Touchscreen HACK MODX/Montage "Extended Screen, The Sequel"
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- #modx #montage #touchscreen
"Extend Your Screen, The Sequel" is here by popular demand based on requests and messages from my "Extend Your Screen" video which dealt with outputing a head's up display for the MODX/Montage.
This video goes into the components needed to create an extended touchscreen and all the procedures that were needed to make this hack happen.
As mentioned in this video, the process and parts outlined here is completely EXPERIMENTAL and is not supported by Yamaha (ie that's why it's a HACK :). User discretion is advised.
Components list:
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4 port USB hub: amzn.to/3l1iyik
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Ok. This, as long as I bought what you said, is working so perfectly that I want to cry. 😢 but of happiness. 😅 I have back and neck problems, so I had to give up on my MODX and leave it for a year in its case, opting for de mx49. But now, it is like the MODX resurrection. Thank you so much for sharing.
They'll never be a Thumbs Down for this if you own either a Montage or MODX for sure ..... great work there!! 😎👍🍻💥
Finally got around to setting mine up today for my Montage 7 & it works perfectly. Thank you for the info.
@@angelh1743 awesome glad the video helped! It’s such a More enjoyable workflow with the extended screen!
How cool is that, the fact that the YH engineers designed it to accept this configuration makes you wonder why it is not officially supported or mentioned in the documentation.
They use LINUX which is fully open source, Linux has a lot of other features included in it, they chose to use the graphical interface libraries and compiled in HID compatibility in the LINUX CORE, which means it's tablet compatible as well. It doesn't mean that it is multi touch compatible, just acts as a positional mouse if you like. So if your touch screen monitor has a standard GENERIC HID mouse/tablet compatible feature - it should work out of the box with the Montage / Modx.
Thank you for the 2 vids and your entire channel. I brought my new MODX8 baby home yesterday and this honeymoon is starting off great! Though my mind is spinning out of control, I had already thought briefly about if yamaha enabled a way to extend the touchscreen! Upon your guidance I have the networking adapters and even snagged the LAST S2240T (at least that is what the online retailer stated, haha) This is going to make learning much more bearable on my eyes and my neck!!!!! Cheers! JB
Hey JB: glad you found my vids and channel and glad to be of assistance. These S2240T monitors are still out there floating around, and they keep coming up on Ebay in case any one else is interested. Also best of luck with the MODX8, and yes there is a LOT to know about this machine, but give it some time and keep digging, the rewards just keep on coming!
Unfortunately today Dell S2240T isn't avaliable anymore, thus after a failed attempt with a Philips 222B9T I succeeded with a HannSpree HT161HNB 15,6".
For real ?
You are a Top dog MODX musician... Thank you for your teachings. Peace and music
This is very cool. I just don't understand why they don't put HDMI out on these new synths. If screen fails you have a backup in emergency.
Thanks for the video - got mine hooked up to an external today thanks to you! I'm guessing Yamaha did this as a function for demonstrators only, but it leaked out. :-) I feel like I'm on a spaceship now powering everything up. Thanks again.
Thank you so much 👍
Love your channel so much. Can you do a video going in-depth about the AWM2 engine making a complete sound? I know it’s just combining samples but for me it’s hard to make a cohesive sound in the end where all parts fit.
Hey thanks for the support. And yes I do have a AWM video planned so stay tuned and thanks for subbing.
Meantime, did you watch my last video on the Montage7? There's a bunch of AWM2 info in there, the timestamps are in the description. Check it out: czcams.com/video/F_Zgf6PjP0U/video.html and thanks again!
This is fantastic! Thank you so much for this excellent tip! You are awesome for sharing! BR/ Mack
Thank you for the post. I own an Acer T232HL monitor and the Pluggable unit worked OOTB. The Diamond USB3 BVU3500 unit I already owned didn't work. I'm trying to train myself to use the extra Montage buttons instead of touching the screen all the time for rapid performance and edit selections. Easier to reach for the buttons sometimes.
Thanks for the info, great to know the other monitor monitors that will work with the MODX/Montage.
Hi ALT V7 Thanks for sharing. Can you confirm the Acer is a copy of the Montage screen touch points? Thinking seriously of getting one. Cheers
@@shaunm1030 Hi Shaun, not sure what you mean by "..is a copy of the Montage screen touch points?" I can confirm that the Acer works "full screen" with touch using the adapter mentioned in this video. Hope that helps?
@@winddealer1 thanks. Yes that was what I was trying to say.🙂 Cheers
Got the ACER screen working nicely. Thanks for the sharing.👍
Well, the great unknown is the touch monitor that can be connected to the Montage/MODX through a Plugable DVI/VGA adapter. Unfortunately DELL S2240T can't be retrieved anymoare, thus we must find a suitable monitor with a hit and miss procedure and several wasted time/money.
Very wonderful!!!
Can you make it work with the Yamaha SX900 arranger? I used all your items and got the S2240T to work. I cannot get the calibrate screen to come up. There is no 'part select' on the SX900. Are there any hidden functions you know about?
Thanks for sharing
Very nice
Thank you for sharing useful information!
Thank you for sharing useful information! Is it work on MODX updated to 2.52 firmware?
Can an iPad be used in place of the Dell? This would also be great as a backup display/interface should the onboard lcd go out (a problem some have encountered)
At this time I don't know of any hack that uses an iPad, but as soon as I find out I will notify all my subscribers! Thanks for watching and subbing!
Good idea👍Does a mouse work, to not need a special monitor? Is the screen multi-touch?
I put an idea on that at ideascale, to add mouse / trackball functionality, and some guy told me that it worked already... but I have not yet checked it. I have never seen that working ,so I am not so sure
@@JoseVGavila There's no reason for it NOT to work. It seems they compiled the LINUX core with HID compatibility in order for tablets (touch screens) to work, so there's no reason for it not to work with the mouse or keyboards for that matter. However - don't expect the mouse cursor to show up :)
@@joonglegamer9898 Without cursor, it would be pretty useless, I am afraid. A pity!
@@JoseVGavila Well, I haven't tried that yet, but I do know in X (the graphical interface for Linux) you can turn mouse pointer on/off. Since Yamaha didn't intend for this unit to be controlled with a mouse and only a "tablet style" screen, it only made sense for them to turn it off.
However - if you can access the Linux Operating system inside of it, you can find the .xconfig file under (or xorg) and edit the configuration text file, you should be able to manually set it to display again. Please read up on how linux and Xorg works BEFORE you attempt this. Also realize that you are VOIDING your Modx and Montage warranty by messing around with these things. I think it's relatively safe to do so - as long as you make a backup of the files you mess around with. It won't destroy any hardware.
Philips 222B9T seems to be perfectly compatible with Plugable DVI and Montage, but after several calibration attempts I gave up. It turned out that, once reached the calibration page via Montage buttons, the first white box on the touch screen is displayed but the real point to press must be found by chance. This shifts all the points somewhere else, thus once come back to the normal display, it's impossible to hit the desired parameter. By the way, I hooked the same touch monitor to my Windows 10 laptop and it worked immediately.
Any luck with any other monitors besides the Dell S2240T?
Probably already asked but will this work on Motif XF? but (I own Montage and Motif XF)
great job!
I have an adapter that work with Genos...for monitor. It is not compatible?
Great 😊. Could this work with the Korg Nautilus or is it Yamaha specific?
This is Yamaha specific, have not attempted the Korg.
Wow ,,,yamaha shpuld create some extensions lile this
Great hack!
enter here cause my Modx7 had touch Screen broken. Where can I get the screen replacement?
No more warranty?
Hello!
Can this also be done in Genos 2?
Where's this list of "compatible touchscreen monitors" besides the S2240T?
The #1 fool proof monitor for this purpose is the Dell S2240T. Others claim to have had success with the ACER T232HL, but those people have not uploaded video proving their claims...and they won't--it's a myth. See my video on that screen here czcams.com/video/QeNd-7-AolY/video.html.
Wish I had more to offer, but after considerable research in this area, I can honestly say that if you're going to spend your money, get a S2240T. There are no other screens that will work--prove me wrong.
would this also work for other to synths, e.g. with Waldorf Iridium?
Thank you for your very great videos. I got a question. Does this external touchscreen option works for PSR SX900? I was just asking if you have some information about it. Thank you
I dont have any other info about the SX900, and would tend to think it wouldn't work. The reason we all knew it worked on MODX/Montage is because Yamaha showed it in many of their videos in the past.
@@SynthsandGuitars Thank you.
Hello! Was wondering if this hack would work for the Korg Kronos 2 as well?
😮😮😮
What other touchscreen you can use since this one is hard to find?
The Dell S2240T is the only screen that I know will work at this time. If/when I find out more, I will update the subscriber list so make sure you're subbed! Thanks for watching.
@@SynthsandGuitars thanks
@@DimapicStudio The Dell E2014T also works, I had all the right components connected but couldn't get the touch screen working until I came across this video with the button pushing hack to calibrate the screen. Now everything works. A Big thanks to Synths and Guitars for uploading this video with the final piece of the puzzle.
HannSpree HT161 HNB 15,6" and, of course Plugable USB to DVI and a powered USB 2.0 HUB
@@SynthsandGuitars Other screens will work as long as you know the basics of generic drivers. A HID device (which this Yamaha Linux core has been compiled with) should work with 1-positional mouse pointer/tablet devices (however, cursor might be hidden by default). This means that if your touch screen comes with multiple-touch-points, like multi-touch in phones, the drivers for this might not be installed in the LINUX core they have probably compiled themselves. But if you do your research (for example, make sure that the touch screen is of the RESISTIVE type) then I's almost guaranteed to work as long as it's GENERIC HID compatible.
Funktioniert es auch mit jedem Touchscreen und funktionen auch andere USB HUB die in Deutschland erhältlich sind ?
Nein, das funktioniert nur mit bestimmten Computermonitoren, die ich hier auf dem Kanal getestet habe.
@@SynthsandGuitars Funktioniert auch mit ACER T232HLA 23 Zoll Full-HD Monitor. Nächster Test ist Hannspree HT225HPB, 21.5 Hannspree HT225HPB, 21.5" Touchscreen
Other recommendations for a monitor
This monitor Dell S2240T is the only sure thing at the moment, but should any others become known, I will do a follow up video. Also stay tuned because I'll be coming out with more solutions shortly! Thanks for the subs!
@@SynthsandGuitars Acer T232HL, why is the Dell S2240T the only sure thing? Two of your commenters (including myself) have posted that the Acer T232HL works fine.
@@winddealer1 very nice thank you
Could this work with a Dell All-in-One touchscreen PC that has HDMI input?
Probably not since those AIOs (all in ones) aren't monitors for the most part.
@@frankcarrizo7799 "For the most part" I couldn't say, I don't really follow Dell's AIO models at large, but I happen to have one that most definitely has an HDMI input and functions as an external monitor.
So cool ,but how much all these accessoires? plz ^^
Hi can I connect a pro /iPad ?
There's definitely no 'official Yamaha' connectivity to iOS. And as far as I know, it's not possible on MODX/Montage. I'm waiting for someone to prove me wrong ; 0)
Warranty will be void