On Claiming Belief In God: Discussion with Dennis Prager
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- I talked with Dennis Prager at the Prager Summit in May in Santa Barbara. It's really a discussion about two previous talks, for a collection of three. I would recommend watching them in the following order:
First, watch Who Dares Say He Believes in God? ( • Lecture: Who Dares Say... ). That lecture was part of my 12 Rules for Life tour, and took place in Sydney, Australia, Feb 26, 2019.
Second, watch the lecture I gave just before this discussion at the Prager summit: On Claiming Belief in God: Commentary ( • On Claiming Belief in ... ),.
Then watch this discussion.
The three presentations will make the most sense in that order, which is why I placed them in the same playlist, On (My) Belief in God: bit.ly/2I6g0hq
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What makes Peterson extraordinary is, he will sit on a stage,
in front of anyone, and courageously examine the depths of his own soul,
while most people I know are so fearful that, they won't even do that in
the privacy and solitude of their own bedroom.
Oh snap. True!
You’re right.
Well said...so true.
💣💥🙌🏼
Well good morning... that's some truth that'll smack you awake faster than this coffee! 👋👋👋🤣
The fact that Jordan Peterson's humility, honesty, and depth of being can bring an old man like me to tears and touch my spirit make me so thankful that Jordan Peterson is on this planet.
DITTO THAT!!
DOUBLE DITTO!
👍👍👍💓
And the same for an old woman :)
About Facts
I too am old and haven't unlimited time to mess around either.
It is a fact that JP exists. To what, whom, or Whom are you thankful for his existence? You did not specify. Obviously JP had nothing to do with his own creation or conception. Do you feel thankful toward Fate, or the Big Bang, or nothing in particular? You do not sound like a total materialist, since you speak of having a spirit. This is encouraging.
I hope that you are a Christian. But if not, please consult Jesus rather than JP. Jesus has done for us what no philosopher can do.
(Romans 5:8) 'For God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.'
My father taught me many of these concepts and it has served me well throughout my 74 years. Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager are truly a gift to humanity, as my father was a gift to me.
You are very blessed to have had a good, caring father!
Amen to that. You just spoke a bushel full of truth in one small sentence. That is quite an accomplishment.
70 here. was blessed with just such a father. It has taken me through many trials and strengthened my character. Lucky us.
yes, agreed. I thank God for your father and mine too. i am grateful for my father.
Absolutely!
Almost made me cry- such sincerity. “Only 200 people” signed a petition, how that didn’t destroy him emotionally speaks to his inner strength. Something similar happened to me in Grade 8, all the kids but one ganged up on me, conspired together to hurt me. Took years to get over it. So I learned very young that people in groups can be cruel. But I also learned that 1 person’s kindness can make the world of difference and make even the most wicked human acts somehow survivable.
Well said.
I'm not sure I will ever be over it as the understanding will never leave me, I get it
Jordan Peterson has no "inner strength." All about playing his supporters with victimhood and virtue signalling crap.
@@leonharrison800 go away man your negativity shines a brightly lit weakness that subjects us all to your immense ignorance you don't belong here.
Listen to the words of the song by Judas Priest. Beyond the realms of death.
From a Muslim Middle Eastern , not that I use this as identity more like a proof, Peterson you have changed my life. I grew up in Saudi Arabia until the age of 20, and I was force fed all the toxic group identity doctrines you talked about. Now I feel free, you have freed me from all that. I have found a meaning to life. Thank you so much!
religions are the root of all evil
@@iamplay797 I guess you didn't get JP message
iamplay we don’t speak of the catholics 👀
@Taqifsha Nanen schools, hospitals, science, organised charity for the poor, not perfect but a start... Man needs something to live for, otherwise the seduction of communism with its narrative of good and evil becomes attractive.. Only communism due to its secular nature is assumed to not need to be criticised... Alas a new religion has been born..
@@iamplay797 No. It's "avarice" that is the root of all evil. Marxism is a close second, or possibly on par.
Every time he talks about strangers telling him the positive impact he's had on their life, he gets emotional. That's proof to me he is a good man.
Randy If by that you mean a man who has allowed God to shine His light deep into his heart, then yes he is a good man. Most good people know how how imperfect they are.
Humility is a trait of a good man too. I believe even a good man has the capacity for evil and the fact that he doesn't do evil things despite be capable of them is why he is good.
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I just saw a video of him talking about his effecting change in people's lives and he had to wipe away tears and was choked up. Very sincere and humble
Randy Burrill he is awesome. Undeniable.
I particularly love how Dennis lets him go. He lets him speak, doesn’t interject, and truly listens. As we all should.
That is the sign of a great interview/discussion... You don't listen to counter... You listen to understand and then counter if necessary...
They both do, both listen and let the other speak. Participatory dialogue.
I thought Danis tried to outsmart Jordan but defeated by Jordan’s brutally humble and honest and as a matter of fact responses..! Hahaha. ! Dang..!!! Danis is just one of the boring old regular guys. I would not listen to his speech.!
I was once an atheist, and for decades, but this spoke to me deeply.
I think I am not anymore.
Praise the Lord. Oncs you start living for Jesus everything changes that's being born again 🙌 🙏
And now you can know you will hsve a place in the kingdom and beyond
There is only life in Him. Only permanent death without
Watch Unlocking the Mysteries of life on CZcams its very good it's not religious just profound.
I was taught at a very young age that it's better to live your life as God exists and be wrong than to live your life as he doesn't and be wrong... At the time I didn't understand because either way you are wrong and at that age I thought no matter how you live your life if you're wrong then your wrong and I want to be right... Now I understand what he was saying and I live my life as God exists...
God not essential to be Spiritual. And all life matters. Humans not the most important species on the planet.
Hi EconMan. 😊 I am Elaine. Your Comment Really Touched my Heart ❤️
Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life and No One Comes to the Heavenly Father Except Through Me. “ That’s in the Book of John chapter 14 verse 6.
If you have a Easy to Read Bible then Reading the Book of John in the New Testament Will Help Answer Your Spiritual Questions.
I like to concentrate on Jesus’s Words.
No One Ever said the things He said like He Said Them.
I’m Praying that You Will Understand What God Wants You to Know about His LOVE for You.
GOD LOVES YOU ❤
I weep tears of joy hearing Jordan’s amazing wisdom and honesty. May God bless him with a full recovery to health and sustain him through all the many trials he is sure to endure.
Damn....
Just watched for the second time all the way through. I replayed several parts as I watched and the last 5 minutes just now. Tears were threatening... but your comment racked a sob out of me 😂😛
Not the first time I've shed a tear watching Peterson.
Thank you for your comment. So true.
When Dennis says he'll end on Peterson's last comment because nothing could be more powerful, I could accept that in the grander sense of Jordans contributions to my life and the world. But I really hope we don't have to.
What a bright candle. The best often burn out quickly. But if Peterson can do what he has helped so many of us do, there will be more to come.
Maybe this last year was a necessary Journey to the underworld.❤
I think Peterson came by his wisdom honestly from places of real darkness and pain. That's why we get what he has put together. Maybe there is an even bigger lesson seeing that someone who can express how to achieve meaning as well as he does can still succumb to the suffering and pain and malevolence of existence. As he says, ultimately we all do.
Maybe his new level of suffering will inspire even greater Transcendence
@@jimbarth9859 thanks and I concur with your insights. The World has always persecuted its noblest true prophets.
He's back! He just posted a video, he's back home in Toronto and is going to start making videos again. 😇
@@jimbarth9859 I agree, I think his suffering during this last year probably pushed him more towards God. That's what suffering usually does, although sometimes it has the opposite effect. But I can tell he's closer to God now.
@@kodykj2112 it does I went through benzo and methadone withdrawals while I was in prison after my fiancé passed. That four years offered more insight and clarity then anything I could have imagined. I admired Peterson more after finding out about his struggles with Clonazepam.
I am a 50 year old Korean-American man, who witnessed his father slowly work and drink himself to death over 45 years. Your explanation of the Pinocchio parable healed me more than I can express. Thank God for you Dr. Peterson! You have made me a believer! ❤ 🙏
Cheers brother.
I can’t wait to watch Pinocchio - I don’t think I ever have! I hope you can too!
Praised be the name of the Lord! ❤
This testament here touched me to the degree I cannot even express. As a young man from a 3rd world country I have gone through a lot myself. Jordan Peterson is truly a gift from God!
Hang in there you're not alone my brother
In my lifetime, I've never known of a man as both earnest and culturally prominent as Jordan Peterson. And so totally courageous in pursuit of Truth. Lionheart...
It lifts the spirit to observe such people.
I believe Alexey Navalny is such a man..... so let's all be reminded that it can go both ways. The inhumanity, malevolence and evil inherent in societies without free speech should terrify each and everyone of us.
I am so thankful for this man, Jordan Peterson. He is pouring out his tortured pursuit of the Truth and Meaning with such honest expression. He is a giant of our age.
We didn’t know we needed Peterson until he appeared.
So true. I found Jordan Perterson through a video that was trying to paint him in a very negative light. But I liked what he said in the video so I looked up his channel and I am absolutely hooked. Same way I discovered Dave Rubin too.
Agreed
And then dissapeared
I'm so glad I found him
@@mosheahvows5071 not sure what you mean. If you're saying he disappeared, it's because he's been in the hospital for almost a year. But I'm sure he'll be back.
"I would never claim to be good. I think it's dangerous. But I did become terrified about how terrible I could be."
4:07
Now he just needs to understand that Christ is the solution to human evil.
@@obiii5482 knowing Christ means you can't help but proclaim that He is Lord. Peterson does not do that. He talks about Christ, studies the bible, but he's admitted that he does not believe it is the truth. He's flirting with Christ but not following Christ.
@@maxINaus He may not yet have a testimony of Christ's divinity and of His atoning sacrifice and resurrection, but he has the necessary humility to say that he doesn't know everything and must live as though he does believe.
@@logonbump yes I think that's great. Hopefully he is on the path, but he's not there yet. And as Christians we need to recognise that. It's not about being an exclusive group or shunning him or anything like that.
But the man still denies Christ as Lord and scripture as history. So we need to he careful how much we buy into what this man says. Just because he gives the bible respect and doesn't mock it does not make him a Christian. He's brilliant, charming and very philosophical and emotional. I love all that about him but he is not a Christian and he does not believe Christ is Lord. So if you're a Christian, don't hang off this guy's words.
God only knows what you’d be if you truly believed in God. His answer about how intense really believing in God is made me cry uncontrollably.
This is so heart breaking to watch. So used to JP's tone, I can tell he was suffering a lot when he had this discussion. It only becomes clear when you know how terribly sick he was during that time. His trembling voice clearly shows the utter anguish he was in. I'm glad he managed to get well again and shine with ever more glowing brightness.
JP has helped me overcome my very first depressive episode that lasted for a year. If it wasn't for his videos and books, i would have ended up a lot worse and could have committed suicide. His perspective on life and suffering was what made it possible for me to bare the incredible pain my illness had me in at the time. I'm so greatfull to have come across his content without which i would have certainly perished.
Here’s why Peterson’s message works: 1. He talks about everything 2. He’s honest about it all, spills his guts even cries on stage 3. His analysis is clear and with good examples without scientific wording. 4. And then he tells us: his job is AS GOOD AS IT GETS!
5. And he's a man, who men can relate to.
“If there is great darkness, there has to be a great light.”
Is exactly what brought me to take my first steps into faith.
Amen sister, I pray God reveals Himself to you in Jesus' name amen
God is good, and Jesus loves you.
When we look out into the darkness at night by contrast we also see the billions of lights shining at us. That amount of matter and energy is incredible, especially in light of it all coming from one place at one time, in the Big Bang beginning where the eternal God said, "Let there be light." But the fine tuning of the universe is just as remarkably beyond impossible odds. To think from this one singular explosion of everything from apparent nothing we get perfect harmony of so many life sustaining variables, it's ridiculous without an intelligent designer.
Yeeeah but that is just not true is It? Just because there exist great darkness doesnt mean that there exists great light too
I, me, describe what I see in the world with a metaphor, great darkness - my perception of nature as being in balance means there has to be a great light - therefore there is a God???????
You can really feel the heart intelligence coming out now between these two wonderful men, our generation so needs.
We don't deserve this human. His genuine love of fellow man amazes me with each video.
The world needs more Dennis Pragers and Jordan Petersons.
Sadly many don’t want to hear.
And Ravi Zecharias and Billy Grahams :)
@@DrTiwade Ravi, minus the sex crimes.
Thomas Sowell too.
@@dodieodie498 Just two Thomas Sowells and I'd need a clean pair of shorts.
"I thank God He made you." That is the greatest compliment ever. Thanks JP. God bless you!
lol... why you need a dad then?
you must get 10%
These guys are a gift to humanity. Thank you for sharing these important words and topics. Godspeed and God bless gentlemen!
JP, a true courageous deep thinker of our time. Must be hard for him living like this in the world we now live in. We need many like him!
I'm getting emotional watching this. I wish nothing but the best for this man. Truly a rare gem.
I basically never cry. But this brought real tears in my eyes. Joran is as pure as a human can be, it overwhelms me when he cries. It really does something deep
Bear in mind he's high on benzodiazepines during this.
If by some miracle, this comment actually reaches Jordan, I would like him to know that I am father of 11 children, and for 27 years I have been living as one who believes in God and in Jesus as the Christ. I have been praying for you to get through the trials and trouble you have been facing. I am sure I am not the only one pulling hard for your total recovery. Be encouraged! If you come near Jacksonville Florida, I will try to come and shake your hand, or perhaps hug you if it's appropriate.
Well done you!!
😇🥰
Bless u, Amen ❤️❤️❤️
This comment is so damn beautiful. I am close to tears. You sound like an incredible man and Jordan Peterson certainly is. He is a national treasure!
@@nikkivenable3700 Jordan displays such a passion for truth and genuine care for people that is rare in his circles the way he expresses it. He is a treasure!
As for me, I will just live my life one day at a time, in love with Jesus.
I can’t over state the positive impact that Dr. Peterson has had on my life. He would never admit it but he is a living hero.
as a muslim, i, too, thank God he made JBP. i hope he knows people pray for him and his well-being. we owe him a lot.
As a Muslim the only thing you should do is leave Islam repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness
I appreciate you :)
"Wow!!" this guy blows my mind away!! All the comments below far exceed me for praise, but I'm so pleased this man is living on earth at the same time I am...
Phil J Green... I agree with you and yet I will add this, 'So what? What now?'. I mean this in the most sincere way possible.
@@eroman2301 God bless you, Roman. You're great.
@@wmc9722 First I'd recommend at least one more listen. Your question and perhaps the way it is asked seems to hold a built in defeat, or perhaps nihilist undertones. Read the works of some of the names JP mentioned,
I would add the stoics, If you're not a reader, You Tube is rife with these teachings. Get busy and build a life of good action, take risks in that endeavor, and if you have a loss, remember that loss is just change and change is nature's delight.Getting knocked down is a critical part of a rich life. Just remember to always get back on your feet. You can do it...You can live a life worth living.
@@lukula2934 Thanks for your words here, you went deep on a comment I made that was meant to be simple. Perhaps it is not. My life is full and rich with experiences borne of daily action. You're not consoling me in some time of need. I'm a person of action who can and does find desired target and then finds ways to hit them. You misread my intention and I thank you for your heartfelt words. I find a lot of people seem to be satified by a sort of mental marturbation and to them I ask, 'So what? What now?' Get ready for a bumby ride and make sure you have plenty of flashlights, batteries, and candles. I know you have much reading to do. Again: Thanks!
Me too. 💜
When Peterson cries, I cry
Us Jordan's cry together.
@@CoconutBanger facts
I love this comment.
I found jordan about 2 years ago. Since then i have watched more of his content on CZcams than anything else. You. Are a life changer. God bless you and your family Jordan. The world is a better place because of you.
Same here!
You sir have impacted the lives of so many people with your courage to speak on issues that many of us can't at this time for what ever reason. Jordan you have been given a gift from God in regards to how you communicate period with people and how you express vulnerability. I feel blessed everytime I watch or listen to your lectures or interviews. You sir are an absolute inspiration.
Yes, Jordan Peterson, you are a gift to His wonderful creation that's so far away from God, thankyou, for being so transparent, helping those in desparate need of understanding life. God Bless you and your family❤
“Read history like a perpetrator, not a victim.” 🤯
Would you have been a Nazi as well?
@@misssarahashplant31 would you?
@@misssarahashplant31 careful to not assume you'd be morally superior in a harshly compromised situation... Most Nazis became Nazis by doing that. Being well intentioned doesn't imply actions that are comprehensively good
@Ex Life Dost thou dialogue with thy shadow?
@@ruburtoe1 Good point!
Everybody knows that you’re bright, but I know you’re good ………… what a praise
amazing, yes
@@gherieg.1091
I honestly agree with Asrun. Dennis Prager comes across as annoyingly agreeable. I certainly think its sweet of him to praise Peterson, but after continuous praise it just feels like phoney niceness born from the awe of sitting next to him.. Its too much. Its like saying to your mother-in-law that her food is michelin-worthy when in fact its just ok. Peterson and Prager probably had a nice talk at lunch before the show, true, but this whole talk of 'knowing when someone is good' is a bit easy and simplified.
@Eskild Krogh
deep thinking people get emotional when they speak to someone who understands them in a culture where it's popular to spit in their faces.
they're not being disingenuous, the fact that they're that stoked to talk to one another proves how serious both of them take the interaction.
I came to see two great minds have a debate and instead i got them jerking each other off for 10 minutes lmao
Almost made me tear up...
He is always absolutely passionate about his work, his words and the people who listens to him. He's also so afraid of the evil and the malevolence.
And we can see that, at that time, he was deeply depressed. I'm so glad he's ok now. And back.
As a transgender person who managed to claw their way through stress, anxiety, depression and social incompetence all on my side, I can say nothing else but I love JP, his lectures and speeches are well dark but heart-warming and helped me make it harder to fall back into the hell I escaped once before
Keep the faith!
Don't care if you are trans.. what matters is what you said, done, and intentions.. God bless you
Glad to read that you were healed of the evil thoughts saying you were “born a mistake.” It does take stress, anxiety, depression and social incompetence to live in that lie. The voices don’t stop until you obey them; alas, even then, they only stop for awhile.
there is no such thing as transgender. bad enough you try to fool others, but you have fooled yourself into eternal hell. wake up and feel the truth.
"Scripture declares that homosexuality is a sin, which is contrary to God’s intention in creating man and woman. Sinful resistance to the revealed will of God is a factor in this sin. People may become slaves to this sin (Romans 1:18-31, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10)."
"Many factors contribute to individual acts of sin: the sinful nature we are born with, the weaknesses of our bodies, evil influences in our environment, temptations and encouragement from other sinners, and our own sinful choice join together to lead us into sin. All of these factors contribute to homosexual sin. The proportionate role of these various factors may vary from case to case.
We must warn the impenitent that homosexuality, like all sins, excludes people from eternal life (1 Corinthians 6:9-10). The church, therefore, must not, bless same-sex marriages or unions, since these are contrary to the will of God. The church must not place into nor retain in the public ministry of the Word people who defend, condone, or persist in words or actions that are contrary to God’s law."
We are happy to assure the repentant who are struggling against this sin that they have complete forgiveness through the blood of Christ. When Christ died for all of the sins of the whole world, he gained forgiveness for homosexual deeds, for homosexual desires, and for the inborn sinful nature that produces these sins (1 Corinthians 6:11).
"Every sin is both a choice of the will and the expression of an inborn tendency to sin. Our sinful will is guilty of consent whenever we sin in thought, word, or deed. As a result of our sinful nature we take pleasure in our sins and defend them. This universal tendency is apparent also in the efforts of gay rights activists to condone their homosexuality and to deny that anything is wrong with it."
"Even though the weakness of our own body may be one factor that leads us to sin, God holds us responsible for all of our sins, even those sins that enslave us and those sins that we are not aware of. We need God’s forgiveness even for those sinful desires that we resist and do not act upon. These desires too are sin. (Read Romans 7 for a treatment of slavery to sin.) Christ’s forgiveness covers every form of every sin for the repentant."
"As Christian citizens we should work for laws that will protect society from the harmful consequences of sin. As citizens we promote such laws on the basis of reason and natural knowledge of the law. If the state tolerates moral evils, which violate God’s law, we will continue to oppose them on the basis of God’s Word."
I've never seen JP tearing up like this before. Looking at the date of the video it ties in with some dark times for the man. Makes me respect him even more👍
It's not unusual. He often gets emotional when he talks about the positive responses and stories of lives turned around that he hears from people. It obviously means a lot to him.
I view the recent dark period Peterson experience as a crisis in his Faith. Peterson has seen behind the veil and I'm sure, into the many dark minds of his patients. He didn't like what he saw and it's shaken his belief in God. As an Atheist, perhaps I recognize this quite starkly because I moved to a position of a non-believer because of what I have seen and experienced. That and the fact that Science can neither prove (Or disprove) the existence of a God. I always say this to Believers - "Extraordingary Claims require Extraordinary Evidence".
@@james_tiberius_kirk73 If you're looking for extraordinary evidence just go out side and look around. Look at the sky at night. Look at and into yourself. All the evidence you need is right there.
@@wormwood078 Whilst I respect your view and will never condemn you for it (And as a fellow Human Being I love you) that is not evidence I'm afraid. Peace.
What’s the time stamp on him getting emotional?
I am a Canadian, so proud of this truly good man.Mostly I love his humility.💞
God blessed us with him!
Y'all should be proud of him. Hes awesome.
I am with there. I have listened to JP a lot and had decided he was a good man. His 'belief' in a god I found disappointing, if I am honest. He is humble and infinitely thoughful and analytical. I love his statement of acting as if God exists. I think that's the closest to my feelings as a lapsed Roman Catholic and atheist for most of my 69 years.
yes god loves Canadians
Yep. You can spot the monsters by their lack of it…
Wonderful comments about this interview. I have watched as many of Peterson's CZcams videos as I can find, and this one, like all the others is similar, but no two are ever the same. Words of wisdom in them all.
THE WORLD IS A MUCH BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF THESE TWO MEN. THEY ARE A GIFT FROM GOD TO HUMANITY!
Jordan Peterson saved my life. He may never know it, and I may never be able to thank him...but his words, his message, and his passion for helping others helped me to slay the dragon in the underworld...and claim the treasure it guards. He's also the reason why I now live my life as if God exists...and I listen to this interview whenever I need a little help through my day.
Thank you.
Amen my friend.
Amen and God bless.
Awesome, Michael! Absolutely awesome!
I only hope I can find that path too
Write to him.
LazlosPlane ....how do you get in contact with him?
A stumbled across JP at 17 when a part of his lecture was in a video about how to get girls. Finding JP and reading his book had nothing but a positive impact on me. Mainly, I discovered the podcasting world where I’m able to learn from people like him, Joe Rogan, Jocko Willink, and Andy Stumpf, people which continue to improve my life everyday.
Overall, I haven’t gotten the girl, but I did clean my room, started martial arts, read a bunch of books, improved my family relationships, and began to understand myself like never did before. JP was the catalyst to that domino effect, and I can’t thank him enough.
Good job man! The girl will come don't worry. Building yourself into a high quality man will inevitably attract high quality people into your life. Keep it up 👍💪
I’m 39 and after decades of searching all I can say is you’re on the right track. Keep doing what you are doing my friend.
@@donkeykong6602 Damn straight, that’s great advice!
The right people enter your life at the right time my friend
Keep up the good work. What you're doing is preparing yourself to be the right man for the right girl. (Which is arguably far more important.) She's coming. And with any luck, at this moment she's preparing herself for you too.
I truly believe you were put here to return hope to us. To rekindle every thing we have let fall to the wayside. You're passion and intelligence is so powerful, I felt it just a few minutes time. I haven't stopped listening since. I accidentally opened the CZcams app, when shoving my cell phone into my pocket to free my hands while working under my truck. While my hands were greasy and busy, your voice started speaking from my pocket. It was the 13 Ways of Life (I believe it was called). Five minutes in, and I lay there on the hot concrete, arms still shoved up inside my motor, frozen in place listening. The world around me had faded to background noise and, for a moment, all I heard was your voice on the video. I began to cry because something just clicked inside me. Your words made sense, and it was just what I needed. The night before I had sat in my garage at 2 AM . Unable to sleep, because of all the sadness and worry I felt about the world today. About how hard and painful life really is. Wondering why? What is the return? Why are we here? To feel pain? I felt lost.
So, with my heart hurting, and my soul broken, I asked 'Why? Please tell me, show me where I'm lacking. So I can grow and make my life better than it is today. Better than it was yesterday. And I promise, I will continue to build on that. How can I fix this?". Then by accident, your video began playing, and my answer was right there. Thank you. My soul needed a recharge.
I dont know where Jordan finds the strength....He grinds so hard and he is trying not to fall apart all the time...unreal.
Jordan Peterson once said, that he takes the audience of who he's speaking to on a journey with him as he speaks through things. I think that's why he's so popular. Although his intellect is off the charts, he talks with you not down or at you. Authenticity and vulnerability is all too rare in the public forum. This gives you hope in humanity. Get well!
Dennis, "My biggest reasons for belief in God are watching what happens when we don't." Amen.
World history actually disabuses a person of the notion that the only way for a society to live is through Judeo-Christian values.
It's a shame anyone would treat him so bad, he's such a good man. He's helped me a lot by just one certain video. I love this man.💜✝️ GODBLESS YOU Jordan Peterson, I wish you could see this. I hope you get born again, and accept Jesus into your heart.
@@Magnulus76 ?
Mark Rogers
Well put, but there is nothing original in the statement. Also we need to bear in mind the Scripture which says:
(James 2:19) 'You believe that God is one. The demons also believe, and shudder.'
I've read that Prager is an 'orthodox Jew'. which if true, means that he rejects his own Messiah. The Messianic Jews have the correct Christology, NOT the so-called 'orthodox', who ironically are heretics.
@@iainrae6159 what?
If only everyone would strive to live in such a way as to earn the thanks of those they influence.
Dr. Peterson, thank you for "shouldering the load", and for your great work. You have offered healing and hope to me as well. I thank God for you!
While we contemplate our next meal or how to earn a dollar; this man contemplates those things that lay dormant in our psyche and in our soul. He is indescribable.
I was wishing I had heard this at 20 instead of 70. Then again I might not have paid attention.
Well said.
Yikes
God bless the man who is still open-minded at 70!
Never is late !!!!
Philipp Berry im 22, and paying attention. We’ll try to cover you up! 😄
"One person who stops lying can bring down a tyranny " let's find that person . Pray for this Americans.
Amen more man like him rep my king jesus christ
It could be you Susan, Dr. Peterson talks about that very thing in this video.
@@ObeySilence More than 20,000 public lies are currently held by Trump. How ?
@@rays8521 Wake up.
Susan K
Jesus not only spoke the truth at all times; He IS (as He said) the Way, and the Truth, and the Life (see John 14:6).
Through His weakness, by submitting to death on the Cross, and by His Resurrection to glory, He defeated SIN and DEATH, our greatest enemies.
Satan, the ultimate tyrant, was vanquished.
The rest of history until its end is the outworking of that encounter.
I love Dennis P ❤️. So calm and joyful.
The difference between the 2 is one has a grim look at life the other can look at the good and focus on it.
Good is not the default position. That part hit me so hard. Thank you Jordan.
So many come to hear you speak because we are starving for truth.
Amen!
It is more than that. We need to be helped to think in a way that is honest. His very being seems to teach the beauty of truth and deep thought.
Jesus is the truth. There is no need to be starved for the truth. We have the Word of God
Wow, You said it well friend! 💖
Only Jesus is the truth! Look there and you’ll find it 🙌🏼
This was literally the best interview I've ever watched. Im a young person, only 19 turning 20 in six months, and the adult world has been so scary and overwhelming for me, much more than I thought it ever was and I know people my age or around my age who still think that the world cant hurt them and Im so glad that I've bucked up my ideas and I realize that I still have a lot to learn, Im also extremely grateful to have found someone like Jordan Peterson who I can learn from.
You're lucky to have discovered him so young. JP fell into my radar when I was around 28, I'm currently 31. And I'm literally starting to stop hating myself and to be aware of my own demons, learning to keep them at bay. I've battled depression and suicidal thoughts since I was 12, never sought help from any medical professionals due to the fact that it's a taboo issue in my country/ culture/ family.
I have applied Jordan's advice to my life for two years and it has been a blessing as the world becomes darker.
Since you are young, consider checking out Dave Ramsey and his advice about money, specifically avoiding debt or how to get out if you're in it.
All of us who pay attention to the world feel the fear you mentioned. That is why so many would rather live in blindness.
I second that. Jordan Peterson is the wisest person I have come to know in my short 13 years. This discussion brings hope back to a girl who forgot that darkness requires light to be properly examined and acknowledged.
@@MegaMerdeux, good thing, you overcome. Have Faith in Jesus, and you will never be lost.
@@charlos6123, I hope you find your peace in Jesus. For He alone is the hope of the world
WOW! Two Wiseman sharing from their souls. Thank you. I'm walking with you.
"there was only ever one Christan, and that was Christ." Good quote
I caught that right away ....
With very much respect to both men here - I disagree with this soundbite. A “follower” of Christ - a “believer” of Christ - this is what He himself - God on Earth - ordered us each to be… And this is what many have, over the past 2000 years, truly become… Some are alive today… They are not “Christ” - of course they are not - but they are “Christians” - His chosen flock.
Gosh!!! That opening about belief in God, transcends everything i have learnt in my christian faith for 35 years!
Except JP is citing some intellectual who is trying to find significance in "my God, my God why have you forsaken me" not realizing that Jesus was singing Psalm 22. And so JPs hermeneutical method is to remove the significance of the psalm and only pay attention to the words recorded.
@@TheChristianImperialist You are of the hermeneutic school of shallowness.
@@johncollins8304 so shallow it is. Rather than trying to understand the crucifixion as 1st century jews and christians would understand "my God my God why hast thou forsaken me" I'm going to strip all context and reference and just look at the written historical words and draw an independent meaning.
@@TheChristianImperialist i thought the exact same thing. When the full context of the scriptures (all 66 books of the canon) are understood and believed through the Holy Spirit, the understanding of who Christ is can develop and grow in truth. Without the Spirit of God, it can only be understood as far as human reason will allow. I thoroughly love JP, but as a natural man his understanding of God's word cannot exceed what the flesh will allow, no matter how analytical and thoughtful those musings may be.
@B.D. Walters Amen
"The only thing that can break the spine of tyranny is the truth and the only way the truth can be told is (when) some individual tells it."
Let's remember that!
You know, you can tell the truth until you die...but until the public is willing to shuck off the candy coated lies they've been fed by the government agencies and corporations, the truth will fall on deaf ears and the tellers will continue to be labelled as "conspiracy theorist nutcases" and "antivaxxers".
the truth cannot be told to anyone it must be discovered
@@INCREASEthePOSITIVES said:
"the truth cannot be told to anyone it must be discovered"
I certainly agree with that statement. All the more reason why we shouldn't stop speaking the truth. Spoken truth is a seed and the seeker is one with a fertile mind. It is God that does the ultimate convicting.
@@angelus_solus And yet if it is not said then there is little chance of the yoke of lies ever being lifted.
I was faced a couple of years ago by a homosexual man who wanted to know my views on marriage. So I told him without any sugar coating. He was not happy, but grudgingly accepted that I'd given an honest answer.
JESUS CHRIST IS The way, The truthand The Life ✨🙌👑 john14,6
My two favorite teachers together!! 🤩 I would love to see this in Portuguese to share with my friends.
Basic value of why America is so divided: people who believe people are good
I could sit and watch these two talk all day... I enjoy watching both these men talk... I just wish that for one of their conversations I could be there and partake in it also...
Jordans first comment captures the idea of the Gospel . In admiting that he isn't good thats exactly what the Gospel says about humanity . None is good but God .
He has identified the problem. Let’s hope and pray that he sees the solution the good God has provided and be at peace, whatever the storm of life fired at him.
@@suetyang3832 confession breaks the chain of evil that binds us.
In god's perspective nothing is good or bad ..Everything is just way everything is..
@@Chutiya_Ladka01 you speak for your own god. people believe in different things so saying something like that as a fact is gonna offend other people with different beliefs. please watch what you say
Precisely!
when people ask him does he believe in God what he’s really wrestling with is grace
Precisely!
Amen
“We wouldn’t call it ‘Amazing!’ if we could understand Grace!” ~Tom Stark (The Papa smiling listening to JBP & DP as we read him some of the watcher’s comments) ❤️
I actually hurt for him.
He has such a brilliant mind, but he battles with ' Faith'.
He tries so hard to reason ; but if he could just release that all to God and accept the love and gift of Christ... I just pray he will.
I really pray a lot, because he has a huge influence and following. If he could harness that all for the purpose of Christ...
He'd make great Christian ;)
Wrestling with his grace? LMAO No, he's thinking of a way to answer a loaded question. Idiot.
I found this man by accident
I listen with intention
He makes reasoning for what a person goes thru in thier life clearer.
That alone is a gift from God
I cannot express adequately how grateful i am for Mr. Peterson and his wife. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for rising up, despite the opposition that comes your way, to share with us truths that are making a difference in our lives. I feel so fortunate and grateful. I pray that they and their family will be kept safe in every way by God.
I can't handle it when he cries man.... makes me cry.
A sign of weakness. his fake religion did this to him. otherwise a high iq individual
@@drrydog lol crying is a sign of weakness?? It's a natural body response...viewing that as a sign of weakness is like viewing sneezing as a sign of weakness. It's truly weak when one is too proud to show that they have emotion.
@@drrydog You obviously haven't had anyone come up and personally thank you for saving and/or changing their life for the better in a profound, deep and meaningful way. Only then, you will realize that this powerful statement will make any humble human react with a type of emotional up-welling.
nox scythe right to the face. Ah yes nihilism is so wise. please teach me how to be an emotionless Encyclopedia of facts. I need to get in touch of the reality that I am nothing more than bipedal protoplasm.
@@drrydog One hallmark of belief in the supernatural is pessimism. With pessimism there is a lot of negative emotion because absolute certainty is sought and is an unattainable goal. In other words, belief in the supernatural is a failure by design.
I thank God he made you.
That's the best interviewer I've seen yet.
Hats off to Dennis P.!
Love DP he’s been around a long time and always speaking truth and goodness. God Bless both of them
I TOTALLY agree! Love these two gentlemen! The only thing that kept coming to my mind, while listening, is that the ONLY person Who did live this life perfectly, was Jesus Christ, Himself! And, that's why He has the power to save!
I sometimes get the feeling that JP has thought about and realised so much about existence that he finds what he has learned almost unbearable
The burden/frustration of being a giant amongst children...
This is False. I almost agree with Peterson, however, this is a secular view. The Bible is pretty clear that there are believers and non believers. The beauty of God is the Mercy He shows us sinners, which Peterson understands. Perhaps Jordan represents a type of Doubting Thomas, as he denies this clear fact: God allows us to fail through life so that we might find our Faith:
Genesis 15:6 "Abram believed the LORD, and he credited it to him as righteousness."
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
Ephesians 2:9 "Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it." [Not by works but by Faith]
Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
This is further enforced by this realization:
John 14:9 "Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?"
The requirement to have seen Jesus and have faith that you've also seen the Father is to have first believed.
And again, belief enforces the power of our will:
Revelations 12:11 "And they overcame him [antichrist/the beast] by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
@@Ariel-oo1nc Answer me this.
If God "Allows us to fail through life so that we might find our Faith".....what happens if we don't find that Faith? In fact, if you don't have Faith to begin with, and we Fail, does that mean non-believers are all going to Hell by default, even if we led lives free of hurting others, had families, led others to success and contributed to Society in a measured and meaningful way? What becomes of of me, an Atheist, if I have led a principled life, helped others, contributed to Society and didn't hurt others? Since I am not part of "The Club of Faith I am doomed according to God? This is why Religion, and by extension, belief in a higher being, will always be a circular argument. A Benevolent God would put no such constraints on their Creation, putting traps and pitfalls in their path, gleefully waiting for them to fail only to throw us into a burning Pit when "He" knew all long it was an unobtainable and impossible exercise. The Bible may be full of Wisdom and Warnings and perhaps set people on a moral path but it is no proof of God. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and nobody has that evidence becasue it simply doesn't exist.
@@james_tiberius_kirk73 Well, by your response I can tell that you are already snickering at the idea of a God and Faith. So, this is a question that you hope puts me on the hot seat while you read and eat some popcorn. Am I wrong? Yes. If you don't believe that Jesus died for your sins and live according to the father's will (Ten Commandments, personal revelations) then yes, you are going to Hell. That's according to the Bible.
@@james_tiberius_kirk73 I am less curious to know why you think I am wrong, and more curious to know why you think you are right. As people, we create things in life, and if they don't meet our standards (ie. A meal we've burnt) we throw it in the trash. If you are a creation of God, and you don't meet his standards, why do you get to choose what survives or is thrown into the trash, but He who created you does not? Do you consider yourself a person who loves? If you have thrown anything out that is distasteful to you, then I would ask, why should I believe that you are capable of love? Do you not do the same as God does, who created you in His own image and likeness (Genesis 1:26, 2:7).
As a Catholic, I believe in Saints, throughout history, every time darkness threaten the children of God, he send his saints to bring about The Truth, which ultimately is God, when we look to the moral and political events, I strongly believe we’re living in one of the darkest times of all, and with all possible flaws one might have, Jordan Peterson is indeed an emissary of the Lord, one who dares to speak the truth!
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In the Scriptures, the word 'saint' refers to ALL those who believe in the Lord and are sanctified through their faith. 'And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.' The concept of a superior class, a spiritual elite which does the heavy lifting while the rest of the Church watches, is not very Scriptural, the Old Testament prophets notwithstanding. I hope that you take this as an ENCOURAGEMENT, my friend.
Your witness to the righteousness, grace, and mercy of our Lord Jesus is as valuable as that of the next guy.
As for Mr. Peterson, I have yet to hear an open confession of faith from him, but I hope that it will come soon enough.
@@jesusislordsavior6343 when I say God send His saints, I don’t mean at all an elite being, as you very well pointed out, we’re all called to sainthood.
I have faith, Mr. Peterson is reaching out his terms with the All Mighty.
@@Tabatista281178
Well understood. God be with you.
Catholicism is pagan, it's the worship of the virgin Mary.
@@scottbranham3309 untrue. We venerate her though
This conversation has prompted me to purchase one of your books plus audio narration and I am SUPER THRILLED to say I'm about to press play and enjoy the mundane rituals of life while we "spend a moment together in deep contemplation" Thank you so much. For just being who YOU are. 😊💜
Such an honor to live in this time to learn from Dr. Peterson! Thank God!
What a humble man. I truly believe that Jorden Peterson is a blessing in this time of suffering in the world. Thank you, God, for all you do and may you have the glory. Amen.
god is fiction
Keith Bentham: Spoken like a truly heartless and self-centered individual. Why comment negatively to someone who opens their heart and soul to share thanks and admiration. There are so many other places available for your disheartening sentiment. It beggars belief that you would single Jamie Jenkins out. That said... may God bless you and bring you joy and peace.
Because Keith is weak. He is not alone. Most are
@@keithbentham4203 God is what you make it.
@Jack Jonas spoken as a young person still intrigued by dorm room philosophy. You don't think we all had that same exact thought when we were young and idealistic? If you'd take a moment to actually consider if "Christians follow blindly", you'll see how universal and shallow an argument that really is
I’ve watched damn near 100 videos on Dr. JP if not more and I can say without a doubt in my mind this is my favorite. I’m going to clean my room rn
Jordan is absolutely amazing.....
He gives so much hope to those in need....
Thank you Jordan for speaking the truth about how education has taken a position to teach hate.
I am so eternally grateful as a young man to have this content available for free. I aim to make use of this wisdom throughout my lifetime. Cheerio.
Dear Jordan, a hello and a thank you from just another stranger (living in a Russian town by the way) who's suffering much less thanks to you being with us all.
Thank you Jordan Peterson! So enjoy hearing your information. I am able to maneuver through life with a different perspective and have more accomplishments.
Big hugs
I wish everyone would listen to this stuff, it’d be a different world we’d live in.
As long as the religious nonsense was left out, yes.
Jordan has had the most impact on my life unlike any other dead or alive ,except for the bible. I am so happy that I got to witness him alive instead of just reading about him in a history book . His podcasts have inspired a major change in my life. Because of him I am alive and can be there for my kids and hopefully I can be the sanest person at a funeral. I continue to work on this goal. 🙏
and he remains humble, amazing. If I were him, I would be so damn boastful. It's hard to be humble when u r as great as I am, but he is.
You are God’s gift to humanity, Dr Peterson. Your brilliance and wisdom is one of a kind. I am so blessed to be listening to most of your speeches and interviews. Be blessed 😇… listener from Australia
I love this man. I love this man. He has changed my life. May God smile on him always.
Lets not allow that his eloquence, intelligence and well meaning intentions for humanity turn him into and idole. I absolutely love how humble he is, I have learned a lot from his talks and teachings. however, he is a channel that brings truth not the ultimate truth. We need to continue coming to the Father (God) the perfector of our faith. Is important to apply his wisdom without putting aside our relationship with God. God bless you so much Dr Peterson.
Yes.. 'For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.' Eph 2:8-9 Although we are unworthy, there is not other way to come to Him but through Christ. So although we are forever unworthy, and none of us are good enough to claim ultimate faith in God (we're imperfect) but Christ paid the only price that matters. His blood covers us so God doesn't see us, but the perfect blood.
Fascinating how truth and the seeking of truth led Jordan literally to Christ, despite the efforts of almost our entire culture to frame God or religion as bereft and a decrepit worldview.
LISTEN CAREFULLY, Especially if you are making your living being “a teacher”!!
Thank you Dennis for bringing Dr Peterson to us all again he is undoubtedly one of the great orators of our time a deeply passionate man of great honesty one of a kind .
I too, thank The Almighty for the deep blessing and treasure that IS JORDAN PETERSON. I also add my amen to ALL those prayers said on his and his family’s behalf. Awesome awesome awesome content. So needed. SHARING!! 😍
"God only knows what you'd be if you believed. and so.. well I try to act like I believe. but I never claim that I manage it"
This.
If he changed the word believe to know, then that Would make sense.
@@GuerillaTunes arguable. In my Catholic Christian faith tradition, the opposite of believe is not disbelieve or doubt, it's disobey. To believe is to obey.
That's why a non-practicing Catholic isn't a Catholic until they come back.
@@captainmaim ah okay, im muslim. As we see it its either to believe of not believe. Although the strength of your faith varies from time to time. But nobody can ever be fully certain and I think its a beautiful wisdom behind that. And I think its this that jordan is getting a little twisted. Not staying true to what you believe is sinning. But thats not unforgivable. Good deeds cover bad deeds. Lord knows best
@@GuerillaTunes AMEN! It's not obvious... lol.
English can be stupid... sometimes "believe" means "trust" and somehow "belie" (pronounced Be-Lie) means "to disprove."
@@captainmaim yea belief is trust. Thats why ppl of high faith dont worry and fear (much). Because they trust that Whatever happens happens for the best. Belief should never be blind tho. Should be based on evidence, inspiration, experience and common sense. So its a good idea to try to disprove what you believe. And out course pray to the creator to be guided to Whatever is true. One might have to go a real thorny path for that truth tho. Maybe he is on that path?
This remarkable man, Jordan, is what's needed in these turbulent times.
Thank you, God.
No philisophy can save you: ONLY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, his payment for your and my sin on Calvary
We can't know that yet. Even evil men [like Peterson] are used by God for good but Peterson could still lead more away from Christ with his own misunderstanding of Christianity.
@Sjúrður Højgaard, it’s mythology.
Regardless, if the myth is true, he only had a bad weekend and is having a great time with his dad.
Meantime, 25,000 children die every day.
Saw him in person this year. He's as real and brutally honest today as he was when he had this interview..bless him he is a life changer❤
I wasn't sure I had time to listen to this entire conversation. Suddenly it's over, I completely left behind what I was doing and now it's suddenly over and I just want it to keep going!
This man is a legend. I'm so grateful to live in a time when this man exists. Jordan Peterson has allowed me to truly open up my mind to a better life and I will never forget that. I wish the very best for him and his family.
I feel the same way. We who are alive at the same time are witnessing true greatness unfold from the heart of Jordan Peterson. He’s willing to tell the truth that is inside him because he’s more afraid of the lies that will take root and choke out the light. Mankind is not good except by daily choices to do better. He’s gifted with a vocabulary, education and the brains to pull it all together into a coherent narrative. Basically he is saying, Don’t lie , Don’t Cheat, Don’t Blane others for your stupidity.. Don’t be un ungrateful blob. Don’t be lazy and We are not all created equal. You will know when you are in the presence of someone greater than you are because THEY Inspire you to actually become the best you can be... continually .
Goggle products Owen Benjamin... you are a jealous jackass.
@Goggle products many people agree with me that are influential individuals from many different backgrounds. Joe Rogan, Jocko Willick, Shapiro, Rubin, Crowder, Harris, the list goes on. Democrats, republicans, independents, etc etc. You think all these peeps are brain washed fools? You sound bitter and angry and should take the time to really listen to what Mr. Peterson has to say. You might learn something.
Goggle, put aside your weakness and recognize wisdom
@Goggle products My guess is that you have never been liked or praised.
I have grown so much listening to Doctor Jordan Peterson. God bless his soul and his whole family. Live long and prosper my friend.
Me too! I am not a socialist anymore
This was well worth the time. The most beautiful thing in life is to see God at work in a person’s life.
Mr Peterson is far more humble than I realized. Shalom
These are two of the most brilliant and beautiful people alive today.
I feel blessed to listen to them both. They’re honest & have so much integrity.
I can honestly say I grew up with a broken family and I loved my mother and my stepfather for doing the best they can but hearing Jordan Peterson speak truly helps me put everything together and come at peace. Thank you.
I'm so impressed with the depth of his gratitude. What a great man.
God puts his soldiers when they are needed. God is great, and thank you Dennis for this interview. Jordan Peterson, I pray for you every day as a way to thank God for good people like you. Thank you 🙏🏻
I worked in a palliative ward and felt that everybody should have that experience. There's so much to learn from people who are sick, at the end of their lives and that coupled with personal characteristics and experiences including the one they're currently living in the ward each day. It's humbling if you allow yourself to observe it all.
One of my most favorite interviews ever. 2 of my most favorite human beings too.
Who is the other?
Peterson, Prager, Shapiro
@@helenhusted889 Hell yes, my perfect triangle too...good to know Im not alone hehe
Knowles for me
Imagine a conversation between j. Peterson and Carl sagan
"We do not need to say we believe - we need to act it out" - so well put! It really is a privilege to share the information space with people like him.
This is false
@@blakebunch4485 I'd like to answer this since the commenter did not. It's not exactly "not true", however faith and attempting to follow Christ is not ALL based on works, or our actions in life. If that were so, nobody could ever cut the mustard at all, because we ALL fall short. It's more about your repentance for bad actions and forgiveness. Peterson has said he "isn't good enough" to say he believes in God. He never will be. None are. But with Jesus, the point is you bring your sinful self to Him and He helps create in you the person you need to be. The argument between protestant and Catholic has always been works or faith and i think it's very silly, since i believe it takes both very much. Idk what you'd call me. I simply call myself a Christian. The thing is, if one makes the decision in their heart and soul to follow Christ, there's no way their works or actions don't improve. They must. So one comes along with the other. But Peterson must understand that he will never be good enough. None are. He must humble himself and bring himself, sinfulness and all, before God. Repent and accept the love of God. That's all. Good works, or better works simply follow that. But nobody would be perfect because then we wouldn't need God. We would be God.
@@blakebunch4485 someone commented that it was false to say we need to "act out" our beliefs, and you asked "why's that?" That's why I put it the way i did. Of course, it is not false. We do, to the best we can achieve, need to act out our beliefs and live them in our lives. But, that's not all there is to it. It just seems to me that Peterson is waiting for a perfection that will never arrive, if he thinks he must be "good enough" before he surrenders himself to God. Again, if any of us were good enough, we wouldn't need Jesus, or his sacrifice, because we would just be perfect. Don't get me wrong, i love Jordan Peterson. But to say anyone isn't "good enough" to state that they believe, well, that's the point, none are. Not even the very best human on earth is. We are supposed to unashamedly believe and unashamedly say so. We don't need to wait until we are "good enough" because God knows we aren't and he loves us anyway and wants us to come to him anyway. Now, i definitely don't agree that one can stay in their awful, sinful, behaviors and still claim to follow Jesus. Again, once you surrender yourself and decide to follow that path, your works in this world will change, because you have chosen this path.
Probably the most powerful conversation I’ve ever experienced in my 40 years. JP had me in tears, not by anything sad but by speaking so eloquently about the suffering and malevolence surrounding us and deciding not to become bitter and resentful.
Idk how to say it but there’s something VERY profound about Jordan Peterson in terms of his ability to vocalize real pain while refusing to fall into it. It’s beyond inspiring…I actually tear up whenever I think about it too much, because it’s that very specific pain we all share but are never willing to burden others with.
Lots of love and thanks from London Ontario
Am I alone in the fact that as we live through true pain, true tragedy, conversations like these become so utterly important? They hit home in a new way. I don’t know how else to explain it. We reach a point, when we’ve suffered enough, that really deep discussions like this resonate. As much as we wish we could share them with those that haven’t, we simply can’t. It will bounce right off of them. There’s greater meaning from these words than those from sheltered lives can appreciate
Jordan, while you are wondering about the adversaries who make serious problems for you, and for your family as a kind of byproduct , consider God in the midst of it all. Your mind, your graceful sharing of thought and study in the utmost balanced and thoughtful manner is a gift from God. He uses what you have been given as he sees best, for his own purposes. We do not, probably cannot , understand the sense of it all. Stay strong. Have confidence that you are doing what you must and to the best of your ability. You can do no more , and certainly no less, than to surrender to whatever comes next. God bless you with his peace that passes all understanding.