2020 Volvo XC60 Polestar Engineered | Not Quite An XC60 R...
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2019
- If you thought that the 400 horsepower XC60 T8 was Volvo's answer to the Audi SQ5, you're apparently wrong, that's what the new XC60 Polestar Engineered is for. Using the same basic PHEV system, the XC60 PE dials the power up to 415 ponies, adds Öhlins adjustable dampers, fender flares for bigger tires and general aesthetic tweaks. Does the combination of upgrades make this the successor to the now-defunct R brand? Not quite.
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Excellent review thanks Alex,I would love to buy one of these XC60 but my XC70 is still going strong and I love it🇬🇧👍🏻
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The yellow seat belts are cool. Other manufacturers should offer brightly colored seat belts....safety can be a fashion statement. I am looking forward to a longer term test of this vehicle. Miss your analysis of rear seats and cargo space.
Thank you Alex! Nice review!
Alex, very helpful review. From the stock suspension tuning, is it as soft as it will go already or can it be made any less firm from stock? I have a xc60 with air and 21's and am wondering if this P with 21's with dialed softer susp settings would be at all comparable? I don't really want a noticeably bumpier ride, but I would trade slightly bumpier for better handling overall.
Excellent review Alex
Alex, any update on the XC-40 hybrid? Or plugin hybrid? When will we see it in the US?
Full electric XC40 launches on Wednesday
beautiful wheels and braking system, looks stunning
What would I get at that price? The same as you - T8 Inscription. That's the current plan unless someone else comes out with with a plug-in hybrid in the same size that is nice looking, punchy and tuned toward comfort. Oh, and not ugly so no Lexus' need apply. Thanks for the review and for the others you've done on the XC60.
Omg
What color is this! It’s beautiful 😍
Osmium Grey
More Volvo reviews from Alex? Yes please.
Very nice... yet I'm not convinced I want a full-on "performance" SUV. Pretty sure I'd go for the regular T-8 Inscription model, like Alex mentions at the end of the video.
Such a good looking car
I love my XC60 but I also can't wait for my lease to be up in 2 years when the Polestar 2 will hopefully be available.
Ditto.
Marc Selwan What engine do you have and how much is it a month? Thanks
Alright then, I’ll get this one
I don't understand the dampers thing or the individual drive modes combination: "Polestar on the powertrain characteristics, high steering force ..." and what the heck is "Pure Mode"? I wish I could pick a car based on ride comfort instead of gas mileage, but alas ... at over $4.25/ gallon in CA ...
Nice backdrop.
Im new n ty for this..ty.
If you adjust aero suspension of the normal T8 to dynamic, is it getting any close to the stiffness of the öhlins suspension?
Nowhere near...
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thanks for the answer! I thought so, but I was uncertain, so I had to ask!
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You the man Alex!
Beautiful car. I'm waiting for an Acura RDX Type S
Acura needs to make it happen... might be a while though... 2023?? Would definitely consider one as an all around one car garage.
Hi Alex! Thank you for all your amazing review videos! I am a CA resident and I recently bought a 2018 used T8 Inscription. I absolutely love it (thanks for the reco), but when I went to the DMV in Los Angeles they said the vehicle isn't available for car pool lane certification. It didn't seem right, but am I missing something? Would be great to hear your thoughts here. Thanks as always!
The DMV is the wrong place to go, you have to submit the documentation by mail. If the car is used then you have to be sure that the first owner 1) didn't get stickers already and 2) if they were forced to chose between stickers and the rebate that they didn't choose the rebate.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thank you, Alex! My last 3 cars have been a Honda Fit, a Mazda 3, and now my XC60 - all thanks to your reviews. Cheers!
About to start commenting, "LONG LIVE THE SEDANS!!" on every crossover video I see.
Can we please #SaveTheWagon before we save the sedan?
@@rightlanehog3151 I will agree with you on that. More wagons need to come back to the States.
@@eagletalon9735 Wagons are coming back but most are in the $50-100,000 range. We need more #WagonsForTheRestOfUs
Amazing
why can't the engine recharge the batteries except plugging in? this never made sense to me 🤔
Because you need a motor/generator in the gearbox to do that. T8 is a T6 with a separate electric motor added to the rear axle. You can't safely brake rear wheels with a generator without risking oversteer (think pulling the handbrake handle). It's a cheap/low-effort way to get on the electric bandwagon.
It can. The car will recharge to about 80% if you engage charge mode.
It has a motor/generator unit in the transaxle for this exact reason. All T8s have a charge mode.
@@Ficon the T8 has always regen brakes. It also offers different regen modes depending how aggressive
Is charging "required" ? or it's self-charging?
Rodney Durso It’s required it’s a plug-in Hybrid
You can charge while you drive. I just got one, it's a great car!
Alex. Is “twiddle” a technical term? LOL
The only real reason for these is the R models have been replaced by the Polestar Engineered ones.
极星啊
Top motor 100%
Yes mechanical AWD might help with torque steer and off-road venturing (no one is taking their luxury SUV off-road) -- buy this Volvo gets INCREDIBLE fuel economy with 415HP -- no other manufacturer is doing this!
It makes me sad that Lexus forgot about utility in their SUV. RX is just a long comfortable hatchback. The trunk is small for the vehicle of its size. :(
Lexus knows what their customers want.. And they sell over 110,000 RX a year... Market has spoken.
This is a very shallow answer :)
Yes, RX is the most popular Lexus model.
It is a "good car" - speaking from my personal experience.
Please remember that perfect car doesn`t exist so people do not have as much choice as it seems. Especially since reliability is not a high priority for the Germans anymore...
Q1: would Lexus sell more?
Q2: what the actual users complains are? I am a user and I complain. :)
Q3: are owners regretting their choice?
... and so on.
Actually rx has better appeal than acura mdx , and some of the people dont want to bet their money on german unreliable suvs.
@@divjot13 It makes me sad how few people can read a sentence and understand it :)
@@valdius85imo the xc60 is perfect. i just wish the t8 versions had fog lights. that’s such an L
Man, these cars are getting soooo complicated! I'm still happy with my 2015.5 XC60 R-design and it's look. Sure, I wish that i had some of the newer features, especially the adjustable dampers. I liked when the R-design meant something more. There would have been no way I'm driving a Volvo if it wasn't for the look of the r-design trim and polestar addition.
After 3 years my volvo electronics have issues. Like shutting down while driving on the highway
What is this color name?
Mohamed Abdel Kader Osmium Grey Metallic
@@Pridyyy Thank you
Actually, Polestar tunings are a bit conservative. That few extra ponies in this one isn't going to impress anyone. On P2 cars, there are quite a few tuners could do a great job in bring out true colors of what P2 engines can do. I wonder if these new bread of Volvo engines could take the kind pressure like the P2 can. In any case, making over 300bhp on a 2 liter engine is already quite an achievement by itself.
Alofzico they got 528 HP on the T5 engine with Lynk&Co and have already got 450 HP out of a T6 twincharged engine :)
Those engines are designed to take stress without any thing wrong.
Their engine is one of the best if not the best 4 cylinder now :)
@@lookcloser4536 Thanx for the heads up. At least i know what I should do when it's time for me to upgrade.
Alofzico You’re welcome :)
It should be a bit more fabulous for that price. However super fuel efficient with that much power and torque....hmmm
Tiny super and turbo charged engines are not for me. Normally aspirated engines have gotten rare.
Usabke as cofvefe
Its basically an appearance package
Appearance, handling, suspension and a teeny-tiny bit more power. The oddity of course is that the T8 is a massive power/performance bump over the T6 but didn't have the other bits you'd normally get in a "performance model"
@@AAutoBuyersGuide too much power up front. not enough in the back. not a fan of the torque steer.
Hugh Jassol you basically didn’t even watch the video.
I miss the sound level results
We will have them when we get this at home for a full test
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thank you
All that power and torque and it’s still significantly worse performing than the BMW X3/4 M40i
Volvo does luxury very well, but Polestar really hasn’t ever made anything worth talking about in the last decade
What I’m saying is, brilliant car but I don’t see why they even bother trying to compete with M/Quattro/AMG.
This suspension is so stupid. Performance SUVs in general don't make any sense. I've heard the head toss makes people nauseous. Haven't got to pricing yet but I doubt anyone is gonna take their $80K SUV to the track to chew through $2000 tires and $1000 brake pads/rotors, head (and lunch) tossing all the way....
On the positive side, it brings some attention to the brand. For some people the exclusive badge on top of an exclusive badge is crucial. I see most BMW Ms SUVs in the very centre of my city and rarely out on the roads. ;)
Remember that they will still produce the S and V60. And for the XC’s defense, it allows to have a high riding position and a much more comfortable suspension that has more presence. This suspension setting is simple but really really really nice !
Performance SUVs makes sense for one car garage. If you dont want to pay maintenance and insurance on your daily + weekender people get something like this... but in my opinion if you can afford this you can afford a second car. I prefer the later of course.
DreiZ Yeah the average family will need practicality, space and they don’t have the means to buy 2 cars. The parents maybe will want some fun and excitement in their family car so this SUV makes sense. You could ask yourself why they don’t buy a wagon which does that better and is more fun due to the low ground clearance and aerodynamics :)
Myself, I prefer the V60 over the XC60 and have ordered one in the PSE trim, but in our times SUVs are more used in a « statement ». Having a high ride vehicle means for the buyers being higher than the average person, and this sentiment of superiority motivates many buyers into buying crappy FWD SUVs that are not even beautiful or qualitative.
The thing with Performance SUVs and especially Volvo, Audi or Alfa Romeo is that they achieved to get a proper Sport Utility Vehicle !
@@lookcloser4536 As you said there is a wagon option. Truthfully a sedan is fine for families too. Only real justification is weather but I feel like this is on summer tires. It just doesn't make any sense
not one mention of an Outback....weird.
Because yellow seatbelts obviously make you faster
And white stripes on the bonnet on Mustang make its superfast !!! O.0 huh dumb dumber dumb as.
tom eng I don’t know what you’re getting at. My comment was a joke Alex made when he previously reviewed a polestar
265 width is nothing new on the XC60. Has been available since 2018. It’s a T8 with a mild tune and unnecessarily large front brakes.
Very nice informative video. IMHO, I'd pass on Volvo. An engine that has SC and turbo, plus electric... is just begging for it!! Yikes!! 😳😳
Alex one of the best reviewers on utube but whats up with the intro. That should be changed just don’t fit the character of the channel am I the only one who find it annoying as heck.
Premium brands make money selling utter nonsense cars like "sport" SUVs.
An SUV will never be a sport car, no matter how many Polestar or M stickers you put onto it!
15 HP more power does not do anything in a track conditions with car like this. Ir is the CG which limits you and with an SUV the CG is HIGH.
So have a car with a stiff suspension which is not a sport capable car (yes you can tune it don manually but is so much inconvenient), the seats are compromised, with fewer options but at higher prize.
And on this particular car the power balance FWD-RWD is so bad that it is hardly a track car.
Overall a BS cars for those who have no idea about sport but have thick wallets instead.
Need a proper "sporty" car? Go and get S60 T6 Polestar engineered with AWD on high level.
Need a real sport car? Have money? Go and get the Polestar 1 where the power balance is right in place and CG is where it should be!
I have driven the s40, xc70 now the xc60. After 3 years the dashboard electric fails and goes dark (dead) while driving... had to park on the side of the highway to restart with no problem... I donno.. if I trust buying a Volvo. Lease is okay. But not buy
Jolly Green the S40 and XC70 don’t exist on the SPA platform, so the electrics are different.
@@EDHBlvd I am not going to convince the world that Volvo's electronics are faulty. This is my experience. I bought a s40 2006. Leased a xc 70 2013, now on the xc60. Both the s40 and xc70. The electronics went dead. For the xc60. My wife was trying to make a left turn waiting for traffic to clear. The auto stop engine activated like normal. Then the whole car shit down
She had to restart it. Cars were beeping. Almost got hit from behind because no one expected her to dead stop in the middle of an intersection.
So thata my experience... your volvo never had an issue? Good for u... but heaven above is tell me to ditch my lease in 3 months
Agree- sadly Volvo has become like the Swedish/Chinese bmw but in all the worst ways in terms of reliability. As a lease machine I’d check it out, but hell no would I ever own one of these out of warranty.
Jolly Green the auto atop function activated on a 2018 Golf while i was releasing the clutch and rolling into a roundabout... since then i turned it off.
Now days I just don't feel these luxury brands worth their price. I'm always looking at Korean brands with same money. They just give lot more than others it's hard to ignore Korean brands now.
ARkong DRkong with the new soul and Niro, telluride and Santa Fe etc. They are really stepping us their game.
Hard to comprehend why they drain all that money for electric vehicles and all the innovation that takes place and new technologies just visualize what they could've done with e85 engines. V12's V10 and big block v8's and not talking about oil from places like Libya or Iran but corn from places like Iowa and Kansas. Trucks and Luxury SUV with powerful engines that can take you and your family to the lake and a 5th wheel. I've seen people on tv having the pay $800 for a month of electricity use in Australia could you imagine paying premium money for an electric car and your electric bill might be as big as the car payment.
Seems like I've read that industrial hemp makes a good bio fuel. That would leave the corn for food uses.
That’s easy to say, but if they had switched to a V8, they would have to pay pollution taxes in the EU. Volvo is European and they do European cars.
I understand your fears in electric payment but normally, at least in Europe, there are free taxes, help from the government and free electricity (you can pay a home wallplug for your Volvo but that’s it) .)
@@lookcloser4536 Volvo is European but was once owned by Ford and some models are made in Ridgeville, Berkeley County, South Carolina. The plant is the production home of the all new S60 mid-size sedan, and it will produce the next generation XC90 sport utility vehicle around 2022. With the two car lines, the plant has the capacity to produce up to 150,000 cars annually.
The American-built S60s are exported around the world through the Port of Charleston. They also make trucks here. Why would they have to pay pollution taxes if they're using corn gas?
93% of all corn is grown in the united states is never fed directly to people, but instead used as livestock feed. Corn used to produce ethanol contains a high amount of starch and is not easily digestible by humans. I really hope they used switchgrass. E85 is widely used in SWEDEN most of that fuel is imported from Italy and Brazil. Ethanol first use was in power engines in 1826 and later after the civil war Henry Ford's Model T in 1908 was fueled by ethanol. If you used an electric battery powered weed eater you would know these electric cars are going to suck. Especially during snow and other bad weather if you are out in the middle of nowhere your not going to be able to plug these cars up anywhere but you can dump a gas can full of alcohol in the tank and drive back home. Simple neat and could be the fuel answer of the future but our governments and corps are going towards electric. I think its because they want more money from electric companies. We;'re talking $100's of billions of dollars from electric use.
LongHuII That’s a good idea yeah but using E85, a classic petrol engine will need more fuel and therefore have a higher MPG. It is used in Sweden yeah but mostly in race cars. Volvo used e85 since they began their WTCC trial :)
V8’s fuel consumption is already high and pollutive, so I don’t see the point in making High cylinder ethanol engines. Otherwise, their current petrol engines and their previous 5 cylinder take E85 without difficulties, they Engineered it to do so :)
73k and i have to adjust my own dampers? Sorry no
I like the fact they can be independently adjusted and dont rely on electronics or the vehicle's infotainment. They are already in a tech-laden vehicle, but most just set it and forget it, so nothing really lost in my mind.
How polestar has fallen. Polestar used to mean something. No longer. Pity.
Huh? They are a really new brand name that was just a race team until a decade ago. What timeframe and color of glasses are you using for your statement?
Alan Bowers Exactly!!!
I could buy a corvette for that money
The Polestar logo is very underwhelming...
Lennox Lewis I miss the blue
I remember when Volvo had the most simple and most steadfast engineering. Bring back the 240 wagon and P1800. #MakeVolvoSwedishAgain
Volvo is still Swedish.
@@shammyh Sorry to burst your bubble, Volvo is wholly owned by Geely which is in turn owned by the China Communist Party.
I'm not sure where you get this from. The *only* Volvo made in China sold in the USA is the S90 which is the lowest volume sedan in the lineup. The best selling sedan is made in the USA and the rest of the lineup is made in Sweden or Belgium. Volvo's plan is to build *more* in the USA, not less. So the next gen XC90 is coming to South Carolina as well.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide I'm just following the money.
@@dominicfong6341 Exactly.
costly, poor performance... running cost and insurance premium extremely high...
Poor performance? Lol
Not reliable at all..too sad...
I hate this 4 cylinder sound🤢
This is an idiotic amount of money for an XC60. At $73,000, you can get a Porsche Cayenne which is not a Chinese-made front-wheel-drive car (and has a far better interior space) or a BMW X5 50i if you want something much faster than the Volvo. Even if you don't go crazy with Volvo options, BWM X3 M40i is just as fast with a nice-sounding straight six engine and proper RWD driving dynamics. And if you don't care about driving dynamics and just want tech and a nice interior, get a Hyundai Palisade.
Remember than this gets a $5000 tax credit plus up to $5000 in state incentives which an X3, SQ5 and GLC 43 would not get. That makes this less expensive than comparable models. It's also worth noting that this is made in Sweden.
You'd have to at least get a GTS or even a Turbo to match the performance of the XC60 T8/P*. Even my T6 XC60 is faster than a stock Cayenne off the line. :-P
Further, in top spec, I don't find the Porsche to be any better overall on the interior than the Volvo. And yes, I've driven both, both in top interior specs.
Yes, the Porsche is a bit more flashy... but you also have to live with gloss-black everywhere. The infotainment is worse and the center console buttons are pretty bad.
The Porsche will handle significantly better in the curves/bends than the Volvo, and in the Turbo spec, it's certainly much more fun to rev out, but that's about it.
If you actually look at equally-equipped models, the Volvo is cheaper, by a fair bit.
Finally, what's with the "Chinese-made" as a negative? Volvo engines are made in Sweden, the transmissions are Japanese, and the electronics are German, regardless of assembly location.
Final assembly can be in the USA, in Sweden, in Belgium, or in China.
It's mostly made by robots regardless, and there is no quality difference between the various assembly plants.
In fact, if anything, the Chinese plant was so insistent on matching the European quality, they actually had BETTER BUILD QUALITY than the Swedish or Belgian plants.
The USA plant is actually the one that's the newest, and is requiring the most effort to catch up to the others. ;-)
Geely/Volvo were quite smart in how they structured Volvo. Geely makes plenty of cut-rate cheaper Volvo-derived cars, but they're Chinese-market only.
@@shammyh T8 does 0-60 in 4.9 seconds, base Cayenne in 5.1. You do not need the GTS. Interior quality is subjective - I find Volvo seats uncomfortable and Cayenne for sure has more rear space (rear-facing car seats in XC60 wit a tall driver are a no-go).
@@AAutoBuyersGuide Would it actually be less expensive though? X3 M40i is 55k, X5 40i is 62k, Cayenne is 66k. All would still be on par with the XC60 T8 as you have it specced AFTER the tax rebates. If you are shopping on driving dynamics/refinement (as I do), the value argument about which car has more cameras and electronic gizmos no one actually uses is irrelevant.
Yes because the Volvo is fully loaded and you’d have to add tons of equipment to the GLC, Q5, X3 etc to comparably equip them
Waiting for all electric. No point to buy a new car at this point in time, holding my money for a real EV SUV.. cough cough rivian
Let's see if Rivian will be anything other than vaporware. Cough cough Fisker.
EV still not realistic for real world activity
Those wheels are too big!
It's a 4800 lb station wagon that costs $73000... .
A very complicated vehicle.
Who is going to buy this, seriously?
Adjustable suspension for the track. Why bother?
Probably lose $20,000 when it drives off the lot.
not a volvo fan
Unreliable junk. When your front wheels are doing a burnouts/torque steering, that's not luxury. This T8 design is poorly programmed and just not enough power in the rear. That twin charged over boosted four cylinder will not make it through the warranty period.
And you know this by facts? or just wanted to say something?