit Před 3 lety +9

      @@thomasbessis2809 now that's the case because trump is in office but obama really wanted them gone. also the air force doesnt want to get rid of them lol idk where you got that idea

    • @deanarupe73
      @deanarupe73 Před 3 lety +23

      @@sea.biscuit Lockheed Martin are the ones wanting to get rid of it. They were proposing a special f35 version to replace the a-10 with. So it's about money government contracts. The a-10 can be made for cheep. It's all about the💰

  • @harryhorn5282
    @harryhorn5282 Před 2 lety +6

    I worked on the A - 10 in the late 70s at Myrtle Beach AFB & later at Bentwaters RAFB in the U K. The one thing I hope that has been improved is the ammo belt. It was made of pure aluminum & broke easily. That would not be good in a combat situation.

  • @mmgross144
    @mmgross144 Před 3 lety +33

    Speaking as a former A-7 Corsair jet engine mechanic, I recall tales of Russian troops fearing the Warthog, calling it the Devil Cross. Honestly, before viewing this video I had never heard of the Su-25 Frogfoot, but it does sound impressive. I think the A-10's better weapons, flying ceiling, and armor give it the advantage.

    • @Larez121
      @Larez121 Před 3 lety +1

      In Tom Clancy's i-Red Storm Rising-i the Soviets dreaded the Warthog and called it yup "Devil's Cross"

    • @elzorro7of9
      @elzorro7of9 Před 2 lety +11

      You were a US mechanic and never heard of the Frogfoot? Maybe you fell asleep during that class.

    • @matejbenko8268
      @matejbenko8268 Před 2 lety +5

      Nice fairy tale

    • @godra051
      @godra051 Před 2 lety +1

      You didn't hear because Russia is not continuously in a war for 2 centuries and they didn't go in so many countries, started so many wars and killing 10s of millions of people, mostly innocent.
      In Vietnam alone over 2mil civillians killed.

    • @ghostpatriot2370
      @ghostpatriot2370 Před 2 lety

      @@godra051 your point?

  • @conduit64
    @conduit64 Před 3 lety +299

    Frogfoot: "I'm faster and more maneuverable"
    Warthog: "Who needs to worry about missiles when you can still safely fly home with only half a plane"

    • @Capone80
      @Capone80 Před 3 lety +10

      a true story

    • @GokuBlackThatIsBlack
      @GokuBlackThatIsBlack Před 3 lety +38

      *A10 engines are shot to shit*
      Pilot: Just one more run.

    • @ComasGhost
      @ComasGhost Před 3 lety +3

      Wut?

    • @user-mc3if9xs7w
      @user-mc3if9xs7w Před 3 lety +17

      @@ComasGhost a10 can take a lot of shots, possibly shells and still fly back to base pretty much fine. The pilot is also sitting in a giant tub of titanium

    • @ComasGhost
      @ComasGhost Před 3 lety +13

      @@user-mc3if9xs7w And who said not? But even in this point (survival) SU 25 is better becuase is faster and smaller making it a difficult target

  • @raistlarn
    @raistlarn Před 4 lety +116

    A-10: You may be faster than me, but I have the high ground.

    • @popoju9
      @popoju9 Před 4 lety +7

      he said the SU25 climbs way faster. i was like, "yeah but what's the use, you have a low ceiling. do you just want to get there faster and then what....."

    • @michaeljohnmorales7613
      @michaeljohnmorales7613 Před 4 lety +5

      @@popoju9 climbs faster = Kills A10 faster

    • @raistlarn
      @raistlarn Před 4 lety +8

      @@michaeljohnmorales7613 a10 starts higher, and commands the battle. Seriously though I highly doubt we would see these 2 ever fight unless some stupid leaders were to get into a wa...er....well hopefully they won't have to fight anytime soon.

    • @dziolex2190
      @dziolex2190 Před 4 lety +20

      @@michaeljohnmorales7613 you do realise that these are close air support planes, they are there to destroy land vehicles not air vehicles so your comment doesn't have a logical point

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Před 4 lety +1

      @@michaeljohnmorales7613 these planes would never fight each other

  • @talonmc1999
    @talonmc1999 Před 3 lety +17

    They missed a Big part in a real comparison. The reliability and the ease of getting parts

    • @ErickMarcelloni
      @ErickMarcelloni Před 3 lety +5

      Russian engineering all the way. Cheaper, realiable and effective

    • @richardsears4665
      @richardsears4665 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ErickMarcelloni Sorry noone can hear you from the fourth generation

    • @dabulls1g
      @dabulls1g Před 3 lety

      @@ErickMarcelloni lol usaf engineering isn’t reliable/effective? We’re not comparing china and russia you dork.

  • @liamfalvey5142
    @liamfalvey5142 Před rokem +12

    So, basically, the SU-25 is a jet made for highly effective CAS, while the A-Is basically a flying tank made for highly effective CAS.
    So the TLDR is:
    Both. Both is good

  • @shullln
    @shullln Před 3 lety +117

    For a CAS airframe, stall speed is the more important number than top speed.

    • @notgonnaduit6315
      @notgonnaduit6315 Před 3 lety +13

      Yup the high ceiling is just a perk loiter time is key.

    • @PotatoeJoe69
      @PotatoeJoe69 Před 2 lety +19

      Indeed, the slower you can go, the longer you can get rounds on target. The A-10 can pull turns at speeds as low as 180 knots. If a SU-25 tried to turn at that speed, it would fall out of the sky like a rock.

    • @iphoneupdate
      @iphoneupdate Před 2 lety +4

      Not stall speed but high angle of attack capability, an aircraft can stall at any speed but will always stall at the same angle of attack depending on configuration. Reason I prefer the A-10 any day all day.

    • @TheBucketSkill
      @TheBucketSkill Před 2 lety +12

      @@iphoneupdate The way we use A-10 in the middle east vs there SU-25 in Ukraine... I will admit it makes A-10 look like were basically just toying with insurgents. Like playing with food, we just want to hear and see 30mm cannon spin. SU-25 seems to attack like I imagined a ground attack jet is supposed to. It's can slow a down a bit to really take a dump on them and they unload there payloads and use rockets if necessary. It just seems much more effective a way to conduct ground attack. Flying around in circles with the A-10 just for you to be able to fire on target for a few seconds... it's just not as impressive. Plus 99% of times it was used on Taliban. Insurgents with clothes and a rifle. We just buy into our propaganda a bit (it's harmless tbh)

    • @hemendraravi4787
      @hemendraravi4787 Před rokem +2

      @@PotatoeJoe69 yea but when u got enemies with stingers/shooting at u ,u won't even plan on using ur guns ,maybe for 1 quick pass other than that nope

  • @supratiksaha2001
    @supratiksaha2001 Před 3 lety +277

    Grandpa Stuka is proud of both of them.

    • @maxfreedom1710
      @maxfreedom1710 Před 3 lety +18

      it's a shame the good guys lost that war

    • @trololoev
      @trololoev Před 3 lety +24

      @@maxfreedom1710 yea, they can make bunch of soap out of your grandmother.
      Also IL-2 better.

    • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
      @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Před 3 lety +21

      @@trololoev They were different aircraft. The IL-2 was a TRUE close support aircraft. The Stuka was a dive bomber.

    • @trololoev
      @trololoev Před 3 lety +13

      @@CRAZYHORSE19682003 i mean il-2 better as representation "grandfather" of this two planes

    • @mojo5148
      @mojo5148 Před 3 lety +13

      @@trololoev Well, Hans Rudel helped in the development of the a10 after flying a Stuka "kanonenvogel" (Stuka with dual 3.7cm At cannons) in ww2. So the Stuka is kinda the grandpa of the A10.

  • @ManuelGarcia-ww7gj
    @ManuelGarcia-ww7gj Před 3 lety +6

    The two aircraft are pretty much a match.

  • @Nickgames1985
    @Nickgames1985 Před 2 lety +7

    The frogfoot has over twice as much titanium protective armament.

    • @jackholman5008
      @jackholman5008 Před 2 lety +2

      It ate a manpad

    • @lord_hades8210
      @lord_hades8210 Před rokem

      @@jackholman5008 And? having titanium does not makes you unbeatable, if you shoot to the A10 with manpand will eat it too, think

    • @jackholman5008
      @jackholman5008 Před rokem +1

      @@lord_hades8210 you think it ate a manpad in a special circumstance and not saying its invisible,i know you hate russia no need to be childish about it

    • @lord_hades8210
      @lord_hades8210 Před rokem

      @@jackholman5008 No, i dont hate Russia, I love that country, but i think that i havent said anything childish, only saying what i think is the real case.

  • @thegreatobiwan9844
    @thegreatobiwan9844 Před 4 lety +728

    Let’s all be honest
    We all like the A-10
    I don’t need a answer I already know why
    BRRRRRRRRRT

  • @canbrit4621
    @canbrit4621 Před 4 lety +669

    Both have the armoured cockpit... vid makes it sound like only the A10 has it

    • @longstrong232
      @longstrong232 Před 4 lety +6

      True

    • @bestamerica
      @bestamerica Před 4 lety +9

      hi C...
      '
      yes look like...
      not sound...
      A-10 is better than cheap su-25

    • @zaho87
      @zaho87 Před 4 lety +107

      @@bestamerica They both have their own set of advantages and disadvantages when compared to one another. In a direct fight, the Su-25 has a better anti-air capability. But these planes are not designed for dogfights, close air support is their purpose. Ultimately, both aircraft are equally well suited for their role and are combat proven as reliable and deadly machines. The only way to determine which aircraft is better than the other depends entirely on the skills of the individual pilots in doing their job.

    • @laa0fa502
      @laa0fa502 Před 4 lety +85

      @@bestamerica I hope you know being cheap is actually an advantage

    • @dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617
      @dominatorandwhocaresanyway9617 Před 4 lety +34

      @@bestamerica yeah but you can get 2 SU-25s for the price of 1 warthog, they can take off a field, and get the job done.
      also a veteran pilot in ww2 P-47 thunderbolt can probly strike more targets than anew pilot with modern jet

  • @drewmcpheeters3424
    @drewmcpheeters3424 Před 2 lety +2

    "And sophisticated attack systems which allows for more precise targeting" (as the video shows a strike missing the target)

  • @gz_insurgent1767
    @gz_insurgent1767 Před 2 lety +17

    Fun fact: The Mig-27 had a fast rpm than the A-10 with it being literally strapped on the bottom and it would literally rip it apart when it fired.

    • @quik478
      @quik478 Před 2 lety +3

      Honestly man despite having shorter barrels and shorter casings for the shells GSh-6-30 is still absolutely fucking insane and to this day is used on ships

    • @99Yeti
      @99Yeti Před 2 lety

      It did t have a bigger round tho or ap

  • @matsudaindustries2530
    @matsudaindustries2530 Před 4 lety +223

    Should include price and operating costs as well

    • @alexwilliams1687
      @alexwilliams1687 Před 4 lety +7

      @@ACoolRodentia A-10 is literally designed only for supporting ground troops in broken arrow situations and other combat operations. They may have to change parts but the plane can still make it back safely to continue missions

    • @quasimotto8653
      @quasimotto8653 Před 4 lety +18

      Yes, to a certain extent, but "price" and "operating costs" are relative terms. In other words, the SU-25 may be half the price of the A-10, but I can assure you, the US can much more easily "scrape together" $50 billion to build a new fleet of A-10s than Russia would be able to put $25 billion to build a new fleet of SU-25s. And the US has such a massive, experienced industrial complex (military and otherwise), that the US could easily have 500 new A-10s combat ready before Russia could have 200 SU-25s ready.

    • @alexwilliams1687
      @alexwilliams1687 Před 4 lety

      @@quasimotto8653 you do realize that F-22's can attack from anywhere right?

    • @quasimotto8653
      @quasimotto8653 Před 4 lety +14

      @@alexwilliams1687 Not sure what in my statement makes you bring up the F-22....did you accidentally put your comment in the wrong thread?
      I am somewhat aware of the prowess of the F-22 but the A-10 is a very specialized type of combat aircraft; one of the reasons it's so effective at CAS is that it can fly at relatively slow speeds. An F-22 cannot do that; it was not meant to.
      Small piece of trivia: I've actually put my HAND on a real F-22 while working as an IT contractor in the Lockheed Martin facility in Fort Worth, Texas in the late 90s.

    • @JacobVahrSvenningsen
      @JacobVahrSvenningsen Před 4 lety +5

      Exactly. The cost of operating is always the first choice when deciding to buy a tool of war
      Including the logistics chain
      Here I believe the frog foot has a smaller, well... logistics footprint and lowest cost of first piece of ordinance in the battle theatre

  • @vixxivix7992
    @vixxivix7992 Před 3 lety +37

    Yo this new minigun is awesome it even come with a jet attached

  • @Desertduleler_88
    @Desertduleler_88 Před 2 lety +17

    I admire the A10 for it’s cannon and ordinance capacity, but l prefer the Su25 for it’s speed and small signature footprint.

    • @j.g.beasley2646
      @j.g.beasley2646 Před 2 lety +1

      Ain't no point in running fast when you only gonna die tired. So I'm all the way Guardian Angel A-10 Thunderbolt.

    • @Nothing....
      @Nothing.... Před 2 lety +1

      @@j.g.beasley2646 no hate for a10 tho
      just want to give more vibes

    • @pranotiduttas2153
      @pranotiduttas2153 Před rokem

      @@j.g.beasley2646 ur both wrong the correct choice is the po-2

  • @garyhughes9649
    @garyhughes9649 Před 2 lety +1

    I would really like to see a comparison of the new improved warthog up against the Frog foot especially with speed and rate of climb and how much weight the plane can carry

  • @oddlygamers
    @oddlygamers Před 3 lety +178

    I’d rather have a whole animal than just the foot

    • @waynereloaded87
      @waynereloaded87 Před 3 lety +7

      its the nato code name. Obviously russians dont call it that

    • @oddlygamers
      @oddlygamers Před 3 lety +14

      @@waynereloaded87 it’s a joke

    • @sommerrachelle8369
      @sommerrachelle8369 Před 3 lety +2

      I see what u did there!

    • @redacted2713
      @redacted2713 Před 3 lety +2

      I believe the russian call it "Crow" or something like that

    • @notalexzander2
      @notalexzander2 Před 3 lety +7

      @@redacted2713 the russian name for the Su-25 is Grach, which means Rook (as in the bird). you were pretty close there.

  • @burebistta1923
    @burebistta1923 Před 3 lety +281

    the whole comment section: lol screw performance I only care about the gun

    • @zippyparakeet1074
      @zippyparakeet1074 Před 3 lety +30

      In my view, the A-10 is better at counter-insurgency but, in a real war, the Su-25 would be more useful

    • @cristobalalvarez5491
      @cristobalalvarez5491 Před 3 lety +2

      Help me get to 5000 subs without a single video actually the su-25 has a lower range than the a-10 it has 5 times the range

    • @zippyparakeet1074
      @zippyparakeet1074 Před 3 lety

      @@cristobalalvarez5491 I think that range can be extended with mid-air refueling

    • @deanarupe73
      @deanarupe73 Před 3 lety +13

      @@zippyparakeet1074 But the a-10 has already seen it's fair share of battle and it's still being used. So it's fair to say it's more than proven it's battle prowess.

    • @cristobalalvarez5491
      @cristobalalvarez5491 Před 3 lety

      @Hot Dog yes to perform high altitude strikes if needed

  • @tammyhenson7295
    @tammyhenson7295 Před 3 lety +2

    Fun fact: Most, if not all A10's didnt have any night vision during the first Gulf War...the pilots had to use head mounted NVD's or the TV relay from their Mavrick missiles.

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation Před 2 lety +1

    We will find out soon!

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 Před 4 lety +385

    Left out the very important fact one can be refueled in-flight, the other cannot.
    For that reason alone, I'm picking the A-10 Warthog.

    • @bestamerica
      @bestamerica Před 4 lety +5

      hi T...
      '
      yeaa that right A-10 is better than ussr cheap low su-25

    • @daerth_4433
      @daerth_4433 Před 4 lety +15

      @@bestamerica i mean A10 is famos and good for A10 but if SU25 can kill him in dog fight. But A10 is better for destroying armored threats.SU is better for fast supporg A10 is good for pushing up or defeniding,but he needs to be in air arledy
      Sorry for my english guys:(

    • @reverie314
      @reverie314 Před 4 lety +13

      @@daerth_4433 youre kind of spitting bullshit at this point, how the fuck does a AIR SUPPORT JET, *DEFEND* or as you said "push up"? explain that. I'm more of a Russian stuff guy but you're honestly saying very dumb stuff
      SU-25s are also good at destroying armored targets...

    • @jnel8630
      @jnel8630 Před 4 lety +4

      @@daerth_4433 tell me this why would a close air support aircraft be engaged in dog fighting? Haha maybe in like some back water country you'd see it but I guarantee you if the A10 was getting buzzed by another plane an F(16,18,22,or 35) would shoot that thing out of the sky so fast! Haha there's not really any point in having it as air support

    • @gueigudze1759
      @gueigudze1759 Před 4 lety +11

      You are saying that fuel is the most important. For ground attack planes the payload is. If A-10 could be RELOADED not refueled in the air this is much more useful. Or you will need more than a 6-hours flight to get to the battlefield. Just imagine the condition of the pilot after 6 hours flight how he will react is he tired? Good luck stay safe.

  • @aeronaut1906
    @aeronaut1906 Před 3 lety +73

    6:24
    "more precise targeting"
    *misses by 100ft*

    • @vanderwallstronghold8905
      @vanderwallstronghold8905 Před 3 lety +8

      Precise, yes. Accurate, no.

    • @random-b-i2480
      @random-b-i2480 Před 3 lety +2

      I can see that you're making "hate" comment right there
      We're not in a fight saying my thing is better, he's just comparing
      Lmao these kids

    • @james9242
      @james9242 Před 3 lety +5

      @@random-b-i2480 what the fuck? He wasn't making a hate comment on the warthog

    • @chemislife
      @chemislife Před 3 lety +1

      To be fair they never stated what they where using as the base line for saying it had better targeting.

    • @aeronaut1906
      @aeronaut1906 Před 3 lety +3

      @@random-b-i2480 how is that a hate comment? its a joke

  • @mikeporter76470
    @mikeporter76470 Před 3 lety +6

    "Allow for more precise firing" gunner missed the target.

  • @astonmartin8dude832
    @astonmartin8dude832 Před 2 lety

    Appears that both provide lethal ground support roles. Obviously it would be nice if newer versions of the A-10 would “goose” it’s top end speed and be more effective against heavy armor. However, when it came down to a “one-on-one” contest I suspect, as with many systems, it would ultimately come down to the training and skill of the pilot. Amazing how often this latter factor is the deciding factor in survivability.

  • @Logarithm906
    @Logarithm906 Před 4 lety +287

    6:22 which allows for more precise targetting. *shows a strafe where all the shots miss*

    • @xxxxxx5868
      @xxxxxx5868 Před 3 lety +29

      I think that's a user error, not the fault of the aircraft. You can see that the actual grouping of the shots are very accurate.

    • @figurativeride2258
      @figurativeride2258 Před 3 lety +4

      Id say human error,5/6 ordinence were precise but they were aimed badly

    • @shellwermir
      @shellwermir Před 3 lety +4

      shots where done from another sight, flight time - several seconds, unguided missles. while plane moving . This camera in position to confirm hits, not to guide.

    • @csme07
      @csme07 Před 3 lety

      It wouldn’t matter honestly for soft targets and heavy ones would be taken out with ATGM’s

    • @stankygeorge
      @stankygeorge Před 3 lety +2

      You noticed that too!

  • @armadillo3454
    @armadillo3454 Před 4 lety +199

    Going to say A-10. Reasons: most missiles these days can go well above and beyond 6.5 G tolerance making all that agility next to worthless. Another reason is that the A-10 can hold chaff and flares as well and has quite a lot of it which the video made it seem like it had none. Finally the last reason which was NOT touched on was attack angle the A-10 can come down much higher than the frog foot and recover much more easily thanks to the shape of its tail which provides more stability at lower speed and altitude that the typical tail of most planes.

    • @joebama5504
      @joebama5504 Před 4 lety +6

      Obviously both planes carry flares and chaff. Which plane pulls harder from a dive all depends on weight of each airplane and the speed each plane is going at. I feel that you need a controlled experiment to figure that out. In which both planes dive at the same alt and pull up from the same alt while having the same weight. Also any plane can dive down at any AOA the frog foot is faster since it has a after burner and sloped wings but that probably makes it harder to pull up since your going faster( just assuming) so i would think that the slower u go the easier it is too pull up making the a-10 better at that.

    • @jimmieburleigh9549
      @jimmieburleigh9549 Před 4 lety +19

      A10 can also loiter at lower speed for better ground force protection

    • @joebama5504
      @joebama5504 Před 4 lety +3

      @@jimmieburleigh9549 also shorter time between attacks since you dont need to do such a big turn

    • @markroberts3363
      @markroberts3363 Před 4 lety +7

      I'd be worried if my anti air missile only had 6.5G tolerance, 60's missiles could have up to 30G

    • @mhamma6560
      @mhamma6560 Před 4 lety +6

      @@joebama5504 A10 hands down is the best CAS platform ever built. The AF is trying to retire it too. A10 is far more maneuverable at slow speeds and has no analog in that realm. The tails being able to utilize the the thrust the way they are allows for some crazy slow bank angles when down low. The 2 may have been built for the same task, but the A10 doesn't have an equal in getting down low and laying waste to ground targets. Its 30mm gun also has no analog on any aircraft -- hell there's no ground based 30mm that come close to it.

  • @RenshiErmine
    @RenshiErmine Před 3 lety +1

    I feel that a deciding factor is also price. If you can field two planes for the price of one it changes the dynamic greatly.

  • @nadtz
    @nadtz Před 3 lety +1

    These planes both do what they were designed to do so better is kinda relative. It's also worth noting the frogfoot can take off from much rougher ground which is part of the reason it's smaller and lighter.

  • @hanssolo3215
    @hanssolo3215 Před 3 lety +32

    the A10 cannon is an ineffective weapon against armored vehicles?? Um thats wrong

    • @dang0s804
      @dang0s804 Před 3 lety +1

      Nope, it's actually right, he's talking about tanks.

    • @lunatic_nebula9542
      @lunatic_nebula9542 Před 3 lety +2

      Nope he is right

    • @SilverShamrockNovelties
      @SilverShamrockNovelties Před 3 lety +8

      The A-10 has 11 hardpoints that carry Bombs, Rockets, and AGMs, so it can kill tanks just as well as anything else in the air. The difference between the two is the A-10 can save its missiles for “tanks” and use the gun to destroy everything else, up to and including any other armored fighting vehicle.

    • @troyezell5841
      @troyezell5841 Před 3 lety +5

      Depends on the tank. Sadam's tanks did not fare well against A-10 strafing runs. Modern tanks utilize ceramics and other materials that deplete the energy of the 30mm enough to protect the tank from penetration. However, if the A-10 only has 30mm ammo left, the tanks armor is only going to last maybe 2 go around at most. Nevertheless it's war, therefore you don't waist opportunities on chances, you go for the jugular sooner than later.

    • @zhufortheimpaler4041
      @zhufortheimpaler4041 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SilverShamrockNovelties well, the SU25 can use its 30mm for the same task. both guns are not able to penetrate modern MBT since the 80´s, for IFV, APC, etc it is more than enough, only in recent years IFV and APC are getting armor protection able to defeat 30mm cannon ammunition in the frontal arc and those are in most cases modern western IFV and APC like Puma and Boxer

  • @davidbeattie4294
    @davidbeattie4294 Před 3 lety +32

    I have a GAU-8A training round sitting on my desktop. I'm pretty sure I would prefer to have 1350 of the live rounds flying over my head to keep the bad guys away. To say nothing of a vast assortment of battle tested missiles and precision guided bombs all tied to an incredibly tough air-frame. Make mine an A-10.

    • @mnztr1
      @mnztr1 Před 2 lety +1

      Which one can get there faster and have ordinance on the enemy faster when you are in the *hit?

    • @iamlegion5826
      @iamlegion5826 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mnztr1 the one that was called , prepped and lifted off first ... After that it's all about hang time

    • @Salty_Balls
      @Salty_Balls Před 2 lety

      I have a 30mm round on my dresser that my dad got years before I was born. It's brownish, with a silver nose cone that's been flattened somewhat, and weighs about 9 ounces. It has a ring around it at the base, I think it was to engage the rifling lands, that looks like a softer metal like brass or copper. Does this sound like the same round you have? I've never found an exact match to this on Google images.

  • @wittwer427
    @wittwer427 Před 2 lety +9

    One thing you didn’t mention is how the a 10 can effectively be flown much slower which might seem like a disadvantage until you realize how much more time it allows a pilot to focus on and stay aimed at targets on a strafing run. If you’re going for the element of surprise an a 10 can strike potentially multiple targets on one run then bug out before the ground targets have an opportunity to counter strike.

    • @99Yeti
      @99Yeti Před 2 lety +1

      By the way it will just use its data link with jascos on the ground or a laser marker and not have to line up at all

    • @greenspiraldragon
      @greenspiraldragon Před rokem +8

      Mistaken assumption that since the Su25 flies faster that it stalls faster. Stall speed is 90 knots which translates to 103 mph and the A10 stalls at 138mph so the SU25 can actually stay on target even more than the A10.

  • @dwood4453
    @dwood4453 Před 3 lety +5

    A 10 most definitely. Even if shot up it most likely to bring you home with all the back up systems.

  • @cleopatravii2385
    @cleopatravii2385 Před 3 lety +48

    The amount of 5 star generals and military technology experts in the comment section is truly fascinating😑

    • @johnnytarerio3186
      @johnnytarerio3186 Před 3 lety +2

      It doesn't take that much to be able to say which aircraft are better at what when you have statistics and facts about the aircraft in question.

    • @wdaswwqads
      @wdaswwqads Před 3 lety

      @@johnnytarerio3186 you can't say shit because both sides spread propaganda how better they are than the other

    • @johnnytarerio3186
      @johnnytarerio3186 Před 3 lety

      @@wdaswwqads Yeah but they literally do demonstrations and show off their capabilities to the public, and aircraft like the A-10 are used and seen a lot by everyone from air force to infantry. Obviously with things like absolute top speed they could up or downplay them by small amounts but with top speeds that low do you really think they're bumping them up in this case?

  • @notalpharius3861
    @notalpharius3861 Před 3 lety +41

    SU-25: I have a ton of Missiles and fast engine
    A-10: I have a Flying Gun.

    • @WilluOrNot
      @WilluOrNot Před 2 lety +1

      Correction: I AM a Flying Gun!

  • @hernantuquero5969
    @hernantuquero5969 Před 2 lety

    I’ve watched a video from the golf war of 1991 of an A-10 Warthog having one of its wing blown up and still manages to get back to base. 😁

  • @Economics365
    @Economics365 Před 2 lety

    Nice

  • @ronaldmartinsr4433
    @ronaldmartinsr4433 Před 4 lety +29

    The one that can stay on scene the longest time to cover troops is the one the infantry prefers, armament means a lot for a pilot to choose from due to its mission, refueling in air is a plus but not if it's out of ammo!

    • @idontknowanygoodnames1498
      @idontknowanygoodnames1498 Před 3 lety

      when you say stay on the scene the longest i hope you don't mean on continuous runs, because that isn't what the su-25 is for, but if you mean the amount of time they can sit and wait for a command then yeah sure, it matters a fair amount, although most runs are planned or have ample time to get from a airbase.

  • @HappyBacon777ttv
    @HappyBacon777ttv Před 4 lety +103

    They both fulfill the roles that their countries want them to.
    Personally though, I would pick the A-10. If I want a CAS aircraft, I would want to pick something that can loiter for a longer period of times, while also holding more payload.

    • @schizo1382
      @schizo1382 Před 4 lety +4

      but if you have an unexpected armor on the battlefield,and you need support fast with more deadly weapons frogfoot is the what i pick,it has double the climb rate and its faster,so both aircraft have their bonuses,and for the record im not russian i just have bad english sry :/

    • @emporernanner
      @emporernanner Před 4 lety +13

      I think that difference can be chalked up to difference of doctrine, soviet doctrine was informed by the events of the great patriotic war, when air superiority could never be counted on, thus CAS planes needed to be able to get to target and get out quickly, whereas american doctrine is built on having air superiority and thus the long time on objective for CAS is seen as a positive rather factor rather than a weakness. TL:DR soviet equipment is built for fighting near peer nations, american equipment is built for Roflstomping 3rd world countries and insurgent groups.

    • @jaquigreenlees
      @jaquigreenlees Před 4 lety +9

      @@emporernanner I agree with you, but it really means the video is pointless.
      Which is better? depends on what the conditions are at the battle front.
      No air superiority? The SU25 is better.
      With air superiority, the A-10 is.
      if keeping the aircraft and pilots is a priority. ( which it is )
      For real longer time on target close air support, why not a much slower propeller driven aircraft designed and built for the job.
      With modern materials used in the design right from the start you could get an extremely agile close air support craft that can stay over the front for longer than the A-10 yet not require the air superiority it does.

    • @Jonathan-fb1kj
      @Jonathan-fb1kj Před 4 lety +3

      Around 2014ish I heard their actually doing just that, looking for a prop plane as a replacement for the A-10 CAS wise. No clue if their still going to do that though.

    • @jaquigreenlees
      @jaquigreenlees Před 4 lety

      @@Jonathan-fb1kj I think they will need to design from scratch to get what they would want. Which defeats the purpose of ending the A-10 to reduce the number of different aircraft to be supported.

  • @fylecabagnot5703
    @fylecabagnot5703 Před 2 lety +1

    A-10 "brrrrrrrrrrrt" vs. Su-25 "pffffffffft, plop plop plop!"

  • @vinrico6704
    @vinrico6704 Před 3 lety +1

    The A10 has always been my favorite... But that frogfoot is a beast too.... I really like both

  • @lukehinkle9614
    @lukehinkle9614 Před 4 lety +12

    I was stationed at Moody AFB a few months ago and loved hearing the A-10 fire its gun. It sounded like they were in my backyard! I am at Osan AB now and we have A-10s, but the firing range is too far to hear the Warthogs firing :(

  • @rich3371
    @rich3371 Před 4 lety +24

    I'll never get over the sound of that gatling gun - beauty to my ears

  • @chrissiler6075
    @chrissiler6075 Před 3 lety

    I've seen the A-10's out of Whiteman, fly in between telephone poles at 400mph. When we were on the ground, we watched an A-10 manuver on a fighter for the kill. He turned and lined the cannon on the fighter so he flew thru the fire to attach the A-10. Guess he wasn't so unprotected

  • @ZebraFacts
    @ZebraFacts Před 2 lety +2

    If it were my choice and I could have both, that is what I would do, because both have specific abilities that I don't think necessarily overlap. And I bet, the Frogfoot is much cheaper to build and to maintain.

  • @axlas318
    @axlas318 Před 3 lety +40

    Me: watching this video
    Also me: stops the video at engine sounds
    Engine sounds: *dont stops*

  • @knowplay3258
    @knowplay3258 Před 4 lety +38

    During my time overseas, I have dealt with both aircraft on occasion.
    Literally had my butt saved by a pair of A-10s...me and a squad I was responsible for at the time were ambushed...radio call and then two Hogs saved us.
    My AO saw quite a bit of, at the time, very recently acquired Soviet/Russian surplus weapons and gear. As a result, I got to observe a Rook(NATO designation: Frogfoot) or two in action.
    Both aircraft are exemplary examples of ground support and anti armor weapons platforms. Both perform the task well, each taking a slightly different approach to do so...an approach that plays to each planes strengths.
    Much in the video is made of the ability to out maneuver or out run SAMs...neither aircraft is intended to do so rather relying on electronics to negate SAMs.
    Yes, the A-10 can fly slower and has better low speed/low altitude agility and maneuverability for which Hog pilots take advantage of in how they approach attacking...low, slow, and unleash alot of ordnance...the sledgehammer approach.
    The Su-25 uses a faster, steeper approach similar to a WWII dive bomber then quickly climbs out of small arms reach...combine this with quick, flat strafing runs.

    • @knowplay3258
      @knowplay3258 Před 4 lety +5

      Both are great at what they do...they just do it differently.
      The A-10 is like an armored sledgehammer taking design cues from a WWII British Spitfire.
      The Su-25 combines a WWII dive bomber with a more modern interdiction aircraft.
      Also, much is made on both aircraft being "sitting ducks" if caught by fighter aircraft...and I beg to differ. If attacked by a superior jet, the A-10 has various defensive electronics, usually a couple of A-2-A missiles, and Hog pilots know to get low until help can get there. The Su-25 also uses defensive electronics, can carry defensive missiles(rarely), but prefers to get low, turn on it's speed, and run towards help.

    • @johnriggs3143
      @johnriggs3143 Před 2 lety +2

      I was an 11h during Desert Storm, I would much prefer to go up against the su-25, the altitude at which they fly and speed lets you see and hear them from a lot further out, unlike the A-10 which can literally be right on top of you before you realize it lol.

    • @knowplay3258
      @knowplay3258 Před 2 lety +3

      @John Riggs You can definitely hear a Frogfoot coming especially when it's pilot is using the usual steep dives to attack.
      An A-10? I know for a fact you see everything around being destroyed and splintered before you ever hear the engines or the BRRRT!! It's kinda mind-blowing to see the enemy and their cover totally destroyed before you hear anything overhead.

    • @johnriggs3143
      @johnriggs3143 Před 2 lety

      @@knowplay3258 Lol...yeah it blew my mind as well!

  • @wjdyr6261
    @wjdyr6261 Před 2 lety +1

    Both are great aircraft. I prefer A10 because I had a model of it. Plastic models back in the day were cool

  • @PGTornado
    @PGTornado Před 2 lety +2

    In March 2022 the only thing that is "terrifiing" about the SU-25 is, that it will crash into your house... when shot down 🤷

  • @Supermatmike
    @Supermatmike Před 4 lety +151

    i think that it is quite easy to pick the winner...
    one goes: BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTT
    the other does not.

    • @mehrdadtube1
      @mehrdadtube1 Před 4 lety +7

      They both go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT
      It seems you have not heard the Gryazev Shipunov fire

    • @andrewzimmer4015
      @andrewzimmer4015 Před 4 lety +5

      I mean I think it meant the one that goes BRRRRRRRRRRRT that was built around a big mfing gun

    • @Koshzor
      @Koshzor Před 4 lety +5

      Well. The other goes woosh-woosh-woosh-woosh. Wouldn't want to be at the receiving end of either of them.

    • @jorge2.049
      @jorge2.049 Před 4 lety +3

      Based on your comment, it seems you didn't even watched the video.
      Your opinion is based on the brrrrrrrrrt. Your brrrrrrrtt can't penetrate armored vehicles and it has to get dangerously close to make damage to them. Your opinion is based on the sound it makes😂

    • @Pighood
      @Pighood Před 4 lety

      ahahaaahaahaa

  • @idie2game771
    @idie2game771 Před 4 lety +19

    going with BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT here. just can't get over how amazed i was by them over in the sandbox

    • @photosbymaddog
      @photosbymaddog Před 3 lety

      I heard the Taliban had nather name for that sound "The Devil's Scream!"

  • @chrish5791
    @chrish5791 Před 3 lety +2

    The A-10 has a reputation of striking fear into the opposition on the ground. I’m not sure about the SU-25, but I am quite sure that I wouldn’t want either one firing at me!

  • @edwardferguson1072
    @edwardferguson1072 Před 3 lety

    I wonder about the loiter time of each individual aircraft. Dial back the throttle with a full load, how long can it stay in the air?

  • @WiliiamNoTell
    @WiliiamNoTell Před 4 lety +9

    Would not want to be in a tank, against either one. Great video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @multibillionair7910
    @multibillionair7910 Před 4 lety +34

    nice comparison, not bias at all and pointing out the weakness and strengths of both aircraft

  • @Artty-fl8ul
    @Artty-fl8ul Před 3 lety

    I always thought the A-10 kinda reminded me of the snow speeder from ESB.

  • @DoneDealNikhil
    @DoneDealNikhil Před 3 lety +1

    @ 1:03 The SU25 is shown landing and take-off from a dirt track...I suppose that shows its real 'battle-ready' design! Is the Warthog capable of doing this?

  • @briish85
    @briish85 Před 3 lety +125

    The A-10 wouldn’t lose it would come back with missing parts and gunshots

    • @UwUchan-kp2ok
      @UwUchan-kp2ok Před 3 lety +1

      Mostly true

    • @joeb578
      @joeb578 Před 2 lety +3

      Not from missiles

    • @Shad0hawK
      @Shad0hawK Před 2 lety +10

      @@joeb578 actually the A10 has survived missile hits.

    • @momsspaghetti9970
      @momsspaghetti9970 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Shad0hawK To be fair the A-10 was hit at a non critical area of the aircraft (shredded half of the tail, half of control surface still intact with both engines)
      It would have been a different story if it was hit by a missile fired from an aircraft or any of the medium to long range SAMs the soviets gave to the Iraqis.

    • @Shad0hawK
      @Shad0hawK Před 2 lety +7

      @@momsspaghetti9970 I worked in aviation for over a decade, I personally know no less than 3 A10 pilots.
      There is no such thing as a "non critical area" on ANY aircraft...

  • @hasyy151
    @hasyy151 Před 4 lety +108

    The A-10 is the AC-130’s child dont change my mind

    • @joelkelly169
      @joelkelly169 Před 4 lety +7

      Yup, they crossed the AC-130 with a pissed-off demon straight out of Hell to come up with the A-10

    • @theboothy91
      @theboothy91 Před 4 lety +8

      It was once said that a CRAM phalanx and a b-52 had an affair and the a-10 was born

    • @juangrnde8637
      @juangrnde8637 Před 4 lety

      *Changes mind*

    • @GunsNGames1
      @GunsNGames1 Před 4 lety +1

      @@theboothy91 that's better

    • @fennviktorvich
      @fennviktorvich Před 4 lety

      Modernised A-1

  • @1701Larry
    @1701Larry Před 3 lety +1

    OK ------------ Did you notice the F-35 optical helmet the pilot was wearing in one of the A-10 cockpit Shots. This gives the pilot 360-degree vision more than doubling the A-10s combat effectiveness. Hora!

  • @Ghastly_Grinner
    @Ghastly_Grinner Před 2 lety

    I've seen quite a few videos of the Frogfoot just shrugging off stingers

  • @auletjohnast03638
    @auletjohnast03638 Před 4 lety +32

    I GOT MY MONEY ON THE A-10 WARHOG.

  • @jtjr26
    @jtjr26 Před 3 lety +58

    Both were developed with different ground support doctrines in mind. I would say both can deliver devastating payloads to the battlefield. I do think it's a little funny that some in the USAF want to replace the A-10 with the F-35 as the main ground support platform.

    • @Midgert89
      @Midgert89 Před 2 lety +8

      Some people? Lockheed Martin you mean.

    • @jtjr26
      @jtjr26 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Midgert89 Yea, and the paid stooges in Air Force procurement.

    • @TheLakabanzaichrg
      @TheLakabanzaichrg Před 2 lety +2

      What was the idea behind the frogfoot?

    • @thelorddarthvader7264
      @thelorddarthvader7264 Před rokem +2

      @@TheLakabanzaichrg I might be 5 months late buy it seems the A-10 was meant to penetrate the armor compared the the SU25 which meant to blow the armor up. So it's killing the men inside of the vehicle vs blowing the vehicle up. I would also guess the A-10 would be more effective at killing ground (non-vehicle/armor units) targets due to the gun that it has unlike the SU25.

    • @sys3248
      @sys3248 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@thelorddarthvader7264it's not. They're inaccurate in those CAS roles where precision is demanded. Lots of reports of friendly fires and 'collateral' when it use it's gun.
      They drop GBUs and AGMs in its CAS which is now fully supplanted by Drones.

  • @einundsiebenziger5488
    @einundsiebenziger5488 Před 3 lety

    2:14 nice to give the metric tranlation for the A-10's performance data. Yet, you could have converted lbf into Newtons, also mph convert to kilometers per hour, not only kilometers.

  • @MewsHeart151
    @MewsHeart151 Před 2 lety

    My dad worked at a A-10 base I always loved this aircraft