Making the Best Forestry Industry EVER In Cities Skylines 2! | MC #25
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The Lewis Lumber Company is looking to expand into an area with a temperate climate to expand and diversify their lumber offerings. County Executive King catches wind of this, and reached out to pitch Magnolia County as their perfect new home. This would not only increase the tax base and improve the local economy, but also prevent further growth and development of Bend. After visiting the site and being offered generous tax subsidies, the company agrees to make Magnolia county home..
In this episode, we'll build this new industry, using every trick at our disposal to make it look great. We'll use the tree controller mod and line tool to make an industry area that looks incredibly realistic. We'll also create what I believe might be one of the first custom cargo terminals in the game... even if it falls a bit short of actually working.
We'll also expand Bend by a few blocks on the periphery in what might be one of my favorite builds in the series. Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 - What is Chuckles up to....?
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@@Cheetos5524 factor is pretty great, especially when you have horriod ADHD which means forgetting to eat and you also hate cooking. Being able to quickly make a hearty meal is honestly amazing
I used to buy Factor, but I found myself adding spices/seasoning to the food to make it edible. I understand the convenience of it, but when my own cooked meals taste better (and cost me less to buy the ingredients to prepare), I'm gonna stick to what tastes better. 🙂
I honestly love the custom lumber area but you forgot to build a fire department! 😆 As for a name for the new township it should probably be related to the new lumber company, so Lewis... something: Lewis Village, Lewisville, Lewis Mills, Lewis River, etc. I really enjoyed today's video.
Also, sometime in the future when you're feeling particularly silly please name a future town Otisburg as a reference to Superman (1978).
I’m so sick of seeing factor on like 95% of all youtube videos more so given my hate of hello fresh
Hey Phil, I would say that it actually makes sense for that soccer field to be lower than the grade. We have them everywhere where I live. They double as flood control. With the constant harvesting of trees, those hills won’t absorb as much water as they used to.
Thats actually a really good shout. I live in Canada, and after reading your comment I can think of a few pitches that are sunk. Never really thought about it before but that makes a lot of sense lol.
💯 agreed!
@@Amm17ar yeah, all of our flood control overflow reservoirs are parks
Yes I agree, and the soccer field needs high fencing, at least on the sides that have the soccer goals. Stray balls into the traffic is not a good thing. The field could also benefit from some lighting.
Except you're on a hill next to the river. They probably would just lead the water straight to the rivier instead. A small ditch on the edges of the treefarms would probably do the trick.
I like the "more intimate" city tour. A mix of the old before and afters, and a bit of following citizens around using the city is nice!
I agree, I was have said a few times that the city tours actually show you more of the before than the after, and it's not really interesting to see the before when it's just forest, especially as CPP does such an amazing job detailing. This was better, I think we don't need to see every before space if it was forest. I do like how it ended, that really gives an idea of how much it changes.
Man, this one looks fantastic. I really like the forestry surface, makes it feel like there's a dense carpet of pine needles or leaves on the ground beneath all the trees.
This.
I must admit, I don't like it at all
Totally agree I love it as well
No
Magnolia County: Forest Fires are very common here
Phil: WE NEED MORE TREES!!!
Do not remove the surface!
Trees take up a LOT of resources from the soil. As a matter of fact, most forest's soil are really poor in nutrients (hence why most dense forests have no grass). The soil turns more brown-ish and eventually, some sort of humus is manually added so it becomes more favourable for the industry
And for the new district, what about "Lewis New Grounds"?
Lastly, the tour is better! I appreciated it, really 😊
Edit for the people: goddamn it, I mean the first 10m of soil is very poor to sustain grass, not only due to the forest casting shadows, but for the trees stealing most of the nutrients for themselves
I thought dense forests typically don't have much grass is because the trees steal all the sunlight. Leaving the forest floor mostly in the shade
@@BlarghMeow It's a combination of both things, although the lack of light is probably the primary reason.
And that's especially true of the kinds of trees typically planted for forestry... e.g. fast-growing pines. Even where they're not blocking out all the light, nothing grows beneath them.
forests are not poor in soil nutrients its a dense bed of decomposing organic matter lol and grass doesn't grow because sunlight and competition
@@toddblankenship7164 yes, they are poor in soil nutrients, specially on the surface layers. About 10m down they become richer bevause the roots feed from there
the way this guy builds cities is almost like a signature that you would write on a check. everybody can easily understand how it was done, but nobody can make it as pretty (or efficient) as he does.
New CPP video, day is already better!
Hope you like this one!
This looks awesome. Suggestion: the neighbourhood football pitch probably should have a fence behind the goal area to prevent balls being kicked onto the road and stop kids running out onto the road. Other sides probably don't need a fence.
Seconding this. Most new fields have fencing (or dense bushes like the asset's hedge) along any nearby roads. The trees would be fine for the residential loop as they are farther out, but the collector/arterial definitely should.
Cole from Maine here. love what you did with the forestry industry! Being from Maine, logging is a huge industry here. In Maine, hunting, hiking and snowmobiling are big recreational past times, and often take place in the logging and timber lots that are currently not being cut. There are logging roads that go between the different wood lots for easy access for heavy equipment, and allow for the recreational activities. Would be cool to see this implemented, maybe with adding paths or dirt roads that break up the different trees of different ages, with the odd hunting cabin or camp ground. Often times abandoned and unused rail lines are used as hiking, hunting and snowmobile trails. Maybe an abandoned rail line could be added looking like it once ran through the area before the uses and industries changed. Just a thought to make the area look like it has a richer history and multiple uses.
Also, my suggestion for the town name for the new industry area would be Lewiston. Lewis Lumber Company is expanding, and there's a city in Maine called Lewiston that used to be a big mill town, I think it would be a fitting name for Lewis Lumber Company and their new lumber mill and a fun nod to Lewiston Maine.
I think a perfect example of the logging roads I'm talking about would be north of Sebec Lake in Maine. Check out google maps. Definitely respecting the topography, branching out like fingers to reach the different wooded areas
I see this (logging roads, etc) all the time in post 10's videos. Maine is certainly a gorgeous place!
Oregonian here. Our forestry companies actually have full time public liaison employees that can be called to see if a particular logging road is open to recreation and what type. In addition to off roading, horseback riding, mountain biking and gravel biking are really popular. All they ask in return is if you report anything that is against their policies. It gives the public a huge amount of recreational area that often connects into national forest and BLM land and gives the forestry company monitoring of remote areas.
Definitely liked this City Tour better! Thank you for taking our feedback and working on it.
I just want to take a few mins to live in your city at the end of the episode. Keep bringing the intimacy (perfect word) and the zen, and you will totally get it dialed in.
Build was fantastic too!
On the soccer field, I would put a tall fence along the goal end that is at the roadway. This does two things, stops balls from landing on cars driving by, and stops kids from dashing in to the road to retrieve a ball when they ultimately miss the goal - don't ask how I know this...
Yes. That area doesn't feel finished. I'm not sure I like the surface covering the area past the soccer field either but I'm OK with it. Add some fencing for sure. Maybe a hotdog vendor and bathrooms. It's a little too plain and I would be shocked if there wasn't at least a little parking.
The fence isn't necessary. I live right next to a soccer field that has the goal line but up against a high frequency residential (though low density) road and has no fence. It has never been a problem. The fence would be expensive to maintain, and would limit access to the park grounds.
I really want to see you do a map like Arizona, with a bunch of mesas, canyons, washes, etc. So you can play with those dramatic landscaping edges, and not have to smooth everything!
Just not a lot of maps available, and the ones that are are very flat or just rolling hills, and mountains that nobody would build on. Need some good map makers from CS1 to come over and share maps, or they could improve the map making tools. I've made some maps I really liked in CS1 but it takes quite a few hours just doing detailing.
Transport fever 2 has these!
God bless the line tool - I remember Imperatur making vineyards before it came out and I think it sent him slightly mad.
Also, very fitting that the soccer pitch is on Sheffield Street, given that Sheffield FC is the world's oldest football club.
This may be the only CZcams channel where I've watched every single video lol
Perhaps Lewis Hills for the new town? A reference to the first development project that the Lewis family ever took on and a bit of suited to the hilly forests that they're developing now instead of tropical river fronts.
I'd say irl the fence around that football field would be a requirement, espacially at least behind the goal by the main-ish road, even fence taller than usual, or a net on top of standard fence, to stop balls from flying onto that road.
Please keep the surfaces! I live in Finland and the darker underbrush feels so much more realistic and correct when it comes to forests not only in general but also for forestry industry.
The soccer field being sunken is pretty accurate too, especially for local neighborhoods - I see them around, they help divert rainwater from the streets.
I loved that city tour! I can’t wait to see it in one of your more urban builds. In fact, I’d love some footage of you just driving through downtown bend to see what it looks like from a resident’s perspective. All the work you do with detailing really stands out in the closer up views and showing a street level view gives me such a nice relaxing intimate feeling. Seriously, I think I could fall asleep to just a montage of street level footage from all of MC!
I LOVE seeing clear cut blasts, that's why I wish you'd used them more, but I grew up in Illinois, and yeah, it's more realistic for a Wisconsin-ish state to push dirt around. It's flat where we are/were, and blasting is for bedrock and mountains. Hell, that's why we have basements in the north, but we don't get them in Texas. It's all dirt up there. That's why driving through Tennessee highways is so nuts, the amount of sheer rock walls is insane!
The new Township should be called something that pays tribute to the Lewis Lumber Co that takes up the majority of the area. Possibly something like Lewisville or Lewisburgh.
I love the story of this series so far! To go with the story I'd say a good name for the new district could be "Charles' Hollow" or "Charleswood" to give Chuckles some level of "ownership" of the area he helped create. Maybe later it'll be called "Chuckles' Folly"?
I like the new city tour! Makes it feel more personal. As a side note, I love the “helicopter view” (track and zoom) on the train!
Looks great, but you'll have to rework the railcrossing on the curved road in the custom cargo terminal. The train ist driving through the railway barrier!
Hey Phil! The tour was great! I also appreciate that we have a new big landmark that can serve as a point of reference to orient us around the city - similar to the way we knew where we were in Verde Beach in relation to the zoo, campus, amusement park, etc. Excellent build and love love LOVE how you brought the forestry district to life!
It's honestly so gorgeous, Phil. It was just as satisfying watching you with the lumber farms! The different colors of the trees make such a beautiful pattern.
Wildland Firefighter here, gotta love your work and props to proper, environmentally conscious and sustainable forestry management practices for commercial agriculture and recreation! 🌲🔥🌵
P.s. I just got and ate my first two Factor meals this week and OMG they’re SO GOOOOD!!!!
The tour was lovely! Lots of ground level views that complement all the building in the rest of the episode.
How about Woodsbend since the river wraps around much of the new forest district. Also, could you maybe do a foot path across the new mini park. It'd be a a more direct path across instead of a long walk around the bend and it kinda looks odd seeing the soccer field pend in by streets on three sides and then just open on the last.
I like the idea of Forrest Hill. Nice and simple, similar idea
Oooohhh i dig that, and lower the soccer field as well, adding seats too, cool idea
Maybe Lewis Bend
Gorgeous build. One small and unreasonable ask of the fame devs would be if some parks, e.g., soccer pitches, could be terrain conforming. Being from a hilly rural area, I’m used to parks conforming to the land. My childhood soccer games were played on pitches on a literal hillside - the teams would switch sides regularly in every match so everyone got a turn at the downhill slope advantage 🙂 would be a fun little thing to have for realism’s sake.
Comments/Questions/Concerns:
The line tool and forest age thing looks REALLY nice. Makes the whole industrial area look very neat while maintaining a bit of a natural look. The Cargo Rail thing is actually kinda genius, though. Someday you'll get railroads to work as intended first try!
34:33- bump in the rail line?
-Fire Industry- You already know about this, so this is a gentle reminder before Myrtle takes her Park back. Remember you'll need both ground and air support for all those trees and industry buildings.
Phil, are you ok? You took away all the lighting from the soccer field and the park. What happened to Safety Phil?
Anyways, I think it would be natural that Lewis Lumber had a nod in the new zone's name. Maybe one of the family's first names? Also, I would think they might name a road after Chuckles as thanks for bringing this opportunity to them.
Last concern- You did address a comment about the obstruction of James' view in the comments for the last video, but didn't fix it in this one. Too much on your mind?
As always, a pleasure to watch you design and build according to a story. Thanks, CPP!
I enjoy all of your city tours, love the before and after shots. I think today's tour did a job showcasing the change without being as jarring as some previous tours.
Another commenter mentioned this: The soccer field being at a lover grade could be a feature.
In my area we have turned a lot of overflow (from retention/flood ponds) into soccer/football fields.
Since they are for "hundred year" floods/flash storms they rarely have water so they are the perfect place for practice/neighborhood fields.
Great video as always!
Hey Phil, great video! If I lived in Magnolia County, though, I would be protesting that paper mill like none other. I live a few hours from a town with one, and I hate going there because the whole town wreaks! It could be fun to work some protests into the lore.
2:18 Dang, thats a Midwestern meal. Looks amazing.
Big big fan of the new city tour. Not just because of the "more intimate" approach, but also the lack of cuts. It was smoother and let us appreciate the space you created much more. That said, I do like how the older city tours contrast the nature of the change. So maybe there's a way to bring in both? The zoomed in views without jarring cuts, but still some overlays and cross fades to show old into new?
Also, strong agree on keeping the surface for the tree farm.
For the city tours, you should have more scenes of the camera following cars, buses, and even pedestrians around to see how they intimately connect to your builds each episode.
Man, these builds look better and better with every episode. The mods are getting to a point where the game is super malleable, allowing you to make things look absolutely outstanding. Love to see this level of customization finally exist in the game
I would love to see a dedicated series of how you can do different styles of districts and zones for road layouts, zoning, and anything else. Such as industrial, city center, rural, planned developments, downtown, etc. something that covers “do things like this” without story or filler. Very tutorial-like.
man when you brought up that CS1 lumber industry you really see how much better CS2 looks.
Tour was excellent love the brake up with the car and train trips. The build as whole is beautiful! One of my favorites so far.
There’s a huge opportunity to build a mixed use path network in the forested area behind some of the new homes. If you look at maps of Columbia, MD you see a lot of these pseudo-wilderness paths providing pedestrian connectivity. Specifically speaking, check out the River Hill Neighborhood in Clarksville, MD
Honestly, maybe add some of the forestry surface texture to the surrounding forest, rather than remove it entirely, to really integrate the industry into its surroundings visually.
And for a name suggestion, Woods Hill, just because it sounds similar to Woods Hole and I find that amusing
I dont know what i look forward to most with Phils videos, the building or the fantastic imaginary backstory created!
I love the inclusion of a sports facility in the Myrtle Park neighborhood, one suggestion is adding fencing/netting behind the goals to prevent balls, and by extension kids chasing them, from going into the street!
Idk what it is about your channel, but it’s always my go-to when I’m feeling physically rough. First time i found you was with OG Verde Beach when I was recovering from COVID. Now I’m recovering from a pretty bad injury and I’m thrilled to have so much to catch up on! Thank you for your videos!
Hi Phil, with the soccer field there is definitely a few things you'd want to change. Either make it lower level as a flood basin (commonly seen in Nova Scotia) or you'll want to add high fencing behind the nets so there's less chance of a ball heading into traffic. If this was just a community field I'd keep the lights off but since the asset looks so polish with the lines I think the lights would be great for youth and rec leagues to use as well
Love the new tour style. Getting in close to see the details at the individual sim level is always fun.
Hey Phil! A name suggestion for the new neighborhood can be Riverbend Station, as the district is located adjacent to the biggest bend in the river, plus it has a sort of big station in it.
For the new "town", how about simply "The Wald", since it's mainly just the woods and I doubt it'd have a formal name.
Beautiful city tour!!! Great job bringing the best of old and new tour styles together. I think you really hit the nail on the head with this one, and you'll continue to refine it even better as you go.
Having a city tour to music sung by the Chipmunks would have been so very fitting after an episode about a forestry industry. 🐿️
I love seeing how far he has come from Bluffside Crossing I remember watching those for a while and now look at how far he has come
@CityPlannerPlays. Paths. If you dont make a path from the park to the road along the hill, the neighborhood kids sure will. The same goes for the gorgeous forested hills. What makes this neighborhood standout is its integration into the forrest and it is a shame that no paths crisscross the forrest, nothing formal. Maybe you could use the forestry surface, to mark some trails.
It looks like you took that comment in the previous video (the one asking for more context as to where in the city you are when you switch spots) to heart! I love seeing positive interactions and the acceptance of good criticism like you’ve shown here!
Dear Mayor Chuckles, I notice that the plans for the riverbend road call for grading to create a valley at the point. I think it would be awesome if the grading leveled the river side, so drivers could get a nice view across the water. Thank you for your time.
Love the change with the city tour. When I first started watching your videos, when you got to the city tour section I was expecting more street-level views, like you'd experience if you were touring a city in person.
Amazing build. Love the look of the forest industry as is. The surface texture adds realism.
My dad's been working at the local paper mill for over 30 years, so I'm stoked to see a mill in Magnolia County! 🏭
You could call the area Verdant Town since it’s pretty verdant lol I love this series
Thank you Phil for another awesome episode! This city tour is great! No. It's lovely! I can find myself truly living in that place. 🌳And all the credit goes to Chuckles of course for his effort bringing in the VB vibe! and fire!
Very nice!
Maybe you can add an ecoduct over the river near the sharp bend for the animals to cross the river. And make the Forest more dense across the river.
We love this forestry field, it looks so great! I do like the surface as is, it makes it look well-tread by the extractors. Commented last video, so commenting until it's seen, but the boardwalk has no jetty!
I enjoyed the lingering shot of the outhouse in this "more intimate" city tour.
Really nice tour, like the more in person aspect!
It would be really cool if there could be a way to see an overhead map after each build. For example, starting from the first empty tile and working up to see the progression. Pictures we can open would be super helpful. Do you post these anywhere? My curious mind wants to Google Maps Magnolia County 😂
This would help me orient my own builds and get inspired. I always find it tough to estimate scale, so the wide overhead shots you've been using lately have been incredibly helpful. Thanks for the awesome videos and for teaching me so much about urban planning! 12/10
MUCH easier way of moving the integrated stops: place where you want it and then, using the developer info debug bit that allows selecting of sub objects, you select the stop and use the _Transform_ so simply slide it away from the track edge. Easy peasy! I did that (without the transform) a few months back. You just never get cargo, unless it's on route from an actual cargo station to another/outside.
This lumber industry looks just amazing. Could we get a fast forward of the tree cycle? Would need to be recorded out of normal simulation I guess, but could show a bit about the possibilities in CS2.
Very much appreciated that you educate yourself outside the videos to include specific principles and strategies, and teach us in turn, how some of these things work - beyond your already existing knowledge and experience in city planning.
Awsome build yet again!
First thing i thought about the football(soccer) field is that there needs to be atleast some kind of fence towards the main road to avoid some stray balls on the street
Love the improvements for the trees. Here are a few names:: (1: Ravenwood - 2: Lewistown - 3: Sherwood - 4: Emberwood). For my builds as (Drakervon) in past cities I used Rvonwood. I was thinking Lewiston (town) because that was a TON of Trees. Sherwood is for the Trees = Money for the Fantasy of it al. Lastly Emberwood or (Mertlewood) to appease the Goddess of Forest and Fire. And please don't forget city services Fire Protection and Police within the New Tree Farms area. Great work as always. Love the videos. Keep up the wonderful work / play.
Great build, Phil. Loved the new city tour style! So smooth and fluid and intimate. Really allowed me to unwind and appreciate all your hard work.
That was a good tour! Enjoyed the fade out/in
Love how this all turned out, looks great!
Definitely like the custom railyard! I think you should add some rail sections that simulate shunting/switching operations that would generally be present possibly add a building and spur rail section to house the switching locomotive. Not to mention there's probably a need for a little railway employee parking there too.
43.4109543, -80.3762213 some coordinates of a railyard that serves an industrial area for an example
Loved the city tour! You did awesome!
Love the new city tour style! The old one was satisfying as well, but this one definitely adds that level of intimacy you were going for, for sure o7
Looks great! There’s tree farms in Uruguay that “respect the topography” and follow contour lines. Makes for some pretty cool, fingerprint-like forests!
I genuinely love seeing new episodes in this series! They're always exciting to see!
When the funny music comes on i just know i'm about to get a barrel of laughs. 😂
Hey Phil, love the series.
There should be a fence around the soccer park. Kids would run after there ball into traffic.
I loved the tour, Im a soccer addict so I was also wondering if you would show if the sims actually go and play but oh well…it was still a very nice video. Very zen while still engaging. A good watch.
Thanks for inviting me to hang out in your city.
Lewis on the Wold, or Myrtuswald perhaps. In old English, Wald was the Saxon word for forest, and it often was changed to 'Wald' instead. The Lewis prefix is for the company of course, and Mytrus is a genus of plants, but also the origin of the name Myrtle.
Hi Phil! As I understand, forestry trees are planted following the topography of the ground, not necessarily following straight lines.
Love this city tour it’s nice and calm and you can get a feel for what the build feels like on street level ❤
First, let me say, I love this channel. I’m fascinated by this game and how you play it. I’ve also found your insights into actual civic planning helpful at times in my work with emergency management. I would like to comment on you’re bring the forest as close to the houses as possible. Recognizing your history with wildfire and ever present concern with Myrtle, why not adopt more of a FireSmart program approach and landscape with buffer zones between fuel sources and structure? It would be more challenging to find appropriate landscaping but would introduce people to the program which has is a huge resource for folks living within that urban wildlife interface. Just a thought sir, again, I love this channel. Keep it up!
This series is the thing that brings me the second most joy in my life. Right after hanging out with my boyfriend. I make him watch and he enjoys when things get on fire.
Hey Phil, an interesting fact. Forests like this are sometimes planted to follow contour lines. Look up "fingerprint forest" to learn more. I think doing it that way would be respecting the topography no? ;)
Phil, I need the next episode immediately! 😭 Really enjoyed this one. (keep the forestry texture)
Incredible build man. However, I feel like the lumber yard for the trains seems a bit too empty. I’d assume there would be some lighting and yard offices for employees. Just a thought. Keep it up.
For the new name, my suggestion is Little Amazon! Because here in Brazil, we have a very unsustainable way of harvesting trees and on MC you did it the right way, so it would be a good homage and a awareness message
Woke up fridaymorning and you been there and made this fantastic work. This made my day and even this weekend . Just so fantastic and my head starts planing my amateur build just knowing its possible to do even if I have to practis for many years just to come some steps choser what you build in this 38 minute short video.
Thanks for this inspiring build this is just so great. Thanks and hope your weekend Will be nice.
Loved the music in this one. Didn’t expect to jam out so hard during the city tour
Where I live, the forestry lands are grants. So an example would be Wentworth grant. All it is is an unincorporated forest. Like Kings grant after chuckles who.worked to bring the Lewis forestry industry to the county.
I would probably fence in the soccer field - I know that that wouldn't be a street that carries a ton of traffic, but I still think that there would be the danger of balls and players ending up in the middle of the road.
Easily one of my favorite builds that you have ever done! city tour was fantastic!
I really like "The Devil is in the Details" - it might be your best work yet! (also really like "Moving it with Q") The city tour was great! I love it when you get down into first-person view...it's such a stark difference in how the city looks vs. the usual top-down.
Lebanon is a great place name for a lumber industry considering that "the cedars of Lebanon" have been famous since antiquity. I think that "Millwood" would be an obvious (punny) name for the new area, but maybe too boring? The lumber area could use more "access" roads both for added realism and...well...you know. Try running them between two differently sized sections that are far from existing roads. In Maine, the access roads will have tiny saplings on one side and mature pines on the other.
I love this! Thanks for the great ideas!
Thank you for all the videos! love your content man
Love the new tour, always wanted more than just before and after.
The fact these videos make me want to go to school just for city planning so I can make better cities is quite interesting.
love how you were nerding out in this video my guy...can feel the renewed fire and passion in your energy
I'd suggest creating 2-3 pedestrian connections in the Myrtle Park expansion, between the horseshoe and the other wiggly road - it would improve soccer field access 😊