We want to have fun, not listen to a generic english song, sung by different nationalities. And since the whole thing is rigged anyway, it makes sense to go all out and be really crazy.
@@SailorSaturn1994 of course it is I never meant it’s not. I just meant for that particular year of Eurovision that was the ultimate banger. No hate still love the song 🤣
I will never forgive public that they let Croatia 2023 into final over some deserving countries who were left out.I belive public has sometimes bad taste.
@@MagicBoss1512 That's not the point here. Both Conchita and the Common Linnets (the 2nd) had their underdog stories in the weeks before. Both were and still are very popular, but on this evening Conchita won the hearts of the viewers and thus the public vote. We are not talking about the commercial success afterwards, because radio suitability is only one of the factors that the jury takes into account, while the audience is often convinced mainly by the staging. Furthermore, Austria and the Netherlands are both countries that have to fight for their votes, as they are among the countries that do not receive guaranteed points from neighbors or the diaspora every year.
"Out of pocket" and still not switching up the song structure. I'm glad that switzerland won this year since they actually changed the song formula a tiny bit (feels crazy to type that when it should be the norm). Music is an art form yet the artists limit themself (in eurovision) to a small frame, scared to take even one small stroke of the brush outside the framework (because eurovision doesn't see music as an artform)
No it wasn't. Back when it started there was a real orchestra and and songs. That's how it shouldn't be. Even if the show is crazy, there needs to be a good song behind it. Like with Lordi.
I think you're committing a fair bit of erasure there, my friend. The ESC being "out of pocket" is pretty newfangled. We've been doing this since 1956, missing only one year. What the ESC is has changed a lot over time, and will keep changing.
@@TheSegertThe semi-finals have already aired, but the finals are tomorrow. You might have to google where they are being streamed based on where you live as it's BBC One for me but I'm not certain if it's the same for other countries. If you wanna watch the semi-finals then you can probably watch them on here somewhere but I'm not 100%
Austria was loved by both and Moldova was very low by both. And plus we didn't have juries in 2006 and 2007 so we don't know who would they voted for Finland and Ukraine.
There has always been juries in Eurovisionsince the start. It’s televoting that is more ”recent”, where the viewers been given part of the say. However, the jury votes and televote used to be presented together.
@@swedishmake-upgeek5650 Since 1998 until 2008 only/mostly public voted. Juries only could replace the last qualifier by public with a non-qualifier they more performed. For example; in one semi final in 2008 Macedonia was replaced by Sweden, in 2009 Serbia was replaced by Croatia. But in 2009 we already had juries in the Grand final, again.
@@swedishmake-upgeek5650 Yes. Since 1956 until 1997 only juries decided about the winner. Since 1998 until 2008 only public decided about the winner and since 2009 is 50-50, with exception that only public decided in semi finals. Since 2010 until 2022 it was completely 50-50 and since last year it's the same like it was in 2009.
Jury: "if it's powerful or can put one to rest, then 12 points it shall get." Televote: "if it involves gayness or some craze, then it shall recieve our praise"
As a Swede, Finland should have won last year. I wish I had authority to give our win to them. Instead I have to feel ashamed that this win was probably tainted and rigged. :/ Sweden does put in more effort than most countries when it comes to picking the song. But it does not mean that this win was for us to take home.
Do you think Israel rigged the public vote this year? I don't know how they got some many 12 points from the public telephone votes. It wasn't even that good of an act, like I'd have given it 5 points at a push.
It's how it works most years. The jurys are usually made out of musicians, composers, choreographers etc, professionals who understand the mechanics of what they're looking at, as there is in fact some objectivity in music. It's not so much that the jury is rigged in Sweden's favor, as it is that Sweden has just been on top of pop music for the past couple of decades, even outside of the ESC. Swedish producers and songwriters are all over popmusic internationally ever since the Max Martin-ification of it all. The reason Sweden sends generic pop songs, is because Sweden pretty much created the modern pop sound. Swedish song writers write for other countries too, so Sweden has beaten Sweden several times in this competition. In 2016 Swedes were involved in 11 out of 42 entries. There's no conspiracy. It's popular because people like it. And yes. There was a Swede on the songwriting team for the winning song this year as well.
We need ESC 2nd Chance: Acts who didn’t win but should’ve come back and perform the same song again but this time go against each other. Example: Verka Serducka vs. Käärijä vs. Russian Grannies vs. Sunstroke Project ETC…
Denmarks Vikings from a couple of years ago got robbed because they had the second or third highest public vote and the jury absolutely shat on them. I was pissed!
That's why we need to get rid of juries, or expand them and reform them (eg musicians and producers from different genres, no radio hosts, former heads of delegation, journalists or industry professionals anymore, more diversity in age and ethnicity, 30 people instead of 5)
The public likes the weird shit. It’s Europe. The only song I’ve heard that won that wasn’t batshit crazy is actually one from my own native of Denmark (actually all of Denmark’s have been more or less boring but the one I’m talking about is Emmelie De Forest “Only Teardrops” in 2013) The only reason I remember that one is because my dad will not shut up about her because he thinks she was hot- which I can’t deny
@@msjkramey Hi, I didn't say that televoters love bad songs-I loved Cha Cha Cha, Dancing Lasha Tumbai, Party For Everybody and all the other songs on this video! I'm just saying that televoters tend to vote for songs that are crazy and fun, as has been seen since televote was introduced way back in 1997. Hope this cleared everything up 😃
Tamara Todevska - Proud 🇲🇰 is one of the best ballads in Eurovision ever,she deserved to win the whole competition not only the jury votes.That voice is impeccable,touches your heart, story telling lyrics and beautiful melody,an important message to all people.Macedonia is always underrated but although 2 years they don't send a singer representative Macedonia is still there every year with the songs that the Macedonian Eurovision legend Darko Dimitrov 🇲🇰 makes for all Europe
I can hardly believe that as young people are usually poor students who don't spend money on voting something like this, they just enjoy watching it and hyping about it on social media. From what I've heard, it's the 30 to 50-year-olds who are more invested in putting money on voting (but it can vary in different countries, this is just what I've seen and heard).
People want things that are different but *also* good. There's plenty of weird but rubbish stuff that gets few votes, but usually the public choice is actually very good, just not mainstream. Whereas the jury often just vote for some boring pop that wouldn't even reach number 5 in the UK charts like Tattoo.
And that is why I prefer the public vote. We vote for the shit we don't see every day, while the juries vote for the nth pop ballad or fenale solo vocalist (or whatever country paid them off - coughAZERBAIJANcough). I'm not here for a professional contest, I'm here to party and judge my neighbor's taste in music, lol.
Yes but jury are needed sometimes televoters poop on quality songs and singers who deserve bettter what public wants to give them,like for example 2023 semi final 1 Croatia getting through over Latvia was the bigest musical insult what public could do they chose joke entry over quality i am all about quality music in eurovision if you are a joke entry be at least be good its not much asked that you are good singer and have a good song.
Imho, they prefer basic pop, while the public also appreciates rap, rock and other genres. Or good lyrics, a great message. Things that are out of the box and/or less mainstream. The public appreciates art, the jury doesn't.
@@Idk-qs4nrYeah ! As you said it ! It came second ! While with the amount of votes it earned from the public ( a record of how extreme was the difference from the second most voted by the public song)it was bound to actually win the whole competition! Why? Because the jury made sure for that by having created a HUGE point gap between Loreen and Karijja, with Sweden earning a ridiculous amount of 12 points from the juries , while guess what? Not even a single one based on how people from each country voted. This caused a whole scandal there's no way you can't remember it. And for this reason Karijja will always be the TRUE winner of ESC 2023. Hope all this can help! 😊
@@theeternalguardian4185 Loreen came second in every country. Lets not exaggerate. Loreen won deservingly. Just look to the streams of Tattoo after ESC. Meanwhile no one listens to Cha Cha Cha anymore. Get over it. Kaarija came 2nd with the juries which shows that the juries also appreciate funky and joyful entries too. Stop overreacting lmfao
@@Idk-qs4nr in vino veritas said nothing about käärijä though? how about you stop acting like a victim and realize that no one cares to antagonize loreen and sweden?? :D
Eurovision at the end of the day is about uniting for music, and representing your country with pride but also having fun and those chosen by the public are about that.
Sometimes I'm mad at jury for being too harsh at genuinely well-made entertaining songs which create a good show, sometimes I'm mad at public for not appreciating something that isn't explosive and loud
Epic Sax guy was part of the band Sunstroke project from Moldova. Snd they came 22nd. (4th last). The public didn't care about the song back then. Epic sax guy became a legend after Eurovision, when someone made a video out of his amazing solo, that spread all over internet.
The first one was good, but when I saw the jury giving her so much praise I genuinely didn’t know why. And then less than 100 votes from the audience 🫠
That’s why I hate public vote. They often vote for the least talented, crazy fucking shit ever. But I do think it’s very important for Eurovision to remain televotes(because it’s part of Eurovision). But Jury vote definitely needs to return in the semi’s
I'll never understand why anyone would like to give any say to 5 music producers who hate fun. They are the same people that make sure only 10 songs play in the radio and everything is as watered down and bland as possible. Imagine if every song in ESC was similar lowest common denominator pop sweden sends, it'd be a snoozefest from start to end. Juries need to be removed, everything's gotten worse when they added them back in.
In the end winner is what Jury wants cuz they just collectively give points to one and we all separate cuz that’s how it is known it’s organic, idk what jury is on about for the last few years but their targeted influence on one performer is ruining the fun for audience. Soon they will be able to sit alone, fund it and pick a winner in a small room.
I really like that the jury is there to actually keep it as a music competition. With only public votes the entire ESC could fall apart in a year. The public votes keep the joy while the jury maintains structure.
I don’t really think they do. They give the most points to basic pop that we all hear on the radio, it’s just plain. It’s like they don’t care about the art of music, just feels like they don’t want individualism, everything sounds the same.
@@imscaredofsleeping have you ever taken part in their reasoning? It is interesting to listen to what they take into consideration. The things said about Chanel (Spain) in 2022 were not at all what I expected.
Pretty sure Conchita also got the highest points from the jury. Also in 2017 Salvador won both the jury and televote with a ballad. Jury normally votes for songs with best vocals, no surprise there.
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"The crazier the better "
-Public
*Europeans
Do you hate fun?
@@msjkramey No, do you
@@martasaric6383 of course not
AMEN
Public : we dont care, its about the vibe
We want to have fun, not listen to a generic english song, sung by different nationalities.
And since the whole thing is rigged anyway, it makes sense to go all out and be really crazy.
Thats why people use to vote for awful presidents
@@Haexxchenyou can have fun even with generic songs stupid
@@pizza-ve1vowdym used to, politicians always will pull the wool over the people's eyes and get them to believe whatever
@@Haexxchen this is why isreal will win. Nobody will vote for them. But the eurovision organisers need the money. So they will win.
What the Eurovusion Jury loves: whatever Sweden does
Yeah, biased in the extreme
Well they're right
Yeah true, remember that this year(2024) is the 50th annaversay of Abba, and sweden is hosting
@@Jenzzo and ABBA won't be there 😅
I dont know...Maybe sweden just better then everyone else and also put Millions into the qualification rounds. I dunno :P
Okay but that saxophone solo is fire 🔥
Considering that at Eurovision there are no live instruments, it was just a strange exercise with a saxophone. :)
@@natastudyN I meant the sound of it, not necessarily whether it was live or not hahaha
@@natastudyN yeah, you can tell he's not fingering the notes if you look closely
I just know him as epic saxophone guy
@natastudyN it is played live on the country stages at least that was the case last time I was looking at the rules.
The grandmas just making bread is fantastic
What ist their Song?
@@WrestlingNele party for everybody
Бурановские бабушки 💃
The Public : show me the people, the culture, something soulful
Jury : sounds classic, normally sung in English, ballad
Edit: 1.3k likes 😘😘😘
SO true. They want western pop icons. Whereas the public loves the unique and crazy acts.
Not true, the jury normally goes for vocally stronger songs. That's why Austria also won jury vote in 2014.
@@s2Capacidade2scounter point: loreen 2023
What's better song from 2023 that lorene one? @@Morbing_Time
@@novy1198 Käärijä ofc
Listen hard rock hallelujah was a BANGER! 🤣
Was?
still is
@@SailorSaturn1994 of course it is I never meant it’s not. I just meant for that particular year of Eurovision that was the ultimate banger. No hate still love the song 🤣
And vocals of this song are actually good
I thought jury loved them
Was Lordi not before the jury?
this why i love public votes
And that's why i love jury votes
I will never forgive public that they let Croatia 2023 into final over some deserving countries who were left out.I belive public has sometimes bad taste.
Honestly sometimes I forget that eurovision is a serious event, not just for comedy purposes, and there are people who actually want to win it.
@@degvielathey even let Israel win once with a chicken immitation song😅 Croatia last year at least didn't win.
I love democracy
Verka Serduchka is an icon
She's IS the Eurovision.
😂❤
@@mihiduli4055 probably it's he
@@YEL1HW thanks, I still don't know if that's a he or a she 😂 Verka sounds like a woman's name but you never know with some languages
@mihiduli4055 ahaha yes. I can say he's Ukrainian drug queen. he's just such an image
The grandmas were amazing
2014 (when Conchita won for Austria) was one of few years both juries and public agreed with their winner.
2017 Portugal !
That actually happens a lot of times
@@turtellok4964 define "a lot of times" from your perception
Well actually the second place was much more popular in the public, then conchita😅... both good Songs though😊
@@MagicBoss1512 That's not the point here.
Both Conchita and the Common Linnets (the 2nd) had their underdog stories in the weeks before. Both were and still are very popular, but on this evening Conchita won the hearts of the viewers and thus the public vote.
We are not talking about the commercial success afterwards, because radio suitability is only one of the factors that the jury takes into account, while the audience is often convinced mainly by the staging.
Furthermore, Austria and the Netherlands are both countries that have to fight for their votes, as they are among the countries that do not receive guaranteed points from neighbors or the diaspora every year.
Eurovision isn't about music, it's about showmanship
And politics 👀🤫
@@irroalban16 Yeah suddenly isreal is number 2 at the bookmakers. i wonder why........(Corruption)
Eurovision isn't about music, it's about politics 😊
it was about music
@@fraerot It hasnt been about music for a long time kiddo.
Eurovision was always meant to be out of pocket, but the jury has long since forgotten that.
"Out of pocket" and still not switching up the song structure. I'm glad that switzerland won this year since they actually changed the song formula a tiny bit (feels crazy to type that when it should be the norm). Music is an art form yet the artists limit themself (in eurovision) to a small frame, scared to take even one small stroke of the brush outside the framework (because eurovision doesn't see music as an artform)
No it wasn't. Back when it started there was a real orchestra and and songs. That's how it shouldn't be.
Even if the show is crazy, there needs to be a good song behind it. Like with Lordi.
I think you're committing a fair bit of erasure there, my friend. The ESC being "out of pocket" is pretty newfangled. We've been doing this since 1956, missing only one year. What the ESC is has changed a lot over time, and will keep changing.
Saxophone guy never gets old 🫡
Finland should have won. I stand by my statement.
Edit: open the replies with caution.
Yes, yes, yes yes yes
Of course!!
As Loreen sings "We don't need your statements" :з
@@AlexanderSergeevRus good thing that we don't need to listen to what Loreen sings
As a Fin i fully agree
Public prefers finland❤😂
Real
Finland is something else. They are just a country full of shitposters. And im all here for it.
Those grannies were so cute and adorable, of course they will be the people's choice.
i love how finland is on there twice 😆 not to forget windows95man with no rules!
How can we remember? That hasn't aired.
@@JaharNarishma Semi finals where
@@TheSegertThe semi-finals have already aired, but the finals are tomorrow. You might have to google where they are being streamed based on where you live as it's BBC One for me but I'm not certain if it's the same for other countries. If you wanna watch the semi-finals then you can probably watch them on here somewhere but I'm not 100%
Who's the other one?
Austria was loved by both and Moldova was very low by both. And plus we didn't have juries in 2006 and 2007 so we don't know who would they voted for Finland and Ukraine.
There has always been juries in Eurovisionsince the start. It’s televoting that is more ”recent”, where the viewers been given part of the say. However, the jury votes and televote used to be presented together.
@@swedishmake-upgeek5650 Since 1998 until 2008 only/mostly public voted. Juries only could replace the last qualifier by public with a non-qualifier they more performed. For example; in one semi final in 2008 Macedonia was replaced by Sweden, in 2009 Serbia was replaced by Croatia. But in 2009 we already had juries in the Grand final, again.
@@semirsalihovic3787 and in the years before that since the 50’s it was mostly, if not all, juries.
@@swedishmake-upgeek5650 Yes. Since 1956 until 1997 only juries decided about the winner. Since 1998 until 2008 only public decided about the winner and since 2009 is 50-50, with exception that only public decided in semi finals. Since 2010 until 2022 it was completely 50-50 and since last year it's the same like it was in 2009.
@@swedishmake-upgeek5650 And not a single song from the time you said were in this video.
Rise like a Phoenix IS a good song and you can't change my mind. It's good that Austria won at 2014.
THANK YOU
It isn't
@@Igorusekk oh it is. It what is a better song. Tell me one. But don't bring fairytale in it because this would be unfair
@@Erhabene_Lobbyhoe12 Playing with fire really slaps
I found it extreeeemely boring. Had it not been for a classy bearded guy in a gown singing it, it wouldn't go far.
Honestly, Proud was an amazing song and amazing vocal performance either way.
Jury: "if it's powerful or can put one to rest, then 12 points it shall get."
Televote: "if it involves gayness or some craze, then it shall recieve our praise"
All of those are bangers, the people have spoken
As a Swede, Finland should have won last year. I wish I had authority to give our win to them. Instead I have to feel ashamed that this win was probably tainted and rigged. :/
Sweden does put in more effort than most countries when it comes to picking the song. But it does not mean that this win was for us to take home.
Don’t feel bad! Pretty much everyone in Finland is now extremely grateful we didn’t have to host this year….
Do you think Israel rigged the public vote this year? I don't know how they got some many 12 points from the public telephone votes. It wasn't even that good of an act, like I'd have given it 5 points at a push.
It's how it works most years. The jurys are usually made out of musicians, composers, choreographers etc, professionals who understand the mechanics of what they're looking at, as there is in fact some objectivity in music.
It's not so much that the jury is rigged in Sweden's favor, as it is that Sweden has just been on top of pop music for the past couple of decades, even outside of the ESC.
Swedish producers and songwriters are all over popmusic internationally ever since the Max Martin-ification of it all.
The reason Sweden sends generic pop songs, is because Sweden pretty much created the modern pop sound.
Swedish song writers write for other countries too, so Sweden has beaten Sweden several times in this competition. In 2016 Swedes were involved in 11 out of 42 entries. There's no conspiracy. It's popular because people like it.
And yes. There was a Swede on the songwriting team for the winning song this year as well.
We need ESC 2nd Chance:
Acts who didn’t win but should’ve come back and perform the same song again but this time go against each other.
Example:
Verka Serducka vs. Käärijä vs. Russian Grannies vs. Sunstroke Project ETC…
We dont
ESC all stars? Where they just up the performance quality and just redo all time fan favourite votes? I'd pay so much to go see that shit live lmao
We all know Verka will win tho 😂
I would definitely pay for the ESC
Sam Ryder also.v
Why is "Run Away" here when both juries and public gave it barely any points
Maybe at the time, but the saxophone became part of pop culture and is now loved by the public
Perhaps because it's one of the few eurovision songs that became a global hit
NOT A SINGLE WORD ABOUT LORDI!!!!! They are freakin' amazing
Public love songs that only work in eurovision and not when streaming
Denmarks Vikings from a couple of years ago got robbed because they had the second or third highest public vote and the jury absolutely shat on them. I was pissed!
I remember that one💔
Lordi❤
Finland 2024: Thats too normal😂😂
😂 I love the memeable content at ESC
CHA CHA CHA!!!!
CHA CHA CHA =]
Tattoo ❤
💚💚💚
@@boston313 this is the wrong place honey
The fact that Finland's two highest scoring entries are here proves we will never win Eurovision with the juries 😂
5th song is Finnish and it won
@@mamutus24 There were no juries when Lordi won. If there were, we probably wouldn't have won even then because Jury would've loved Dima Bilan more.
That's why we need to get rid of juries, or expand them and reform them (eg musicians and producers from different genres, no radio hosts, former heads of delegation, journalists or industry professionals anymore, more diversity in age and ethnicity, 30 people instead of 5)
100% agree, full on peoples votes only aka no jury at all or increase the size of the jury
Also the artist should not post videos with the songs, that was a rule and it makes sense
Conchita has an amazing voice she deserved to win
The public likes the weird shit. It’s Europe.
The only song I’ve heard that won that wasn’t batshit crazy is actually one from my own native of Denmark (actually all of Denmark’s have been more or less boring but the one I’m talking about is Emmelie De Forest “Only Teardrops” in 2013)
The only reason I remember that one is because my dad will not shut up about her because he thinks she was hot- which I can’t deny
What the jury votes for: politics.
What the audience votes for: novelty.
The public has better taste than the jury!! XD
Lordi was also a win pre-jury.
They got a huge percentage of the vote too.
Hard rock hallelujah is just so good though
I so happy abouts Switzerland ❤❤ He deserved to win in 2024 ❤ The code by nemo ❤
they☺️ nemo is non-binary 🫶🏻
Juries: Anthemic ballads with incredible vocals and captivating staging
Televote: CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA CHA
If something moves you, it moves you. Taste keepers love the smell of their own farts. Something isn't bad just because a lot of people like it
@@msjkramey Hi, I didn't say that televoters love bad songs-I loved Cha Cha Cha, Dancing Lasha Tumbai, Party For Everybody and all the other songs on this video! I'm just saying that televoters tend to vote for songs that are crazy and fun, as has been seen since televote was introduced way back in 1997. Hope this cleared everything up 😃
juries: _oh yes, a sandwhich grill and sad beige mom color palette😩👌_
This warms my heart so much, I feel less alone.
Jury didn't like Grande Amore but the public sure did.
Jury vote should be abolished
The public is unhinged 😂😂😂
That's why we need both in Eurovision.
Don't try to change my mind, cause you won't
We are the continent of multiple "ja ja ding dong" songs
The baking grandmas were legends I really liked them back then
The saxophone guy it's pure gold meme 😂😂😂
I’m here five minutes after you uploaded it.Try beating that 💅
And Portugal managed to get the two demographics pleased with Salvador's Amar Pelos Dois
When Epic Sax Guy came on I’ve got hit with so much nostalgia
Tamara Todevska - Proud 🇲🇰 is one of the best ballads in Eurovision ever,she deserved to win the whole competition not only the jury votes.That voice is impeccable,touches your heart, story telling lyrics and beautiful melody,an important message to all people.Macedonia is always underrated but although 2 years they don't send a singer representative Macedonia is still there every year with the songs that the Macedonian Eurovision legend Darko Dimitrov 🇲🇰 makes for all Europe
I loved 🇲🇰 2019 so much, it was so robbed by the televote!
Yeah. We were watching the vodes form home and i was so happy to see that we won and then the televote....@@joybunny20
Would it be possible to add here the Details concerning public and Jury Voting? Without, the Video doesn't make any sense.
Why I love there always being a jury to ensure good (long lasting) songs do well
Epic sax guy won me over...
Well let's not forget that Portugal (2017) holds the record of most given points from televote with a very calm song.
if it's not unhinged or hilarious, we don't want it
Tbh, rise like a phoenix is still one of my fave songs
Quality has always been underrated.
Viva Tamara! ❤❤❤❤
Yeah I think the majority of televoters are teenagers to early 20s no wonder you see the most ridiculous songs do very well.
I can hardly believe that as young people are usually poor students who don't spend money on voting something like this, they just enjoy watching it and hyping about it on social media. From what I've heard, it's the 30 to 50-year-olds who are more invested in putting money on voting (but it can vary in different countries, this is just what I've seen and heard).
People want things that are different but *also* good. There's plenty of weird but rubbish stuff that gets few votes, but usually the public choice is actually very good, just not mainstream.
Whereas the jury often just vote for some boring pop that wouldn't even reach number 5 in the UK charts like Tattoo.
The public loves energetic and cool, the jury loves easy and safe
And that is why I prefer the public vote. We vote for the shit we don't see every day, while the juries vote for the nth pop ballad or fenale solo vocalist (or whatever country paid them off - coughAZERBAIJANcough).
I'm not here for a professional contest, I'm here to party and judge my neighbor's taste in music, lol.
Fax
Yes but jury are needed sometimes televoters poop on quality songs and singers who deserve bettter what public wants to give them,like for example 2023 semi final 1 Croatia getting through over Latvia was the bigest musical insult what public could do they chose joke entry over quality i am all about quality music in eurovision if you are a joke entry be at least be good its not much asked that you are good singer and have a good song.
Nemo's song and show was also not something you see every day and it was certainly not some generic ballad.
All of them deserved❤
The last one 😂
That's why i always preferred the juries, they know how to value truly good music, not just any bizarre thing that appears out there 😎
Imho, they prefer basic pop, while the public also appreciates rap, rock and other genres. Or good lyrics, a great message. Things that are out of the box and/or less mainstream. The public appreciates art, the jury doesn't.
@@in_wino_veritaslmfao calm down. Finland came 2nd with the jury last year. Stop acting as if juries put all joke entries last😂
@@Idk-qs4nrYeah ! As you said it ! It came second ! While with the amount of votes it earned from the public ( a record of how extreme was the difference from the second most voted by the public song)it was bound to actually win the whole competition! Why? Because the jury made sure for that by having created a HUGE point gap between Loreen and Karijja, with Sweden earning a ridiculous amount of 12 points from the juries , while guess what? Not even a single one based on how people from each country voted. This caused a whole scandal there's no way you can't remember it. And for this reason Karijja will always be the TRUE winner of ESC 2023. Hope all this can help! 😊
@@theeternalguardian4185 Loreen came second in every country. Lets not exaggerate. Loreen won deservingly. Just look to the streams of Tattoo after ESC. Meanwhile no one listens to Cha Cha Cha anymore. Get over it. Kaarija came 2nd with the juries which shows that the juries also appreciate funky and joyful entries too. Stop overreacting lmfao
@@Idk-qs4nr in vino veritas said nothing about käärijä though? how about you stop acting like a victim and realize that no one cares to antagonize loreen and sweden?? :D
Epic sax guy.
North Macedonia 2019 is in my top 10 from the last 6 years!
Eurovision at the end of the day is about uniting for music, and representing your country with pride but also having fun and those chosen by the public are about that.
We're just silly, man. And theyre too serious
WE ARE GEGG
@@brisaborunda3466 indeed B)
The Moldovan saxophone was fire and it gave us one of the greatest memes ever
Tbh the saxophone tune became a classic
Sometimes I'm mad at jury for being too harsh at genuinely well-made entertaining songs which create a good show, sometimes I'm mad at public for not appreciating something that isn't explosive and loud
This is basically a competition to see how far is too far
I love juries ❤️🔥
I'm confused because this is an uneven number of the performances so idk which one the audience love vs which one jury loves 😂
it does give us some of the best meme songs
Epic Sax guy was part of the band Sunstroke project from Moldova. Snd they came 22nd. (4th last).
The public didn't care about the song back then.
Epic sax guy became a legend after Eurovision, when someone made a video out of his amazing solo, that spread all over internet.
Jury : epic song with a powerful voice and smoke in the background
Public : kinky dude preferably running around the stage chanting something
Gotta love 🇫🇮 (have to say even though I'm Finnish) 🤍💙
To be honest, you dodged a bullet by not hosting this year's shameful edition tainted with bI0od.
Okay but the Saxophone Dude and Rise like a Phoenix by Conchita are absolutely fire ❤️🔥
The fact that 2 of these won and 3 of em got second and 1 got 22nd
Norway has the best Songs! This Year its the best again for me, they are literaly the Goåt😅
I have jury taste
That song Arcade makes so much sense being the winner of one of the seasons. Of course the judges loved a boring performance.
Sunstroke project and Lordi was awesome, and I think all of us should think the same
We usually want something we can remember.
The first one was good, but when I saw the jury giving her so much praise I genuinely didn’t know why. And then less than 100 votes from the audience 🫠
Party for everybody dance 🪩
Come on dance 🎉
Public knows what a party is all about.
Public knows better
That’s why I hate public vote. They often vote for the least talented, crazy fucking shit ever. But I do think it’s very important for Eurovision to remain televotes(because it’s part of Eurovision). But Jury vote definitely needs to return in the semi’s
Completely agree. Without the jury ESC would be a clown show.
_Thomas has never seen such Bullshit before_
i disagree, eurovision is all about the fun and the madness and what’s entertaining to watch
I'll never understand why anyone would like to give any say to 5 music producers who hate fun. They are the same people that make sure only 10 songs play in the radio and everything is as watered down and bland as possible. Imagine if every song in ESC was similar lowest common denominator pop sweden sends, it'd be a snoozefest from start to end. Juries need to be removed, everything's gotten worse when they added them back in.
I definitely agree
In the end winner is what Jury wants cuz they just collectively give points to one and we all separate cuz that’s how it is known it’s organic, idk what jury is on about for the last few years but their targeted influence on one performer is ruining the fun for audience. Soon they will be able to sit alone, fund it and pick a winner in a small room.
I really like that the jury is there to actually keep it as a music competition. With only public votes the entire ESC could fall apart in a year.
The public votes keep the joy while the jury maintains structure.
I don’t really think they do. They give the most points to basic pop that we all hear on the radio, it’s just plain. It’s like they don’t care about the art of music, just feels like they don’t want individualism, everything sounds the same.
@@imscaredofsleeping have you ever taken part in their reasoning? It is interesting to listen to what they take into consideration. The things said about Chanel (Spain) in 2022 were not at all what I expected.
Hey hey saxophone man don't belong there they were epic!!!❤
But the saxophone song is fire tho
"Talent is no longer needed political narrative and gender bullshit is much more important", thats what some people would say.😂
Having fun is more important.
You sir are a party pooper.
Pretty sure Conchita also got the highest points from the jury. Also in 2017 Salvador won both the jury and televote with a ballad. Jury normally votes for songs with best vocals, no surprise there.