HOT Water on DEMAND at the OFF GRID Cabin? How To Install a Tankless Hot Water Heater
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- HOT Water in an OFF GRID Cabin? Is it possible? Of course it is. Danny adds a Ecotemp tankless hot water heater to the cabin. This tankless hot water heater is powered by a 100 lb propane gas bottle. Hot water on demand.
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Hot water, second to wood heat is my favorite luxury of living off grid. Its amazing what you find is really important when you living without most everything for 6 months. Now we have a regular toilet, running hot water, a bath tub, washing machine, a regular gas stove and propane fridge. And two weeks ago we purchased a wood cook stove I can't wait to get that home. We have learned so much after 7 years.
I’m gonna go with flush toilet first, then shower, kitchen sink and heat. Air conditioning is also quite nice….and a good dog.
Wanda I dang near lost my eye when that red pex pipe came up. Lol.
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Danny, you and Wanda are an inspiration to my husband and me. We are actually older than the two of you and yet we are going to leave the city next Spring and move to a country property and begin to live the real life. These videos will be our treasured tutorials in the near future.
Celtic Fiddle that is exciting, I’m happy for you.
I am on my own, lost my husband last year and going off grid plus I am old!!
Darlene Smith good! Plant more that you need.
Good For You Both... So Happy to hear you're going to do your real life... That gives me hope... I'm doing the same thing, yet really reinventing myself...
Hope all is going well...
God Bless Always.
I get it Celtics fiddle, I felt that too! Two very inspirational people. And I am only 43 but will be putting this into practice at a later date.
Danny you lit up when you basically said that you loved being self sufficient and finding ways to become more self sufficient, I do too it’s crazy exciting to me and what a great feeling of security, it’s like nothing else in the world!
Hey Danny, I have had two of these units. I live off grid in east Texas. I installed my first one in 2017. It worked great until we had a freeze. It busted my entire system including the piping of the heat exchanger inside the unit. The second one I installed has lasted almost to years now and has started to have a pinhole leak at a soldered point of the exchanger tubing. This appears to be a weak point of these units. The exchanger looks just like a common heater core from a car and the tubing that it is soldered to is somewhat thin. I may sound like I am being negative but I have enjoyed the convenience they have provided. They are economical and for the cost they have served me well. I am also running on solar so the battery powered pergo igniter is a great feature. You may want to build some kind of structure outside around your unit or shut it off and drain the water heater if you are expecting a freeze. I bult a metal siding Utility building behind my house that my unit is in. (I added a T in the feed line between the shutoff and the unit so I can drain it during a freeze.) During summer I leave mine on minimum gas flow but during the winter I have to adjust it to be comfortable. One other note on it's propane use. I had a twenty pound bottle on it originally and I was able to take between 30 to 60 showers on one bottle depending of shower length, 10 to 20 min showers. (These were taken during the summer) Love your place!! God blessings on you and Miss Wanda!!!
Great info Im in North Texas and originally from a colder climate. we still get a couple days here below freezing. I appreciate the insight.
I used to live in East Texas... I miss it...
I lived about 40 miles South of Longview.... Good Cat Fishin'.
Anyway... What Unit did you use? What do you recommend?
Thank you for your help...
Do you know if they still have that Restaurant up at Caddo Lake??
Im in east texas (Linden) and off grid totally. If we are close, id like to see your set up and mimic it if possible
Ive been using that exact model for 5 years in my tiny home trailer. They do work great and are extremely hot. I have replaced mine 2 times due to freezing up while I was driving. The pipe in these are very thin. Be sure to shut your water off and unscrew the brass drain valve in freezing temperatures. I would also disconnect the water supply in those instances. I made my unit connections with braided ss supply lines so its easy to unfasten. You will like it! Just be aware of how fast and easy they can freeze and split.
A treat for you both. There's also a propane kitchen range, that uses a 9V batter for ignition, instead of a pilot light (a snippet of info for those interest in that)...
I have one...but..in the winter you have to drain the water out of the unit..the pipes inside will freeze and bust...I learned from experience. My husband and I had to purchase another unit. I love them..but if it's freezing temps..drain the unit of any water. And..they will rust outside..put a little awning over it..we have a shower house over ours...love you guys..God bless..😊
When you turn the water flow on the unit up, you’re telling the unit not to ignite until there is a greater amount of water coming through. It needs to have the flow turned down as low as it goes in order to ignite with less water flowing through the pipe. I have had a tankless water heater for about 15 years that uses water flow to spin a little water wheel inside which creates a spark and ignites the flame. No batteries or electricity required. But you want the flame to ignite with the smallest amount of water flowing so you turn the flow down. That also helps to raise the temperature of the water.
Danny, you always do things very nice on Deep South Homestead. You don’t install or slap things together, always well thought out and planned. Ive seen some you-tubers do some real sloppy homestead projects. Enjoy being part of DSH with Danny & Wanda. Take care you two.
We have this model off grid up here in northern mn.... we've had it 3 years and works wonderful. It's inside our home because, well... northern mn lol... 5 ppl showering and dishes and such and it's never failed us nor has it been a problem w gases...
Edit: yup ours goes out too if we go much past min ... I think it's because then the pressure through the hot side which is needed for the flame to stay on just isn't high enough... we just keep it on min.
Thanks for that info.
I would worry about freezing the pipes. I,m on the Carolina coast any was told my pipes would never freeze but one cold January night they did. I put heat tapes on the and never had another problem. They worked well when I lived up north and they work well down here.
I bought one a few months ago and I’m just getting around to Installing it. Mine is indoor and comes with a 3” exhaust pipe to vent outside. I’m planning to make a sheet metal spacer to mount it to with an inch gap to the drywall. The gap will be filled with Rock wool insulation which I’ll also pack into the thimble where it goes through the exterior wall.
Thanks for the idea to install an inline water filter on the supply side. I have two small LP tanks, so I won’t need the gauge.
I hope this 10 liter Camplux unit puts out sufficient flow for a shower. It’s supposed to, but when it gets cold outside, who knows. They always seem to overstate the capacity, no matter which brand. Thanks for the video.
We just installed one as well. I still only have hot water at the shower, but, that's ok with me. Being off grid with an outdoor shower, this is a huge blessing.
I like cold 🚿🛀🥶❄💧🧼🌡🧖♀️🧖♂️
@@UnlimitedProccess11342, living in south Florida, 90% of the time, I don't mind it either, but, in the later Fall and Winter, I do not have the tolerance for a cold shower.
There are so many ways these days to skin a cat. Find the way that works for you. Awesome video.
Same issue with ours. It’s battery operated as well. Has to both be in minimum. Issue we’re having is that you have to have the hot water valve all the way on for it to work. If you want it warm and move the nozzle to warm setting the hot water heater gets hotter because there’s less water traveling through the hot water heater. So to take showers you have to regulate the heat on the tank. Kinda sucks. Anyone out there that has suggestions that would be rad. Enjoyed the videos Danny!
Yup, those things are a great invention for sure!! We had en electric one at home, for quick showers and when we were not using the old woodfired waterheater
What a handy device to serve your needs. So glad you found something that works just when you need it.
Your tankless hot water heater is a blessing, we all want convenience without paying for it out the wallet, Congrats Danny and Wanda!
Wanda! Y'all remind me so much of how Jimmy and I worked together! Excellent tutorial. Pertinent subject matter as well.
It looks good we can't put it outside it would freeze up here even with the little insulation that you put on the lines I do have a friend that has one and he loves it but it's inside his cabin I plan on adding on to my cabin and when I do I will have a utility room setup and I can put one in there right now I don't have the enough space for it thank you for sharing God bless
You did a great job and thank you for the kind words about living off grid. I subscribed to show support for your channel. Thank you.
Good video Danny. I will be using one on my son's tiny house he is putting on our property. Thanks for all the great info.
Good lord another video of just what i need..my eco temp has been sitting in a box for 2yrs. Love your set up..just what i envision and you beat me to it...hahaha
Very inspiring video..
Its so important that we remember (we don't need to rely on corporate america to meet our needs)
We don't need to work and fork over our hard earned money to corporations who don't give a crap about there customers or employees only fiscal profits
Our life is worthless unless we share it with one another. Keep them videos coming
What a great idea this is something that I had been thinking about this I would like to hear updates and how it works for you. God bless Shalom
The higher the water pressure the higher the flow of water and less time for water to be heated before passing through heater, this may be reason it shuts off with high pressure.
Very cool, question, so i thought when ever the heater senses water pressure going into it , it would ignite.. but it looks like thats not the case? So Its only when the faucet is turned on? So to be clear... water pressure can be hooked up to it all the time... and when it senses water flow it kicks on?
Yup those heaters are pressure activated and when the pressure drops from turning on the tap it kicks on, but when the pump kicks on to restore the pressure, the new pressure will kick off the heater. The regulator is the best way to do it, but will kill your pressure if you have a larger system.
Morning Y'all , so glad for you guys , I love your attention to detail, it helps me to want to be a better carpenter ! Thanks Danny !
I've had Propane on demand water in my last two homes. I love them.
Danny and Wanda, you are so resourceful and such an inspiration. Glad you have this outlook and ways to "work around" things. Excelent video!
When we built I decided to go with a Rheem propane tankless hot water heater. I was concerned that my young grandkids would touch the hot vent outside so I went with a sealed unit that vents out warm air. We love the water heater. It uses very little propane. My water coming in is from a drilled artesian well. It is very cold. About a month ago there was a tornado a few miles from us. It took out the power lines for the better part of a day. My whole house generator kicked on, so I told my wife I was going to take a shower. No hot water. The problem was that the electricians that originally set up the transfer panel didn't realized that the fan on the Rheem closed system has to work. Yesterday, I had the electrican out and he connected the fan up.
They make double wall and even triple wall pipe that's made so you wont get burned if you touch it for that application
Great info. So smart!
Most of those tankless water heaters require 2.5 pounds of water pressure to ignite the burners, at least on mine it does. Water pressure drops, burners go out, safety mechanism that was put in place. On my system, I have to turn the water on before the burner will light. Does your water heater have a summer/winter setting? Good job setting that system up y'all!!! Dan
No summer and winter setting. Mine goes out when I up the water flow.
Sounds like a pressure issue, have ya tried running the heater at 5 pounds of water pressure or the equivalent of spigot water pressure? Dan
@@HomeInTheSticks I'll give it a try. My well is set at 50 psi.
One thing is to secure the propane bottle ie fit another post preferably a metal one with a chain secured to the bottle just in case bottle is knocked over by high winds or persons or bears etc otherwise the gas pipe will pull or tear off the regulator or pull off the heater damaging the water heater..and causing a gas spill..
Good work! Blessings!
I have an indoor unit on natural gas. Worked fine for 12 months then started flaming out due to what seemed to be a water flow issue. Two items (shower and washer) running at the same time caused it to turm off. Turns out it was a low gas pressure/volume problem. Not saying it's your problem though.
Hey Danny, I forgot to mention the valve on the water is not pressure it is flow rate. It helps you to fine tune the temperature. (To a small degree) The faster the water flows the less time in the exchanger heating the water.
That's a great system! I will definitely be getting something similar. Unfortunately, i just got an email saying that the lot of land that I was working on purchasing was just pulled off the market! Now I need to call my realtor to see what happened...
nice cheers we love ours we have pv solar powered hot water to it runs off of a C40 PWM For back up
Excellent set up, mounting, additional gauge and video overall
Got the same one for my daughter's mini house!
Loved your video very informative. The sermon was excellent as well, lol. I'm a fan, I subscribed, keep the good content coming.
How is this holding up 3 years later? Thinking of installing one at my off grid cabin.
Get some rechargeable battery adapters to replace depending on buying D batteries, If you have eneloop batteries you can run your system on 6 AA eneloop batteries using a battery adapters that uses 3 AA batteries per D cell adapter, I put up a battery adapter video just incase you want to see the adapter im talking about.
I'm swapping out my traditional 40 gallon water tank for a tankless and so excited for it. I haven't got it connected yet bc I am not plumbing/gas savvy and don't want to blow myself up....
I bought 2 of those propane gauges from Amazon they both started leaking within 6 months! Keep an eye on it!
Thats awesome!! Super stoked for y'all!! Pretty cool it runs on batteries 😎.....hope you get your water pressure thing figured out, I'm sure you will😊
Y’all are so resourceful. Good tutorial video. 👍❤️🙏
Is there a water pump either side? How do you cool the water-is there a separate cold water tap?
My husband is from Ireland and they have had these for decades. It's all they have! Right at the shower too. We have been wanting one but we're worried about the sediment build up. Does your filter screen for hard water issues? So glad to watch this! Thanks for sharing!
No it's just to catch any debri in the line before it gets too the heater.
We just added a similar unit for cabin but we are upstate NY and need to drain all the water out now due to freezing.
What kind of well pump do you have if you're off the grid?
That’s a awesome set up for a little cabin, don’t they produce instant hot water and non stop hot water
Yes it works really fast.
add bridge valves under each sink, saves water waiting for hot water , kotchen, bathroom, washer... a real water saver
How high up do you need to put your IBC tote to get sufficient pressure and flow to the unit? Also, do you need to be mindful of how high you mount the heater in relation to the faucet, shower or other outlets? Or does the 12v pump handle it regardless?
Lovely video. Thanks for sharing, sir.👍
Hi Danny , fine job on the install of your water heater, not hot water heater. Thanks
I’m curious , I’m watching this 2 years later ….how has the hot water heater done outside in winter? How cold does it get where you are?
Looks great but it won't work in the mountains of nm where it was -5 in my place new years day
I have been using that same unit in my camp up in northern Michigan. When you notice a temp fluctuation flush it out and all is good. If yours treats you as well as mine has treated us your going to really like it. And a 100 lb tank is going to last you along time.
Oh and white vinegar is all I use to flush it with....works good for me.
How long does the 100lb tank last with this water heater? How is your water usage/family size?
Just purchased this unit for our cabin. What brand of in line filter
did you add to your heater?
That's pretty cool, that would be a good back up hot water system, you just never know.
Great video Danny and Wanda! I'm just waiting for you to put a wood cook stove in the cabin for winter and to can with too 🙂
Cabin is to small for that kind of heat.
Has this been a good water heater for bath or shower too?
The tankless water heater I have works off of flow more than the pressure. Don't remember what the numbers are, but I will find the paperwork and send you the numbers for it.
That’s great news
Danny and Wanda I am new to watching you guys, love what ya'll are doing. Went back a year and watched the build of the cabin. Is that where ya'll live permanently?
No it's on the back side of our property. We have a bigger house.
Danny you might want to pipe in a drain on it so during cold weather you can drain the copper coils in the heater itself so they don't freeze and bust.
It comes with a built-in drain.
Great set up Danny 💯
what are you using for a well pump? You say its all battery operated, can you explain how your'e well pump is setup.
If you have no electricity then how do you have pressured water ? if you are running a generator then you can have it for both
Good that you put it away from the house. There have been a few cases where the whole house propane generators have leaked into the house over time.
Danny, do you have a link to buy the inline sediment trap. Every one I’ve found seems to reduce pressure, clog up too quickly or leaks. What has your experience been overall with your tankless water heater so far? Thanks!
do you find that it turns off when you mix in too much cold water when the flow through the heater is low? I'm trying to find one that can handle lower flows. If I turn the water too cold I often have to turn off the water completely and back on to start it back up.
Great videos you 2. Question. You dont have electricity. how do you get water from your well and pressure for your water?
That's a nice set up. We're building off grid house right now and something like this would be a nice point of use solution. Can it handle a shower too? Already enjoy your videos. They are very inspirational.
Yes it can.
This looks like a good idea however I would have to do something indoors as it would freeze where I met.
Now get a cheap solar battery charger .. no need to run to the store for fresh batteries ... EBL LCD Universal Battery Charger - I want to install one as a backup at my house...
What is the make of your unit ?
Thank you!👍
Living without running water is hard work, and having to heat water for cleaning makes any job twice as long.
That water heater is going to be great at your cabin.
Great idea! Thanks.
Nice tankless water heater
pressure of the tank got jack to do with burner,,,reason,you draft on you gas pipe to short for full burn
I was looking at those on line for my place also. I think I need an indoor one as we're suppose to get a few months of freezing weather. I did read that cold air in the vent can freeze the unit and cause it to break, so I'm still undecided.
good idea
Does this unit have it's own water pump or do you need that separate? If so, what do you use for a water pump?
Is there an off grid natural gas system that uses tanks instead of hard lines similar to propane?
Is your water pressure gravity fed
Came across video and I guess I’m not understanding if you don’t have electric but have a well. How are you getting the water to pump to the propane heater ? If your using a pump what are you powering it with. We have off grid lake camp we want to do an outdoor shower.
Good luck with the gage, I bought 2of them for tanks and they both leaked and emptied my tanks.
Where did you buy the heater
can you recommend an electric one that can replace a tank style
I've installed several Rheem units. But they are expensive.
Can you comment on the status of the propane water heater? Are you still satisified with it? I'm shopping for one now. Thanks.
Yes, we are still using ours. We cover it in the winter to keep it from freezing. Only thing we have to watch.
That’s so nice!
How do these hold up in extreme winter Temps, anyone know?
I love this !!! I will be building an off grid cabin next year. This is a wonderful idea for hot water. Do you have any ideas on how to run a small air conditioner off grid? 🧐
110 units will run off of a generator. That's what I do after a hurricane.
Thank you so much. 🤗
Where is the water coming from?
That is neat!!!