WIFE is HAPPY/HUSBAND is NOT - DIY Well Pump Installation

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  • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving

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    • @protectormc
      @protectormc Před 3 lety +1

      Yoo martin you definitely need to put insulation on the water pipe and pump so it won’t freeze 🥶
      Don’t make that mistake trust me put some on it

    • @1969barnabas
      @1969barnabas Před 3 lety +1

      Martin, how are you getting water into the house if you didn't already have a well? Are you sharing water from your neighbor's house?

    • @takeastandorbeenslavedby-left
      @takeastandorbeenslavedby-left Před 3 lety

      You should really be running a 220v pump at that depth. 110 is a no go. Buy a new pump

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +3

      The pump is 200’ under ground.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +1

      Maybe later. This one is working fine for now.

  • @cglenncowdell2408
    @cglenncowdell2408 Před 3 lety +140

    The two eyelets on top of your pump, that you taped over is to attach a safety cable too. So that in a few years you can still pull your pump up when all the sediment, rust and sand settle on top of your pump. The plastic pipe and wires will not take much force to brake off. I would use stainless cable with stainless cable clamps. Just a heads up for problems down the road.

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 Před 3 lety +7

      you are right, i have seen a few pumps that end up in the bottom of the well .

    • @yatessmyrna
      @yatessmyrna Před 3 lety +9

      Use stainless cable and hardware.

    • @valvemonky4734
      @valvemonky4734 Před 3 lety +6

      15:00 if you notice before at he put the pump in he tied a nylon yellow rope too one of the eyelets

    • @markwilliams4525
      @markwilliams4525 Před 3 lety +2

      I wonder what his pumping water level is.
      Hopefully the 1/2 hp pump will do the trick

    • @markwilliams4525
      @markwilliams4525 Před 3 lety +9

      @@valvemonky4734 the yellow rope is useless! Needs to be stainless

  • @captjim007
    @captjim007 Před 3 lety +23

    As a country boy I can totally relate to your well experiences. I had to completely redo my well pump, tank, plumbing and electrical when I bought this place because everything was broken and I couldn't afford a well company to do it. I researched and learned how to do it all myself. Now every time I use water I feel like a pioneer. One more thing, always test your pump in a tub before you put it down the well. It can save a lot of time.

    • @videosByRuss
      @videosByRuss Před měsícem

      Lol. How you get your tub full without the pump working :) :) ????

    • @captjim007
      @captjim007 Před měsícem

      @@videosByRuss just put water in a tub

    • @videosByRuss
      @videosByRuss Před měsícem

      @@captjim007 I mean you have no water at the house 😂

  • @jamesbibler6492
    @jamesbibler6492 Před 3 lety +21

    I can't believe how optimistic you remained! Love the enthusiasm.

    • @mikeslotta3283
      @mikeslotta3283 Před 3 lety +1

      I would have been throwing stuff, and I'm supposed to be a Christian!🤣

    • @RSole9999
      @RSole9999 Před 3 lety

      Optimistic on camera. Who knows what tears and cursing went on while not recording. Ellen Degeneres was also very sweet in the public eye.

  • @markmatt9174
    @markmatt9174 Před 3 lety +17

    Mozt well pumps in my area are all 220/240 volt, you were plugging it into a 15 amp 120 volt outlet, which will pull 2X the amperage. With a pump at that depth i would be running a 3 wire pump with a VFD which will stop the high torq rotational forces.

  • @jdemicoli
    @jdemicoli Před 3 lety +11

    Great video ! One way to save on generator oversizing would be that of installing a soft starter. It will reduce your starting Amps by up to 70%. The problem you were encountering is likely due to the fact that during a motor start (just like the deep-well pump) the current drawn is about 7-8 times the rated current and the generator might not handle that due to the starting kVA capability.

  • @TomWylie
    @TomWylie Před 3 lety +6

    As others have said, I would check into running the electrical through a normal submersible pump control box instead of just plugging it straight into the generator. That will have the capacitor in it to help the pump start. Check with your pump supplier for what would work with your 2-wire pump, but that's at least the case on the three-wire pumps I've worked with.

  • @number9er1
    @number9er1 Před 3 lety +2

    Crisp, clean visuals - charming innocence and persistence - and a pretty cute dog !
    your editing is pretty good too.

  • @lynnebeattie4829
    @lynnebeattie4829 Před 2 lety

    Ya'll are amazing! Love seeing your beautiful family working together to build family home/life!!

  • @mikej1389
    @mikej1389 Před 3 lety +3

    Lots of hard work, love seeing the whole family working on their dream. Each adventure a learning opertunity for everyone (including us) best thing with doing it your self you understand and know how it went together and and repair it in the future. Keep smiling.

  • @glenlevenhagen8967
    @glenlevenhagen8967 Před 3 lety +8

    Love the sound effects when tightening! True mountain man!
    😄

  • @JSNMSR
    @JSNMSR Před 3 lety +2

    I'm so glad you got running water on your homestead! Been watching since the beginning and I felt just as frustrated as you were with the hand dug attempts. Love you guys, Love the content, Keep up the good work!

  • @zekefoonman2921
    @zekefoonman2921 Před 3 lety +1

    That made me tired just watching you guys. But, the great satisfaction you get having done a great job...priceless.

  • @oldsalty8562
    @oldsalty8562 Před 3 lety +7

    When I drilled my well I ran it 24/7 for two days before it cleared up.

  • @jonthepain11
    @jonthepain11 Před 3 lety +2

    My first thought was "needs a hard start capacitor" because my background is in HVAC. It did not occur to me that more watts from the generator would do it, but it should have. My brain just doesn't work like it used to. Like most issues, persistence solved it. Well done.

  • @mowingtrimmingedging214

    I admire all of your positive attitudes!

  • @skipproctor8979
    @skipproctor8979 Před 3 lety +1

    I run my home well pump on an indoor 40 amp circuit breaker. So the bigger generator amperage is the answer. Glad you got it set up.

  • @TheRutherford1963
    @TheRutherford1963 Před 3 lety +6

    Congratulations, cant do without that water. Such a big leap on the homestead.

  • @dereckconnors9108
    @dereckconnors9108 Před 3 lety +5

    Fire burns up, that’s why we can have fires on lakes when we go ice fishing lol

  • @mattpastell3728
    @mattpastell3728 Před 3 lety +1

    OMG, trying to uncoil the pipe on a cold day is so much fun!

  • @JhaeMo777
    @JhaeMo777 Před 3 lety

    I’ve been MIA for a long time now. Looks like a lot has been going on. Glad you got a working well.

  • @pdaddyblake
    @pdaddyblake Před 3 lety +10

    Only one thing you forget on pumps that deep we use cable guards to keep the wire from rubbing on the case I seen many times the pump still good but had wire rub but most of the time it's already 15 20 year old so we just replace it all😁👍👍

    • @larryray4811
      @larryray4811 Před 3 lety

      I don't belive the depth part. a 1/2 to 3/4 hp pump will never get water to top at 500ft.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork Před 3 lety

      @@larryray4811 The way I understood this, the water head is only 90 feet, never mind how deep the well may be. But I do agree that 1/2 HP sounds too small to be able to deliver any kind of useful flow.

    • @larryray4811
      @larryray4811 Před 3 lety

      @@engineerinnewyork I thought i saw when drilling that the went to 600 and then back up to 500. They showed a chart, but i could be mistaken.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork Před 3 lety

      @@larryray4811 At minute 14:56, give or take, he says that the static water level is 94 feet. The well and the pump are deeper, but all that counts is the water head, since the pump won’t make any effort to push the water up until it reaches the surface at -94 feet.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork Před 3 lety

      @@larryray4811 Also, at 18:10, he says that pipe is 196 feet. It follows that pump is at approx. -196 ft., very far from the well bottom, but irrelevant because it’s only the water head that counts.

  • @williambates6811
    @williambates6811 Před 3 lety +4

    The well driller/pump installers have always installed check valve at the pump and half way up the pipe for the different wells I have drilled or had to replace pumps in. I would suggest more torque arrestors on the pipe every 50' is what the well driller recommended. Keep pumping the water until it clears up and make sure you treat since the well you pulled the pipe several times and introduced biological contaminates to the well. The place that sold you the pump should be able to tell you what to use.

  • @reno5948
    @reno5948 Před 3 lety +1

    Martin, I have to give it you, you have chops to attempt a job like that in the middle of winter! Great job!

  • @gsftom
    @gsftom Před 3 lety +2

    Bet it was a big relief when the pump finally started. Jules does a great job being cute 😀

  • @sarahmannluker7528
    @sarahmannluker7528 Před 3 lety +4

    Your determination is admirable.
    Marty, when you said that about Julie's job being cute was hard, I cringed. Good save though. Julie your expression was priceless 😂

  • @mattheusstrydom3249
    @mattheusstrydom3249 Před 3 lety +17

    I tie a sky rope on my pump to pull the pump out instead of pulling on the pump pipe and electrical wire.

  • @carmenrivera9187
    @carmenrivera9187 Před 3 lety

    I don't know why but have watched all your videos and I'm rotting for you I admire your calmness and your wife is great support good luck in your new home

  • @christhompson6216
    @christhompson6216 Před 3 lety +1

    Have to be honest when i came across a random video of yours i thought id scroll past it like alot i do....watched one and im hooked !!!! keep up the hard work from the UK

  • @thehungryhunter3454
    @thehungryhunter3454 Před 3 lety +15

    use your torch and heat the inside of the pipe not the outside.

  • @TheNorsewoman
    @TheNorsewoman Před 3 lety +3

    Really enjoyed watching this one, you guys sure kept your cool.

  • @Bradannas1
    @Bradannas1 Před 3 lety

    My well sit for 6 years because I switched to city water. I pulled pump installed a constant pressure system for irrigation and the water looked just like that. I pumped it for 6 hours straight and it’s crystal clear now. My well isn’t nearly as deep as yours it’s 215ft and was drilled in 1964 replenish rate is 75gpm it fed 6 chicken houses , 4 residential homes and a barn at one time. Very blessed to have it I just hope it keeps producing and the casing doesn’t rust. Keep pumping!

  • @tomrandall4871
    @tomrandall4871 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice details! I went through a drilled well back in 1997. I was lucky to have a Native American use a divining rod, actually two of them to locate a drilling site. 105 ft. I decided to use a 230 V. A. C. 5.9 amp 1/2 hp gould pump. Most sinewave inverters won't start a 2 wire pump. I used 10 gauge wire. But a 4kw genrac generator started it. Locked rotor amps was 35 amps. But my home was 450 ft. Away. Finally I bought a Trace SW4024 sinewave inverter and a 2kw 120v to 240v transformer and wired the pressure switch to a 60 amp relay that controlled the transformer so you would not be wasting losses running the transformer with no load. Now on the inverter output surge the amp draw of the well pump was 60 amp for a split second because the inverter was 120 volt then going through the transformer then to the pump. If I had a 120 volt pump it would not have worked with that distance with only 10 gauge wire. Maybe 2 gauge...

  • @keithosterkamp6207
    @keithosterkamp6207 Před 3 lety +6

    Most likely it needed extra amps for longer than the inverters surge amp cycle time. The small gen probably was enough run amps but not starting amps. Now that the system is primed it might keep up.

  • @LivingTheDreamHomestead.
    @LivingTheDreamHomestead. Před 3 lety +4

    🙋‍♂️ lol
    When you plugged it into that 3500watt, I had a feeling it wouldn’t pump.
    We had the same issue.
    We have a 9500watt just for our well.
    Be careful at startup to always have the valve open, otherwise you can “deadhead” the pump.
    That’s what we were told.
    So glad you got it pumping, now to clean some water 😛
    .....wait that doesn’t sound right 😜

  • @wvwildlifecam9159
    @wvwildlifecam9159 Před 3 lety

    I'm glad you finally put you amp meter just on the red wire.

  • @ManWithaPlan1658
    @ManWithaPlan1658 Před 3 lety +1

    Great job sharing the pain with us! That’s what really makes it informative 👍

  • @ahmedkhalid1071
    @ahmedkhalid1071 Před 3 lety +9

    Congratulations,
    The color of the first water is not too brown and that's a good indicator! Just let the pump work for 2 hours and you will get a very clean water. 👌

  • @barkyharrington
    @barkyharrington Před 3 lety +3

    I died on the inside 3 times while watching this. Pretty sure I'll never be the same again.

  • @charlesdavis5772
    @charlesdavis5772 Před 3 lety

    I think it will work! You guys have put so much labor into this. It has got to work!

  • @mrmcclung
    @mrmcclung Před 3 lety +1

    Great Fun !!
    Something to keep in mind for spring, run your wire in some plastic ( ie; PVC, Pecs whichever is cheaper).. it'll protect wire and later you can pull/add remote start wires for the generator (in the pumphouse) from the house... ( a nice back-up).
    Stay Safe

  • @consaka1
    @consaka1 Před 3 lety +3

    I got so tired of putting my pump in and out of the well I just started putting them in 55 gallon barrel first.

  • @budjones3296
    @budjones3296 Před 3 lety +10

    You need a bigger generator! Also, the well needs to run much longer to eliminate brown water.

  • @ianiskandar4165
    @ianiskandar4165 Před 3 lety

    Kangen sama keluarga ini.. hope you always in great health.. God bless Mr Martin and Family

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello from South Florida. The take away here is you got the pump running. Your generator is trying to start the pump but couldn't sustain the long draw amps and shutdown. Generators usually have a "peak rating" . That Predator has 3500 Watts Peak...that is 29 Amps (run @ 25 A). You were drawing 32-36A. The other generator will peak @ 6250W = 52A and run @ 5000W=41A. Watts = Volts x Amps

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety

      +Lou Cinci Thanks for your input. I appreciate you taking the time to give it. Hope you have a really great day and keepsm:)ing!

  • @andrewvalenta7320
    @andrewvalenta7320 Před 3 lety +11

    Should have had them take a scoop out for you with their track hie before they left. For your pitless

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux Před 3 lety +3

    I read that as "Wife is happy that husband isn't" I was like "typical"...
    Glad to see i was wrong and forgot to how to read..... Good luck!!

  • @NickOvchinnikov
    @NickOvchinnikov Před 3 lety

    Nice! I'm glad you got some advice and figured it out. I also noticed you guys switched the amp meter to one leg on your cable to get an accurate reading

  • @TomWylie
    @TomWylie Před 3 lety

    Congrats on the well!!! That is so awesome, and 10 GPM is certainly nothing to complain about. Glad your static water level is not all that low either. Definitely doable for a backup hand pump like the Apocalypse Well Pump.
    I would guess that once you've run several hundred gallons worth of water from the well, it very likely should clean up and not be so dirty. That was definitely the case for ours that we drilled in spirit lake, as well as our neighbor's. They had to run thousands of gallons through it to get clear water, but it finally did clear up and was awesome once it did.

  • @sandrahmurphy
    @sandrahmurphy Před 3 lety +3

    Good job xx

  • @waynezoll3190
    @waynezoll3190 Před 3 lety +13

    Keep running the pump the water will clear up it took 2 days for mine.

  • @randyfredricksen5963
    @randyfredricksen5963 Před 3 lety +1

    What I learn from watching all your channel and others will be invaluable when I start building next year..figuring out the best way to do something is a great resource you guys provide. Thanks for sharing it!

  • @PaulSmith-gf6nr
    @PaulSmith-gf6nr Před 3 lety +1

    Never watched your channel before, but yall are really nice people. Wish everybody well from Texas.

  • @basherrasheed5844
    @basherrasheed5844 Před 3 lety +3

    My grandfather dug a well in our house using his hands and we have been using it for many years, although he did not dig much at first, it had a lot of mud, and then the water quality became excellent ... for the information Our house well in Syria so everything differs

  • @jackoalltrades5708
    @jackoalltrades5708 Před 3 lety +31

    a motor takes more watts to start than it takes to run, like almost 10 times

    • @MarkSDCA
      @MarkSDCA Před 3 lety +1

      Called lock rotor current. Be prepared.

    • @davidd5523
      @davidd5523 Před 3 lety

      Hello starting current. although that's a long surge for a pump that small. Edit: watched further... because it wasn't starting.

    • @RSole9999
      @RSole9999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@MarkSDCA LRC is when the rotor is unable to turn. Starting current is a little different.

    • @akyhne
      @akyhne Před 3 lety

      A hard working 3 phase engine, takes 4-6 times its rated power to start. More than that and it will barely be able to start.
      10 times is unheard off.

    • @davidd5523
      @davidd5523 Před 3 lety

      Agreed and the lower multiple, obviously it depends on the machine

  • @TaitGuy
    @TaitGuy Před 3 lety

    GREAT TEAM WORK!!! Thanks for sharing...

  • @captainkepcon8194
    @captainkepcon8194 Před 3 lety

    Your perseverance, determination, and lack of throwing cursing fits absolutely amazes me. I have watched your vids from time to time and this time I subscribed (and rang the bell for the first time ever. I'm not realty sure what that does-I'm old). Your sense of frustration is hopefully more than compensated for when you overcome a problem such as you did here. I am a self employed renovation contractor and have to work through similar stonewalls so I feel your pain and your satisfaction. This is an amazing adventure you all are on. I only wish I had the resources and youth to try something like this. Best of luck to you all. PS never underestimate the reinvigorating power of the smile and encouragement of a beautiful,sweet, woman. That's something you can't pick up at the hardware store. Having a good dog along doesn't hurt either. I'll bet sometimes you'd like to trade places with the dog and fetch sticks while the dog digs the frozen ground.

  • @lenrsmith
    @lenrsmith Před 3 lety +5

    Nice work! It’s always nice when a hard job ends in success. I was interested to see the pitless adapter install. I did not use it for my well, but I am in a warmer climate. If you ever have to pull that pump (now that it has the added weight of 196’ of water in the stand pipe) look into making a trolley/roller system. Basically, take an old wheel rim and rig it up to rotate on a stand next to the wellhead. You can then pull the pump out with a tractor or truck by letting the pipe roll over the wheel. It keeps the pipe from kinking as you pull it up and over the head of the casing. It also prevents scraping the wire on the casing. It will save your back, too.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +1

      That is a great idea. I’ll do it next time we pull the pump.

    • @lenrsmith
      @lenrsmith Před 3 lety +2

      Just make sure you always have someone watching so that you don’t get things tangled up and break something. Also, make sure you have the cables, rope, and pipe all tied up when you start tugging. The cable may want to slide down and make a big ball...ask me how I now.

    • @isfanromeo
      @isfanromeo Před 3 lety

      In fact, you only pull the weight of 94 ft pipe and the water in it, plus the weight of the pump. The rest of it is canceled by the external pressure of water.

    • @lenrsmith
      @lenrsmith Před 3 lety +1

      True enough, but I have not found it to help in practice. Some of that may be drag on the sides if the pipe. My deepest well was 275ft with the head at 35ft. It was terribly hard to pull the pump.

    • @isfanromeo
      @isfanromeo Před 3 lety +1

      @@lenrsmith How about 416 ft with 301 ft above the surface of water at the weel i just installed it?
      You don't want to be arround when it needs to be pulled out!

  • @josephgould3832
    @josephgould3832 Před 3 lety +6

    Best suggestion to avoid the rusty water issues is : Do NOT Allow them to install the Steel/Iron casing. use PVC instead. 1.) It eliminates the dirty rust water. 2.) It reduces the risk of pump and pipe loss due to lightening strikes burning holes in the metal pipes and damaging the pump. Cleaner water and far less issues down the road. BTW: the PVC Pitiless installation would have been far easier as well. Lessons I did not have to learn the hard way. (We have and old 750 foot Steel/iron well on the farm; dirty water and pipe/pump burn out every couple of years. At least use PVC down pipes, (these are not like the tubing used in this video but rather PVC Pipes manufactured especially for use in wells. They are threaded and install the same as regular 20 foot length steel well down pipes). PVC casings cannot be driven down like steel casings can be so they must be drilled in by a qualified well driller and then properly grouted.

    • @aindreascinead7370
      @aindreascinead7370 Před 2 lety

      Hi! My name is Andrew and I work for McCullough and Sons Well Drilling.
      So the issue of steel vs PVC casing and dirty rust water are not related. That dirty rust water is caused by iron in the water, not the steel the casing. This iron in the water comes from deep down in bedrock or wherever your water is located underground. It’s a mineral that is present in the water whether it’s PVC or steel casing. If there is an orange goopy sloppy gross stuff on the outside of that pipe that you pulled out of the well (that’s called drop pipe), you have what is called “iron bacteria”. It’s a bacteria that gets in the well and feeds on that iron mineral in the water. If that gets inside your pipes it can stop everything up :)
      There are also situations where we can’t use PVC drop pipe. PVC drop pipe is used for shallow wells that don’t have a submersible motor above 1/2HP. A 3/4HP pump is pushing the capacity and strength of PVC pipe. The other problem with putting PVC drop pipe down a deep well with a pump larger than a 1/2HP is that when that 3/4HP pump fires up, it generates a massive amount of torque which whips the bendy flexible PVC pipe around inside the well. That can cause your wire to get split or severed. Deep settings generally use steel for this reason.
      That’s quite a deep well you have :) 750 feet deep is no joke.

    • @josephgould3832
      @josephgould3832 Před 2 lety

      @@aindreascinead7370 What happens with regularity on our 750 deep well is that a lightning strike anywhere near, say within 1200 feet will run through top soil to the well casing while burning holes in the drop pipes and cooking anything in the upper 25 feet of water within the casing to a blackened sludge. The common practice of disinfecting the well does nothing to change this issue. (I'm pretty darn certain the iron is leaching out of the rusty casing walls regardless of what you say.) 750 feet of rusty casings is no joke. In Northern Minnesota known for iron water our PVC well casing only runs 150 feet deep and the drop pipe is also all threaded PVC 100 feet deep. We haven had iron water, bacteria, or lighting, or pump issues with this well, not since the day it was put online 30 years ago. I may NOT be a well driller; I do know what works far better.

    • @ElRipper100
      @ElRipper100 Před rokem

      I decide to run stell casing vs ovc, in case I ever wanted to go deeper or any work in the hole it would be protected. There are supposed to be 2 more zones of water below my current 104 to 140. One at 250 and one at 300. If at some time inthe future, my family or kids need to go to a deeper zone, a drilll string can right down the casing, but not on PVC in would tear it up and a guy would lose his well.

  • @thedduck
    @thedduck Před 3 lety +1

    This is hands down the weirdest well pump install that I have ever seen in my life. But hey it works in the end and that's the only thing that matters.. 😄👏

  • @shawnharvey7706
    @shawnharvey7706 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello from Arizona 100% off grid Homestead and ranch thanks for the great content

  • @kellybell9235
    @kellybell9235 Před 3 lety +6

    When you use the clamp on amp meter you should only be around either the hot leg or the neutral but not both and not the ground either

  • @MakersMovementDIY
    @MakersMovementDIY Před 3 lety +5

    Bummer that the water is so muddy, looking forward to seeing how you tackle that obstacle.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 Před 3 lety

      Me too! 😂

    • @MakersMovementDIY
      @MakersMovementDIY Před 3 lety

      @@juliejohnson9531 Oh no, I thought that you already had a plan. now I'm really nervous.

    • @bestman7776
      @bestman7776 Před 3 lety

      @@juliejohnson9531 when they put in my pump, they ran it for 24 hours to clear it up

    • @bustedford
      @bustedford Před 3 lety

      Julie Johnson it took weeks for our water to clear up running it all day long everyday but we did have the nicest grass that year, we hooked it to 3 sprinklers to go at the same time. They ran directly from the pump as we didnt hook it to a pressure tank til it cleared up🙂

  • @jaimef2674
    @jaimef2674 Před 3 lety

    That was a happy thing !...you can have water now ! Enjoy ! Jaime from Houston, Texas

  • @michaelpaton8818
    @michaelpaton8818 Před 3 lety

    I’m glad you figured it out. I was buying a generator for my compressor and had to check the watts and make sure it was big enough. Amps x voltage =watts. I’m not an electrician but I know that equation.

  • @basherrasheed5844
    @basherrasheed5844 Před 3 lety +5

    That's cool, at least there's water

  • @rhett7337
    @rhett7337 Před 3 lety +14

    Keep pumping. It'll clear up.

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 Před 3 lety +1

      dump a couple jugs of bleach down the well also.could be iron hope not

    • @BenCos2018
      @BenCos2018 Před 3 lety

      @@andrewslagle1974 putting bleach down a well isn't a good idea tbh

  • @mindi.m
    @mindi.m Před 3 lety

    Great news for the homestead! Congrats! It was touch and go there for a while. I'm glad you got it figured out. Oh, and congrats on your new generator! 😁

  • @abe677
    @abe677 Před 3 lety

    Good video. Many years ago a neighbor of mine thought it would be a good idea to sink our own shallow wells for irrigation. Much easier job that yours but it was still a difficult 2 weekends to sink 4 wells (for 4 homes). Your video brought back some good memories.

  • @mattpastell3728
    @mattpastell3728 Před 3 lety +8

    The problem is you don’t get good at something until after you’ve already done it!

  • @kb5hxt
    @kb5hxt Před 3 lety +4

    As a retired Well service worker, I can empathize with you. Pulling a new pump because it does not work is not any fun. I praise you for working in the freezing snow/ice. I can't believe that the well driller did not leave you a "pitless" adapter already installed. I have placed one pump that ran on solar, had a charging system and a battery, ran on 12 volts d.c. The second pump will work, I watched you install the first and you did everything correctly. Good luck with the pump.

    • @littlemechanicshop
      @littlemechanicshop Před 3 lety +2

      I agree with your solar pump. I do think he did a good job putting in the pump. I would have used 1 or 2 more torque arrestors, and 3 flat pump wire and some super 88. And I love the green pipe tape it’s the best. And I would have put some Corine tablets down the well. But that’s just me. I hope it all works out for them.

  • @nelrondeau7572
    @nelrondeau7572 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video for the diy'ers . You show the frustration but determination to get it done. One step closer to household running water. Filter, filter, filter next.

  • @juliejohnson9531
    @juliejohnson9531 Před 3 lety

    So happy to get water out of that hole! Now just need to get it clean! 😃

  • @thtadthtshldntbe
    @thtadthtshldntbe Před 3 lety +12

    until you get the wellhouse with the purifying system set up, you can purify the water with a still (the thing you make moonshine and other alcoholic beverages with)

    • @michaelrunk5930
      @michaelrunk5930 Před 3 lety +1

      Or they can go right to home depot and just connect water purifier direct to there kitchen faucet.
      The water should be fine for shower and what not.

    • @thtadthtshldntbe
      @thtadthtshldntbe Před 3 lety

      @@michaelrunk5930 I don't disagree but the still could be repurposed for other means later.

    • @robertbizzarro8586
      @robertbizzarro8586 Před 2 lety +1

      I'd just drink the water when it comes out of the faucet. We drink rain water and well water all the time. No cancer in my family.... No factory chemical water for us. You need the microscopic rock for good health. Purifying water is for townies...

  • @marshasmith6320
    @marshasmith6320 Před 3 lety +12

    ✋🏻 that’s what I was saying. Like you could hear me lol. The generator ain’t big enough!! Lol

  • @Spinonemaster
    @Spinonemaster Před 3 lety

    Always nice when the well guys dig you a trench for the pitless adapter install while they have a machine there, or install it before they lower the last section down 4 ft ... but after 4 long days they may have forgotten ... and yea, even 110v well pump need a large generator ... that pump has to work hard to get that column of water up 500 ft ... they pull a lot of juice, especially on start up ... too little juice and they overheat, causing thermal shut down ... glad you solved the issue ... all part of the well learning curve .... most 230 v systems require a control box to modulate and protect motor and circuits

  • @tomstickney5500
    @tomstickney5500 Před 3 lety

    you guys work good to gather as a family.

  • @VaderWhoop
    @VaderWhoop Před 3 lety +18

    Why would you not test run the pump in a barrel of water before going to all the effort of fitting it down the well pipe?

    • @rorypike1541
      @rorypike1541 Před 3 lety +2

      Excitement? Enthusiasm? I've done similar with appliance electrical repair jobs. Hahaha.

  • @kevinbrewer2141
    @kevinbrewer2141 Před 3 lety +3

    I would recommend putting a lot more spacer's for the pipe in the casing. I have mine every thirty feet now and taped the wire to it every four feet. With the pump turning on and off the pipe will shake or twist it wore the wires off my dad's and this happened on my pump. I does take years for this to happen it's better put the guards on now than to have to buy copper wire again.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +1

      Great idea

    • @kevinbrewer2141
      @kevinbrewer2141 Před 3 lety

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving just wanted to let you know so you don't have to put the pump wondering why you don't have water. Copper wire i only going to keep going up.

  • @selador11
    @selador11 Před 3 lety

    Nice crimp pliers too! Best upgrade ever, when I replaced the thin metal cheapos I had, with a set like yours!

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety

      Those things work great. I’m finding you typically have to spend some money to get quality tools.

  • @flyingwyoming5184
    @flyingwyoming5184 Před 3 lety

    It will clear the more you run it. I have an off grid place in NW Wyoming and its a little cloudy when I first get there but clears up after awhile and continues to get better every year.

  • @joesnuffy1961
    @joesnuffy1961 Před 3 lety +8

    👍motors always draw higher when they start

  • @dper1112
    @dper1112 Před 3 lety +12

    I think it's gonna work!
    Update: Well, then. As a note for future troubleshooting, the time-saving step you missed is ... testing the second pump before install. Also, I'm curious what the electrical specs are on the well. We know that many high-draw appliances (e.g., table saws and refrigerators) have a massive surge at start-up. Did the pump come with that information, or was it only labeled as 1200W?

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +7

      It didn’t say the LRA or start up amps. Wish it did that would have need helpful.

    • @arnoldromppai5395
      @arnoldromppai5395 Před 3 lety

      all the 110 volt pumps use a 15 amp braker, that much more then it needs, a 1 hp 220 volt also uses a 15 amp, that 110 volt will use 8 amps at start, and run on 5

  • @greensnapper1602
    @greensnapper1602 Před 3 lety

    WATER is a Must Have so Glad you have it now...

  • @MrAcacio
    @MrAcacio Před 3 lety

    I loved seeing you and your family work together on your projects. God bless you all, great videos and I will follow you. The only thing I don't like is the cold weather but this is a gorgeous place. congrats.

  • @johnstreet819
    @johnstreet819 Před 3 lety +7

    F.Y.I. Grundfos makes soft start pumps which eliminate a bunch of problems.

    • @TedSpider2023
      @TedSpider2023 Před 3 lety +1

      Grundfos has always been my go to. They also stand up to all kinds of contamination and weird pH and remediation additives in my environmental remediation/extraction wells.

    • @istvanmeissler2238
      @istvanmeissler2238 Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for the info. Like a lot of products made today, a few brands really try to stick with top quality materials and quality assembly, and some are a collection of import parts thrown together. It is helpful to know what is a good reliable brand, especially with something like a well pump. Thank again because I will be buying a new pump this summer.

    • @WannamakerWorks
      @WannamakerWorks Před 2 lety

      Grundfos is usually stainless steel and you don't wanna use it when you have high iron

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi Před 3 lety +3

    Please God you get a break because you guys sure deserve one .

  • @Off-Grid
    @Off-Grid Před 3 lety

    Just fired up our rainwater system and have 4000 gallons to start with and more rain on the way. I feel ya, water is a big game changer!

  • @historybuff2329
    @historybuff2329 Před 2 lety

    Kudos to your courage to try things you've never done.

  • @kenwillis8487
    @kenwillis8487 Před 3 lety +7

    You have to wire it into a capacitor! It stores electricity for startup as initial load is high!

    • @richardriehle4159
      @richardriehle4159 Před 3 lety

      i figured the same.

    • @DL-tp2nr
      @DL-tp2nr Před 3 lety +1

      Not ever done

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  Před 3 lety +2

      It is wired correctly. It is a 2 wire pump. The cap is in the pump motor. 3 wire pumps have a cap in a control box. But I’ll look into it.

    • @richardriehle4159
      @richardriehle4159 Před 3 lety

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving oh, ok.

    • @kenwillis8487
      @kenwillis8487 Před 3 lety

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving ok ours is three wire and runs from breaker box to capacitor and then pump ! And every time we lost water it was in the capacitor! Cheap China electronics lol not really lol

  • @beverleyspugsandhomestead.

    That’s better 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😊

  • @sirbuleletideas1137
    @sirbuleletideas1137 Před 3 lety +2

    Working together gives everyone the opportunity to know how to install and fix water pump..

  • @Martyr217
    @Martyr217 Před 3 lety

    I like the use of diagrams. We don't really needs pumps or wells here in Scotland so I've never seen them being installed before.

  • @williamdebow3478
    @williamdebow3478 Před 3 lety +4

    If the pump is really pulling that many amps, the wire is sized too small for that length. ALWAYS test your pump in a barrel or tub of water up top before installing to make sure it works. Could have saved yourself returning a perfectly good pump and wasting a lot of time redoing everything. Very interesting but too many adds. Keep up the good work.

    • @RRaucina
      @RRaucina Před 3 lety +4

      The wire is fine, those are starting amps on the starting windings. It is normal, except with an undersized genset the pump stays in start mode and thus the high amps.

  • @jamesshanks2614
    @jamesshanks2614 Před 3 lety +4

    Not uncommon when you first start you well. Buddy of mine ran his well for four days before it cleared up.

  • @zomisland03
    @zomisland03 Před 3 lety

    Yes it will work I believe in you guys and gals!

  • @optroncordian7863
    @optroncordian7863 Před 3 lety

    I was going to tell you to check the voltage also to see if the generator gives enough power. However, you figured it out.
    Nice looking water ... (chuckling)

  • @Frostytravels
    @Frostytravels Před 3 lety +4

    Watts and amps. There is a formula for the conversion. You need to understand the ratio of wattage and amperage. Glad the larger generator worked.

    • @av1204
      @av1204 Před 3 lety

      pretty easy one... volts x amps = wattage.... watts / volts = amps

  • @MrBoo1963
    @MrBoo1963 Před 3 lety +5

    Reminds me of Korea 1967 winter. Ground so frozen that we could barely chip it.

    • @turgor58
      @turgor58 Před 3 lety

      What about the days of our siege of Stalingrad... we hardly had any drinkable water but ice.

    • @drengr2759
      @drengr2759 Před 3 lety

      Reminds me of 6 months every year. You haven't seen frozen ground since 1967?

    • @map1537
      @map1537 Před 3 lety

      We used to stack them and use them as sandbags

  • @flemmingengel4795
    @flemmingengel4795 Před 3 lety +1

    if the soil is frozen put a winter mat on the ground the day before