Structured For SHTF
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I’m having trouble finding a group to begin with. I’m a retired Police Sergeant in South Eastern PA. Ran firearms training for a 34 man dept. Everybody I know thinks I’m crazy and has no interest in training or prepping. Im 55 and all banged up from different surgeries now. It’s makes me feel useless and sad that nobody wants to get ready for anything.
I am in the same place as you Sir just in upstate NY. I guess I will just have to fight and protect my wife and myself until I cant. There are a lot of us in the same position. Stay safe.
South central PA here. They are here. Good luck.
My tribe is already split into sub groups based on skills, age, gender, and capabilities. We're not all the same, we can't all do the same jobs.
Good stuff man!
I’m 44 years old very fit can shoot and mix it up - but I’m a cook and can organize supplies as well , what is best In my experience is have people that can do multiple things well . Let’s not just survive but thrive
I can respect that way more than all these over-the-hill beer belly losers who think "I served in the infantry from 84' to 88' and never deployed. I know what I'm talking about and am never wrong. IT'S WHO I AM!" These guys are living in a fantasy world.
Bill. We practice this at the home level…as a family unit. We plug in to our community, lending our Skill sets to our neighborhood. I feel that is what is missing in today’s ’society’. God, family, community. It’s a whole bunch of me-me-me-me-me-me-me-me…service/sacrifice are just words nowadays.
Good to see you back - hope all is well!
Great Lesson
And sending Prayers for Riggs
CSM Chapa
In my group I assigned myself to protect our alcohol supplies....I will drink every last drop before I ever let it fall into enemy hands....that is the sacrifice I am willing to make...good down to earth video as always
Not all heroes wear capes 🫡
Thank you good sir
Excellent POV. Most of us are Suburban dwellers. All our shit is in our homes. And NoOne should have walking out the door, with wives and children and grandchildren , wearing only backpacks, as a designated strategy. In my case I’ve chatted with most of my neighbors and NONE are runner gunners. But most have personal protection. And at least minimum defense capabilities. I know who’s a garden person. I know who’s got a pool full of water. My strategy currently is to posse up, when the time is right. In a tight timeframe my confidence SHOULD be enough to pulled 5-6 homes into a group. Once a core group’s established we could go door to door and expand. It’s far from perfect… but …
Going door to door when SHTF happens when you need a trained MAG will be like building a firetruck on the way to a fire.
My family lives in a rather remote location but not near as secluded as I want. With the exception of two neighbors almost within yelling distance our next closest neighbor is 9/10 a mile away. Building a mag is difficult but there are many vets nearby. The bad thing about that is many of us a Vietnam era vets. Running and gunning are days in the past but gunning is still a good and available quality.
I must admit, I am far from completing a complete mag and no one seems to want to leave their home so I’m attempting to develop a plan to set up roadblocks at each end of an 8 mile road with 4 dirt roads running off of it.
Communication will be a big part of plan.
Good luck to all patriots.
Back in 1980 the ratio was 9 to 1, 9 logistic personnel to 1 trigger is what we were advised.
Just ordered your book. With the videos I’ve seen from you with common sense info, I believe it will be worth it
As a former marine, I am a rifleman first and foremost. I also happen to be able to fix and work on almost anything mechanical. I will be very valuable in case of shtf.
Top, solid vid Sir. As a DA CIV, I realized I was ‘auxiliary’ from the get-go. Doesn’t mean I shouldn’t know how, I’m just not Randall fit anymore. Lol
On point Top...There's a roll for everybody who's willing👍
Always a good reality check in your videos, top. The army is screwed without men like you
The big problem with this is actually organizing your tribe into what their designation will be once anything happens. It’s difficult to get guys who don’t already have a Mil/LEO background to dedicate to any kind of structured preparedness. Oh all my guys are riflemen. Got some farmers, mechanics, a hunter, jacks of trades. But Intel gathering, recruiting/training, and logistics isn’t something anybody wants to handle for the entire tribe. I had to take TCCC classes because nobody was willing to pay attention to that aspect. I literally had a guy tell me that if he got shot just put a bullet in his head and I’m like how does that help your kid??
Food, shelter, latrines, somebody needs to wash the skivvies, protection of friends and family at home.
Between the Grandparents network and the Teenagers network, eyes and ears on everything.
I couldn't imagine ever being a POG...even if I'm crippled which I'm not, I'll still want to do what I did 20yrs ago. Semper Fi gents
To me your a POG. ME: 0321
If ya know ya know 😅😂😂
Congratulations your better and cooler than a random grunt on the internet
Without those POGs, you are a dead man.
@@gravfielddriveto a degree. Some of us are pretty resourceful
@@recon1986 looks like you don't know what a pog is. Too many crayons I guess.
There are zero. ZERO! civilian preparedness organizations with the man power to do this... we don't have the luxury to have such narrow skill sets... this structure will NEVER manifest until an event happens
Spot on here in South Africa more and more of us, (especially the minority groups) can see clearly what is on our horizon. We are also thinking and organising on these lines
@@alfanika2934 The country is on the rocks in most respects..crime and unemployment are sky high. Why dont you make a prediction
@@alfanika2934 Thirty years into "democracy" and most factions/ cultures are disatisfied. One of the worst murder and rape stats globally,
All state owned institutuons basically bankrupt/ broken. Infrustrutrure in an appaling state. Most quallified folks just want to emmigrate to some place with a future
I spent all of my time, between SSG and MSG, serving at the Bn and Bgd level NBC Staff NCO positions which means having to be a "jack of all trades" type of soldier. I retired after 23 years having been exposed to many of the other MOS's, mostly support roles.
YES!
I hear ya Top, this is a big problem right now. When the Wu Flu kicked off I found a platform/org that enabled people in my area to find each other. The platform/org went sideways and became a commercial endeavor which made myself and many others bailout.
Post bailout we had a 60 person group, the problem was it was like pulling teeth to get them together. Sure they all talked the talk, but that was it! As things normalized it went down hill, they were fine to post now and then but whenever training of any kind came up it was the old, "My wife she, my kids they, my dog it" routine... This was very frustrating for me and others who had put in many hours building training plans etc. Sure, they all wanted to run and gun, but would get pissed when I started every training day with the basics of marksmanship to build a solid foundation to work from.
So here we are, present day and the group is down to 10 people, of those 10 only 2 will commit to regular training. It's like watching a person who sees their kid drowning, yet they are too lazy to go in after them! They all talk of how worried they are, yet are not willing to make the commitment to build a MAG.
I have tried all the usual tactics to find people, go where they are and talk to them, but it seldom yields any results. Everyone is afraid of their own shadow and fears anyone who talks about it, must be a Fed!
Having spent twenty two years on active duty this mindset is very confusing to me. I taught my sons that if your situation is shit, it's your job to fix it. No one is coming to save you, or do it for you, be proactive not re-active.
So this may be my last appeal to others, if anyone resides in the West Valley of Phoenix, AZ. and actually has the desire, and motivation to improve their abilities and preparedness, roger up and let's do it.
I think one benefit of being in the military is understanding what the purpose of many modern military practices are but probably don't apply in the civilian world. You don't have to be a fit special forces commando to keep an eye on the mile area around your place. Nor do you need someone specializing in communications, logistics, and planning for your group of three dudes. When you go back long into history, they definitely didn't have 90 percent of their military specializing in other tasks
I’ve naturally acquired different friend groups in terms of capabilities and interests since my time in. Loosely based around this principle. The one interesting( to me) part is that we’re all varying degrees of blue collar generally self motivated types.
Dats right and how it works 100% with the right groups
Thanks for putting this out. Not everyone can be a gunslinger but everyone should know basic first aid, basic land nav, field craft, shooting and gun cleaning. I'm a pretty mean cook, a half ass auto mechanic, good with computers (I've been building and fixing PC's for 32 years,), and have even perfected a dye formula to make ugly UCP look more functional. I would like to get my HAM radio license, and learn how to sew with heavy cloth, nylon etc (can't find any classes for that in my area.) I also at some point want to get into making kydex sheaths and holsters.
I could probably get by with the war fighting stuff when I was much longer. I'm not a minuteman...I'm a five minute man ;-) Hope you're doing alright.
PS: People need to cross train in skills as well, so if someone goes down or is incapacitated someone else can step in, and take up the role.
Hell yeah, Top! As a logistics guy, I'm making decisions on who can accomplish what... How are we going to get chow out? Who is taking first watch? That somebody, that shows up at my camp... better have a skill set to offer. Radios, check! Internet, check! We have more basic needs in the woods. Cook! Cook! Where's my Hasenpfeffer!! 🤣
Imagine doing something once for a short period of time and pretending it's a lifestyle and who you are... My guy, if your hair got wet you would probably get shingles and die of pneumonia. If someone came into your camp, it would be their camp.
@@mattmarzula I welcome that challenge! Let's see what you got, hotshot! 🖍
I am going to have to do everything apparently as I am surrounded by zombies who think that nothing is going on. it is a little disheartening to know i am going to be surrounded by nothing but unprepared desperate people. It honestly seems like the whole country (Australia) is asleep as well based on casual conversations i have about stuff with people day to day.
@@alfanika2934 if you guessed me then you are right.
Good video.
While i do know how to fight, i also know how to grow vegetables, forage for useful plants, know wilderness first aid/stop the bleed, as well as know how to repair my own clothes; to name my top skills.
I live in the suburbs outside of NYC, and am still trying to build a MAG.
Great video sir. Thank you for sharing this.🙏🏻❤️🇺🇸
One thing I always see missing from groups or pods is seamstresses, and Shoe makers or repairmen. You might be welcoming people in or some of your group might get to your gathering location with literally nothing but the cloths on there back. How are you going to arm them, out fit them with chest rigs or mag pouches, or winter gear. Maybe you find out the gear everyone has is not suited to an environment and needs to be modified. Whats going to happen when peoples boots wear out?
Good video Bill.
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 May 2024.
Gentlemen;
Forty is a very sanifficant in Biblical Scripture.
Yeshua was in and around Jerusalem for 40 days after his Resurrection before ascending to Heaven.
Yeshua fasted and was tempted for 40 day's; Jonah preached repentance for 40 days; Goliath taunted Isreal for 40 day's; Moses was on the Mountain with Yeshua for 40 day's; Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years; it rained for 40 day's during Noah's Great Flood; from 8 April 2024 of the Solar Eclipse to 18 May 2034 is 40 days...
Some might end up slinging their gun upon themselves. We’ll find out when it comes down to that.
Being Stoked is one thing, Being Structured is everything.
The interesting thing about all these discussions is it is all theory based on fantasy. Generally speaking. Does anyone have any real world examples of “preparedness teams” even existing in the variety everyone talks about and being employed in the real world in anything remotely close to the wet dreams folks have?
In my experience there’s plenty of people wanting to be a part of something. They want the experience. Man camp. But no one wants to actually train or become proficient in any area.
PT and basic hard skill proficiency has been a litmus test, on macro in the “movement.” And probably 3% of the mythical 3% even has it, let alone accountability to their “group.”
The survival group in most cases is nothing but a myth. If someone can’t even show performances increases or baseline standards in the hard skills after half a decade, or they can’t show up to “train” when times are relatively GREAT, does anyone really think they’ll show up and put their life on the line for you when it matters?
Respectfully, I disagree sir.
Theory implies a solution to a problem with facts that are not always fully understood.
In the case of Preppers it is more accurate to see the "problem" as a clear historical trend with verifiable facts that impacted each situation.
So, less theory ( I think this might happen) and more clear factual analysis (when A happens, B follows).
With that said, there is some merit to your concern as to people approaching the situation from the vantage point of fantasy.
To this last point I will mention that there has been unprecedented peace in our country. Thus has led to a shortage of people with real world experience dealing with similar threats to our safety.
There are however a few who posses this needed experience; Veterans. They most certainly are accountable.
They also "train" regularly. Though they probably call it something different.
Perhaps it's Saturday Night Poker followed by Sunday Church? That's networking, team building, and community development.
Perhaps it is offering to cut down a tree for an elderly friend? That's testing and maintaining heavy equipment that will be needed for recovery after a disaster.
Sometimes it's cutting wood? That's stockpiling fuel in case the grid goes down.
Other times it's a deer hunt? That's when we teach others to zero rifles/scopes, and the skills to put those tools into use.
There are a hundred other examples.
If you are not seeing these things, we'll you might need to reach out to a few more of your friends. Perhaps suggest that your group should try one or two.
And lastly, it's impossible to change the behavior of others (good or bad). But, you can be a better example for others to follow.
Build a better group. Offer a better solution and when SHTF the fantasy will end quickly as people realize that what you offer "works".
Hope that helps,
Phil
Completely agree when it's time to do something everyone agrees on there's no dedication to an end goal or even a detailed discussion about what that even is. My family is basically dependent on me but I can't get them to get in shape for nothing. I'm the only one who feels this and sees the change in people every day. At some point it will be too risky to meet people
@@philliplopez1501it absolutely is theory. Where has “Red Dawn” happened in America? Where have civilians or jon combat arms veterans had any experience in this? Mel Tappan and Rawles basically look silly in their survival armory recommendations because they had no real world experience in the role they are talking about employing said armory.
Helping neighbors? Cutting firewood? That’s called life. That’s not “training” that’s “living.” In the mountain south this is just how it is. You don’t need a “survival group” at all for this.
Deer hunting, is the requisite firearms training needed for “shtf…” this is about getting laughable.
Please hook me up with all these veterans that are training hard skills for performance because not have met my training pace that I’ve met locally with 2 hours.
I’ve got a good group of families here I hang out & train with.
@@STOKERMATIC I know most of them pretty good myself. I haven’t seen you the last few times I have hang around them. I also wonder why you deleted my last comment. But any who.
makes me sad how many 30 year old guys I know who have all the gear and guns but are 100lbs over weight. I feel like there is a huge mindset component missing from the 2A crowd when it comes to physical training. Be realistic about your capabilities and adjust accordingly. People need to ask themselves if they are an asset or a liability
So we all gotta be thinking about the 3 Bs, but some people are better in one area than the others
I am set up pretty good in many ways, but do not have a group and that will be my family's down fall.
Same, Idk how guys find enough to call a small group, much less a group that can be split.
I love this everone should be able to pick up a rifle and fight but not everone is the fighters. You need the cooks and farmers and engineers and mechanics. More then you need the fighters but you need the fighters
Id rather cook spaghetti for my bros than JTAC.
Most guys who wants to be the trigger man. Motiv only had flat range training. I wouldn't know how to move in the squad. Just saying.
Right on, everybody is good at something. Fatty Mike may not be a very effective pew-pewer, but hes great at making hilarious meme propaganda! Put the right people in the right places.
Really great post. Everyone can be useful. Be real with yourself, what can you do to help your community?
I am 66yrs old but am fit and have exceptional stamina in zone 5. Anyone in Powdersville area need a Patrol partner to train with?
I walk like Vladimir Putin so everyone thinks I'm a gunslinger.
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How do you find people in your area that are about that life?
That's where I'm at just hoping to run into some one who meets all of those requirements. Fit or at least working at it, someone driven focused and has some decent skills. Willing to learn willing to teach. Willing is the biggest. There are people that are just incapable to think like us. We need a community of brothers.
Small talk. Ranges. Book stores. Church. Local businesses. Family. Friends. Tons of folks out there with the same questions. Just gotta start chatting about the world and what should be done about it.
@STOKERMATIC I am fully exploring all of that... carefully. Found a great place to ruck and go backpacking. You know it's good when you find a mountain lion kill as well as see deer and turkeys.
Go to CHURCH!!!!
@@wildcatcomms I do that 3 times a week
I'm looking to network flat out. Let's go, hit me up. But then again, how are we supposed to do that. Im just out in the world trying to run into people who may think like i do but i would like to meet someone from stoker or gruntproof or corporals corner audiance/viewer so there isnt soooo much ground to cover. How are you guys meeting people when you are always working. Id like to just drop my email but how do we vet these people? I dont break the law or anything but still are they trustworthy enough and not nefarious? What do you guys think?
Well - gotta know where you are. Theres lots of good folks out there.
It seems to me that the internet just isn't trustworthy, period. Tme and time again you've got glowies trying to infiltrate and use/expose people. You just have to vet people in your local area, that's the only thing that'll matter when it all goes down. Someone 2 states away is useless to you and you to him. My first thing is to walk your neighborhood on a regular basis. Just gather intel on yard signs, bumper stickers, and other indicators. You can see where the friendlies and enemies live and what their habits/routines are. Try to meet the folks with camo campers and Glock bumper stickers. In the end, it's your street, your neighborhood that really matters.
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Best of luck to ya amigo.
This is diarrhea of the mouth
Please stop smacking your mouth. This isn’t shtf asmr lol. Thanks for the videos.
Very good video. If we can't name our s1 through s6 in our groups, we are lacking and three steps from a soup sandwich. I've got work to do! Thanks!