Cummins N14 525 First start
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2021
- This is the first start of a Cummins N14. This was the first on highway Cummins designed and built that would run One million miles before an overhaul, If properly maintained and operated. I rebuilt many of these engines and they are a favorite. Alas today it is obsolete due to emission standards. In its day it gave the cats a run for their money. Enjoy this amazing engine as it starts and runs. Please leave comments and questions below. Thanks
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Best onroad engine Cummins ever made
@Rozlelous1165 Did you try putting coolant in it? ;)
@@edwardtye4119 the 885 big cam and the k19
When it comes to big truck engines, I’m a cat guy, but the red top was a great motor
When I started working back in the 1970's a customer tried to get me to buy a truck with a 1693. He had one and it was so noisy but he had 550 thousand on it. He was hauling pipe up to the "alaskan pipe line they were going to build" He did that for about 3 years and sold his truck and retired. Looking back i wish I had. He told me they dont let detroit 2 cycles up there as they dont do well in the extreme cold. I am referring to the company he hauled pipe for. only cat, allis chalmers (yes they had a truck engine then) and cummins.
I was actually hired by cat in 76 but went to cummins in 78. The rest as they say is history.
One of the top 3 best on road diesels ever created.
Back in 2002 I bought my first truck it was a 379 Pete with the n14 Cummins 525 tweaked up to about 600 horse what a truck what an engine not too many caterpillars could pass me here kitty kitty kitty.
You actually souped up a Clessie Cummins N14 to 600 ponies wow!!!. How reliable was the engine at 600 ponies, as I am worried about bottom end integrity especially the crankshaft , main and big end bearings. Last stock factory N14,s were 525,s Clessie Cummins never thought of extracting more ponies out of the N14 block for fear of compromising reliability . How did you squeeze seventy five extra ponies and not affect the N14,s reliability?. Love to fit a souped up N14 in a 6x4 Scammell Crusader, eighteen speed overdrive semi auto gearbox (transmission) based on a 6speed Allison CL750 driving a , 44.000 lb rated Rockwell SQ SQRD single reduction double drive bogie with short ratio diffs . Sixty plus on the Motorway(Freeway) and climb the side of a house, one cool British wagon.
CATs are more for just torque and weight lugging the N14 is indeed faster than CATs
Just like the old NH 280,s they wanted to go, so driving an NH fitted wagon is similar to a good sports car. In the UK around 1975 Ford Europe introduced the Transcontinental COE , Cummins offering two N14 engine options ,sold in UK as the E290 and E350,.The E350, over three hundred thirty ponies at the wheels ,serious pony count for a late ,70,s wagon. Stirring thirteen of Mr Fullers best constant mesh gears and overdrive, with a good driver weened off Atkinson Borderers or ERF A, Series, a Transcontinental with the E350 can do eighty eighty five miles an hour , it flew!!!!.
This is my favorite engine to do inframes on I don't know why. I love the N14
Had a couple of trucks that were powered by the N14.
First was a 460 HP 18 speed 379 Pete and the second was an N14+ 525 HP Coronado.
Amazingly smooth power delivery and great fuel economy.
Wish I had bought the Pete and the trailer when I had the chance…$40,000 for both and fuel was $0.35/L at the pump back then, with $1.50-$2.00/mile. 🤦🏻♂️
Great video.
Would love to have a truck with that engine in it today.
Used to be able to order a glider with one.
Good engines ,the Red Top N14 ufff so nice!!
I love the sound of the n14
I do too. Its funny how engine types and models have their own sound. Back in the 70's I rebuilt 8v-71s before i worked at cummins. They sounded so sweet on the post OH road test.
Thanks for the great video.:) The N14 was a fine engine.:)
I hated to see that platform go away.
had one in a t600 and do weelies with 60.000 pounds woow its a beast engine
Nice and clean!
Beast great power !
Still a cummins but it's far better than the junk they have out now. Loved me an ntc tt 475 back in the day. Good build though.
The most common problem with the TT 475s was the air system that drove the mechanical variable timing rack. Once that stopped working they were hard to start in cold.
They updated it so it was oiled later in a field fix but it still was the Achilles heel on the engine. They were the pulling beasts back in their day. They were still negged by the liner to block issues that caused coolant seepage out of head gaskets. That was fixed by the N14 going forward.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE i agree and i know you know your engines with what you stated, my hats off to you. My brother had a 104 sleeper cab over freightliner with a big cam 400 come overhaul time his friend had a 444 cummins from a wreck so he offered my brother a real good price on it my brother purchased it and had him install it, he even guaranteed it for a good while. The mechanics brother had a 110 inch 362 pete with a tt ntc 475 and you're right that thing could scoot. From what i rember most if not all cummins had that problem with the liners getting pitted and leaking coolant . god bless and have a great day.
I MISS THOSE ENGINES
They were powerful and you could rebuild one with out a crane or cherry picker (engine lift). The ISX head weighs about 350 pounds while an N14 head was around 90-105. Manageable by one person.
Best engine
Excelente
best engine
THey sound soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good!
Best motor I had in 1999….and still
I have one now over 2 million miles still running strong and smooth
Love this engine my self.
Yes.. I started at cummins in 78 and the engines had to be rebuilt around 400-500 k miles. The N14 could, if maintained, go a million miles. The 500 and up HP usually needed a set of head gaskets (compression ring started to leak) around 550-750K. Then rock on. There was a guy who had two and he took great care of them. We overhauled his N14 at 1,345,801 miles. I still remember the mileage as i was just amazed. He ran Buffalo to LA. We overhauled it because at idle his oil pressure buzzer and check engine light came on. He had around 8psi hot at idle. The cam bushings were worn out and that was the cause of oil pressure loss on those engines if they had high miles.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE mine was rebuilt about 4 years ago. Seem to bee doing fine at the moment. 19psi at idle. And around 33psi cruising
When checking each cylinder spray a bottle of water on each manifold if the water dries that means all the cylinders are firing
thats my next engine n14 plus for project im working on
I have only seen one of these engines. At auction in a ragged out t2000.
It sold for peanuts cause no one new what that engine really was.
If I remember right it was a anniversary edition of some
Sort.
The red tops as they call them were 500 -525 horse and it was a selling bling thing. Do you remember the 450 Magnum series with chrome covers and crome after cooler cover and crossover ( that was an 855 BCIV last gen before the N14 hit the streets)
They came with black (origanaly called bluke on the cummins spray can) covers that had polished aluminum tops. The fleet 435 and 450 horse spec engines had black stamped steel covers. They were all interchangable unless they came off an engine that had no jakes then they would not bolt on the jake because of the oil solenoid's height. Yes they were quite an engine. Cummins quit supplying ECM;s for them last year. you would have to buy aftermarket if you can find one. They do have an ECM upgrade kit but it is only for one CPL 525 horse and pull out your coin for that kit.
Cool
Sounds mean. The signature 600 is my favorite cummins motor. Trying to find one for my freightliner
They are an amazing machine in my opinion.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE couldn't agree more. Wish they weren't so rare. I'm alive in the wrong decade. That's for sure.
I dream of having that engine in ny truck
has one for sale
Man wish I could swap my 6.7 Cummins for one of those!
If your engine bay can have one shoehorned in, and if your truck can carry 2,800 Ibs. of N14 engine, plus a matching transmission, why not?
6.7 is just a lil baby n14 lol, that would be amazing tho
There was a guy who dropped an engine similar to this in the bed of his truck and hooked it up to the axle. I think it was on a Ford Super Duty with a 7.3L Powerstroke.
Um what? Lol
@@Ratkill9000 it was a 92-96 F150 with a 300 straight 6 under the hood I remember seein it in Diesel Power Magazine about 14 years ago
N14 used to be good when dealer have USA made parts
now days only China
That’s why I went with 600hp signature ISX 1998
Mine its doing 4.0 MPG any help what can i do???
I posted a video on fuel mileage focused on the N14.
What’s trouble shooting in Cummins engine?
Trouble shooting is old school slang meaning To diagnose an engines problems and decide the correct course of repair.
What was that spray if it wasn't ether?
It is called fast solve. It is a degreaser we use that is much less volatile than ether. We order it from a local vendor.
Cummins 14.
How much
I have n14 select plus blacktop 460hp what's the difference between redtop ? And what do I need to do to get to 525hp? Cpl 2591
All you need to do is replace the injectors with part number3411767PX ( you can get 3411767RX cheaper but PX is better warranty). Then you need to have a software change.
The calibrations are still available for the 8303 ecm but if you have an 8300 or 6662 ( the last 4 of ecm part number) im pretty sure they all will take the calibration.
Ask cummins about the software upgrade before you buy injectors. Your cpl will change to 2592. You can go to full 525 hp@1850 torque. But your drive line might not be able to take the power
depending on the driveline parts ratings. If you decide to do this i would recommend a top 2 calibration. That is where you have 1650 torque in all but the top two gears then it is 1850.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE ok appreciate the information, also what's the difference in red top.vs my black.top ? Also notice oil temp run about 200 empty bobtail is that normal or what is normal?
@@MrSehka77 "Redtop" was just a visual that you had jakes and were at or above 500 horsepower.
You could order the engine with out engine brakes. Fleets had a lot of non braked engines. It saves upfront cost. All red tops have Jakes factory installed.
oil temp- 200 is great. If you pulled 80k up donners pass and had 245 oil temp at the top of the hill id say your in good shape. Most under pull oil Temp
is around 215-235 degrees Fahrenheit. If the oil gets to 247 you log a fault for oil temp. No faults - no oil temp worries. You want the oil temp up there to boil
out moisture that condenses in the engine. There is an oil thermostat in the oil cooler that controls oil temperature.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE great information appreciate your time , also one question truck has 922k owner stated that he did inframe no paperwork truck has very little to No blowby oil pressure idle 25 & running 40 is that normal ? Engine in great shape and sounds and looks great I know it's hard to say but can I check to verify if he did or didn't do the inframe?
@@MrSehka77 Take an oil sample at your next oil change and send it to a lab like als or what ever is near to you. Have someone you trust look at the results. Worn engines normally have higher copper levels. Idle oil pressure is greatly affected by oil temp, engine rpm and gauge accuracy :-). But It sounds like it is in normal ranges to me.
Looking to buy , is it for sale?
Sorry it has been sold
rare engine,not many were elec control and i hated pt fuel system
PT are awesome. super simple and never give you issues.
@@xxxmikeyjock you must be joking,split injector cups a known issue with cummins PT
@@andrewsmart2949 never had one split. I have had celect issues with cam pos sensor, bad reman injectors etc. PT the entire fuel system is a couple grand tops
@@xxxmikeyjock VT190,VT210,VT903(and v6 version) all were known for splitting inj cups,last time i got a VT903 pump rebuilt it cost over $2000 and not many in western australia do them,it was sent to a fuel inj shop in albany who could fix it and the front housing was broken in transit,cummins perth rebuilt it with new front housing but they were usuing apprentices for all bench work and it failed and cummins had to come out and do it again cos the front seal was sucking in air,PT is junk
Rare..select and select plus are a dime a dozen and cheap.
I'm going to need help putting that in my F-350
When you get it in I want a ride 🙂
А для него нормальное давление 15 PSI на холостых оборотах?
Да, при рабочей температуре 15 фунтов на квадратный дюйм нормально
Are you going too Cell this engine
it is sold
Cumins powerr🦾🔥
Ok I am an old cummins guy. you got me LOL
Is it for sale ?!
sorry it is sold
I wonder would that engine fit in my 2000 Freightliner FL70 box truck?
That would be a running machine. Unfortunately I doubt it would fit.
Ok
Hello u have one for sale
This was started for the customer who bought it. No we have none left this was the last one.
how could i get one
@@angelmartinez-jk5vy excellent engine 👌🏾
Do you want to sell it?
Sorry it has been sold
@@ENGINESHOPJOE have more n14s for same
Sale
How much?
This actually got sold to one of our company drivers who left to work for his family. People call about this engine all the time.
@@ENGINESHOPJOE I have a few N14s but only one red top. Easy to swap out into anything with an ISX, but it’s getting harder to find them.
@@johndoran3274how do you swap this for a isx 15. I want a n-14
Knockin like a Jehovah Witness.
I see no difference in this and a 460+
The 525 and 460 can Look Identical. Smart or top two torque software made the engines pull almost the same on a long hill at peak torque rpm
@@ENGINESHOPJOE I’m just saying I have looked at the rebuild kits and there is no difference, now there is a 530 that has different injectors but I have 2 n14 and have both 460’s turned up to 525,1850torque! But I still would of loved to had a true true 525! Great video.
@@jopete681 You do have a true 525 if it is turned up. The ecm software decides the horsepower and torque. Many times injectors or turbo changes are to satisfy the emissions level of the engine. That is why there were hundreds of calibrations written. Thanks and glad you enjoyed it!
Is it for sale,
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Why did it take so much to ge that motor to start. Air in system?
The engine was in storage for years. We change oil and crank them to build oil pressure and give all the parts time to get a good oil film built up. Cranking speed is 160 rpm. Running at idle is 750 rpm. Almost 400% faster. Second we verify the fuel pump seals are still good and it can pull fuel uphill tank to pump. If you manually prefill a fuel system you can temporarily mask that issue. We have shelves of used starters so we dont care about starter life. If the buyer wants a starter we put a new one on before we ship it. We are a few old guys who live by if i wouldn't buy it for myself I won't sell it to you.
855
Thats right and after working on the NTC 230-475, NTA 335-380, It amazes me that an 855 can run a million miles. I mentioned in one of my videos i overhauled a buddys N14 that had 1,354,000 miles on it. No NTA Or NTC that I ever saw ,when working for Cummins, made it past 500,000 miles.
The N14 was truly an engineering feat. The first one. hit our shop in 1991.
855 is bulletproof I used to love the sound of Stavangers until I learned what was the best