Williams cleaners had zinc washer that when fired would scour the inside of the barrel. The base would push up into the body of the bullet compressing the washer so that it would be larger in diameter than the bullet.
Jeff, those Williams cleaner bullets were almost universally hated by the troops due to a lack of accuracy when compared with the Menie bullet. They were packed with from one to three per packet of ten standard bullets and since the paper cartridge was colored differently, often times they were be thrown away instead of fired. As time went on, even the War dept grew to hate them due to more complex manufacturing required coupled with very minimal cleaning results.
Here's a handy little book called "A Handbook of Civil War Bullets and Cartridges" which will fit in your back pocket. Has a good run down on those 2 band .69s. Book is by J.E. & D. S. Thomas. Can't have too many books! Great videos, newly subscribed and will be watching regularly. Hope you find some artillery projectiles!
Nice 1st piece of lead .58 wow US Box Plate awesome Jeff guess you had that place pegged and you researched it well ... congrats on the little one and your right That Plate will be his one day and even more precious... enjoyed the Hunt Thanks wow those infields , Williams cleaners and all the freaking lead is cool many nice buttons also Congrats Jim
Thank's Jim!! Not much research went in to it.. Its the main camp in the town and every relic hunter knows about it. The bad thing is 90% is under pavement that was the last site that was left.
Im at work and couldn't watch the whole video but you done good again. Enjoy while you can. Thanks for sharing. I'm back another nice box plate. No rust bleeding through to the face. And an impressive number of bullets and buttons. Dude you wouldn't have any problems getting someone to help recover all those relics. Rest up and hit it a.s.a.p. Thanks again.
WOW Jeff. Nice finds...Two box plates, bullet heaven...man o man. GRATS. On the other side of the coin...I agree and will say the same thing...Fill your holes in...There now I feel I helped out.lol. I'm up to episode #50 with Seven and just seen you sub'd on my channel and ...here I am. Great job and grats. Paul.
Thanks buddy It has been a really great site I seen yesterday that it looks like they are going to move some more dirt lets hope so. Maybe after watching the video they will fill them holes back up.lol
Hi Jeff. Nice to see you have one of your best hunts ever. I've been enjoying watching you and Seven in his videos. Have fun with your new little hunter, I know youll teach him to fill in the holes. Jeez, I hate seeing those too. GL & Have fun. Rick
Great hunt Great finds, enjoyed the video, next time you go and your needing someone to go with you give me a shout and ill head that way, ill be coming from Muscle Shoals Alabama it take me a few minutes to get there, but believe me ill come. Lol, HH/GL.
That .69 2 ring bullet is generically called a Prussian bullet. That specific bullet was used in the early .69 rifled muskets and you find them out here in the western theater a lot. It's predominantly found in federal camps and has been wrongly identified as a solely confederate bullet in the past. Nice finds!
Awesome hunt Jeff! So happy for you! Those two small pistol bullets look like they were partial casts. Like the lead was poured into the mold and only partially filled the cavity. Only the tips were cast. HH!
Congrats on all your Civil War relic finds! That 2 ring .69 cal is a Confederate bullet.It also could be a Arkansas Musketoon bullet. I have also seen .69 cal Musketoon bullets that were Union bullets but these were from the Mexican War period; leftover rifles and bullets were used early in the Civil War by both Union and Confederate troops. Look and see if it has a deep cavity with a thin wall and flat bottom, if it does then it is a Musketoon bullet from the Mexican War. In any case it is a super bullet find! I agree with you about all those Lazy Azzes that do not fill their dig holes! It does not matter that it is a construction site, all holes need to be filled! Love those Box plates! I have 2 US Belt plates but have not found a box plate yet! Congrats! That is an amazing site for sure! ;-) PS: I use the 'Some Civil War Bullets 2' as my go to reference book.
Hey Jeff my name is a Shane cothran I live in Middle Tennessee about 10 miles south of Franklin TN I've been digging for 12 years I've used whites Garrett atpro and now I have a Fisher F75 I've seen you use this in some of your videos but more times than not you use other machines so I was curious why you do that do you think the other machines are better or you just not like the F75 anyways let me know your opinion thanks shane
Jeff; I have to ask...The top left bullet. First one in the top row, going from left to right. There appear to be a couple of dents in that particular bullet. Are they, could they be "Teeth Marks"? For some reason it just jumped out at me & I had to ask what you think about it.
Got to love those general services buttons.
Congratulations on receiving a new baby!
Out standing saves ,Congrats
Williams cleaners had zinc washer that when fired would scour the inside of the barrel. The base would push up into the body of the bullet compressing the washer so that it would be larger in diameter than the bullet.
Great hunt.
Nice finds
Jeff, those Williams cleaner bullets were almost universally hated by the troops due to a lack of accuracy when compared with the Menie bullet. They were packed with from one to three per packet of ten standard bullets and since the paper cartridge was colored differently, often times they were be thrown away instead of fired. As time went on, even the War dept grew to hate them due to more complex manufacturing required coupled with very minimal cleaning results.
Very nice hunt. You need to leave the old guy at home more often...
Jeff you absolutely killed it out there. Well done.
Thanks it was a good day if i say so my self hope to get back out there soon.
Great ole video too! Thanks!
Here's a handy little book called "A Handbook of Civil War Bullets and Cartridges" which will fit in your back pocket. Has a good run down on those 2 band .69s. Book is by J.E. & D. S. Thomas. Can't have too many books! Great videos, newly subscribed and will be watching regularly. Hope you find some artillery projectiles!
Thanks Tom
Great finds thank you for sharing
Thanks
Killer site Jeff! Congrats on the two box plates! You guys have been diggin some really nice relics from that lot! Thanks for sharing and HH
Congratulations Jeff on those great finds!
Real nice finds love those box plates.
Cover your holes is right!!! Go Jeff! Not fussing just plain courtesy to the land owner!
That second box plate is awesome.
Awesome hunt Jeff! That was epic!
This is like Star Wars movies LOL
Been watching from the middle and now the start.
Great finds, congrats!
Nice 1st piece of lead .58 wow US Box Plate awesome Jeff guess you had that place pegged and you researched it well ... congrats on the little one and your right That Plate will be his one day and even more precious... enjoyed the Hunt Thanks wow those infields , Williams cleaners and all the freaking lead is cool many nice buttons also Congrats Jim
Thank's Jim!! Not much research went in to it.. Its the main camp in the town and every relic hunter knows about it. The bad thing is 90% is under pavement that was the last site that was left.
Outstanding Jeff !
What a great hunting ground ! Enjoyed the vids w yourself and seven !
Hey congrats on your baby
Im at work and couldn't watch the whole video but you done good again. Enjoy while you can. Thanks for sharing.
I'm back another nice box plate. No rust bleeding through to the face. And an impressive number of bullets and buttons. Dude you wouldn't have any problems getting someone to help recover all those relics. Rest up and hit it a.s.a.p. Thanks again.
Real nice Jeff great finds....I know how that back gets to howlin with the bendin and diggin it'll wear you out
Awesome videos, just subbed
That box plate is nice Jeff!!
Crap like them holes not covered makes metal detectors look bad
Nice relic hunting Jeff and congrats on the new addition to your family.
WOW Jeff. Nice finds...Two box plates, bullet heaven...man o man. GRATS. On the other side of the coin...I agree and will say the same thing...Fill your holes in...There now I feel I helped out.lol. I'm up to episode #50 with Seven and just seen you sub'd on my channel and ...here I am. Great job and grats. Paul.
Thanks buddy It has been a really great site I seen yesterday that it looks like they are going to move some more dirt lets hope so. Maybe after watching the video they will fill them holes back up.lol
Killer hunt Jeff! Congrats on those plates!
Thanks buddy!!
Great finds Jeff! You guys found a really good site. HH & GL
Great hunting ,someones been busy at the site you've been digging .Thanks for sharing
The black, curved piece looks like a trigger?
Hi Jeff. Nice to see you have one of your best hunts ever.
I've been enjoying watching you and Seven in his videos.
Have fun with your new little hunter, I know youll teach him to fill in the holes.
Jeez, I hate seeing those too.
GL & Have fun.
Rick
It kills me to see someone not fill in their holes and I seen a lot of it out there.
Had the same two rings and shape
Great finds Jeff, congrats on your new son
Thanks buddy!!! Would love to see him get into digging one day.
Hey there from another Tennessee boy. I'm in East Tn. Nice finds.
Great hunt Great finds, enjoyed the video, next time you go and your needing someone to go with you give me a shout and ill head that way, ill be coming from Muscle Shoals Alabama it take me a few minutes to get there, but believe me ill come. Lol, HH/GL.
It would be a dream come true to do what your doing, None of that stuff near seattle !!
That .69 2 ring bullet is generically called a Prussian bullet. That specific bullet was used in the early .69 rifled muskets and you find them out here in the western theater a lot. It's predominantly found in federal camps and has been wrongly identified as a solely confederate bullet in the past. Nice finds!
That was my first one and i had no ideal what it was so far there has been four found I think.
You saved them from the dozer. Awesome stuff!
Always fill in your damn hole. If ya cant fill your hole in, don't dig it.
Awesome hunt Jeff! So happy for you! Those two small pistol bullets look like they were partial casts. Like the lead was poured into the mold and only partially filled the cavity. Only the tips were cast. HH!
That's a great hunt. You got another sub keep it up
Thanks for the sub!!
Congrats on all your Civil War relic finds! That 2 ring .69 cal is a Confederate bullet.It also could be a Arkansas Musketoon bullet. I have also seen .69 cal Musketoon bullets that were Union bullets but these were from the Mexican War period; leftover rifles and bullets were used early in the Civil War by both Union and Confederate troops. Look and see if it has a deep cavity with a thin wall and flat bottom, if it does then it is a Musketoon bullet from the Mexican War. In any case it is a super bullet find! I agree with you about all those Lazy Azzes that do not fill their dig holes! It does not matter that it is a construction site, all holes need to be filled! Love those Box plates! I have 2 US Belt plates but have not found a box plate yet! Congrats! That is an amazing site for sure! ;-) PS: I use the 'Some Civil War Bullets 2' as my go to reference book.
Wow you had a great day Jeff!
Good job buddy. You killed it!
Thanks buddy as you know its been a good site.
Great hunt Jeff,you really killed it! GL&HH
I thought that a box plate was attached to a wooden ammo box. I just googled it and feel a little foolish :-)
Great hunt and great site. Have you got any pernissions for property around that area?
That site is the only one there that's not under pavement.
I found a 58 that looked the same way from the Nashville Arsenal
It's a 69 Prussian my first one I think there were 4 come from this site.
At 6;35 when you found that bullet and dropped the pin pointer and it was going off on something, did you look to see what it was?
No I didn't!! hoping it was just ground mineralization or a nail.
Hey Jeff my name is a Shane cothran I live in Middle Tennessee about 10 miles south of Franklin TN I've been digging for 12 years I've used whites Garrett atpro and now I have a Fisher F75 I've seen you use this in some of your videos but more times than not you use other machines so I was curious why you do that do you think the other machines are better or you just not like the F75 anyways let me know your opinion thanks shane
I loved the F75 its a great detector but unfortunately I sold it to get the GPX.
good to see you out hunting again man hope we can hunt again sometime.
Thanks buddy!!
Jeff; I have to ask...The top left bullet. First one in the top row, going from left to right.
There appear to be a couple of dents in that particular bullet. Are they, could they be "Teeth Marks"?
For some reason it just jumped out at me & I had to ask what you think about it.
What is a box plate
What book is that?
Civil war projectiles ii small arms & field artillery by W.Reid Mckee & M.E. Mason, Jr its a very good book.
you wouldn't wanna take a retired police officer out for a day of diggin would you? I'm in Northern Alabama, I need a good day somewhere! lol
Hello, I am glad to see you as a new face on my canal.
Greeting Markus from Buttenwiesen
It the ones that make it bad for the rest that may want to hunt that place
im going to tenn in oct just east of nash. what do you think of that location? i have an at pro and what is a 3 ring bullet signal? thanks!
congrats on your boy! i have 3 girls and they love diggin with me!
The location is great I live about 45 min north east of Nashville. On the AT Pro the bullets are 65-75 but really depends on soil and depth.
TennesseeJeff good deal I'm actually going to Mount Juliet Area.
trigger guard
I have found 1 button if I could like you an seven I would be in heaven