1ST GLAZE, Learning glazing from Bouguereau, how to paint, oil painting, grisaille
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2018
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This shows the first glaze being painted over a grisaille study of a Bouguereau painting, filmed in real time with a voiceover commentary.
It is a long video, so everything is there warts and all as that may be useful. If its not then obviously watch it speeded up, skip through, and play some of your own music if you don't want to hear me waffle on!
I have always wondered how Bouguereau created such translucent effects in his work, so I wanted to learn something about his technique by copying this painting. The process of doing so has been invaluable and very enjoyable, and has deepened my understanding of the glazing process. Hopefully this will extend to my own work in the future as this is the main point of this after all.
I have shared it in the hope that it will also help anyone who is interested in this technique. It is filmed in real time because really that was what I was looking for when I was originally trying to find out how to do glazing with oil paints. - Jak na to + styl
You don’t need to apologize for the time, the method etc. glazing is a process best understood in real time. Good job!
Thank you yes I agree
Please don't timelapse these videos. I'm enjoying each more and more. I love this as an exercise, and appreciate the time you are putting in for us. You're helping teach. Don't stop.
Thanks Josh, its good to have that feedback about real-time. My feeling was that its there if people want, but you can always jump through, which is what I usually do if I'm watching a video like this.
@@mattharveyart I think there is an entire generation that doesn't understand how to look, and then make a mark. And then look, and then make a mark.
I feel grateful that I am (still) alive when I can actually watch painters paint in real time-while they talk and teach!
(I went through Engineering with just a guy w/chalk and a blackboard and no calculators! Hehe.)
its great to see someone doing this process of oil painting, so many alla prima's out there
So many videos just describe the process, I’m glad you’re actually giving us a full demonstration
Thank you, I wanted to put videos that I was originally looking for when I was trying to learn this process. Hope it adds to the conversation!
Excellent video. Helping me alot. Thank you, Matt.
Thank you for sharing your technique with us. It gives a better understanding of glazing
Thank you, I'm glad it has been useful
Absolutely gorgeous! Great painter
Thank you so much for doing these videos. I have learned a lot that I didn't know. I can't wait to try out the techniques
Thank you I'm glad to hear it! Happy painting!
Hi Matt, thank you so much for the videos. Your detailed information as you paint is of great use to learn more about it. I have been painting for a while and I find it fascinating what you do. You are a great teacher and I love to watch your videos. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Hi Crisalida thank you for all your comments! Great to hear the videos are useful.
Thank you for sharing!!!
Its lovely. Thank you for sharing your time and lovely work.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it!
This is an excellent way to learn. A video fast track has helped some but I have learned so much more from you. I have dallied here and there with after school classes for over 10 years and followed CZcams my goal being when I retire I will be knowledgeable a paint nice pictures. But what you are showing me is wonderful! Thank you. I am retired at last you might say I'm a painting fool, cant stop don't want to stop.
Hi thank you for your comment I'm happy to hear you are painting!
You're a godsend! I've been trying to learn portrait and figure painting and wanted to up my level. Just made a decent monochromatic underpainting and was stumped as to the next step. A facebook group steered me to your very detailed tutorials and now I'm working my way through all of them. Thank you so much for taking the time to record and elaborate on your process for all of us amateurs without the time, money, and or access to art colleges. This has been so helpful!
Thanks so much I’m really glad they have been helpful! I’m sorry for the late reply
Your very talented. Thank you for explaining this process. We cant all afford art school.
Thank you for showing this method. I like the real time, as you give lots of useful information. Audio kind of weak in volume, though.
OK thank you Gloria, I need a new microphone!
Hey Matt i have a piece Ive done monochrome. If i thin the paint out substantially with a medium can i go straight over top of my shading and create a nice effect with colour?
I agree No time-lapse! For those of us who actually have patience to learn.
Matt, what kind of medium do you use for the under painting if at all and also what kind for the glazing phase?
Hi Abel, I use M. Graham's Walnut Alkyd Medium, because it has a fast drying time with an alkyd resin mixed in, but doesn't have mineral spirits in. They give me a headache. Honestly, any oil based medium is good, but there are other ones out there that have drying agents in. I find its useful to speed the drying time when you are doing a lot of glazes, as just a plain linseed oil could take a week or more to cure properly for the next glaze. Just don't use too much medium whichever one you choose. And I use the same medium for both the underpainting and the glazing.
When do you use transparent and when do you use opaque?
Thank you for sharing... In glazing do we use slow drying oil medium? Sometimed i cant make corrections, because it either gets sticky or it doesnt blend with the previous layer..
Hi you can use any medium, but I like linseed oil at the moment because I can work on it for a whole day without it going tacky, then it is usually dry in a few days. I try not to commit to doing too much at one time so you can get the blending right. Build up the layers slowly
Thankyou for your prompt reply Matt, This grisaille stuff is really hard, I suppose it all comes down to practice eh?
Yes it does take a lot of practise but you can master it! I think the method that Rubens used that I show in the other video is possibly a bit easier because it is a limited palette which is always a good one to practise with. Just work slowly, less is always more with glazing.
Makes me realize how important an accurate grisaille is to the entire success of painting.
the problem is that so many people dont understand that the grisaille wasn't a grisaille it was an eboch and it wasn't done in black and white it was done in umbers and lead white over a toned ground, the lead white was applied thinly or thickly which created the value changes he's known for. But glazing over garrish black and white like this is not recommended. Also the idea that the old masters built up paintings by transparent glazes is a big misunderstanding as well. They used thin layers of opaque and transparent mediums, the underpainting was basically just a guide for them to follow the values it wasn't like they just layered transparent layers over it and got magnificent color.
Hi please don't think of it as an exact science because painting isnt. I'm using the term in a general sense to describe the process I am painting with.
Can you give more explanation of half-paste? Maybe I missed it in the video - but I can't quite seem to get a good answer as to what it is and exactly how it's used. Fantastic video by the way.
Hi Seth thank you, as far as I understand it a half-paste is colour with a bit of white added so it is still translucent. It could have a lot or a little white in, as long as the layers below show through. When I start to add highlights on the glaze using white I would call that a half-paste. On all of these videos I start mixing with colour only, and then begin to add white for the highlights
If not concerned with faster drying time could I just use walnut oil instead of walnut alkyd...keeping the glaze still very thin? Thanks for this wonderful video!
Yes of course! I actually now think this is better
Did you complete the hair also in the underpainting in monotone as the video didn't show that?
Can you use linseed oil for the first medium bit?
Yes
Still waiting for next demo in this series. Do you know when to expect?
Hi there sorry I'm just working on some other portraits so it's a bit late, but should be there in1-2 weeks
Why is part 2 privatized?
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On different planes of the nose I have many colours..having hard time blending the glazes of different tones ones placed on canvas as they dry too quickly
Hi I have the same problem myself. I recommend not using a drier these days and now I generally just use linseed oil. There are slower drying oils out there but that gives me enough time to work it, at least over the course of 1 day. Also I have to discipline myself not to use too many colours sometimes and stick to simple variations around one colour mix. If you look at someone like Velazquez the differences in colours on his portraits are only extremely small, and are hardly perceptible. If you like mixing many colours then possibly keep your working area small so that you have time to blend them together before they dry. What happens to me is that when I go back to a second or third glaze I cant mix the paints, so I have to use very thin glazes that dont just sit on top of the earlier glazes
@@mattharveyart Thank you Matt for taking out the time to reply elaborately.
amazing bro plz make more videos!
learned many thing from u
btw what medium are u using for glazing?
Hi thanks I use M. Graham's Walnut Alkyd medium, just because it dries quickly and doesn't contain any mineral spirits. I'll post some more videos soon
Hi, great video, how medium did you use?. Thanks for share us 👨🎨👏
Sorry for late reply. Linseed oil all the way through. Check the latest video descriptions
Thank u so much fr real time glazing i have messed up a bunch of my paintings evrytim while trying glaze .... m a self taught artist..god bless u fr such a detailed vid....helped me a lot
Cud you also advise why do my glazed layer tend to lift up whnever i brush it over again i mean when i m trying add another color tint n sort of blend remove th blotchy look ?
I see u going over the same spots over n over so hw is tht happning ?
How come ur glaze hasnt dried up fr this long mine liquitex glazing dries up by th time i go back to it 🤔🤔
Hi thanks for your comment. I'm using oils so it takes much longer to dry than liquitex. I guess you are using acrylics with it and they dry quite quickly, but I think you can get mediums for acrylics which slow the drying process
@@mattharveyart hi thank you for your reply no. i am talking abt oil paints only n since i havent touched that liquin liquitex bottle again fr a very long time nw i hope i m saying the correct name here of th stuff i used for glazing. if you used oil you must be having to wait for a week for it to put another layer of glazes right?
Winona Wins ok I think your medium is just drying too fast. Oil is good but does take ages to dry, depending on the colour as some dry faster than others. I like to use M Graham’s walnut alkyd medium as it dries quickly but you can work with it for most of a day, it usually takes a couple of days to be touch dry. Drying times are the one annoying thing about oil paints
@@mattharveyart yes so true also the sticking of those minute particles from air in a closed room too in th process of drying it up is quite an irksome issue 😐.. this time i am goin to giv it another try using walnut alkyd medium lik u said i.e. if i manage to find grahams in india my country 👍👍 thank you for being so informative
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@@winonawins6932 OK if you google it I'm sure whoever would ship internationally
Sorry Matt, but I don´t quite get the name of your alkyd medium ,can you please tell me the exact brand name... Thanks a million.
Hi its M. Graham's Walnut Alkyd.
Thanks for your info. I appreciate it
Can you tell me why your shadows are so dark in the first glaze
Hi thanks for your comment. I guess its because I'm trying to fit it all in a short space of time. Personally I like the second of these videos best because there it shows how you can continue to adjust the colours i.e. lighten or darken as necessary. It is only an example of the process, and people can take it as slowly as they want and do a few sessions for this.
Walnut Alkyd medium!
I love it!
Hi. Matt.I have a question.I've heard some painters saying the glazing is only for the shadows, and opaque for the lights. What is your view on this topic?
Hi thanks for asking. I use glazes of half pastes for the lights as they brighten lights in the same way darker glazes deepen shadows. Im very sceptical about anyone talking of ‘rules’ in art or painting, there are no rules, only painting, so I don’t like it when people say these kinds of statements. Picasso said you can’t teach technique. What does that mean? I think it means we all have our own unique sensibilities and we can express them more fully when we are not bound by rules. My half pastes (colour mixed with white) can be more or less opaque depending on the painting I’m doing. I really like the way I can brighten lights by going over them with glazes of half pastes, up to pure white if necessary, even to 100% opacity sometimes. It all depends on the needs of a particular painting
@@mattharveyart agreed you do what fits your art
how is walnut alkyd different from Liquin
doesn't have any mineral spirits which give me a headache
.. a seagull? at 39: ? Doesn't say if they dry flat or glossy?
Hi yes I live near the sea! Yes always let each layer dry properly before painting again
I've been painting for about 20 years or so and it is "my opion" that your first glaze is too "fat " instead of lean. At this process ,I think that your colors will continue to get even darker than lighter. All in my opinion!!!!! It is a great piece ,but the tones aren't gonna be what you're looking for in the end result.
OK thanks, hopefully I'll show in the second glaze how to adjust!
I think is would have been better to blotch in the blue background first - how you going to achieve the hair otherwise. Thanks for sharing!
Do you think you got slight lead poisoning from that concoction in the field?
Hi I hope not! I was very careful using it and when it’s in a gel it’s stable. The litharge dust is what you have to be careful of and I was , only ever handling it outside.
I don’t use it these days as I make a medium using linseed , zest it and walnut alkyd
@@mattharveyart it amazes me the dedication that artists have to their art. Inspiring even when self-harmful
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bouguereau glazed over a colored underpainting not a grisaille
Maybe sometimes but my guess is that he also used grisaille. My point is to show how glazing works
I don't think that Bouguereau first made a grisaille and then glazed his painting. I think he would have made a colourful painting and glazed it with warm tones and deep shadows.
Yes you’re probably right. I’m doing that now. I just used it as a way to explore this method
Bouguereau didn't use grisaille technique and didn't using glazes. He also didn't use soft blending brushes or fan brushes.
The term grisaille is a misnomer. Even though it means "in grey tones" in French, grisaille was almost never done in black and white.
Grisaille is useful when done in local tones and proper value. Here, you are demonstrating a watercolor technique using oil paint. No offense intended. Just trying to help.
Hi thanks for your comment and feedback. Sorry about the language I'm using. I guessed that Bouguereau sometimes worked from a monochrome underpainting and I am using the term 'grisaille' in the broadest sense of a monochrome. I use the word as a means to communicate my approach to people as I think it can be understood in the way I show it, and I think it shows glazing oil paints is a practical and for me beautiful method of indirect painting. I just love the way you can transform a monochrome underpainting with colour. I find it really magical. I don't feel I could paint a painting like Bouguereau without some kind of glazing however you define that term, and I may be mistaken but I thought it was common knowledge Bouguereau used glazes. Looking at the work I still feel sure he did. I use the term here to describe working in thin layers. I'm not academically trained, so when I use a term like grisaille it has the broadest possible meaning, outside of an academic context. I don't think you can describe what I'm doing as a watercolour technique as I am mixing using white, also with just sable and hogs hair brushes, nothing special. I'm just on a journey to find the best, most efficient way, in my own experience and opinion, to paint a portrait and trying to share my own learning in the most authentic way possible. Thanks again I really appreciate your comment because I need to clarify what I am doing.
matt harvey art I think he started a drawing with translucent brown paint and paint his shadows with that as well. And then I think he would paint the cool greenish or blueish greyish half tones like you see in this painting in the forehead and in the neck. When this was dry he would paint the light areas first with the more reddish tones and finish with the lightest lights and more yellowish tones. Does this make sense? I think he used a green underpainting as such but I haven’t seen his work in person so I’m not sure. Do you think this might have been how he painted? Thanks!
@@josquinelburg74 Hi thanks for your comment. I'm not sure that he did it in the way you describe. I just feel that he did not paint translucent shadows first and that he glazed them over the top of previous layers.I have seen evidence of this on the web where some of his glazes have flaked off and they were definitely greenish in hue and painted last in the shadow areas. Of course the lightest highlights would have been painted last. He possibly could have used a green underpaintng but looking at this painting I don't think so. I think unless it is xrayed it is difficult to tell exactly how he did it. I am trying to show how you can get nearly the same quality just using grisaille underpainting. I cannot say for certain that he used exactly the same technique as I use here, but I have done it to help others with indirect painting. Thanks again
matt harvey art Thanks for responding. There are a lot of different approaches to painting and yours has some really good results. Speculating how Bougueareau could’ve painted is hard for me but also exciting. I hope technical research will be done soon. Thanks again!
matt harvey art By the way, can you share with me where you found those examples of where the paint flaked of?
is this video available in ENGLISH??? This gus speaks like he has a mouthful of soup.
Why are you such a moron? This gentleman's English is proper, clear, lucid, standard English as spoken in the country that invented it. He has produced an excellent video on the subject for the information of those who wish to learn.
If you just want to remain being an uneducated troll and only desire to hear someone grunting in a retarded Americanese, then go and listen to some halfwitted cretin in the US of A.
So slow,so long,so unconfident,so far from original. Why you show us this?
Karen G. Why comment this? He’s obviously learning.
@@richspizzaparty I'm afraid that CZcams is awash with educationally sub-normal trolls, such as "Karen", who have no purpose in life except to adversely criticise the efforts of others who have more talent and greater brainpower.